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Re: Google Docs Menu Issue

Mallard
 

Hello all,


Taling about Google Docs, I can see the menus and options ok, but when I edit text or enter new text I have no braile output on my pm 40.


Is that normal, orshould I enable or disable anything?


Thanks in advance,

Ollie

ps: Windows 10 1909 and latest NVDA Alpha.

On 05/05/2020 14:00, Jonathan Milam wrote:

That’s correct, however, typically when you turn off Focus mode, you’re able to see the menu and options above the doc edit window.  However, when I turn off Focus mode, the Doc window is the only thing I see.

Jonathan

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* Monday, May 4, 2020 9:55 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Google Docs Menu Issue

I actually think Google designed it this way. Browse mode should be turned off when using Google docs. Use it in focus/forms mode. Give them accessibility feedback at the below link.

https://www.google.com/accessibility/get-in-touch/

The above link has email options, chat, etc.


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Re: MP3 Direct Cut

Rich DeSteno
 

I had the problem and solved it by going back to an earlier version of Direct Cut, I think 2.23.

On 5/5/2020 9:56 AM, Pele West wrote:
Hi Everyone

Apologies for raising this subject again, but I did not make a note of
how to correct this problem.

I am using MP3 Direct Cut with the NVDA Add-On. How do I stop it saying
the file length every time I stop it?

Thanks

pele West



--
Rich De Steno


MP3 Direct Cut

Pele West
 

Hi Everyone

Apologies for raising this subject again, but I did not make a note of
how to correct this problem.

I am using MP3 Direct Cut with the NVDA Add-On. How do I stop it saying
the file length every time I stop it?

Thanks

pele West


Re: urgent help please with Outlook

Andrew Summers
 

Yes.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 05 May 2020 14:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] urgent help please with Outlook

 

Hi Andrew

If you look at Windows settings (Windows+I), Apps, Default Apps, does it show that Outlook is the default for email?

 

Cheers

Chris  

 

From: Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: 05 May 2020 13:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: access-uk@...; JAWS; jaws-uk@...
Subject: [nvda] urgent help please with Outlook

 

Hi All,

I need your urgent help please with Outlook.

I am using windows 10 and Office 365.

I don’t get it with JAWS or the built in reader in windows.

I have set it as the default mail client.

What can I do next?

Outlook keeps coming up with the message below.

 

Microsoft Office Outlook

Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot

fulfill the messaging request.  Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it

as the default mail client.

OK

 

Microsoft Outlook

Microsoft Outlook is not responding

If you close the program, it will try to recover your

information.

Close the program

Wait for the program to respond

 


Re: urgent help please with Outlook

Tony Ballou
 

Hi gang,


First things first, I hope everyone is doing well and keeping safe. This is going to be a fairly lengthy post, but I think it will help. 


Andrew: Is there only one version of office installed on your machine.  Sometimes this problem occurs if there are two concurrent installations running with one being active and the other though inactive is still installed. If this is the case, try uninstalling both, then re-installing your default version. 


If that doesn't solve things you may have to Change the permissions on the registry key. I would suggest that if you aren't comfortable with registry editing, make sure that you have assistance with running this step in case something goes wrong.


1. Open registry by typing regedit in run.
2. Search for the office productguid in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Components\
3. Right Click the Sub Key that starts with the following syntax:

'F1291BD604B8604......'
4. Select Permissions, Add 'Everyone' and give read only Access to that group.


I hope this helps. 


Tony

On 5/5/2020 8:25 AM, Andrew Summers via groups.io wrote:

Hi All,

I need your urgent help please with Outlook.

I am using windows 10 and Office 365.

I don’t get it with JAWS or the built in reader in windows.

I have set it as the default mail client.

What can I do next?

Outlook keeps coming up with the message below.

 

Microsoft Office Outlook

Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot

fulfill the messaging request.  Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it

as the default mail client.

OK

 

Microsoft Outlook

Microsoft Outlook is not responding

If you close the program, it will try to recover your

information.

Close the program

Wait for the program to respond


Re: urgent help please with Outlook

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Andrew

If you look at Windows settings (Windows+I), Apps, Default Apps, does it show that Outlook is the default for email?

