Hello. Using NVDA 2020.1 and Thunderbird 68.8.0, Windows 10 64.

I have noticed that when moving focus to a link which is contained within a message the link's name or label is announced as one would expect. However, maybe about half a second later the target URL is also spoken. I'm not sure when this started happening or if it's related to the additional verbosity we saw recently with Thunderbird which is now mostly tamed. I did have the speaking of tool tips enabled but disabling this setting does not correct the problem. Are others experiencing this and is there a workaround?

I'm seeing this consistently using the letter K to move from one link to the next.


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The answer to the original question is, from all appearances, no.

And, since this topic has swung entirely toward JAWS scripts, and since all links to said scripts are available to all readers, this topic is now locked.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

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Look in the store, I found nvda there.

I just got the below email. This is in the 3.1 version of OE Classic. It's currently only the pro version. I have no idea when the free version of 3.1 will be released.

The news archive will give a better indication of what's to come in the pro version.

The accessibility email.

We've made a new update of OE Classic which further improves accessibility in the latest update of OE Classic 3.1, 2020-05-08. If you still don't run it, update is already available, please update using the built in update system.

This upgrade brings you info when browsing the message list if a message has been unread, flagged (including colored flags like yellow flag, green flag, blue flag etc.), replied, forwarded or draft.

Simply by browsing through messages this will be read by a screen reader. We tested with NVDA and it appears to work well.

This adds another accessibility improvement to the ones which we've done so far, especially the recent ones in version 3.1 based on your previous sugestions.

The work on this is ongoing and there will likely be further improvements to accessibility as well.

Sarah & Brian--I don't know if this would be helpful or not--& from
your description, Brian, it sounds like not--but sometimes I have been
able to determine what buttons represent by using Win10 OCR. It's
always worth a try.

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Yes, it did, and the idiots that redid the site used an unlabeled button, with the icon of an abstract person's head and shoulders, as the account button.  What's even weirder is that once I click on it, and expand it, I can't seem to enter in to the expanded fields, which include where you enter your e-mail address and password.

I remember playing with this site not long ago when you were asking about it then, and I know that button was a text button labeled, "Account."

Just FYI, if I start using the b shortcut, it's the second button.  The first reads "clickable button" and is the search button.  The second, which reads simply "button" is the account button.
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Hello to all. I was trying to log onto http://simmarket.com and I cannot for the life of me find the button labeled as "account" that was there last week. I bought some stuff from there, and now cannot get it. This is crazy! Can someone please give me a hand, and no clapping please. lol! I'm using brave and edge, and both show the same thing. Using nvda 2020 what ever was released to the public a few days ago.


Take care to all, and have a happy Saturday.

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 01:24 PM, Carlos wrote:

Is One Drive able to serve as a backup for restoring Windows so one does not have to install everything from scratch?

The answer to that is yes, but not all that easily.  Getting into the details of why is not on-topic here.  If you want to discuss this further create a topic in the Chat Subgroup with a title along the lines of, "Using One Drive for storing system images," and I'll pick it up there.
 
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Hello!

    Is One Drive able to serve as a backup for restoring Windows so one does not have to install everything from scratch?

    I have Microsoft 365, so backup space is not an issue.

    So if I do a clean restore of Windows 10 I can get all my software back all at once instead of getting it back piece-by-piece.

    Thank You! For your response!

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:09 PM, Deenadayalan Moodley wrote:

So, This [a backup and recovery routine that is fully accessible] can be done, it does need lots of additional knowledge to make work.

And, therein, lies the problem.  I am a tech geek, I understand most, if not all, of what's being discussed as being involved in doing this.  Realistically, most end users don't and never will.  They have absolutely no interest in getting this involved in delving "under the hood."

I applaud anyone who does.  But I also know that my personal concern, and that's whether a client is blind or sighted, is that they have a backup protocol in place and that they are able to take the backups independently on whatever cycle is dictated by their personal circumstances.   If they need to recover from within Windows, that's already accessible under most of the software out there, and if they need to do a disaster recovery, it's generally not.  Having to hire someone to come in and actually do a disaster recovery is cheap, very cheap, compared to losing years worth of work and data, and way, way cheaper than engaging professional data recovery services on a failed drive.

I am far more concerned that the average user, blind or sighted, is taking backups so they're available for recovery, than I am about their ability to do the recovery independently.  God willing, they'll never need to use the backup, but if they don't have it to use and they have a catastrophic failure, then they are well and truly up the proverbial creek, in whitewater flooding stage, sans paddle.
 
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On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:09 PM, Deenadayalan Moodley wrote:

So, This [a backup and recovery routine that is fully accessible] can be done, it does need lots of additional knowledge to make work.

And, therein, lies the problem.  I am a tech geek, I understand most, if not all, of what's being discussed as being involved in doing this.  Realistically, most end users don't and never will.  They have absolutely no interest in getting this involved in delving "under the hood."

I applaud anyone who does.  But I also know that my personal concern, and that's whether a client is blind or sighted, is that they have a backup protocol in place and that they are able to take the backups independently on whatever cycle is dictated by their personal circumstances.   If they need to recover from within Windows, that's already accessible under most of the software out there, and if they need to do a disaster recovery, it's generally not.  Having to hire someone to come in and actually do a disaster recovery is cheap, very cheap, compared to losing years worth of work and data, and way, way cheaper than engaging professional data recovery services on a failed drive.

I am far more concerned that the average user, blind or sighted, is taking backups so they're available for recovery, than I am about their ability to do the recovery independently.  God willing, they'll never need to use the backup, but if they don't have it to use and they have a catastrophic failure, then they are well and truly up the proverbial creek, in whitewater flooding stage, sans paddle.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019