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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
thanks for this.
On 21/05/2020 2:22 am, Josh Kennedy
wrote:
you can use the free multidoc converter to batch-convert your old microsoft office and windows95 document to the new docx format.
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Dan,
Here is a message that I sent out in 2016 about this issue: I had a long chat session with the Adobe help team yesterday. It seems that the problem arises when a document created in some other editor is saved as PDF this problem can arise resulting in spaces not appearing to be standard ones under ISO (or ASCII 32). With the help of the Adobe support team, I used “adobe Acrobat Pro DC” to reprocess the offending document by printing it “as Adobe” and saving the output document to the hard disk rather than actually printing it. The spaces were all present and no misspellings occurred. The help team assured me that this problem arises from outside editors and not from within Adobe. Therefore, Adobe can do nothing about it.
This worked today. However, I cannot get it to do the job tonight! Strange!
I don’t have Acrobat Pro DC on my machine. I will have to download a sample of this program and try again.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 9:42 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Thanks for the idea. I just tried to do this using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and I can't seem to get it right. All I get is a blank file.
Can you tell me what settings you used?
Thanks.
Dan Beaver On 5/20/2020 3:15 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 06:11 PM, Marquette, Ed wrote:
I like the solution another lister suggested, namely, use a PDF-handling piece of software to print to PDF.That's my first thought, even if you're using Adobe Reader DC as the reader. Under Windows 10 there is a built-in virtual printer, Microsoft print to PDF, that is generally used to create a PDF from another program, like MS-Word or Notepad, etc. It is, however, available for "printing to" from any program, including Reader DC. So you would be running your existing PDF file through a virtual printer that creates PDF files to see if that resolves the issue. I generally use the program PDF Creator as my virtual printer of choice, but that's just habit from before Microsoft print to PDF existed. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Gene
Not another screen-reader, another program that
reads PDF files like balabolka.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] pdfs with all words crammed against the next
word with no spaces between Using another screen reader does not help. It is an Adobe problem. If one prints to paper and scans it back in, running standard OCR fixes the problem. I like the solution another lister suggested, namely, use a PDF-handling piece of software to print to PDF.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ] Does using another reader or using OCR solve the problem? I think I had a file like that once, but I don't recall now if those methods solved the problem.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Dan,
By coincidence, I was dealing with this topic today, actually! All you need to do is: I had a long chat session with the Adobe help team some time ago. It seems that the problem arises when a document created in some other editor is saved as PDF this problem can arise resulting in spaces not appearing to be standard ones under ISO (or ASCII 32). With the help of the Adobe support team, I used “adobe Acrobat Pro DC” to reprocess the offending document by printing it “as Adobe” and saving the output document to the hard disk rather than actually printing it. The spaces were all present and no misspellings occurred. The help team assured me that this problem arises from outside editors and not from within Adobe. Therefore, Adobe can do nothing about it. Perhaps we could ask Microsoft and other manufacturers of editing programs to examine their processes for creating PDF files and see how this might arise.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: Graham Long
<Graham.Long@...>
Dear Cearbhall,
Apologies for the late email.
Attached is the presentation NAS will be delivering at tomorrow's Board meeting. Please let me know if you have difficulty accessing the PDF.
See you tomorrow,
Regards Graham All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
I have a pdf I need to read. I tried but as the subject says everything is crammed together or at least that is how NVDA reads it.
Does anyone know of a way to straighten this out?
Thanks.
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you.
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Marquette, Ed
Using another screen reader does not help. It is an Adobe problem. If one prints to paper and scans it back in, running standard OCR fixes the problem. I like the solution another lister suggested, namely, use a PDF-handling piece of software to print to PDF.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 5:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ] Does using another reader or using OCR solve the problem? I think I had a file like that once, but I don't recall now if those methods solved the problem.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Dan,
By coincidence, I was dealing with this topic today, actually! All you need to do is: I had a long chat session with the Adobe help team some time ago. It seems that the problem arises when a document created in some other editor is saved as PDF this problem can arise resulting in spaces not appearing to be standard ones under ISO (or ASCII 32). With the help of the Adobe support team, I used “adobe Acrobat Pro DC” to reprocess the offending document by printing it “as Adobe” and saving the output document to the hard disk rather than actually printing it. The spaces were all present and no misspellings occurred. The help team assured me that this problem arises from outside editors and not from within Adobe. Therefore, Adobe can do nothing about it. Perhaps we could ask Microsoft and other manufacturers of editing programs to examine their processes for creating PDF files and see how this might arise.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: Graham Long <Graham.Long@...>
Dear Cearbhall,
Apologies for the late email.
