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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer

Don H
 

I have the code factory vocalizer NVDA addon that I purchased from ATGuys.  My only issue with them is the fact that the raise pitch on capital letteers does not work.

On 5/3/2020 6:03 AM, luke scholey wrote:
Hi all

Hope everyone’s safe and well.

Just a quick question, can someone give me a comparison of the Vocalizer (I’m only interested in vocalizer) offerings between the codefactory addon and the Tiflotecnia addon.

I want to know about the quality, responsiveness, number of voices available (they both say the same amount on the website) however Tiflotecnia’s voice page doesn’t seem to offer as many as codefactory, if there’s updates, how easy is that? Do you need to deactivate to do windows updates?

I’m just looking for someone who’s used one or both for a long time who can tell me straight up how they perform.

Thanks for any advice, I know things like this have been covered before, I’ve had a look but they’re spread far and wide over several topics
Luke
Re: What'sapp on PC?

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks jene NZ
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What'sapp on PC?

Hi


Just confirmed to send a voice message just under the chat part to the person. You just need to go into browse mode hit the space bar on the button and the first time allow your camera or mic. Then after that find the button again hit the space bar on the button record the message you can also arrow up to see the duration of the recording then arrow back down to the button and hit the space bar on the button to stop it and send it. Just been added into the tutorial. It would make it so much easier if they were labled.


Now to see what sections are under the attachments section and add them in if all goes well.


Not sure if i can do a new group but think you need to drag and drop people into the chat unless it lets you add them in by text.


Gene nz


On 3/05/2020 12:37 pm, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.

Re: What'sapp on PC?

Kerryn Gunness
 


can someone inform me how to use goldan cursor?
 not sure how to use it
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What'sapp on PC?

Hi


I will have another sus later on today. I will also get my wife to say what there is under the attachments part in the program. I know there was a couple of things but un labeled. I am also going to see if the golden mouse thingy might be able to get me to the correct places. I tried it before I could nate a position but was not read out but could get to it.


I will also have another look under the chat part for the audio note you spoke about I thought I did see it come up some where but not sure of the section? in whats app.


Then once I know will add it into the tutorial much easier if the buttons were labeled correctly in the program.


Gene nz


On 3/05/2020 12:37 pm, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.

Re: Having NVDA not say blank lines when reading an email

Gene
 

No, but why are you reading line by line and not using read to end? If you use read to end, you won't hear blank lines announced.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 1:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Having NVDA not say blank lines when reading an email



Hi, if you receive an email is there anyway to have NVDA not read blank lines? Can you have program specific settings?
Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer

Bob Jutzi
 

I went with Codefactory due to the cheaper price along with inclusion of
Eloquence, which I really wanted.  A slight drawback, though not a
dealbreaker for me, the voices are somewhat gargled but extremely
responsive.  Just as a precaution, I deactivate my license prior to
reinstalling Windows 10.

My system is a Dell Inspiron 3650 3.7ghz 7th gen. Core i3, with 8gb memory.

On 5/3/2020 7:23 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I am using code factory sapi addon and as long as you deactivate it
betwene major os upgrades its fine.

You can only have 1 voice of each language installed with 1 level low
or high, but once you have a small file downloaded you are free to
install what languages you want.

For me I have the high quality voices since I have the computer power
etc.

The voice activation and installs are all server based though so if
for any reason servers time out, things may deactivate till you
reactivate again though if that is the case you will not lose anything.

Atguys.com is where I got the voices and they are definitely worth it.

A big reason I got the sapi voices was for gaming but also because I
have a 64 bit machine and windows seems not to always play nice with
32 bit voices, switching them back to default voices each startup or
so I have been told.



On 3/05/2020 11:03 pm, luke scholey wrote:
Hi all

Hope everyone’s safe and well.

Just a quick question, can someone give me a comparison of the
Vocalizer (I’m only interested in vocalizer) offerings between the
codefactory addon and the Tiflotecnia addon.

