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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
Jean yeah you are right fine reader sprint v6 a stripped down abbyy came with some epson scanners of yesteryear. However its worth noting that aparently while the sprint version does exist, its development does not mirror actual releases of abbyy fine reader. The last versions I saw on the abbyy site were versions 8, and 11, suggesting that while abbyy may have fine reader sprint for some stuff that its either discontinued or just not something they care about anymore.
On 22/05/2020 4:50 am, Gene wrote:
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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
Hmmm most modern scanners unless they are the semi expensive ie over 200 dollars will have an ocr package.
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Anything 90 dollars or under won't. All depends what you want. cannon will have an ok driver set, online html manual, etc. Hp will have a reasonable driver set, web interfaces, email printing but their smart setup and printer apps just don't work however regular drivers are a snap. Firmware updates can be a bit of a tricky beast but you can update from the web internal server and its ok. The hp connected account system is a heck of a lot better than it was a couple years back. I am unsure about epsom but they did come with abbyy fine reader sprint. Hp ones may come with readiris which sadly after version 12 aint worth it, a pitty because the prices for readiris on hps are majorly cut down. So a home version of readiris is a lot less than it would other wise be. A corperate version is slightly more expensive than the home version but aparently a user that I have as a friend and a fellow tester at dolphin and former dealer says its rubbish. Right now, the only issue which is not resolved is that abby 15 while having a lot more access is really slow on menu access. I have told support, they have tested it, and given it to the devs who have also tested it. The bug has been found and aparently fixed but there is no release date for the new v15. So either buy and use abbyy 14 or 12 for now. You can try 15 but the menus just don't speak right with any reader. Now if you want something with all the features, server controls, etc, brother stuff is the best. No eprint, but the ability for server side controls with software which I have not tried to use. An accessible ish web interface and service pannel. Not as good as hp's interface but not bad either. As usual updates from the device for firmware the updaters can be a bit hit and miss otherwise though a bit better than hp. The driver installers are slightly inaccessible on a couple screens but not to bad. The software updaters are ok enough to use. The iprint software after its set just runs but aint really accessible. The drivers themselves are ok but not that accessible though once installed its fine. A pluss for brothers is that there is a full version of paperport installed and this will work if you have any brother product on the system. The updater for that works well to. So it all depends on waht you want.
On 22/05/2020 2:38 am, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
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Re: document converter things
Ian Blackburn
I would be careful aware of NCH products and I would not trust an on line convert utility unless the files were not private.
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It would be slow but open them in librioffice and then save them but if they have very simple formatting just copy the text and paste in to notepad. This will get rid of all formatting. I use this technique and have for years to smash complex formatting from word documents and other things like webpages. you can get MS word reader which is free. Then do what I suggested - that is select all text and paste in to notepad and then save as plain text. enjoy. regards Ian
On 22/05/2020 2:09 pm, Shaun Everiss wrote:
aah ok I'lll look at that to.
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Re: document converter things
aah ok I'lll look at that to.
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On 22/05/2020 1:34 am, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,
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Re: document converter things
Hi.
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I'll look at that. I was hoping for a batch converter but oh well. These are not that important I need to do them right away.
On 22/05/2020 1:20 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:
u can try
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Re: A few questions
Andre Fisher
Hi.
This is because Symbol Pronunciation settings are not profile specific. They work the same across all profiles and the normal configuration, similar to dictionaries.
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Re: ExpressSctribe and NVDA
Betsy Grenevitch
Thank you so very much. I have some memory issues and could not remember if I had tried it with NVDA or windoweyes. Your help is greatly appreciated.
On 5/21/2020 4:30 PM, Janet Brandly
wrote:
-- Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
Gene
As I think about it, it was something like fifteen
years ago that I installed Epson software.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers It isn't a question of the driver being
inaccessible. it’s a question of the installation program being
inaccessible. Do you know how to work with object navigation and screen
review? Do you also have another screen-reader available, it can be as a
demo. I don't have any idea if you could have used the installation
software. About ten years ago, I installed Epson software. I may
have had to use something like object navigation and/or another screen-reader, I
don't remember now. But we need more information about what you have and
if you know how to use these ways of navigation.
It also sounds as though you have sighted help
now. if you install the driver or the full software, any compatible OCR
program that can cause the scanner to run and have the information transferred
to it will be able to be used. You aren't working with the driver.
You are working with the OCR program and that program is communicating with the
driver.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers To clarify my original question, my old scanner is Epson, and it's driver was
completely inaccessible, so I was unable to install it, and back then I didn't
have anyone sighted to help me - so no matter what OCR program you're using,
without a driver it's not going to work. So this time I would like to check that
the driver is accessible first and foremost. On 5/21/2020 9:21 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
Gene
It isn't a question of the driver being
inaccessible. it’s a question of the installation program being
inaccessible. Do you know how to work with object navigation and screen
review? Do you also have another screen-reader available, it can be as a
demo. I don't have any idea if you could have used the installation
software. About ten years ago, I installed Epson software. I may
have had to use something like object navigation and/or another screen-reader, I
don't remember now. But we need more information about what you have and
if you know how to use these ways of navigation.
