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Lost voices and speech synths

Gerry
 

Hi, this is my first post and it is a great list

On Friday 26th April my Win10 laptop was updated automatically. When the system re-started my NVDA voice had been replaced by Hazel.  On investigation I had lost all voices except Hazel, listed  under Microsoft API version 5 and George, listed under Windows one core voices. The voice I had lost was male, possibly David, but I had not needed to look at this for years. I much prefer the voice I lost.

   At the time I was running nvda Feb 19, so I updated to March 19. This made no difference. Next I reverted to original configuration. This did make a difference. I now had the following settings.

Synthesisors, E speak ng, Microsoft API version 5, Windows one core

In Microsoft API 5 I have only Microsoft zero Desk top United States and Microsoft Hazel English UK.

In Windows one core voices I have, George, Susan and Hazel.

As I don't like any of these voices, I need to find a way to obtain a voice I like.


My questions

1 Was the MS update unusual this time as I have never experienced this situation before?

2    What synthesisers and voices come as standard with nvda?

3    Would an un-install and re-install fix my problem? I have not tried this as I would need sighted help.

4    I followed the recent  thread on Code factory and Tiflow and wonder if I should go to one of these ?

5 How can I download the latest User Manual?

Any advice on these issues would be gratefully received.

with thanks

Gerry


Re: Torrents

Vlad Dragomir
 

Thank you Angelo, I didn’t know there were portable versions. I did a Google search and found UTorrent portable. No problems so far. Thank you once more.

 

Vlad.


Re: PDF Alternative Apart from Edge?

 

NFB Reader.

On 5/8/20, Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...> wrote:
Adobe reader, adobe acrobat dc, foxit reader,

On Wed, May 6, 2020, 03:42 Clement Chou <chou.clement@...> wrote:

Been using Edge to read PDF's for awhile now, but am trying to find
one that's more dedicated and that works better than Edge. Any
recommendations? Adobe products still the best solution? Or is there a
more accesible alternative?





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Re: Torrents

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Greetings!



I am using, without any problems, a portable version of uTorrent.

It is not necessary to install!



Cordial greetings

Ângelo Abrantes

Portuguese NVDA Team

skype: angeloabrantes
Às 11:18 de 08-05-2020, Aravind R escreveu:

i am comfortable with u torrent. during installation, we should be
careful not to allow it install additional antivirus on its own

On 08/05/2020, Vlad Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@...> wrote:
Good morning everyone,



I hope I’m wrong, but it seems to me that NVDA doesn’t like Torrent clients,
or rather, Torrent clients don’t like NVDA. I’m in desperate need of an
accessible, configurable Torrent client. In my experience so far, BitTorrent
and UTorrent have inaccessible installers so I can’t even try them. I also
played with qBittorrent, Tixati, PicoTorrent, BiglyBT, Halite And
Transmission. Some are totally inaccessible, others don’t allow me to change
any default settings. I admit I’m running out of ideas. If anybody had
better experiences, would he/she kindly share them with me. I’d be very
grateful and happy to receive a bit of help/advice. It would be so much
better to use torrents instead of direct downloads, especially for Linux
distributions or on sites like archive.org.



Many thanks in advance, and warm regards.



Vlad.




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Re: Torrents

Aravind R
 

i am comfortable with u torrent. during installation, we should be
careful not to allow it install additional antivirus on its own

On 08/05/2020, Vlad Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@...> wrote:
Good morning everyone,



I hope I’m wrong, but it seems to me that NVDA doesn’t like Torrent clients,
or rather, Torrent clients don’t like NVDA. I’m in desperate need of an
accessible, configurable Torrent client. In my experience so far, BitTorrent
and UTorrent have inaccessible installers so I can’t even try them. I also
played with qBittorrent, Tixati, PicoTorrent, BiglyBT, Halite And
Transmission. Some are totally inaccessible, others don’t allow me to change
any default settings. I admit I’m running out of ideas. If anybody had
better experiences, would he/she kindly share them with me. I’d be very
grateful and happy to receive a bit of help/advice. It would be so much
better to use torrents instead of direct downloads, especially for Linux
distributions or on sites like archive.org.



Many thanks in advance, and warm regards.



Vlad.





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Re: Papenmeier Braillex Trio not properly working

lutztiger.luigi@...
 

Hi,

 

yes, I’m using it via USB.

 

I don’t know what you mean by ‘emulation’, so I guess I didn’t.

 

Best,

Almaric

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Rui Fontes
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 01:29
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Papenmeier Braillex Trio not properly working

 

Hello!