 

Cheers

Chris  

 

From: Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: 05 May 2020 13:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: access-uk@...; JAWS; jaws-uk@...
Subject: [nvda] urgent help please with Outlook

 

Hi All,

I need your urgent help please with Outlook.

I am using windows 10 and Office 365.

I don’t get it with JAWS or the built in reader in windows.

I have set it as the default mail client.

What can I do next?

Outlook keeps coming up with the message below.

 

Microsoft Office Outlook

Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot

fulfill the messaging request.  Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it

as the default mail client.

OK

 

Microsoft Outlook

Microsoft Outlook is not responding

If you close the program, it will try to recover your

information.

Close the program

Wait for the program to respond

 


Re: NVDA Settings Questions

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Joseph is it outlook 2019 and beyond that the auto complete works properly with NVDA?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remaining NVDA questions

 

Hi,

For table row/column, you need to turn off “Cell coordinates" Checkbox from NVDA’s document formatting list (NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/document formatting/tables group; CAUTION: do not turn off cell coordinates while using Excel, as it will prevent NVDA from announcing which cell you are working on).

As for auto-complete in Outlook, it is already working, although it doesn’t work properly if one is using an older build of Office 365 or earlier version of Office.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] remaining NVDA questions

 

?  Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage? Is there anyway when using outlook  to  have the auto complete suggestions automatically spoken?


Re: urgent help please with Outlook

Gene
 

It sounds as though you are getting the first message because of the second. Outlook can't fulfil the messaging requirement because it freezes. I don't use Outlook but that is mhy guess. I don't know why it is freezing. Is there a specific reason why you want to use Outlook? There are other very good alternatives.

To solve your Outlook problem may require the kind of help you might get from a Bleeping Computer forum. Logs may tell technically knowledgeable users why Outlook is crashing and they may be able to suggest solutions. As for something you might try, you might try uninstalling and reinstalling the program. You might try repairing it if there is a repair option. those with knowledge of the program may be able to discuss the matter further.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 7:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: access-uk@... ; JAWS ; jaws-uk@...
Subject: [nvda] urgent help please with Outlook



Hi All,

I need your urgent help please with Outlook.

I am using windows 10 and Office 365.

I don’t get it with JAWS or the built in reader in windows.

I have set it as the default mail client.

What can I do next?

Outlook keeps coming up with the message below.



Microsoft Office Outlook

Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot

fulfill the messaging request. Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it

as the default mail client.

OK



Microsoft Outlook

Microsoft Outlook is not responding

If you close the program, it will try to recover your

information.

Close the program

Wait for the program to respond


urgent help please with Outlook

Andrew Summers
 

Hi All,

I need your urgent help please with Outlook.

I am using windows 10 and Office 365.

I don’t get it with JAWS or the built in reader in windows.

I have set it as the default mail client.

What can I do next?

Outlook keeps coming up with the message below.

 

Microsoft Office Outlook

Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot

fulfill the messaging request.  Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it

as the default mail client.

OK

 

Microsoft Outlook

Microsoft Outlook is not responding

If you close the program, it will try to recover your

information.

Close the program

Wait for the program to respond


Re: Google Docs Menu Issue

Jonathan Milam
 

That’s correct, however, typically when you turn off Focus mode, you’re able to see the menu and options above the doc edit window.  However, when I turn off Focus mode, the Doc window is the only thing I see.

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Docs Menu Issue

 

I actually think Google designed it this way. Browse mode should be turned off when using Google docs. Use it in focus/forms mode. Give them accessibility feedback at the below link.

https://www.google.com/accessibility/get-in-touch/

The above link has email options, chat, etc.


Re: SoundForge Users On This List

The Gamages
 

Hello Andrea,

I am still using Soundforge ten, I didn't think later versions were
accessible with a screen reader, what version are you using, I may
update if it is accessible.