It also sounds as though you have sighted help
now. if you install the driver or the full software, any compatible OCR
program that can cause the scanner to run and have the information transferred
to it will be able to be used. You aren't working with the driver.
You are working with the OCR program and that program is communicating with the
driver.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers To clarify my original question, my old scanner is Epson, and it's driver was
completely inaccessible, so I was unable to install it, and back then I didn't
have anyone sighted to help me - so no matter what OCR program you're using,
without a driver it's not going to work. So this time I would like to check that
the driver is accessible first and foremost. On 5/21/2020 9:21 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
Tony Malykh
To clarify my original question, my old scanner is Epson, and
it's driver was completely inaccessible, so I was unable to
install it, and back then I didn't have anyone sighted to help me
- so no matter what OCR program you're using, without a driver
it's not going to work. So this time I would like to check that
the driver is accessible first and foremost.
On 5/21/2020 9:21 AM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi Tony
I have noticed unless it states it has OCR software on the box some where it does not seem to have it. some times it will mention the software with the scanner that you can look up to see if it is there.
What I have done lately is depending on the scanner software if it is crap and not useable with a screen reader on the new printer is I have brought the KNFB reader when it is on sale a few years back for windows 10.
it is very accessible with nvda I think you can try it out and do 25 scans for free with some limitations but forget what they are.
If you have the same account on both computers with other scanners from other manufactures it seems you can use that software on those computers as well with the software.
So last time I got a muti function printer scanner package for 18 bucks as I only wanted the scanner and used the KNFB reader with it it if I remember right either used it own drivers or the scanners to use the KNFb reader.
I have the saem software on my android phone the KNFB reader and have that on a couple of phones with the same account very use full to read those things that come by real mail but not hand written.
Gene nz
On 22/05/2020 6:10 am, Tyaseta Rabita
Nugraeni Sardjono wrote:
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ExpressSctribe and NVDA
Janet Brandly
Hello,
ExpressScribe is accessible with screen readers. I used it with WE throughout an entire course in medical transcription I took 10 years ago. I tried the demo version recently and it worked with NVDA just fine.
Hope this helps.
Janet
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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 02:40 PM, Arlene wrote:
I had to fill out a Canadian Government form that was PDF I had to call the CNIB to get help filling out the form.As I've mentioned in the past, there are a very great many people who do not know how to design a fillable form, whether in PDF or MS-Word. I've had a few US government forms that were billed as fillable that either were not at all, or were, but you couldn't save the filled-in form, which is pretty useless from a record keeping perspective. And when you're actually dealing with fillable forms, type conversions often screw things up. It's pretty much a black box until you start trying to work with a given PDF file, regardless of what is claimed. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: A few questions
Akshaya Choudhary
Okay, I'm finding out that no matter what i do, the symbol/punctuation levels from one profile are carried over to the other. Is this an issue with NVDA in general, or with my copy in particular? It seems counter intuitive that two different profiles cannot have two different sets of punctuation settings.
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
Arlene
Alright, I’ll go check it out! Thanks. The reason I asked that question about PDF I had to fill out a Canadian Government form that was PDF I had to call the CNIB to get help filling out the form.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: May 21, 2020 11:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
Sorry, the link I meant to post was: http://www.multidoc-converter.com/en/index.html Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
Sorry, the link I meant to post was: http://www.multidoc-converter.com/en/index.html
It tells you what types can be converted on its main page. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 02:17 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, will it convert PDF documents to word documents or whatever you have on your computer?http://www.multidoc-converter.com/en/support/index.html -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
Arlene
Hi, will it convert PDF documents to word documents or whatever you have on your computer?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: May 21, 2020 7:31 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA
yes it is a computer-only program and yes it batch-converts multiple documents very very fast, and yes it is very easy to use.
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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...>
Hp n canon scanner have software from factory which is accessible without 3rd party app
On Thu, May 21, 2020, 21:38 Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...> wrote: Hello all,
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Re: Accessible scanner drivers
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 01:59 PM, sardar shankar wrote:
may be oftopic can any one tell me how to do auto scan in omni pageIt is off-topic. If, after having consulted Omnipage's own help page for this, http://omnipage.helpmax.net/en/bringing-images-into-omnipage/scanning/scanning-pages/, which gives step-by-step instructions for virtually any type of document, you need additional help please start a topic in the Chat Subgroup. NVDA Chat Subgroup Addresses
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