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Re: Are these buttons? or links or links in buttons but not spoken out?
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 07:04 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
The first website is is http://www.kogan.comGene, I will stick to this website, and try as best I can to describe what's happening. The site has some (relatively few) true buttons, it has a number of links, but it is overwhelmingly populated by what was, at least when I last dealt with them, hotspots. These are graphics, generally an image of the product or class that when clicked on takes you to its page. They are, for all practical intents and purposes, buttons, but they are not button objects. What's interesting is when I use the NVDA+F7 for the NVDA elements list, if I change the element to Headings virtually all of these hotspots have individually dedicated headings (which are links themselves, contained in the hotspot), and those headings are the product name/description itself, e.g, Kogan 12 L Air Fryer, Kogan Mobile SIM - Prepaid starter pack, Trafalgar Set of 2 Hotel Quality Goose Down Pillows. If you activate the heading, you land on the link for that product and if you activate that, you are taken to its page. If you can see you can click anywhere within the hotspot border and you'll end up on the product description page, just like you would if you navigate to the heading for the product, then activate that heading link. Brian -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Are these buttons? or links or links in buttons but not spoken out?
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi guys
I have been coming across websites with buttons in them. I do not mind if they are labeled correctly but then when you jump down the page with B for buttons you get a lot of unlabled ones but if i remember right will take you to a page. Yet if you jump down by links they are spoken out. So the question is are there links embedded into the button? but because the button is not labled as well it is not spoken out? A couple of websites come to mind so you can see what I mean. Even if i could lable them there are 2 many of them. The first website is is http://www.kogan.com It says button then link. If navigating by links it is spoken out but not buttons. There are some that just say button. The second website is https://tubitv.com/home In this case only buttons are spoken out some are and the rest are not. They can not be activated the usual way with space bar or enter key but only the nvda key + enter key then it comes up with a little information. Could this also be because they are made more for touch screens where the buttons are not spoken out correctly? or just bad website design? I mean not the website just not doing the buttons correctly. Gene nz
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Clement Chou
Anyone notice that language switching on the code factory version of
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vocalizer seems to be unreliable at best? Even with boxes checked both in the vocalizer settings as well as the actual NVDA voice settings?
On 5/3/20, Greg Wocher <gwocher@gwocher.com> wrote:
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Greg Wocher
Hello,
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The Tiflotecnia one sounds a bit more gravelly than the code factory one. At least it does on my computer. Greg Wocher
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Sharing my configured Miranda NG.
I had the old EXE file, which was a zip, of the old blind version of Miranda NG. So, what I did is install the old blind version, updated everything, removed some useless things like flashing icons, changed a few settings so chats are in separate windows rather than one multi tabbed window, gotten rid of that extremely nonsensical weather plugin, gotten rid of that weird splash screen plugin, installed the speak plugin and configured it with a custom message, made it so that it reads all incoming chat using SAPI 5. Note that the speak plugin won't read chat rooms, just single chat sessions. I decided to have a little fun. When you open the Miranda NG for the first time, it should speak, Robert Kingett is exceedingly handsome. Have fun! If someone could host this long term, that would be great. When it first loads, you have to add your accounts. Press the alt key, and go down to accounts. Anyway, have fun. It's portable so if you don't like what I've changed, feel free to change it. below the link, I'll explain how to change that startup message. Changing the startup message.
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Re: Release of add-on applicationDictionary
Gene
You can back them up. They are specific files you can find and copy anywhare you want. Or you can do the easiest thing and back up all sorts of settings and the speech dictionaries by making a portable copy of NVDA from your installed one and having it include everything. I have almost never done this and others can explain just how you tell the portable version to keep all these things. But once you do, you can back up the portable version wherever you want. And you can use the portable version to install NVDA with everything you have in the portable version.
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Gene
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From: Ron Kolesar Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 1:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Release of add-on applicationDictionary It also would be nice to be able to back up the dictionary files as well. Ron KR3DOG -----Original Message----- From: James Scholes Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 10:39 To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io ; nvda-translations@groups.io ; nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] [nvda-addons] Release of add-on application Dictionary Looks good. I think it would be helpful, and relatively easy, to add an "Application dictionary" option within the NVDA menu, within Settings -> Speech dictionaries. The gesture is fine, but requires people to read the docs before they can use it. Rather than it just showing up where they expect it to. Regards, James Scholes On 29/04/2020 at 2:27 pm, Rui Fontes wrote: Hello friends! In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Jesse Farquharson
Hello, See below for a comment posted on a thread very similar to this one. For NVDA 2019.3.1 or posterior, use the driver found at: https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.1.nvda-addon I'm not sure where the voices are found, though. The ones I have work, but were on the same website that you went to. If there are voices on the link I posted above, how to get to them is at best unclear because this website doesn't appear to be available in english.