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 8:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io ; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List

Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change some
of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as
checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea


Re: Having NVDA not say blank lines when reading an email

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

It should apply even if arrowing up and through the message.  It is about user choice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Damacena
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Having NVDA not say blank lines when reading an email

 

I think it would be great if there was an option to enable or disable the oannoucement of blank lines when you use ctrl+arrows to read by paragraphs, like Jaws, but only when reading by paragraphs...

 

Em dom., 3 de mai. de 2020 às 09:15, Gene <gsasner@...> escreveu:

No, but why are you reading line by line and not using read to end?  If you
use read to end, you won't hear blank lines announced.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 1:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Having NVDA not say blank lines when reading an email



Hi, if you receive an email is there anyway to have NVDA not read  blank
lines?  Can you have program specific settings?







--

Daniel Damacena


Re: Outlook and attachments

Gene
 

I read mail as plain text. In Windows Live Mail, I can open your message and see an embedded attachment with an htm extension. So although the list doesn't allow attachments in general, embedded attachments are allowed. If they weren't, a lot of messages people want to read as HTML would only be available as plain text.

My recollection, from the very little comparison I've done is that Thunderbird doesn't let you see such embedded attachments if you read mail as plain text and I don't know how many programs let you see them.
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 11:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook and attachments



I am still using outlook 2013 with win 7 for my email.

I’ve been getting the same attachment message for a few years.

On all occasions, it happens with messages on lists like this that do not allow attachments.

Once in a while I get a message with an attachment, but it is always from someone who is not on an email list.

Maybe it is caused by a signature or such.

No, I do not know what to do about it.

I did as on one list, but found no fix.

I live with it as a very minor annoyance.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: May-04-20 9:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook and attachments





Hello all,

I’m using the most recent non-beta version of NVDA with Windows 10. Sometimes, when arrowing through the list of messages in my Outlook inbox, NVDA says that an email has an attachment when it actually doesn’t. Does anyone know why this is happening and how I can correct it?

Thanks,

Janet


Re: Outlook and attachments

Gene
 

I suspect it may in a way. If you receive an e-mail that you are reading as plain text, there is an embedded attachment of the message as an HTML document and maybe Outlook is showing these attachments in a way that your screen-reader announces them. I'm not sure if embedded attachments are sent with mail at other times but I doubt you can stop this behavior as it is probabhbly either a fault in Outlook or NVDA, I don't know which.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Brandly
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 10:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook and attachments



Hello all,

I’m using the most recent non-beta version of NVDA with Windows 10. Sometimes, when arrowing through the list of messages in my Outlook inbox, NVDA says that an email has an attachment when it actually doesn’t. Does anyone know why this is happening and how I can correct it?

Thanks,

Janet


Announcement: changes coming to Joseph Lee's add-on documentation

 

Hello everyone,

 

The following announcement is applicable if you use any of my add-ons (Add-on Updater, Control Usage Assistant, Enhanced Touch Gestures, GoldWave, Object Location Tones, Resource Monitor, StationPlaylist, Windows 10 App Essentials):

 

A series of changes were introduced to one of the tools used for packaging NVDA add-ons. In particular, these changes will have an impact on all community add-ons, including mine, as it changes aspects of add-on documentation (readme pages):

 

  • Add-on documentation is now HTML5-based. Everything else should stay the same.
  • Documentation title will now reflect the actual add-on version you are using instead of pointing to a distant version in the past. This will be most noticeable for people using development snapshots of StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials (development builds for these add-ons are released frequently).

 

These changes will be rolling out in stages, beginning with development snapshots for StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials scheduled for this weekend, ending with version 20.06 of all my add-ons (for stable channel subscribers), scheduled for late May or early June.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


SoundForge Users On This List

Andrea Sherry
 

Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change some of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Ron Canazzi
 

Pontes is fixed--at leawst for now.  The Search Engine was updated on May 3 and for the past day and a half, it has been working well again.


On 4/30/2020 7:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Those of us using a third party downloader were having issues. Youtube basically changed some stuff and the app makers have to work around it, again.

Take care and that's all I know.

