Re: Tony's addons - updates
Hi Tony, This is a whole lot of work that you have done. I wonder why your add-ons are not available on the NVDA community site. That way they could be automatically updated with an app. Why do you have us going to a separate site to get these? Mary
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On May 25, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...> wrote:
Hello NVDA community,
I have implemented a lot of new features in
my add-ons since
my last announcement here more than a year ago, so I would like
to share all
these new features – hopefully you guys will find some of them
useful. I
present my new add-ons: Phonetic punctuation and Tony’s
enhancements, as well
as I added many new features to BrowserNav. In the end of this
email I also
mention my other add-ons, just in case someone hasn’t heard of
them, they have
only been updated with bugfixes. This is a pretty long email, so
I structured
it with headings.
Please download latest versions of my add-ons
directly from their
respective github pages – the links are provided in this email.
Phonetic punctuation
·
Github
page
·
Short
audio demo
·
Download
latest version
This add-on allows you to substitute
punctuation marks, and
any other part of speech configured by a regular expression with
an auditory
icon (custom sound). Most common use of phonetic punctuation
would be for writing
code, where it is essential to know all the punctuation marks,
but other uses
can include: replacing the word “blank” with a sound, replacing
timestamps or
other frequently repeated text with a sound, etc. Configuring
phonetic
punctuation requires knowledge of regular expressions.
Thanks to Kara Goldfinch for contributing
auditory icons for
some punctuation marks!
BrowserNav
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
BrowserNav is a collection of
improvements to
user experience in browsers. I added quite a few new features to
it since last
release.
Horizontal indentation using tones
You can configure BrowserNav to express
horizontal
indentation of a currently focused element using tone – similar
to a built in
NVDA feature of reporting indentation with tones in text
documents. This allows
you to better understand the layout of the page. For example, it
allows you to
hear malformed HTML tables, that is when NVDA doesn’t see a
table as a real
table, yet the elements are still aligned in a tabular fashion
on the screen.
It also greatly simplifies browsing hierarchical trees of
comments on websites
such as reddit, facebook, hacker news – now the tone would
indicate the level
of the comment.
Please note that there are also commands to
find
next/previous element with the same horizontal indentation,
which you might
find handy.
Crackling for QuickNav commands
In all my add-ons crackling is an indicator
of how far we
have just jumped in the document when some navigational
keystroke is pressed. I
implemented this feature for built-in NVDA QuickNav commands as
well. Now when
you press H for next heading, you can hear crackling, and
judging by the length
of such crackling you can quickly and intuitively figure out
whether the next heading
was close by or you just jumped over a lot of text.
Browser marks
Think of this feature as regular expression
enabled
bookmarks for browser. You can configure a single regular
expression, that can
be arbitrary largeand include all the potential bookmarks on all your
webpages, and then you
can quickly jump to next/previous browser mark using J or
Shift+J commands in
browse mode. For example, as a frequent Amazon shopper, I like
to be able to
quickly jump to things like “5 items in cart” and “your orders”.
So I have
configured my browser mark regular expression to be:
(^\d+ items? in cart$|^Your orders$)
Please note that the regular expression must
match the whole
paragraph exactly, hence be careful with ^ and $ regular
expression qualifiers.
Please also note that this regular expression will apply to all
web pages and
all browsers, so be as specific as possible.
Accessibility for semi-accessible edit boxes
Many web pages these days are using a fancy
HTML text edit
component called Monaco – it provides syntax highlighting for
sighted people,
but it has one major flaw: it is not accessible, that is the
edit box appears
empty. For example Jupyter and hacker rank use such a text
editor among others.
You can still retrieve the contents of the edit box by pressing
Control+A
Control+C and then pasting it to the editor of your choice.
However, repeating
this every time is tedious, therefore I automated this process.
Now you can navigate
to said edit box and simply press NVDA+e to view or edit it.
Tony’s enhancements
·
Github
page
·
Download
latest version
This is a hodgepodge of small improvements to
various parts of
NVDA, not logically connected in any way. All the options are
disabled by
default and need to be enabled manually in the preferences
window.
NVDA volume
Allows to adjust the volume of all the NVDA
sounds,
including beeps and speech.
Automatic language switching
Some languages use non-Latin script, e.g.
Russian, Arabic,
Chinese, etc. There is no reason why NVDA wouldn’t be able to
automatically
switch synthesizer language between English and those foreign
languages. Now I
bring this feature to live. Automatically switching between two
Latin-based
languages is not supported at this time. Please note that your
synthesizer must
support all these languages for this feature to be effective.
