Re: Thunderbird 68.8.0: Unwanted Verbosity Is Improved But Not Fixed
Here's the direct link to filing a TB bug. The developers are not on this list. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbird
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Re: Thunderbird 68.8.0: Unwanted Verbosity Is Improved But Not Fixed
Luke Davis
On Sun, 10 May 2020, David Goldfield wrote:
2. When a message that I am composing is being automatically saved to my drafts folder the status message indicating this is clearly being announced, as in "copying message to drafts folder." Should this be happening?Does a sighted person see some kind of indication that this is happening? 3. When I press ctrl-enter to send a message I sometimes hear the beginning of a status announcement but it gets cut off very quickly and I'm not able to determine what it's trying to tell me. I guess I should load the speech viewer to better capture some of what is being announcedI would suggest the speech history add-on. It's a bit more convenient than the speech viewer. Luke
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Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Ralf Kefferpuetz
No, there is no way. I’m wondering why you ask for it. Purpose of opening a mail is to read it….at least for me. But feel free to log an issue with NVDA.
Cheers, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 18:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Is there anyway to prevent this?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Yup, that’s normal that it reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
That is unchecked in outlook 2016 it still reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
NVDA-Control-B, Alt-S, uncheck it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Hi, is there a way to prevent NVDA from automatically reading an outlook message when you open it? If so how?
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Re: did this site change over night?
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 01:54 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I'm not happy that they changed the siteAnd I hope you've written to their support expressing this displeasure (as well as telling them that they need to include labels on all buttons, whether said labels are presented visually or not). I instantly understood what's going on, as the convention they used is, well, a common convention. It's what they omitted in terms of making that common convention accessible, which is usually part and parcel of it, that's really inexcusable in this day and age. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: did this site change over night?
I actually figured it out, sort of. You have to go up to access the fields and everything. Actually it is my boyfriend who took the time to figure it out as he is also a blind pilot, but a very patient one. I'm not happy that they changed the site but I got the stuff I needed yesterday and can now install it. It's good to know I'm not going crazy, but who knows when they will change the site, and why they did this in the first place is beyond us. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 9 May 2020, at 13:07, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Sable Alpha released.
Sable is an engine that will allow you to make your own audio RPG games without writing a single line of code. The link below has everything, including tips, tutorials, and instructions for download and how to file bugs, which should never be sent to this list because they will never see it. Enjoy.
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Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Gene
I should have said, the first line is spoken.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading
messages in outlook when open them? Is there anyway to prevent this?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Yup, that’s normal that it reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dennis L
That is unchecked in outlook 2016 it still reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Ralf Kefferpuetz
NVDA-Control-B, Alt-S, uncheck it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dennis L
Hi, is there a way to prevent NVDA from automatically reading an outlook message when you open it? If so how?
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Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Gene
I don't see any way, but why does it
matter?
Whenever I open anything, a program, a document,
something is spoken. When I open a document in Notepad, for example, the
current line is spoken.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading
messages in outlook when open them? Is there anyway to prevent this?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Yup, that’s normal that it reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dennis L
That is unchecked in outlook 2016 it still reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Ralf Kefferpuetz
NVDA-Control-B, Alt-S, uncheck it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dennis L
Hi, is there a way to prevent NVDA from automatically reading an outlook message when you open it? If so how?
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Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Dennis L
Is there anyway to prevent this?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Yup, that’s normal that it reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
That is unchecked in outlook 2016 it still reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
NVDA-Control-B, Alt-S, uncheck it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Hi, is there a way to prevent NVDA from automatically reading an outlook message when you open it? If so how?
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Re: Issue With NVDA and Thunderbird: Focusing on a link within a message also reads the URL
Copy and paste everything you just said and file a bug report. See link below.
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Re: Thunderbird 68.8.0: Unwanted Verbosity Is Improved But Not Fixed
Copy and paste everything you just said and file a bug report. See link below.
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Re: Thunderbird 68.8.0: Unwanted Verbosity Is Improved But Not Fixed
Ron Canazzi
Hi David,
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I do get all three of these issues, but they are of minor concern to me. The one thing you didn't mention is the reading of the underlying address when you tab to or arrow to a clickable link in an open message. This is really annoying to me and happens one hundred percent of the time.
On 5/10/2020 3:27 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Hello. --
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Yup, that’s normal that it reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 12:57 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
That is unchecked in outlook 2016 it still reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
NVDA-Control-B, Alt-S, uncheck it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Hi, is there a way to prevent NVDA from automatically reading an outlook message when you open it? If so how?
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Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Dennis L
That is unchecked in outlook 2016 it still reads the first line.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 6:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
NVDA-Control-B, Alt-S, uncheck it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Hi, is there a way to prevent NVDA from automatically reading an outlook message when you open it? If so how?
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Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Ralf Kefferpuetz
NVDA-Control-B, Alt-S, uncheck it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 01:04 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?
Hi, is there a way to prevent NVDA from automatically reading an outlook message when you open it? If so how?
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Thunderbird 68.8.0: Unwanted Verbosity Is Improved But Not Fixed
David Goldfield
Hello.
The release notes for TB 68.8.0 indicates that the extra messages heard by screen readers has been addressed. While the situation may have improved I don't believe that this issue has been totally addressed. 1. When pressing enter to open a message NVDA begins to announce something which sounds like "loading message" but the announcement is usually cut off fairly quickly. I suspect that this could be happening more on slower machines. 2. When a message that I am composing is being automatically saved to my drafts folder the status message indicating this is clearly being announced, as in "copying message to drafts folder." Should this be happening? 3. When I press ctrl-enter to send a message I sometimes hear the beginning of a status announcement but it gets cut off very quickly and I'm not able to determine what it's trying to tell me. I guess I should load the speech viewer to better capture some of what is being announced but I don't recall hearing any of this information prior to this problem initially being introduced. -- David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
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Re: Issue With NVDA and Thunderbird: Focusing on a link within a message also reads the URL
Roger Stewart
I just checked through this message here and I'm not getting this. True, if a link is spelled out with the full http etc, it will be read that way. But if it isn't, all I hear is what is shown.
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Roger
On 5/9/2020 11:09 PM, David Goldfield wrote:
Hello. Using NVDA 2020.1 and Thunderbird 68.8.0, Windows 10 64.
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Issue With NVDA and Thunderbird: Focusing on a link within a message also reads the URL
David Goldfield
Hello. Using NVDA 2020.1 and Thunderbird 68.8.0, Windows 10 64.
I have noticed that when moving focus to a link which is contained within a message the link's name or label is announced as one would expect. However, maybe about half a second later the target URL is also spoken. I'm not sure when this started happening or if it's related to the additional verbosity we saw recently with Thunderbird which is now mostly tamed. I did have the speaking of tool tips enabled but disabling this setting does not correct the problem. Are others experiencing this and is there a workaround? I'm seeing this consistently using the letter K to move from one link to the next. -- David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
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Re: Is there an NVDA addon to the Telegram client Unigram?
The answer to the original question is, from all appearances, no.
And, since this topic has swung entirely toward JAWS scripts, and since all links to said scripts are available to all readers, this topic is now locked. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Is there an NVDA addon to the Telegram client Unigram?
Ibrahim Abedrabbo
Thanks a million. I downloaded the scripts and trying to figure out how to use them.
Ibrahim
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono
Ibrahim, get @ https://www.dlee.org/unigram/
On Sun, May 10, 2020, 00:22 Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:
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