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Re: Accessible scanner drivers

Gene
 

Others may want to make correction s or expand on what I'm saying.  I haven't kept up with scanners for years but this is my understanding of how things used to be.
 
I don't know if the driver has anything too do with what the scanner supports.  It used to be that at least some scanners came with accessible OCR programs.  I don't know enough about this to generalize, but it is my impression that not as many do now.  The thing to do might be to ask the list for good scanners to use for OCR and get a program like Fine Reader to use with it, which is accessible and much cheaper than software for blind people such as Openbook or Kurzweil.  It isn't a question of whether the driver is accessible, but whether you can use the scanner with accessible scanning programs.  Do scanners usually support the TWAIN interface?  I believe Fine Reader uses that interface.  I havedn't looked into whether the TWAIN interface is necessary with such programs and others may comment.
The Epson Perfection series of scanners has been popular with blind people scanning documents for a long time.  I haven't looked into the line for years and others can comment on whether it is still popular. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers

Depends on what software you are going to use with it.
If you are using open book and/or kerzweil os something like that all you should need is twain support and that will be transparent to the software.
I havea a standalone black and white brother inexpensive laser printer that I just love and a separate cannon scanner that is working like a champ.
Hope this helps
Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers

Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony








Re: Accessible scanner drivers

Richard Kuzma
 

Depends on what software you are going to use with it.
If you are using open book and/or kerzweil os something like that all you should need is twain support and that will be transparent to the software.
I havea a standalone black and white brother inexpensive laser printer that I just love and a separate cannon scanner that is working like a champ.
Hope this helps
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers

Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony


Accessible scanner drivers

Tony Malykh
 

Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony


Re: A few questions

Akshaya Choudhary
 

One more thing, Quentin. Since I’m experimenting with Phonetic Punctuation add-on, I created a profile for the same and set it to manual activation. To  use the add-on as per my preference, I changed the punctuation level for left quote, right quote, and bang. Now, when I switch to normal profile, it has a different synthesizer and Phonetic Punctuations is turned off, like I want and like I set it to be. But, the change in the punctuation levels of one profile is carried to the other profile. I would like to have different punctuation settings for these two profiles. How can I achieve this?

In short, I wish to have a profile with Phonetic Punctuation turned on, which I can manually activate, and which has its own punctuation settings. I wish to use this profile as an alternate to the normal profile, and thus don’t want it to be tied to a single application.

 


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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA

Josh Kennedy
 

yes it is a computer-only program and yes it batch-converts multiple documents very very fast, and yes it is very easy to use. 


Re: document converter things

Gene
 

I would think you are discussing performing OCR on documents and then saving them in a new format./  That is not the original document.  it is a recognized copy and is unlikely to be what is wanted.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: ely.r@...
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] [node] document converter things

I to would strongly suggest Abby. I have been using it for years and it works very well. It is interesting that other OCR products license the Abby engine to do the OCR operation. Most of those products do not make a point of telling that to their customers.

Rick

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:36 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] document converter things

 

Try Abby fine reader, 

 

On Thu, May 21, 2020, 12:47 Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple
document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1.  the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2.  on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files
themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example,
were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can
read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read
fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document
converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the
polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.





Re: document converter things

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Try this one.  It's got a free and a professional version, is accessible with screen readers, and should do the job.


https://www.nchsoftware.com/documentconvert/index.html


Tony

On 5/21/2020 1:47 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1.  the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2.  on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example, were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.




Re: document converter things

ely.r@...
 

I to would strongly suggest Abby. I have been using it for years and it works very well. It is interesting that other OCR products license the Abby engine to do the OCR operation. Most of those products do not make a point of telling that to their customers.

Rick

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:36 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] document converter things

 

Try Abby fine reader, 

 

On Thu, May 21, 2020, 12:47 Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple
document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1.  the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2.  on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files
themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example,
were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can
read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read
fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document
converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the
polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.





Re: document converter things

Kerryn Gunness
 

u can try
zamzar.com
website to convert files to other formats

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 1:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] document converter things


Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1. the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2. on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example, were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.




