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New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later

Isaac Porat
 

Hello all


A new SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on is available for NVDA versions 2019.3.1 and later. This add-on does nothing by itself, you need to download and install SpeakOn Media suite for it to work.

More information to enable you to decide if it might be for you is provided towards the end of this message.


About a month ago there was an extensive discussion on this mailing list about SpeakOn Media suite as part of podcast and books readers related threads.

In addition to these, SpeakOn can handle Music, Radio and RNIB Newspapers and Magazines in the UK.


The SpeakOn MediaSuite home page where you can find more information including links to the download page and mailing list is at:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


The NVDA add-on is a convenience or a necessity depends how you interact with SpeakOn; you can use a Standard keyboard, a numerical keypad or a touch screen.

Information on the NVDA add-on and a link to download can be found at:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/Tutorial/The_basics/Operating_SpeakOn_alongside_your_screen_reader/Configuring_NVDA.html


Please note the following based on recent questions:


* SpeakOn is self voicing.


* SpeakOn supports English only.


* SpeakOn itself has not been updated for a while but with a minor exception everything works and there are no known bugs.


* Audio books:

It supports Daisy 2 as used in the UK and (I think) most of Europe, it does not support Daisy 3 as used in the US.

Books made of individual audio files as well as playlists are also supported


* Written books:

epub is supported as well as plain text.


* PDF is not supported


* DRM protection is not supported


Regards

Isaac


Isaac Porat

SpeakOn developer


Re: Remote Relay server

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi Robert,

People have different benefits of running a remote server, some because they're managing a sizable internal network. However, a couple of years ago, nvdaremote.com was quite often offline, and the remote access was a necessity for the work I was doing at the time, so I couldn't aford to not have access for long periods of time.

Jonathan

On May 11, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:

Again I ask. what is the purpose of a relay server?
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Relay server


Hi,

There is a precompiled server for windows here:

https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/releases/download/release-1.6/NVDARemoteServer-win-1.6-x64.zip


Extract this to any location of your choosing. Inside the folder, right
click service manager.cmd and run it as administrator. Here is where you can
select to install the service, run it at startup, among other self
explanatory features.


Another good idea is to run the NVDA remote certificate.cmd file, again as
administrator, to create your own SSL certificate for your remote server.

Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a
compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd
prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you








Re: NVDA Systematic Crash

 

Hi,

Yes, makes more sense. As for why it crashes, try disabling all add-ons and see what happens next time you log onto your computer.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Systematic Crash

 

Apologies, I realise now I didn’t tell everything. That crash only happens once after restart. If I try to launch NVDA again, it runs perfectly well without any flaws. But as soon as I restart, it’s first run goes south again, only once. Am I making more sense?

 

Vlad.


Re: NVDA Systematic Crash

Vlad Dragomir
 

Apologies, I realise now I didn’t tell everything. That crash only happens once after restart. If I try to launch NVDA again, it runs perfectly well without any flaws. But as soon as I restart, it’s first run goes south again, only once. Am I making more sense?

 

Vlad.


Re: NVDA Systematic Crash

 

Hi,

Before doing that, try running NVDA with add-ons disabled (open Run dialog, type “nvda –disable-addons” without quotes and press Enter provided that NVDA is installed). If NVDA starts, chances are that it might be an add-on or two.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Systematic Crash

 

Hello,

 

Thanks Joseph for the reply. Answers:

  1. It’s 2020.1.
  2. Oh yes I have about 55 add-ons installed. Should I try to disable them one by one and see if this changes anything? Sorry if it’s a silly idea!

Best,

 

Vlad.


Re: NVDA Systematic Crash

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello,

 

Thanks Joseph for the reply. Answers:

  1. It’s 2020.1.
  2. Oh yes I have about 55 add-ons installed. Should I try to disable them one by one and see if this changes anything? Sorry if it’s a silly idea!

Best,

 

Vlad.


Re: Grammar checker

Quentin Christensen
 

Sarah,

That site does seem to work, however to check the errors, it takes you to Grammarly and want to set that up - last time I tried that Grammarly itself was completely inaccessible, has it changed?

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:21 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I believe you can also check out this word counter site as well. I hope I got that address right, as I'm typing from memmory.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 11 May 2020, at 21:15, Quentin Christensen wrote:

In Word itself, the only option I know of (which is accessible) is the inbuilt spelling and grammar checker.  If you're willing to copy your text out, ProWritingAid has an accessible interface here:  https://prowritingaid.com/en/Account/Register2?returnUrl=%2Fen%2FAnalysis%2FEditor%3FscreenReaderFriendly%3Dtrue

Note that it does have a Word plug-in, however last I checked, it, like others such as Grammarly, weren't accessible.

