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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Hi, You can’t change how long Windows will wait after you log in before starting something – more so in Windows 8.x and later due to Ease of Access integration. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Systematic Crash
Wow I’m truly grateful then.
One more thing I’ve noticed. If I uncheck the box “Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows” in Settings, and manually start NVDA a few seconds after restart, everything’s perfect. Which makes me want to ask this: is there any way to tell NVDA to start, let’s say, 10 seconds after startup? Would that help?
Cheers back,
Vlad.
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Re: Telegram, NVDA and windows 7 users
yunus Emre
Only web.telegram.org
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Re: Remote Relay server
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
thanks.
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****** If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
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From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Relay server Hi Robert, People have different benefits of running a remote server, some because they're managing a sizable internal network. However, a couple of years ago, nvdaremote.com was quite often offline, and the remote access was a necessity for the work I was doing at the time, so I couldn't aford to not have access for long periods of time. Jonathan On May 11, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Vlad Dragomir
Wow I’m truly grateful then.
One more thing I’ve noticed. If I uncheck the box “Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows” in Settings, and manually start NVDA a few seconds after restart, everything’s perfect. Which makes me want to ask this: is there any way to tell NVDA to start, let’s say, 10 seconds after startup? Would that help?
Cheers back,
Vlad.
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Re: New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later
Kerryn Gunness
what is speak on?
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From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later Further to Isaac's message about the NVDA AddOn for Speak ON I copy below the Podcast series I am doing to aid people's use of the suite. These Podcasts can be freely distributed if they are of assistance in these times. Speak On Resources You can download Speak On media Suite from http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html Mailing List for Speak On http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/NeweUpdateMailingListContact/Mailing_list.html Speak On Media Podcast Links are provided with SendSpace and DropBox. 01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3 This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu https://www.dropbox.com/s/8y09u2leqstfxa5/01%20Introduction%20Speak%20on%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1 02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3 This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into Speak On Media. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuj67i26b4f8dtk/02%20Getting%20Audio%20Books%20into%20Speak%20On%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1 03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3 This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqqvar1l0v66agi/03%20Playing%20Daisy%20and%20Audio%20Books%20in%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1 04 Reading eBooks on Speak On This covers. -Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu. -changing the Reading Voice. - Navigation levels available in the eBook. - Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information. -Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view. - Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly. - Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad. - Saving Sections of the book as text files. - Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6prii2ctprlonak/04%20Reading%20eBooks%20on%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1 05 Speak On and Internet Radio This Podcast covers - Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On. - Using the optional VI Radio app. - Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hgwfljk44v2yp6o/05%20Radio%20with%20Speak%20on.mp3?dl=1 Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m 06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service. This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gi9lhz98twk9mx/06%20Speak%20On%20and%20the%20RNIB%20Reading%20Service.mp3?dl=1 07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers. This Podcasts covers. 1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading. Installing the task and logging into the eText service. Lloading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback. Setting up favourite papers. Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7 https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4y5bhyzdhy9vz0/07%20Speak%20On%20and%20RNIB%20eText%20Newsagent.mp3?dl=1 08 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 2 Magazines. This Podcast covers accessing the RNIB magazine service and the workaround needed if the RNIB has broken a link from a Magazine to Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da https://www.dropbox.com/s/qde2fmple3c6gg1/08%20Speak%20On%2C%20RNIB%20and%20eText%20magazine%20.mp3?dl=1 09 Speak On and Podcasts. This Podcast covers searching for a Podcast, subscribing to a Podcast by adding to Favorites, downloading Podcast, and browsing the Category Online directory Service. As part of this it show how Speak On acts as a virtual BBC Sounds app. It also covers importing OPML files from another Podcast Reader and briefly covers the optional VI Podcast app which provides access to selected Podcasts of interest to Blind and Partially Sighted People. Note For a demonstration of the third Podcast facility in Speak On , via the tunein Radio app to download Podcasts and Radio shows from that service, please refer back to Podcast 5 on Internet Radio and Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tv8u7i https://www.dropbox.com/s/88efq4jhsumskij/09Speak%20On%20and%20%20Podcastsmp3?dl=1 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac Porat Sent: 12 May 2020 13:14 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later Hello all A new SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on is available for NVDA versions 2019.3.1 and later. This add-on does nothing by itself, you need to download and install SpeakOn Media suite for it to work. More information to enable you to decide if it might be for you is provided towards the end of this message. About a month ago there was an extensive discussion on this mailing list about SpeakOn Media suite as part of podcast and books readers related threads. In addition to these, SpeakOn can handle Music, Radio and RNIB Newspapers and Magazines in the UK. The SpeakOn MediaSuite home page where you can find more information including links to the download page and mailing list is at: http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html The NVDA add-on is a convenience or a necessity depends how you interact with SpeakOn; you can use a Standard keyboard, a numerical keypad or a touch screen. Information on the NVDA add-on and a link to download can be found at: http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/Tutorial/The_basics/Operating_SpeakOn_alongside_your_screen_reader/Configuring_NVDA.html Please note the following based on recent questions: * SpeakOn is self voicing. * SpeakOn supports English only. * SpeakOn itself has not been updated for a while but with a minor exception everything works and there are no known bugs. * Audio books: It supports Daisy 2 as used in the UK and (I think) most of Europe, it does not support Daisy 3 as used in the US. Books made of individual audio files as well as playlists are also supported * Written books: epub is supported as well as plain text. * PDF is not supported * DRM protection is not supported Regards Isaac Isaac Porat SpeakOn developer
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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Hi, At least we’re getting somewhere. Don’t worry about bothering me too much (I should have more time to respond to threads like this for the next few weeks). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Systematic Crash
Thanks once more Joseph. I did just that. Result: with no add-ons enabled, everything’s perfect, no crash at all. With only a few add-ons enabled, the crash happens but later in time, about two minutes after logon, and it’s independent of what I am doing. With all add-ons enabled, it happens right after logon, just after NVDA starts for the first time and says “taskbar”. I suppose this is complicated, maybe I should learn to live with it, I’ve bothered you enough already. Thousands of thanks indeed!