 

Are you using it via USB?

Did you set the device to use any emulation?

 

Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

 

Às 20:33 de 07/05/2020, lutztiger.luigi@... escreveu:

Dear people,

 

as I’m planning to permanently switch from JAWS to nvda I’m trying to set up nvda in order to be able tow work with it properly. I’m on the newest nvda version available.

 

I’ve a Papenmeier Braillex Trio working perfectly under Jaws2020. On nvda, only the braille input works, but I’m not getting any kind of output. In the user guide I’ve read I’d need to select “Papenmeier braillex newer models” in the settings dialogue, but unfortunately nvda doesn’t find any braille display being connected.

 

Any ideas?

 

Best,

almaric


Torrents

Vlad Dragomir
 

Good morning everyone,

 

I hope I’m wrong, but it seems to me that NVDA doesn’t like Torrent clients, or rather, Torrent clients don’t like NVDA. I’m in desperate need of an accessible, configurable Torrent client. In my experience so far, BitTorrent and UTorrent have inaccessible installers so I can’t even try them. I also played with qBittorrent, Tixati, PicoTorrent, BiglyBT, Halite And Transmission. Some are totally inaccessible, others don’t allow me to change any default settings. I admit I’m running out of ideas. If anybody had better experiences, would he/she kindly share them with me. I’d be very grateful and happy to receive a bit of help/advice. It would be so much better to use torrents instead of direct downloads, especially for Linux distributions or on sites like archive.org.

 

Many thanks in advance, and warm regards.

 

Vlad.


Re: PDF Alternative Apart from Edge?

Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...>
 

Adobe reader, adobe acrobat dc, foxit reader, 


On Wed, May 6, 2020, 03:42 Clement Chou <chou.clement@...> wrote:
Been using Edge to read PDF's for awhile now, but am trying to find
one that's more dedicated and that works better than Edge. Any
recommendations? Adobe products still the best solution? Or is there a
more accesible alternative?




Re: new suggestion

bhanu computer
 
Edited

yes luke exactly.


Re: nvda and outlook question

Quentin Christensen
 

If you press NVDA+end (or in laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+shift+end), NVDA will read the status bar, which is where that information is.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 2:42 PM Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:

Hi, using Jaws if I do insert page down in outlook it will say as an example   

Items in View 209

Unread Items in View 5

How do I get the same information with NVDA?



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Training and Support Manager


nvda and outlook question

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, using Jaws if I do insert page down in outlook it will say as an example   

Items in View 209

Unread Items in View 5

How do I get the same information with NVDA?


Re: NVDA 2020.1 released

 

I'm unfollowing this thread now. Glad you noticed the RSS integration! I'm also happy it included the alt text and graphics, as well.


Re: NVDA 2020.1 released

molly the blind tech lover
 

Same here 😀

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 9:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 released

 

It’s working great here.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 released

 

Glad to hear it's working well!

 

Re the RSS posting to the list, I just saw that myself, that's handy :)

 

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:04 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

I just got the update 😂 Thank you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 6:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 released

 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.1, the newest version of the free screen reader is now available! Highlights include support for new braille displays from HumanWare & APH plus bug fixes such as the ability to read math in Word using MathPlayer / MathType.

This is a recommended update for all users.

Download from https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1-released/ #NVDAsr

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: NVDA 2020.1 released

Gary Metzler
 

It’s working great here.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 released

 

Glad to hear it's working well!

 

Re the RSS posting to the list, I just saw that myself, that's handy :)

 

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:04 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

I just got the update 😂 Thank you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 6:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 released

 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.1, the newest version of the free screen reader is now available! Highlights include support for new braille displays from HumanWare & APH plus bug fixes such as the ability to read math in Word using MathPlayer / MathType.

This is a recommended update for all users.

Download from https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1-released/ #NVDAsr

Kind regards

Quentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


 

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Re: windows program for creating a recovery drive is not fully accessible

 

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 08:13 PM, Bob Jutzi wrote:
I'm not sure what's being referred to as I'm using the most recent Insider preview 19624 and there still is the accessible option of creating a recovery drive.  Quickest way to find it is entering Recovery in the search box and the Create a Recovery drive option is displayed.
The Recovery drive is nothing more than a tool for restoring a backup, and unless you have a version (not created directly by Windows) that uses Windows PE with a screen reader built-in, it's not accessible either.

For those that are also members of the JAWS for Windows Support Group there is a huge ongoing conversation occurring there about this.