I want to know about the quality, responsiveness, number of voices
available (they both say the same amount on the website) however
Tiflotecnia’s voice page doesn’t seem to offer as many as
codefactory, if there’s updates, how easy is that? Do you need to
deactivate to do windows updates?

I’m just looking for someone who’s used one or both for a long time
who can tell me straight up how they perform.

Thanks for any advice, I know things like this have been covered
before, I’ve had a look but they’re spread far and wide over several
topics
Luke
Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer

Shaun Everiss
 

I am using code factory sapi addon and as long as you deactivate it betwene major os upgrades its fine.

You can only have 1 voice of each language installed with 1 level low or high, but once you have a small file downloaded you are free to install what languages you want.

For me I have the high quality voices since I have the computer power etc.

The voice activation and installs are all server based though so if for any reason servers time out, things may deactivate till you reactivate again though if that is the case you will not lose anything.

Atguys.com is where I got the voices and they are definitely worth it.

A big reason I got the sapi voices was for gaming but also because I have a 64 bit machine and windows seems not to always play nice with 32 bit voices, switching them back to default voices each startup or so I have been told.

On 3/05/2020 11:03 pm, luke scholey wrote:
Hi all

Hope everyone’s safe and well.

Just a quick question, can someone give me a comparison of the Vocalizer (I’m only interested in vocalizer) offerings between the codefactory addon and the Tiflotecnia addon.

I want to know about the quality, responsiveness, number of voices available (they both say the same amount on the website) however Tiflotecnia’s voice page doesn’t seem to offer as many as codefactory, if there’s updates, how easy is that? Do you need to deactivate to do windows updates?

I’m just looking for someone who’s used one or both for a long time who can tell me straight up how they perform.

Thanks for any advice, I know things like this have been covered before, I’ve had a look but they’re spread far and wide over several topics
Luke
Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer

luke scholey
 

Hi all

Hope everyone’s safe and well.

Just a quick question, can someone give me a comparison of the Vocalizer (I’m only interested in vocalizer) offerings between the codefactory addon and the Tiflotecnia addon.

I want to know about the quality, responsiveness, number of voices available (they both say the same amount on the website) however Tiflotecnia’s voice page doesn’t seem to offer as many as codefactory, if there’s updates, how easy is that? Do you need to deactivate to do windows updates?

I’m just looking for someone who’s used one or both for a long time who can tell me straight up how they perform.

Thanks for any advice, I know things like this have been covered before, I’ve had a look but they’re spread far and wide over several topics
Luke
Re: Cloudflare HCAPTCHA using NVDA problem

Alexander Epaneshnikov
 

hello. HCAPTCHA  is accessible pleas look at https://www.hcaptcha.com/accessibility

 

 
Testing of block editor

Marco Oros
 

Hello.

Due to some facts, I have tried to test block editor for Wordpress. I know, some things are accessible, but sometimes It is good to use keyboard shortcuts ETC.

So, can I post some articles about It to My blogs and share It with You?

Attention:

I am not English native speaker, so It'll countains some mistakes, but I think not very big. I'll write those articles in My native language, which is Slovak and in English, because this is actually one forreign language, which I knows the best.

Thank You for understanding and have a nice day.

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros
Having NVDA not say blank lines when reading an email

Dennis L
 

Hi, if you receive an email is there anyway to have NVDA not read  blank lines?  Can you have program specific settings?
Re: What'sapp on PC?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just confirmed to send a voice message just under the chat part to the person. You just need to go into browse mode hit the space bar on the button and the first time allow your camera or mic. Then after that find the button again hit the space bar on the button record the message you can also arrow up to see the duration of the recording then arrow back down to the button and hit the space bar on the button to stop it and send it. Just been added into the tutorial. It would make it so much easier if they were labled.


Now to see what sections are under the attachments section and add them in if all goes well.


Not sure if i can do a new group but think you need to drag and drop people into the chat unless it lets you add them in by text.