Vlad.
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Re: Remote Relay server
George McCoy
The relay server is the host that you log into when setting up a remote connection. It would be your own version of nvdaremote.com.
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Hth, George
On 5/11/2020 5:16 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
Again I ask. what is the purpose of a relay server?
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Re: New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later
David Griffith
Further to Isaac's message about the NVDA AddOn for Speak ON
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I copy below the Podcast series I am doing to aid people's use of the suite. These Podcasts can be freely distributed if they are of assistance in these times. Speak On Resources You can download Speak On media Suite from http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html Mailing List for Speak On http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/NeweUpdateMailingListContact/Mailing_list.html Speak On Media Podcast Links are provided with SendSpace and DropBox. 01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3 This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu https://www.dropbox.com/s/8y09u2leqstfxa5/01%20Introduction%20Speak%20on%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1 02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3 This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into Speak On Media. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuj67i26b4f8dtk/02%20Getting%20Audio%20Books%20into%20Speak%20On%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1 03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3 This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqqvar1l0v66agi/03%20Playing%20Daisy%20and%20Audio%20Books%20in%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1 04 Reading eBooks on Speak On This covers. -Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu. -changing the Reading Voice. - Navigation levels available in the eBook. - Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information. -Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view. - Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly. - Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad. - Saving Sections of the book as text files. - Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6prii2ctprlonak/04%20Reading%20eBooks%20on%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1 05 Speak On and Internet Radio This Podcast covers - Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On. - Using the optional VI Radio app. - Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hgwfljk44v2yp6o/05%20Radio%20with%20Speak%20on.mp3?dl=1 Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m 06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service. This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gi9lhz98twk9mx/06%20Speak%20On%20and%20the%20RNIB%20Reading%20Service.mp3?dl=1 07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers. This Podcasts covers. 1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading. Installing the task and logging into the eText service. Lloading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback. Setting up favourite papers. Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7 https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4y5bhyzdhy9vz0/07%20Speak%20On%20and%20RNIB%20eText%20Newsagent.mp3?dl=1 08 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 2 Magazines. This Podcast covers accessing the RNIB magazine service and the workaround needed if the RNIB has broken a link from a Magazine to Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da https://www.dropbox.com/s/qde2fmple3c6gg1/08%20Speak%20On%2C%20RNIB%20and%20eText%20magazine%20.mp3?dl=1 09 Speak On and Podcasts. This Podcast covers searching for a Podcast, subscribing to a Podcast by adding to Favorites, downloading Podcast, and browsing the Category Online directory Service. As part of this it show how Speak On acts as a virtual BBC Sounds app. It also covers importing OPML files from another Podcast Reader and briefly covers the optional VI Podcast app which provides access to selected Podcasts of interest to Blind and Partially Sighted People. Note For a demonstration of the third Podcast facility in Speak On , via the tunein Radio app to download Podcasts and Radio shows from that service, please refer back to Podcast 5 on Internet Radio and Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tv8u7i https://www.dropbox.com/s/88efq4jhsumskij/09Speak%20On%20and%20%20Podcasts.mp3?dl=1
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac Porat Sent: 12 May 2020 13:14 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later Hello all A new SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on is available for NVDA versions 2019.3.1 and later. This add-on does nothing by itself, you need to download and install SpeakOn Media suite for it to work. More information to enable you to decide if it might be for you is provided towards the end of this message. About a month ago there was an extensive discussion on this mailing list about SpeakOn Media suite as part of podcast and books readers related threads. In addition to these, SpeakOn can handle Music, Radio and RNIB Newspapers and Magazines in the UK. The SpeakOn MediaSuite home page where you can find more information including links to the download page and mailing list is at: http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html The NVDA add-on is a convenience or a necessity depends how you interact with SpeakOn; you can use a Standard keyboard, a numerical keypad or a touch screen. Information on the NVDA add-on and a link to download can be found at: http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/Tutorial/The_basics/Operating_SpeakOn_alongside_your_screen_reader/Configuring_NVDA.html Please note the following based on recent questions: * SpeakOn is self voicing. * SpeakOn supports English only. * SpeakOn itself has not been updated for a while but with a minor exception everything works and there are no known bugs. * Audio books: It supports Daisy 2 as used in the UK and (I think) most of Europe, it does not support Daisy 3 as used in the US. Books made of individual audio files as well as playlists are also supported * Written books: epub is supported as well as plain text. * PDF is not supported * DRM protection is not supported Regards Isaac Isaac Porat SpeakOn developer
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Re: Remote Relay server
George McCoy
Many thanks, Jonathan.