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On 30 Apr 2020, at 14:42, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Dan/Fresh Start,

Pontes must be updated before it works properly again.  Every now and then, Youtube grows wise to Pontes and similar programs.  They change something in the download logarithm that makes Pontes not work so well.  Sometimes this issue is caused by a JAVA update.  If JAVA causes the issue, all you need do is uninstall and reinstall Pontes--being sure to delete all associated folders.  But I already tried that and it still is having issues.  You will have to wait until Pontes developers update the program.

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On 4/30/2020 10:16 AM, Fresh Start wrote:

Greetings all,

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader.  But hit is been awesome.  however, I have been having a little issue lately.  I am using version 3.0.

1.        How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

2.       2.  Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on it, the file doesn’t always download.

3.       I go back to check the url field and find it is empty.  But one more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

4.       I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second column.

5.       How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste into Word and save.

6.        

7.       I have had great success with Pontes.  But lately, It takes a few times getting the file.  I am went through the program options and think all is set right.  I genuine thank anyone for some directions.  I send a song out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…  Blessings in any of

 

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Re: Jitsi and NVDA?

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hi, Sylvie:

Thanks a lot for your comments and observations. Over here, we are experimenting/going to experiment with both Zoom and Jitsi Meet, and I will spend some time familiarizing myself with both.

Keep safe and stay healthy,
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 10:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jitsi and NVDA?

Hello Cordelia and all,

I use Jitsi regularly.

I cannot say that it is as accessible as zoom but it is usable.

The advantage of Jitsi is that it is open source and that it is
installed on many different servers.

In theory, anybody could modify the code to make it more accessible.

In practice, you can use it but it is not so easy as it is for a sighted
person.

I tried to install the app but I was not able to use it.

It is better to use it with Chrome, it works also relatively well with
Firefox.

I did not test with Edge.

It is really easy to create a meeting room. You can either let the tool
generate a meeting url or you type a name in the input field.

When you are logged into your room, you have to allow camera and microphone.

It works well in Chrome.

In Firefox, you hear the message asking you to allow microphone and
camera. It tells you the the shortcut to press if you want to accept.

If you missed the shortcut, you just have to press F6 twice and you will
find the dialog where you can allow camera and microphone and check "do
not ask me again", then press ok.

What is not so accessible, is that you have buttons to mute yourself,
disable camera, open settings, open chat, raise your hand, see more
functionalities , but NVDA does not inform you if the button is on or
off. It just tells you : "enable/disable microphone", "enable/disable
camera", "raise hand"...

So you don't know if you microphone is on or off.

In some instances of JItsi, when your microphone is off and you try to
speak, you hear a voice message telling you that you have to enable your
microphone.

When someone joins or leaves your meeting, yo only hear "alert", but you
don't know who joined or who left.

If you want to have your meeting secured, you can add a password.

It is in the menu "more information", which opens a dialog where you can
copy the invitation and its URL. You can choose a password, but this
dialog disappears after a few seconds and it's difficult to get or
change the info.

On the meet.jit.si page, you can record your meeting, that needs to be
connected to your dropbox, but I never succeeded in getting the recording.

Screen sharing works well.

If you want to share your audio, you have to select that you want to
share your whole screen, then check the box to share your audio.

As a conclusion, you can use it but some functions are not so easy to
use because of accessibility issues.

Note that on the beta page, https://beta.meet.jit.si/, someone
contributed in adding accessible buttons, so you had an idea if the
button was enabled or disabled, but this improvement disappeared.

In my opinion, the worst thing is that you don't know if your microphone
is on or off. There are no shortcuts to enable or disable your devices.

I hope this can help, otherwise do not hesitate to ask.

Best

Sylvie

Le 04/05/2020 à 17:51, Cordelia Scharpf a écrit :

Hi,

Similar to Zoom, Jitsi is a tool for telecommunication/teleconferencing.
Does anybody use it with NVDA, and how accessible is it?

Thanks,
Cordelia




Re: Outlook and attachments

 

A very great number of messages, as noted by Shaun, have attachments that most of us don't think of as such.  VCF files are used by many as signatures (or part of them) and, when that is the case, they are considered attachments.  As far as I know, there is no way to make any e-mail client I'm aware of consider them "not an attachment."

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019