Gene nz


On 3/05/2020 12:37 pm, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.

Re: What'sapp on PC?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I will have another sus later on today. I will also get my wife to say what there is under the attachments part in the program. I know there was a couple of things but un labeled. I am also going to see if the golden mouse thingy might be able to get me to the correct places. I tried it before I could nate a position but was not read out but could get to it.


I will also have another look under the chat part for the audio note you spoke about I thought I did see it come up some where but not sure of the section? in whats app.


Then once I know will add it into the tutorial much easier if the buttons were labeled correctly in the program.


Gene nz


On 3/05/2020 12:37 pm, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.

Re: What'sapp on PC?

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.
Cloudflare HCAPTCHA using NVDA problem

William
 

Hello,

I recently found that, Cloudflare has shifted to a new CAPTCHA provider and making the process inaccessible via NVDA or probably other screen reader as well.

It is like the new CAPTCHA provider do not offer an lternative way other then visual CAPTCHA.

Do any one also experience the same issue?
Re: nvda and buttons

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks brian
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons

Kerryn,

          You may, and I emphasize may, be able to use the Golden Cursor add-on to accomplish what you're hoping for within specific application (which, I'd imagine, would include a web browser on a specific webpage).  See the NVDA+SHIFT+I command to add a tag or label based on the mouse position.  You'd still need to use Golden Cursor later to access the label, but you'd have it and know it's there.

           It's a workaround, but depending on how important it is, it's a possibility.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 
Re: nvda and buttons

Brian Vogel
 

Kerryn,

          You may, and I emphasize may, be able to use the Golden Cursor add-on to accomplish what you're hoping for within specific application (which, I'd imagine, would include a web browser on a specific webpage).  See the NVDA+SHIFT+I command to add a tag or label based on the mouse position.  You'd still need to use Golden Cursor later to access the label, but you'd have it and know it's there.

           It's a workaround, but depending on how important it is, it's a possibility.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 
Re: What'sapp on PC?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The following from a tutorial I was writing has the short cut keys for it in it.


I did not finish it as if you want to send attachments they are not labled  etc but could be added to say the options.


*Using WhatsApp with nvda

*WhatsApp  for web
There is a app version which you can install on to your computer. The app version is the same as the web version in looks. Both the web version and app version can not do audio or video at present.
so you can only send and recieve messages on the computer.
You will need to go to the following web address at https://web.whatsapp.com/
Before you can use the web version you must have it setup on your mobile phone and already have a account setup. After you have signed into the app on your phone you will need to go to more options...settings....whats app web and double tap. This will also need to be done on the computer you are using.then you will have to scan in a Qr code. If the code needs to be refreshed while on the graphic use the NVDA key + enter key to do this. from the monitor for it to sign you in.
The computer must be on the same web address as above.

when you go to scan in the QR code The QR code is on the top right corner of the screen.

This can be a little tricky to do but after it scans the code what shows on your phone will show on your computer monitor.
You will neeed to do this from your phone to scan in the 'QR code.
The phone might vibrate when it has scanned in the code then mirror your phone.


Keyboard shortcuts for WhatsApp for Windows desktop
If you’ve installed the WhatsApp app on your Windows 10/8/7 desktop, you might find the following keyboard shortcuts very useful.
Start new chat
Ctrl+N
Create a new group
Ctrl+Shift+N
Open Profile Status
Ctrl+P
Undo
Ctrl+Z
Redo
Ctrl+Shift+Z
Cut
Ctrl+X
Copy
Ctrl+C
Paste
Ctrl+V
Select all
Ctrl+A
Search
Ctrl+F
Zoom in
Ctrl+Shift+=
Actual size
Ctrl+0
Zoom out
Ctrl+-
Next chat
Ctrl+Shift+]
Previous chat
Ctrl+Shift+[
Archive chat
Ctrl+E
Mute
Ctrl+Shift+M
Delete chat
Ctrl+Backspace
Mark as unread
Ctrl+Shift+U
Close
Alt+F4