Attached is the presentation NAS will be delivering at tomorrow's Board meeting. Please let me know if you have difficulty accessing the PDF.
See you tomorrow,
Regards Graham All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
I have a pdf I need to read. I tried but as the subject says everything is crammed together or at least that is how NVDA reads it.
Does anyone know of a way to straighten this out?
Thanks.
--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you.
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Gene
Does using another reader or using OCR solve the
problem? I think I had a file like that once, but I don't recall now if
those methods solved the problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] pdfs with all words crammed against the next
word with no spaces between Dan,
By coincidence, I was dealing with this topic today, actually! All you need to do is: I had a long chat session with the Adobe help team some time ago. It seems that the problem arises when a document created in some other editor is saved as PDF this problem can arise resulting in spaces not appearing to be standard ones under ISO (or ASCII 32). With the help of the Adobe support team, I used “adobe Acrobat Pro DC” to reprocess the offending document by printing it “as Adobe” and saving the output document to the hard disk rather than actually printing it. The spaces were all present and no misspellings occurred. The help team assured me that this problem arises from outside editors and not from within Adobe. Therefore, Adobe can do nothing about it. Perhaps we could ask Microsoft and other manufacturers of editing programs to examine their processes for creating PDF files and see how this might arise.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: Graham
Long <Graham.Long@...>
Dear Cearbhall,
Apologies for the late email.
Attached is the presentation NAS will be delivering at tomorrow's Board meeting. Please let me know if you have difficulty accessing the PDF.
See you tomorrow,
Regards Graham All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan
Beaver
I have a pdf I need to read. I tried but as the subject says everything is crammed together or at least that is how NVDA reads it.
Does anyone know of a way to straighten this out?
Thanks.
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: Golden Cursor and Gold wave add-on for NVDA 19.2.1
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
I have it on drop box for the earlier version that will work on that version. The link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/xy3k2rbufpzc5h3/goldenCursor-3.4.nvda-addon?dl=1
The gold wave one is at https://www.dropbox.com/s/ec7d60ut9p6zwln/goldwave-19.04.nvda-addon?dl=1 Hopefully I did not accidentally put in the wrong ones.
I have 2 folders or drop box links on my website now one is for earlier add ons before 2019.2 and another for ones after nvda 2019.3 and onwards.
I need to change it so it automatically downloads when you click on a file but have not tried it with a folder
At present it brings up a list of add ons then after you click on one it might want you to play which it can not or download it.
I will see if I can change later on tonight.
Gene nz
On 19/05/2020 8:08 am, Akshaya
Choudhary wrote:
Hello,
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Dan,
If the content of said file is not private, please e-mail me a copy and I'll see what I can do. And if it's something that doesn't require massive gyrations I'll post the steps I used if I can fix it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Dan Beaver
Thanks for the idea. I just tried to do this using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and I can't seem to get it right. All I get is a blank file.
Can you tell me what settings you used?
Thanks.
Dan Beaver On 5/20/2020 3:15 PM, Cearbhall
O'Meadhra wrote:
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Dan,
By coincidence, I was dealing with this topic today, actually! All you need to do is: I had a long chat session with the Adobe help team some time ago. It seems that the problem arises when a document created in some other editor is saved as PDF this problem can arise resulting in spaces not appearing to be standard ones under ISO (or ASCII 32). With the help of the Adobe support team, I used “adobe Acrobat Pro DC” to reprocess the offending document by printing it “as Adobe” and saving the output document to the hard disk rather than actually printing it. The spaces were all present and no misspellings occurred. The help team assured me that this problem arises from outside editors and not from within Adobe. Therefore, Adobe can do nothing about it. Perhaps we could ask Microsoft and other manufacturers of editing programs to examine their processes for creating PDF files and see how this might arise.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: Graham Long <Graham.Long@...>
Dear Cearbhall,
Apologies for the late email.