Enhanced table navigation commands
I added commands like
Control+Alt+Home/End/PageUp/PageDown
to jump to first or last row or column. I also added keystrokes
to jump to 1..10th
row or column, please check add-on documentation for these
shortcuts.
Enhanced move by word commands
Most text editors support
Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow
commands for word navigation. However the definition of the word
changes from
one program to another. This is especially true of modern
web-based text
editors, such as Monaco. NVDA should know the definition of word
in given
program in order to speak words correctly. If NVDA doesn't know
the exact
definition, then either words are going to be skipped, or
pronounced multiple
times. Moreover, some web-based text editors position the cursor
in the end of
the word, instead of the beginning, making editing much harder
for visually
impaired users. In order to combat this problem I have created
enhanced word
navigation commands, that take the word definition from
Notepad++ and they do
not rely on program's definition of words, but rather parse
lines into words on
NVDA's side. The Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow gesture is not
even sent to the
program, thus ensuring the consistency of the speech.
This option overrides default
Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow
commands in NVDA.
Real-time console output
If you work with command line applications
that print out a
lot of logs, it might be not the best behavior for NVDA to read
out all these
logs line by line, since NVDA can be speaking much slower than
those lines are
being printed, thus NVDA might be speaking some lines that were
printed a
minute ago. I modified the way NVDA speaks command line output
to be more
realtime. The basic logic is like this: if a new line appears on
the screen and
NVDA is currently speaking something that was shown on the
screen more than a
second ago, then we interrupt current utterance and speak the
most recent line.
Speaking output this way better represents what’s going on in
command line window
in real time. There is also an option to beep on every update in
command line.
Dynamic keystrokes
I call a keystroke dynamic if it changes the
state of an
application. Often times we’d want NVDA to speak the updated
change
automatically, but NVDA does nothing for keystrokes that it’s
not aware of. An
example of such a keystroke would be F2 in Notepad++ that jumps
to the next
bookmark – you would want NVDA to speak the current line
automatically. Many other
editors have such keystrokes as well. Now you can configure the
list of
keystrokes and NVDA will automatically speak current line after
them. Please
check github page for more information.
Suppressing unwanted “unselected” messages
If certain text is selected in a text editor,
and in the next
moment no longer selected, NVDA would say “unselected” and then
the original
text that was selected. In certain situations this is not a
desirable behavior.
For example if you have some text selected, and then you press
Control+Home, to
go to the very beginning of the document, NVDA would first speak
the first line
of the document, then “unselected”, then the original selection.
I felt this
was annoying, so I found a way to suppress this message, while
still keeping
the “unselected” message when you indeed unselect your selection
by character,
or word, etc
Preventing double insert keystroke
If you press insert key twice accidentally,
it would trigger
insert mode in your application. Since Insert is a special key
in NVDA, this
behavior cannot be disabled using input gestures dialog in NVDA,
yet this was
happening too often to me, so I wrote a function to disable
double insert key
backstroke. If you still would like to toggle insert mode, you
can do so by
pressing NVDA+F2, and then insert key.
Insert mode detector
As another layer of defense against
accidental insert mode I
implemented this feature. It monitors current line of text and
looks at how it
changes when you type alphanumeric keys. If it seems like
characters are being overwritten,
it will beep on every character. Similar to built-in caps lock
on warning beep.
Fixing a bug when focus gets stuck in the taskbar when
pressing
Windows+Numbers
There is a bug in Windows 10, and possibly in
other
versions. When switching between applications using
Windows+number shortcut
sometimes the focus gets stuck in the taskbar area instead of
jumping to the
window being switched to. So I implemented a workaround. The
add-on detects
this situation and plays a short low-pitch beep when this
situation is
detected, then the add-on fixes it automatically by bringing
focus to the desired
application.
TextNav
·
Github page
·
Audio
demo
·
Download
latest version
TextNav allows you to quickly
find the
beginning of article on a web page, and also skip over junk HTML
elements, such
as menus, images, ads, etc.
SentenceNav
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
Allows you to navigate text
sentence-by-sentence or phrase-by-phrase, as opposed to by word,
character or
line.
IndentNav
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
This add-on improves
navigation around source
code files for programming by allowing to find lines with the
same/greater/smaller
indentation level. But it also can be used for structured text
files, where
structure is expressed by the indentation level.
Bluetooth Audio
·
Github
page
·
Download
latest version
Improves sound quality for
those who use NVDA
with Bluetooth or other wireless audio devices by constantly
playing silent
sound.