Re: Golden Cursor and Gold wave add-on for NVDA 19.2.1

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Oh yes! I know the website. I have used it many times. It's usuallly the first website that comes up when you google search anything related to NVDA tutorials.
Thank you for maintaining such a useful resource.
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Hosting Zoom Meetings with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Only it’s not Daisy, it’s just MP3.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: 17 May 2020 17:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hosting Zoom Meetings with NVDA

 

There's a free DAISY training book that answers all your questions. See below link.

https://mosen.org/zoom/


Microsoft speach api version 4

bhanu computer
 

hi all, in NVDA i cant access some tts voices that i installed for SAPI4.
is there a way?
thanks in advance


Re: A few questions

Quentin Christensen
 

You're welcome :)  Configuration profiles are one of those things which are really useful but not as readily understood.  I must put it on my list to make a video or something about!

Quentin.

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:17 PM Akshaya Choudhary <acsociopath@...> wrote:
Oh Okay! It turns out that I didn't understand how configuration profiles work. Thank you for providing some clarity Quentin. I also went back and read your previous posts on configuration profiles, they really helped. Thank you for your time and effort.

--
Regards,
Sociohack



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Golden Cursor and Gold wave add-on for NVDA 19.2.1

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Sociohack


You might of already come across the website from off this list. it is a blindness related website with tips and tricks for a newly blinded person etc plus ways sighted people can help us etc.


it also has written and audio tutorials for the nvda screen reader but only for a desk top user


any of the nvda pages will link to other nvda pages it is sorta like a website inside of another but comes together on the index page.


You will see what I mean when you visit it.

the page for the earlier add ons is nvda add ons but will need to change it tonight to see if you can automatically download them instead of jumping those hoops from before as mentioned in the last email.


the link to the website is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


I usually try to keep it updated as I come across stuff or write up tutorials etc but will show what has been updated on the main page under a section called recently updated.


Plus I will let the list know if there are nvda related stuff as in tutorials.



gene nz


On 21/05/2020 8:28 pm, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
Hello, Gene. They are the correct ones. Thank you very much!
Would you like to provide a link to your website?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: A few questions

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Oh Okay! It turns out that I didn't understand how configuration profiles work. Thank you for providing some clarity Quentin. I also went back and read your previous posts on configuration profiles, they really helped. Thank you for your time and effort.

--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Golden Cursor and Gold wave add-on for NVDA 19.2.1

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello, Gene. They are the correct ones. Thank you very much!
Would you like to provide a link to your website?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: document converter things

Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...>
 

Try Abby fine reader, 


On Thu, May 21, 2020, 12:47 Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple
document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1.  the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2.  on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files
themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example,
were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can
read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read
fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document
converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the
polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.






document converter things

 

Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1.  the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2.  on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example, were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.


facebook Messenger for Windows/Mac

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

there is a Facebook Messenger app in the Microsoft store that surprisingly enough is very accessible to use.
 
It does everything the mobile messenger app does.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!


Re: A few questions

Quentin Christensen
 

Are you saying that if you are using OneCore as your default synthesizer, if you create a profile for say, Word, which uses eSpeak, if you are using Word, and open an NVDA dialog (eg NVDA+control+g to change settings), NVDA then changes to OneCore while working in the NVDA dialog?  If so, that is expected - the profile is triggered by the current program - in this case, the program has changed to NVDA so it uses the configuration profile set for NVDA itself (the normal profile unless you've set an NVDA specific profile).  Similarly, in the same situation, if you alt+tab from one Word window to another word window (holding alt down long enough to show the alt+tab window) - the voice will revert to OneCore while reading that alt+tab dialog, as that is a different program, even though conceptually you are moving from one Microsoft Word window to another.


On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:21 PM Akshaya Choudhary <acsociopath@...> wrote:
 

 

Hello Quentin,

NVDA automatically switches between synthesizers when I have more than one configuration profiles.  For example, If I have set One Core as my synthesizer, then NVDA will automatically switch to Espeak when I interact with my Windows and related applications. It goes back to One Core when I’m interacting with NVDA settings itself, reading a document or while browsing the internet.   The situation is similar with any synthesizer set as default. And, I can observe this same issue on NVDA 19.2.1 installed on my system and NVDA 20.1 which I sometimes use as a portable version. I reported the issue once on this list and was told by someone that the code for configuration profile is buggy. It would be great if you could help in any way.

 



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Regards,
Sociohack



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Training and Support Manager

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