If anyone finds anything else, I'd be interested to know.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:36 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

Which grammer checker does work in Microsoft word as well as accessible with nvda?



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Training and Support Manager



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Training and Support Manager


Re: Grammar checker

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe you can also check out this word counter site as well. I hope I got that address right, as I'm typing from memmory.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 11 May 2020, at 21:15, Quentin Christensen wrote:

In Word itself, the only option I know of (which is accessible) is the inbuilt spelling and grammar checker.  If you're willing to copy your text out, ProWritingAid has an accessible interface here:  https://prowritingaid.com/en/Account/Register2?returnUrl=%2Fen%2FAnalysis%2FEditor%3FscreenReaderFriendly%3Dtrue

Note that it does have a Word plug-in, however last I checked, it, like others such as Grammarly, weren't accessible.

If anyone finds anything else, I'd be interested to know.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:36 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

Which grammer checker does work in Microsoft word as well as accessible with nvda?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Grammar checker

Quentin Christensen
 

In Word itself, the only option I know of (which is accessible) is the inbuilt spelling and grammar checker.  If you're willing to copy your text out, ProWritingAid has an accessible interface here:  https://prowritingaid.com/en/Account/Register2?returnUrl=%2Fen%2FAnalysis%2FEditor%3FscreenReaderFriendly%3Dtrue

Note that it does have a Word plug-in, however last I checked, it, like others such as Grammarly, weren't accessible.

If anyone finds anything else, I'd be interested to know.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:36 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

Which grammer checker does work in Microsoft word as well as accessible with nvda?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Toggle Passing Keys in NVDA?

Quentin Christensen
 

Brian and Sarah,

You are both correct, my mistake, we'll just put that down to my inability to read :)

Ok in that case, as you pointed out, NVDA doesn't have a command for that currently, but if someone would like to create an issue to articulate the use case, it is certainly something which could be considered.

Quentin.


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:07 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

That's not actually what we are asking. If I need to do something with nvda speach on, and I have to pass keys through to said app, I would want a sticky way of doing this.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 10 May 2020, at 23:30, Quentin Christensen wrote:

NVDA has a "sleep mode".  Press NVDA+shift+s (or if using laptop keyboard layout press NVDA+shift+z) and NVDA will be silent and will ignore keystrokes while you are in the current program (or until you press the sleep command again).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 12:37 PM Tilea <sabelyn@...> wrote:
Hi there! I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to tell NVDA to stop processing commands for a time, similar to the "pass next key through" command. When using an application/ widget that has heavy keyboard accessibility, NVDA's commands really hinder the use of the application, and having to press NVDA+F2 between each and every keystroke would make - say - a game using its own keyboard commands practically unplayable. I thought perhaps the "application sleep mode" was what I needed, but not only does the command listed on the reference do absolutely nothing for me, it apparently stops the speech synthesis as well, which I don't want.

What I'm looking for is a key stroke that tells NVDA to start ignoring/passing keys until that same keystroke is entered again, or something to that effect.

Searching for this has yielded nothing helpful because any way I phrase the question, I simply get linked back to the user guide or commands quick reference, which so far as I've seen, doesn't have any solution. Is there perhaps an addon that would allow this, or have I missed something in NVDA's main feature set?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA Systematic Crash

 

Hi,

The dmp file is a crash dump, which requires a debugger to parse what it is saying (as such, you cannot paste the contents of this file, otherwise it may become unreadable once a person with a debugger opens it as things can change while transmitting over the internet).

A few questions:

  • Which NVDA version is this?
  • Do you have any add-ons installed?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 7:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Systematic Crash

 

Greetings,

 

I’ve recently switched laptops, and on this new one, NVDA crashes systematically at each restart, right at the beginning, after I type the pin on the lockscreen. Would any of our beloved experts be kind enough to assist me in, at least diagnosing, if not solving this?

 

A few more details: there are no errors in either nvda.Log or nvda-old.Log. On the other hand, there is a file in Temp named “nvda_crash.Dmp”, whose contents seems unreadable to humans, or at least non-specialists like me. Would it help if I pasted the contents of that file in an email here for someone able to decode it? Thank you very much in advance, grateful regards.

 

Vlad.