I feel, in certain ways, like I'm talking to walls over there.  There exist several "very geeky" options, which require using talking Windows PE, that are accessible, but are not simple to implement, if you wish to be able to do both ends of the process - system image backup and restore from a system image - with full accessibility.  And when I say "restore from a system image" I'm not talking about doing this from within Windows, as it is the rare case where one does a restore from within Windows.  I care about folks being able to do a recovery from a catastrophic failure, most typically the failure of your main system drive, and I have yet to see any reasonably easy utility that supports this.  Some are recommending Image For Windows, which I have never used.

I have written tutorials on taking backups using Macrium Reflect Free, which is an excellent utility, and which is 100% accessible for taking system image backups.  But it is not accessible for a system restore from a catastrophic failure (like virtually every thing else) because the bootable recovery environment is not Windows and does not include a screen reader.

My main concern is that people actually take full system image backups whether or not they can personally do a restore in the event of catastrophic failure or not.  Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a recovery (even if you teach them, unless you have the opportunity to practice - and heaven forbid you do - you forget) and have to call in assistance.

No matter what you may end up doing, it's far more critical to take system image backups so they are available for someone to recover using them, than it is to be able to actually do said recovery independently.  

Here's the tutorial on Macrium Reflect to create full system image backups:  Using Macrium Reflect Free with a Screen Reader

 

 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: saving attachments in Thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


if mozilla thunder bird has a attachment it will be spoken by nvda.


You can also down load the attachments by doing the following. Press the ALT key until the file menu comes up in your email you are looking at then go to message then down to attachments then arrow right to save or save all hit the enter key pick a location to save them to mine is uslally the desk top. Just before the same menu you can see how many attachments there are but if there are a few some times save all is the best bet unless you only want certain ones.


I have not done it through the emailo while open to attachments as i like the other way.


Gene nz


On 8/05/2020 6:09 am, Grant Metcalf wrote:
I am looking for information about how to know or recognize if a Thunderbird email has an attachment and how to save it. I have not found anything on the links that were recommended.
Much to learn~!
Thank you.
Grant Metcalf, a.k.a. Grandpa DOS
Email: the.gems@...
Home: (650) 589-6890
 


Re: new suggestion

 

Hi,

Although this suggestion may resolve use cases like lists in Word, I think it may not be possible. Not that it is technically impossible, but on the grounds that it does not fit how line navigation works, both for NVDA and in Word. In case of Word, unless browse mode is active, NVDA will ask Word to show where the cursor is. That is, it isn’t really NVDA moving the cursor – rather, it is Word itself that is in charge when it comes to cursor movement.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new suggestion

 

If someone can articulate a good use case for this, feel free to write up an issue at:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:11 AM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:

Hi.

I realised after I sent it. It's exactly the same


 

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Training and Support Manager

 


Re: windows program for creating a recovery drive is not fully accessible

Bob Jutzi
 

I'm not sure what's being referred to as I'm using the most recent Insider preview 19624 and there still is the accessible option of creating a recovery drive.  Quickest way to find it is entering Recovery in the search box and the Create a Recovery drive option is displayed.

On 5/7/2020 7:17 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I presume you're talking about the Backup and Restore (Windows 7) utility that is, as of this writing, still a part of Windows 10.  Don't use it, as its core component has ceased development and was deprecated all the way back in Version 1709.  Microsoft recommends using the third-party utility of your choosing.

Microsoft Announcement of Deprecated Features, including SIB [Backup and Restore (Windows 7)]

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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 



Re: new suggestion

Quentin Christensen
 

If someone can articulate a good use case for this, feel free to write up an issue at:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Quentin.

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:11 AM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
Hi.

I realised after I sent it. It's exactly the same



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Re: windows program for creating a recovery drive is not fully accessible

Richard Kuzma
 

Good evening,

I use image for windows, it is not free however.

It costs around thirty or fourty bucks, but is completely accessible.

It is a drive image backup software.

It works perfectly and have been using it here for a few years.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows program for creating a recovery drive is not fully accessible

 

Hmmmm, then what programs are there that are accessible to do this?  I would be mostly interested in free if possible.

 

Dan Beaver

On 5/7/2020 7:17 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I presume you're talking about the Backup and Restore (Windows 7) utility that is, as of this writing, still a part of Windows 10.  Don't use it, as its core component has ceased development and was deprecated all the way back in Version 1709.  Microsoft recommends using the third-party utility of your choosing.

Microsoft Announcement of Deprecated Features, including SIB [Backup and Restore (Windows 7)]

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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