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George
On 5/11/2020 2:23 PM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi,
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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Vlad Dragomir
Thanks once more Joseph. I did just that. Result: with no add-ons enabled, everything’s perfect, no crash at all. With only a few add-ons enabled, the crash happens but later in time, about two minutes after logon, and it’s independent of what I am doing. With all add-ons enabled, it happens right after logon, just after NVDA starts for the first time and says “taskbar”. I suppose this is complicated, maybe I should learn to live with it, I’ve bothered you enough already. Thousands of thanks indeed!
Vlad.
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New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later
Isaac Porat
Hello all
A new SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on is available for NVDA versions 2019.3.1 and later. This add-on does nothing by itself, you need to download and install SpeakOn Media suite for it to work. More information to enable you to decide if it might be for you is provided towards the end of this message. About a month ago there was an extensive discussion on this mailing list about SpeakOn Media suite as part of podcast and books readers related threads. In addition to these, SpeakOn can handle Music, Radio and RNIB Newspapers and Magazines in the UK. The SpeakOn MediaSuite home page where you can find more information including links to the download page and mailing list is at: http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html The NVDA add-on is a convenience or a necessity depends how you interact with SpeakOn; you can use a Standard keyboard, a numerical keypad or a touch screen. Information on the NVDA add-on and a link to download can be found at: http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/Tutorial/The_basics/Operating_SpeakOn_alongside_your_screen_reader/Configuring_NVDA.html Please note the following based on recent questions: * SpeakOn is self voicing. * SpeakOn supports English only. * SpeakOn itself has not been updated for a while but with a minor exception everything works and there are no known bugs. * Audio books: It supports Daisy 2 as used in the UK and (I think) most of Europe, it does not support Daisy 3 as used in the US. Books made of individual audio files as well as playlists are also supported * Written books: epub is supported as well as plain text. * PDF is not supported * DRM protection is not supported Regards Isaac Isaac Porat SpeakOn developer
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Re: Remote Relay server
Jonathan Milam
Hi Robert,
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People have different benefits of running a remote server, some because they're managing a sizable internal network. However, a couple of years ago, nvdaremote.com was quite often offline, and the remote access was a necessity for the work I was doing at the time, so I couldn't aford to not have access for long periods of time. Jonathan
On May 11, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Hi, Yes, makes more sense. As for why it crashes, try disabling all add-ons and see what happens next time you log onto your computer. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:44 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Systematic Crash
Apologies, I realise now I didn’t tell everything. That crash only happens once after restart. If I try to launch NVDA again, it runs perfectly well without any flaws. But as soon as I restart, it’s first run goes south again, only once. Am I making more sense?
Vlad.
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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Vlad Dragomir
Apologies, I realise now I didn’t tell everything. That crash only happens once after restart. If I try to launch NVDA again, it runs perfectly well without any flaws. But as soon as I restart, it’s first run goes south again, only once. Am I making more sense?
Vlad.
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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Hi, Before doing that, try running NVDA with add-ons disabled (open Run dialog, type “nvda –disable-addons” without quotes and press Enter provided that NVDA is installed). If NVDA starts, chances are that it might be an add-on or two. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:36 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Systematic Crash
Hello,
Thanks Joseph for the reply. Answers:
Best,
Vlad.
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Re: NVDA Systematic Crash
Vlad Dragomir
Hello,
Thanks Joseph for the reply. Answers:
Best,
Vlad.
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Re: Grammar checker
Quentin Christensen
Sarah, That site does seem to work, however to check the errors, it takes you to Grammarly and want to set that up - last time I tried that Grammarly itself was completely inaccessible, has it changed?
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:21 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
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Re: Grammar checker
I believe you can also check out this word counter site as well. I hope I got that address right, as I'm typing from memmory. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 11 May 2020, at 21:15, Quentin Christensen wrote:
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Re: Grammar checker
Quentin Christensen
In Word itself, the only option I know of (which is accessible) is the inbuilt spelling and grammar checker. If you're willing to copy your text out, ProWritingAid has an accessible interface here:
https://prowritingaid.com/en/Account/Register2?returnUrl=%2Fen%2FAnalysis%2FEditor%3FscreenReaderFriendly%3Dtrue Note that it does have a Word plug-in, however last I checked, it, like others such as Grammarly, weren't accessible. If anyone finds anything else, I'd be interested to know. Kind regards Quentin.
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:36 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:
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Re: Toggle Passing Keys in NVDA?
Quentin Christensen
Brian and Sarah, You are both correct, my mistake, we'll just put that down to my inability to read :) Ok in that case, as you pointed out, NVDA doesn't have a command for that currently, but if someone would like to create an issue to articulate the use case, it is certainly something which could be considered. Quentin.
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:07 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
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