Attached is the presentation NAS will be delivering at tomorrow's Board meeting. Please let me know if you have difficulty accessing the PDF.
See you tomorrow,
Regards Graham All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
I have a pdf I need to read. I tried but as the subject says everything is crammed together or at least that is how NVDA reads it.
Does anyone know of a way to straighten this out?
Thanks.
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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pdfs with all words crammed against the next word with no spaces between
Dan Beaver
I have a pdf I need to read. I tried but as the subject says everything is crammed together or at least that is how NVDA reads it.
Does anyone know of a way to straighten this out?
Thanks.
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: SpeechHub NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later
Akshaya Choudhary
Thank you, Isaac!
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: And finally, Add-on Updater 20.06
#addonrelease
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Joseph,
I hope you enjoy your break. Thanks so much for everything you do for us.
Rosemarie
On 5/20/2020 12:11 AM, Joseph Lee
wrote:
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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
Vaibhav Bhandari
I did try writing in docks once or twice but then I continued with
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
microsoft word. NVDA's constant speaking of letters along with the different movement of curser kind of annoyed me.
On 5/20/20, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
you can use the free multidoc converter to batch-convert your old microsoft --
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari
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SpeechHub NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later
Isaac Porat
Hello
SpeechHub NVDA add-on for versions 2019.3.1 and later is available. This add-on does nothing unless SpeechHub itself is installed. With this add-on installed SpeechHub voices are available to NVDA in the usual way. Please note that SpeechHub itself was not updated for a while; the hub itself is highly reliable and the open source synthesizers work within their strengths and limitations as explained below. I use it myself all the time and people including some on this list asked me to notify them when an add-on compatible with recent NVDA versions is available. SpeechHub is an internal server that runs automatically on your computer. The hub provides text and audio processing augmenting as necessary or providing an alternative to the processing provided by the synthesizers themselves. By default SpeechHub comes with three open source synthesizers and two SAPI 5 connectors. Among the three open source synthesizers it supports by default the most interesting one is MaryTTS. This synthesizer probably provides the best human like voices available as open source and to my knowledge SpeechHub is the only system that can facilitate the use of these voices with a screen reader. Single characters processing such as key echo etc is less good but some people enjoy these voices for continuous reading. These voices are available only in English. The SAPI 5 connector uses unconventional interface processing audio allow better response for utterances produced frequently and higher speeds with some slow voices. This connector works well with some synthesizers but less well with others. A guide to why you might want to use SpeechHub is available, note that it is a bit out of date in that most computers these days should be able to work with these voices easily. http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/NVDAWhyUse.html A guide for installing SpeechHub and its NVDA add-on is available at http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/NVDADownloadInstallation.html The SpeechHub home page is at http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub.html Regards Isaac
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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
Josh Kennedy
you can use the free multidoc converter to batch-convert your old microsoft office and windows95 document to the new docx format.
http://www.multidoc-converter.com/en/download/index.html
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Re: And finally, Add-on Updater 20.06
#addonrelease
Hi, Using the current infrastructure, the best way is letting NVDA query a table of add-on identifiers and versions, which must be updated whenever new add-ons are registered and updates are released (still a manual intervention). Note that this fails for add-ons that receive updates from websites other than GitHub and ones that come with their own update mechanism. All this will change once add-ons store idea becomes reality, which will also make Add-on Updater and update mechanisms in other add-ons obsolete. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 5:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] And finally, Add-on Updater 20.06 #AddonRelease
Is there a way this can be somewhat automated so you don't have to add every new add on that gets posted to the community website?
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Re: And finally, Add-on Updater 20.06
#addonrelease
Is there a way this can be somewhat automated so you don't have to add every new add on that gets posted to the community website?
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Re: And finally, Add-on Updater 20.06
#addonrelease
Well joseph I guess with this latest addon most things are ready for the next feature update I think we have a week left before it goes. It sounds really sollid.
On 20/05/2020 7:11 pm, Joseph Lee
wrote:
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Re: And finally, Add-on Updater 20.06
#addonrelease
Pele West
Hi Joseph
Have a good break. thanks for all the work you have put in to make NVDA a better screenreader. Pele West
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