NVDA Systematic Crash

Vlad Dragomir
 

Greetings,

 

I’ve recently switched laptops, and on this new one, NVDA crashes systematically at each restart, right at the beginning, after I type the pin on the lockscreen. Would any of our beloved experts be kind enough to assist me in, at least diagnosing, if not solving this?

 

A few more details: there are no errors in either nvda.Log or nvda-old.Log. On the other hand, there is a file in Temp named “nvda_crash.Dmp”, whose contents seems unreadable to humans, or at least non-specialists like me. Would it help if I pasted the contents of that file in an email here for someone able to decode it? Thank you very much in advance, grateful regards.

 

Vlad.


Re: Remote Relay server

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Again I ask. what is the purpose of a relay server?
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Relay server


Hi,

There is a precompiled server for windows here:

https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/releases/download/release-1.6/NVDARemoteServer-win-1.6-x64.zip


Extract this to any location of your choosing. Inside the folder, right
click service manager.cmd and run it as administrator. Here is where you can
select to install the service, run it at startup, among other self
explanatory features.


Another good idea is to run the NVDA remote certificate.cmd file, again as
administrator, to create your own SSL certificate for your remote server.

Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a
compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd
prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you







Re: Looking For Older Version of NVDA

Jacob
 

Just replace the version number in this link and you'll get any version you want.

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2019.3/nvda_2019.3.exe


OZ0TE Jacob

On 2020-05-11 at 23:30 David Goldfield wrote:
Hello. At one point I thought that the NV Access Web site had a place for archiving older NVDA releases. I can no longer find it and I have a need to temporarily run 2019.3 as a portable copy for a brief test of a Web site. I'd prefer to not grab it from a Dropbox link or to receive it as an attachment as I'd rather get it from NV Access, as I prefer downloading files from the source, whenever possible.

Does NV Access run an FTP server with old NVDA releases just as Mozilla does for archived versions of their software?


Re: Looking For Older Version of NVDA

 

 Adriani Botez posted the following filehorse page, which allows you to get to older versions of NVDA:  https://www.filehorse.com/download-nvda/
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: Looking For Older Version of NVDA

 

David,

             All of the historical NVDA releases, including the various betas and release candidates, are available via the Releases page for the NVDA GitHub.  See: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/releases

However, I'll be darned if I can find a way to download the compiled version of the installer, which I could have sworn was possible.  All I'm seeing is the source code as a ZIP file or tarball.

Unfortunately, I've deleted my installer or I'd have passed it along to you.

I have often wondered why NVAccess does not host a library of previous versions of NVDA.  There are times where one might want something other than the current release.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Looking For Older Version of NVDA

David Goldfield
 

Hello. At one point I thought that the NV Access Web site had a place for archiving older NVDA releases. I can no longer find it and I have a need to temporarily run 2019.3 as a portable copy for a brief test of a Web site. I'd prefer to not grab it from a Dropbox link or to receive it as an attachment as I'd rather get it from NV Access, as I prefer downloading files from the source, whenever possible.

Does NV Access run an FTP server with old NVDA releases just as Mozilla does for archived versions of their software?


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Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


Re: Grammar checker

 

This thread is so fragmented. The most accessible grammar and spell checker you will find is the one built into word. Get Microsoft Office 365. None, and I do mean this. None, of the third party offerings are accessible or worth your money. None of them. Microsoft 365 is your best option, especially with a screen reader.

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Re: Help on how to change NVDA sounds.

 

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 05:19 PM, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:
If this is truly useful information
         Which is really a personal determination.  And it's a standard variant on a YouTube channel URL.  I clicked through, but wasn't going to listen to a 23 minute audio presentation.  The channel of the person that did it has a number of other accessibility related material on their channel.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Help on how to change NVDA sounds.

Jonathan COHN
 

Intriguing, but not enough for me to click on a URL that seems very unfamiliar. If this is truly useful information, can we have it added to nvaccess or the maling list WIKI?

 

Thanks!

Jonathan Cohn

               

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Help on how to change NVDA sounds.

External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments.

Recently, people asked how to change the NVDA sounds. I found this helpful tutorial and I feel it is necessary to share.

Hello digital companion!
Do you know that you can change all NVDA sounds or anyone of the sound?
The beautiful part is that you don't need any ready-made sound to do this.
You can use any sound you like and make your NVDA sound unique. Yes it is absolutely achievable!
Just click the link below to learn how it's been done.
Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/ZPNma-SKuOE

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