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Re: NVDA remote?
luke scholey
This is the specific download page, give it a read and it should give you the instructions. Luke
On 3 May 2020, at 19:50, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
luke scholey
It does seem silly. This is why I’ve got so many questions. Do you know where I can find the driver? Luke
On 3 May 2020, at 19:34, Jesse Farquharson <jesse100rules@...> wrote:
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Re: Release of add-on applicationDictionary
Ron Kolesar
Many thanks.
I just down loaded this NVDA Add on for adding dictionary files.
Many Thanks.
Ron KR3DOG
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 15:27
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io ;
nvda-translations@groups.io ; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Release of add-on
applicationDictionary Hello friends!
Application Dictionary
Usage
Rui Fontes and Ricardo M. Leonarczyk In the good
old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best
Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Re: Converting JAWS Dictionaries
Again, from the one person I've done a conversion for, the report is that it worked for some words/phrases but for a few it didn't. Until or unless I can get enough test cases, and those who get the conversions back and put them in can report what's not working so I can attempt to figure out why, there's not much more I can do.
I do not code in Python, so I won't be doing this as an NVDA add-on. Given the nature of what's needed, a stand-alone utility (which is what I've tried to create) should be fine, anyway, as this is generally a "one and done" event for a JAWS dictionary to be converted for appending to the appropriate NVDA dictionary. As the utility currently stands, it will only handle language agnostic JAWS dictionaries reliably. That means the language for the given word/phrase is not specified. It's a simple pattern match. I will not distribute the results to others as far as the code goes until I'm satisfied that I have something that "is bulletproof" and I don't have that yet and can't get there without test cases. So, if you have dictionaries that are language agnostic that you'd like converted get in touch with me privately and we can work together. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Release of add-on applicationDictionary
Ron Kolesar
It also would be nice to be able to back up the dictionary files as well.
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Ron KR3DOG
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From: James Scholes Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 10:39 To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io ; nvda-translations@groups.io ; nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] [nvda-addons] Release of add-on application Dictionary Looks good. I think it would be helpful, and relatively easy, to add an "Application dictionary" option within the NVDA menu, within Settings -> Speech dictionaries. The gesture is fine, but requires people to read the docs before they can use it. Rather than it just showing up where they expect it to. Regards, James Scholes On 29/04/2020 at 2:27 pm, Rui Fontes wrote: Hello friends! In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Re: Converting JAWS Dictionaries
Ron Kolesar
I too agree.
I have several different JAWS dictionary folders, and since I’m now
learning NVDA, it would be nice to have NVDA pronounce words correctly.
Many Thanks.
Ron KR3DOG
From: Bernd Dorer
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 14:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Converting JAWS Dictionaries Hi,
may someone could write this as an Add-on for NVDA? This would be really
cool!
kind regards Bernd Am 23.04.2020 um 19:52 schrieb Brian Vogel:
Pele, In the good
old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best
Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Re: NVDA remote?
Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
I don’t see how to download it from that site. Am I missing something?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 1:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote?
From the following:
Luke
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Hi, where do you download the NVDA remote addon?
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Don H
I do hear maybe a little pitch change with capital letters but it also says the word Capital which I have unchecked in the settings. To me saying Capital before each capital letter is annoying.
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On 5/3/2020 12:56 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Jesse Farquharson
Their website is strange. For some reason, the driver for Python 3 eloquence is located somewhere else entirely. You're not the first person to be tripped up by this, and you won't be the last. I'm a bit confused and surprised as to why they did things that way.
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
luke scholey
Gene, I agree with you. I can’t find a demo of the tiflotecnia addon though, and on the vocalizer NVDA website, downloading the driver to test it out results in a compatibility error from NVDA.
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Anyone know if they do a demo? Luke
On 3 May 2020, at 19:19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Jesse Farquharson
They do. But the Code Factory demo never runs. Apparently, it's expired. But I have never run it before. Tried it on multiple computers with the same result.
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Gene
I'm sure both these add-ons have demos. Aside from getting opinions, the best way to determine which you want is to try the demos.
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Gene
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From: Greg Wocher Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 12:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer Hello, I was just checking to see if the code factory vocalizer did not change pitch for capital letters. It does change pitch for me. I did notice that with certain voices, nathan for example, it worked on some letters but not others. I found that the female voices did do better than the male ones with Karen being the best. I also set the pitch change from 30 to 50. Greg Wocher On May 3, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
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Re: Difference between codefactory and Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
Greg Wocher
Hello,
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I was just checking to see if the code factory vocalizer did not change pitch for capital letters. It does change pitch for me. I did notice that with certain voices, nathan for example, it worked on some letters but not others. I found that the female voices did do better than the male ones with Karen being the best. I also set the pitch change from 30 to 50. Greg Wocher
On May 3, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
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