Further to Isaac's message about the NVDA AddOn for Speak ON
I copy below the Podcast series I am doing to aid people's use of the suite. These Podcasts can be freely distributed if they are of assistance in these times.

Speak On Resources
You can download Speak On media Suite from
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html
Mailing List for Speak On
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/NeweUpdateMailingListContact/Mailing_list.html

Speak On Media Podcast

Links are provided with SendSpace and DropBox.
01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3
This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8y09u2leqstfxa5/01%20Introduction%20Speak%20on%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into Speak On Media.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuj67i26b4f8dtk/02%20Getting%20Audio%20Books%20into%20Speak%20On%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3
This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqqvar1l0v66agi/03%20Playing%20Daisy%20and%20Audio%20Books%20in%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On
This covers.
-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.
-changing the Reading Voice.
- Navigation levels available in the eBook.
- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.
-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.
- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.
- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.
- Saving Sections of the book as text files.
- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6prii2ctprlonak/04%20Reading%20eBooks%20on%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1

05 Speak On and Internet Radio
This Podcast covers
- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.
- Using the optional VI Radio app.
- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hgwfljk44v2yp6o/05%20Radio%20with%20Speak%20on.mp3?dl=1

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gi9lhz98twk9mx/06%20Speak%20On%20and%20the%20RNIB%20Reading%20Service.mp3?dl=1

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.
This Podcasts covers.
1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.
Installing the task and logging into the eText service.
Lloading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.
Setting up favourite papers.
Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4y5bhyzdhy9vz0/07%20Speak%20On%20and%20RNIB%20eText%20Newsagent.mp3?dl=1

08 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 2 Magazines.
This Podcast covers accessing the RNIB magazine service and the workaround needed if the RNIB has broken a link from a Magazine to Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qde2fmple3c6gg1/08%20Speak%20On%2C%20RNIB%20and%20eText%20magazine%20.mp3?dl=1

09 Speak On and Podcasts.

This Podcast covers searching for a Podcast, subscribing to a Podcast by adding to Favorites, downloading Podcast, and browsing the Category Online directory Service. As part of this it show how Speak On acts as a virtual BBC Sounds app. It also covers importing OPML files from another Podcast Reader and briefly covers the optional VI Podcast app which provides access to selected Podcasts of interest to Blind and Partially Sighted People.
Note For a demonstration of the third Podcast facility in Speak On , via the tunein Radio app to download Podcasts and Radio shows from that service, please refer back to Podcast 5 on Internet Radio and Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tv8u7i
https://www.dropbox.com/s/88efq4jhsumskij/09Speak%20On%20and%20%20Podcasts.mp3?dl=1





-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac Porat
Sent: 12 May 2020 13:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later

Hello all


A new SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on is available for NVDA versions
2019.3.1 and later. This add-on does nothing by itself, you need to download and install SpeakOn Media suite for it to work.

More information to enable you to decide if it might be for you is provided towards the end of this message.


About a month ago there was an extensive discussion on this mailing list
about SpeakOn Media suite as part of podcast and books readers related
threads.

In addition to these, SpeakOn can handle Music, Radio and RNIB
Newspapers and Magazines in the UK.


The SpeakOn MediaSuite home page where you can find more information
including links to the download page and mailing list is at:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


The NVDA add-on is a convenience or a necessity depends how you interact
with SpeakOn; you can use a Standard keyboard, a numerical keypad or a
touch screen.

Information on the NVDA add-on and a link to download can be found at:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/Tutorial/The_basics/Operating_SpeakOn_alongside_your_screen_reader/Configuring_NVDA.html


Please note the following based on recent questions:


* SpeakOn is self voicing.


* SpeakOn supports English only.


* SpeakOn itself has not been updated for a while but with a minor
exception everything works and there are no known bugs.


* Audio books:

It supports Daisy 2 as used in the UK and (I think) most of Europe, it
does not support Daisy 3 as used in the US.

Books made of individual audio files as well as playlists are also
supported


* Written books:

epub is supported as well as plain text.


* PDF is not supported


* DRM protection is not supported


Regards

Isaac


Isaac Porat

SpeakOn developer

Wow I’m truly grateful then.

One more thing I’ve noticed. If I uncheck the box “Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows” in Settings, and manually start NVDA a few seconds after restart, everything’s perfect. Which makes me want to ask this: is there any way to tell NVDA to start, let’s say, 10 seconds after startup? Would that help?

Cheers back,

Vlad.

On May 11, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:

Again I ask. what is the purpose of a relay server?
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hi,

There is a precompiled server for windows here:

https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/releases/download/release-1.6/NVDARemoteServer-win-1.6-x64.zip


Extract this to any location of your choosing. Inside the folder, right
click service manager.cmd and run it as administrator. Here is where you can
select to install the service, run it at startup, among other self
explanatory features.


Another good idea is to run the NVDA remote certificate.cmd file, again as
administrator, to create your own SSL certificate for your remote server.

Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a
compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd
prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you

Thanks once more Joseph. I did just that. Result: with no add-ons enabled, everything’s perfect, no crash at all. With only a few add-ons enabled, the crash happens but later in time, about two minutes after logon, and it’s independent of what I am doing. With all add-ons enabled, it happens right after logon, just after NVDA starts for the first time and says “taskbar”. I suppose this is complicated, maybe I should learn to live with it, I’ve bothered you enough already. Thousands of thanks indeed!

Vlad.

Again I ask. what is the purpose of a relay server?
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hi,

There is a precompiled server for windows here:

https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/releases/download/release-1.6/NVDARemoteServer-win-1.6-x64.zip


Extract this to any location of your choosing. Inside the folder, right
click service manager.cmd and run it as administrator. Here is where you can
select to install the service, run it at startup, among other self
explanatory features.


Another good idea is to run the NVDA remote certificate.cmd file, again as
administrator, to create your own SSL certificate for your remote server.

Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

    Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a
compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub  page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd
prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


    thank you

Hi,

There is a precompiled server for windows here:

https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/releases/download/release-1.6/NVDARemoteServer-win-1.6-x64.zip


Extract this to any location of your choosing. Inside the folder, right
click service manager.cmd and run it as administrator. Here is where you can
select to install the service, run it at startup, among other self
explanatory features.


Another good idea is to run the NVDA remote certificate.cmd file, again as
administrator, to create your own SSL certificate for your remote server.

Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a
compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd
prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you

On May 11, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:

Again I ask. what is the purpose of a relay server?
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hi,

There is a precompiled server for windows here:

https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/releases/download/release-1.6/NVDARemoteServer-win-1.6-x64.zip


Extract this to any location of your choosing. Inside the folder, right
click service manager.cmd and run it as administrator. Here is where you can
select to install the service, run it at startup, among other self
explanatory features.


Another good idea is to run the NVDA remote certificate.cmd file, again as
administrator, to create your own SSL certificate for your remote server.

Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a
compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd
prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you

Apologies, I realise now I didn’t tell everything. That crash only happens once after restart. If I try to launch NVDA again, it runs perfectly well without any flaws. But as soon as I restart, it’s first run goes south again, only once. Am I making more sense?

Vlad.

Hello,

Thanks Joseph for the reply. Answers:

1. It’s 2020.1.
2. Oh yes I have about 55 add-ons installed. Should I try to disable them one by one and see if this changes anything? Sorry if it’s a silly idea!

Best,

Vlad.