*After you have signed into the whats app on the web
*Quick navigation keys that can be used with NVDA

You can use the following B for buttons, E for editable fields, F or form fields, H for headings, K for link,
For some reason on the buttons you can not use the space bar or enter key you need to use the NVDA key + Enter key on the numeric keypad to activate them.
On some sections the enter key will work You can use The up, down, left and right arrow keys along with CTRL + home for the top of the page and CTRL + END for bottom of the page.
From the page after you have logged in as you go down the page you will hear the following button status, new chat button, menu button, button but if arrowed up once you will hear clickable turn on desk top notifications, or arrow down you will hear Search or start new chat
  Just under it is a editable area where you can type.
Under the editable area you will also hear the following No chats
Keep your phone connected
WhatsApp connects to your phone to sync messages. To reduce data usage, connect your phone to Wi-Fi.
WhatsApp is available for Windows. Get it here.

*Status button

When you go into this section you will hear the following My StatusNo updates
Click on a contact to view their status updates



*New chat button


under the new chat section you will hear the following read out by NVDA
New chat
Search contacts you can search for a contact on your list here.
New group you can add people to a group you setup up to 256 people.


Amanda Hutton
Sleeping
Ray Pope
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Nathan Wheeler
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Larry And Ali Gray
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Graham Posen
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.

Status
New chat
Menu

*Menu button

Under this section you will hear nvda say clickable button   New group. You can have up to 256 people in your group up from 100

clickable button  Profile  ADD PROFILE PHOTO
Your Name
Gene
Edit
This is not your username or pin. This name will be visible to your WhatsApp contacts.
About
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Edit


Clickable button   Archived Archived chats
No archived chats
If you have not arkhived any chats then you will get the above message.


Starredclickable button Starred messages
No starred messages

Settings Get notified of new messages
Turn on desktop notifications
Gene
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Notifications
Chat Wallpaper
Blocked
Help

Status


clickable button log out. If you log out from the web version of this app you will need to scan the QR code again to sign into the web version.

*Adding contacts

On your phone go into where your contacts are then add the persons name and mobile number. They will need to do the same on there end. There details will be uploaded to the app so either data or wifi will need to be on to to do this..

*New chat

If you want to text  chat one of your contacts locate the new chat button then press the nvda key +enter key on the numeric keypad. You will then be given the following Gen Search contacts

New group
FREQUENTLY CONTACTED
A list of your contacts will come up you will need to choose one. Ray Hope

Nathan Whyte
Locate the person you want to chat with and Press the enter key on the person you want and then you will be given some options such as
You will hear attach, Open emojis panel
Type a message
Type in your message etc then send it.

 You can also review the messages you have sent to them.

Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Notifications
Chat Wallpaper
Blocked
Help

Status



If you log out you will need to scan in the QR code again unless you leave your self signed in.



Gene nz

On 3/05/2020 9:49 am, jazzyjennifer wrote:
does anyone know where i can get the short cut keys from, on the web sight i did not know there were any for whatsapp on the computer, thanks any help would be great!
Re: nvda and buttons

Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks jene and dennis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons


As far as I know it can't be done unless an add-on allows this and I've seen no discussion of such. You can't rename graphics either.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons



This needs to be added if it can’t be done.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and buttons







guys



can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc



if so how is it done?
Re: nvda and buttons

Dennis L
 

That also needs added.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons

As far as I know it can't be done unless an add-on allows this and I've seen no discussion of such. You can't rename graphics either.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons



This needs to be added if it can’t be done.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness
via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and buttons







guys



can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc



if so how is it done?
Re: nvda and buttons

Gene
 

As far as I know it can't be done unless an add-on allows this and I've seen no discussion of such. You can't rename graphics either.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons



This needs to be added if it can’t be done.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and buttons







guys



can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc



if so how is it done?
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