AudioChart
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
AudioChart allows you to sonify time series
in Microsoft
Excel.
Thanks for reading this! Let me know
what you think about these new features!
--Tony
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Hi all, StationPlaylist add-on 20.06.1 is now available. This release fixes how NVDA manages new broadcast profiles. Specifically, if you create new broadcast profiles, switch to these and attempt to save add-on settings, NVDA may say “configuration saved” while not saving add-on settings. As always the new update is just an add-on update check away. Cheers, Joseph
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Just an FYI, I retitled this topic to make later searching easier. --
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.
~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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It's probably report mouse shape changes setting.
Open mouse settings, control NVDA m, Then read the
current line. I think you are on the setting to turn this on and
off. if it is checked, uncheck it with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the o.k. button.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] Curser
I don’t know what caused this but today my computer has
started saying “edit curser”, app star curser and normal curser. However
it got there, How do I get it to stop? Marilyn
Windows 10, N V D A and Outlook 2019
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Marilyn and Don Bilderback
I don’t know what caused this but today my computer has started saying “edit cursor”, app star cursor and normal cursor. However it got there, How do I get it to stop? Marilyn
Windows 10, N V D A and Outlook 2019
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Re: Tony's addons - updates
Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
Tony’, let me say your work on these excellent add-ons is very much appreciated.
I really love this Phonetic punctuation add-on· Like knowing when text is wrapped within parenthesis or brackets, but didn't want to keep hearing NVDA saying the word left paren, right paren etc. Now with your cool add-on there's a nice audio cue that plays whenever these punctuation marks are encountered. Allows me to really visualize the layout of a document being read by NVDA.
Nice job on the auditory icons Kara. Really love them!
Going to spend some time learning the others. The Browser add-on can be quite useful for me when accessing frequently visited pages.
Keep up the GREAT work Tony, your add-ons are making an already great screen reader in NVDA even more flexible.
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On 5/25/2020 5:17 PM, Tony Malykh wrote: Hello NVDA community,
I have implemented a lot of new features in my add-ons since my last announcement here more than a year ago, so I would like to share all these new features – hopefully you guys will find some of them useful. I present my new add-ons: Phonetic punctuation and Tony’s enhancements, as well as I added many new features to BrowserNav. In the end of this email I also mention my other add-ons, just in case someone hasn’t heard of them, they have only been updated with bugfixes. This is a pretty long email, so I structured it with headings.
Please download latest versions of my add-ons directly from their respective github pages – the links are provided in this email.
Phonetic punctuation
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/>
·Short audio demo <https://soundcloud.com/user-977282820/nvda-phonetic-punctuation-demo>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon>
This add-on allows you to substitute punctuation marks, and any other part of speech configured by a regular expression with an auditory icon (custom sound). Most common use of phonetic punctuation would be for writing code, where it is essential to know all the punctuation marks, but other uses can include: replacing the word “blank” with a sound, replacing timestamps or other frequently repeated text with a sound, etc. Configuring phonetic punctuation requires knowledge of regular expressions.
Thanks to Kara Goldfinch for contributing auditory icons for some punctuation marks!
BrowserNav
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon>
BrowserNav is a collection of improvements to user experience in browsers. I added quite a few new features to it since last release.
Horizontal indentation using tones
You can configure BrowserNav to express horizontal indentation of a currently focused element using tone – similar to a built in NVDA feature of reporting indentation with tones in text documents. This allows you to better understand the layout of the page. For example, it allows you to hear malformed HTML tables, that is when NVDA doesn’t see a table as a real table, yet the elements are still aligned in a tabular fashion on the screen. It also greatly simplifies browsing hierarchical trees of comments on websites such as reddit, facebook, hacker news – now the tone would indicate the level of the comment.
Please note that there are also commands to find next/previous element with the same horizontal indentation, which you might find handy.
Crackling for QuickNav commands
In all my add-ons crackling is an indicator of how far we have just jumped in the document when some navigational keystroke is pressed. I implemented this feature for built-in NVDA QuickNav commands as well. Now when you press H for next heading, you can hear crackling, and judging by the length of such crackling you can quickly and intuitively figure out whether the next heading was close by or you just jumped over a lot of text.
Browser marks
Think of this feature as regular expression enabled bookmarks for browser. You can configure a single regular expression, that can be arbitrary largeand include all the potential bookmarks on all your webpages, and then you can quickly jump to next/previous browser mark using J or Shift+J commands in browse mode. For example, as a frequent Amazon shopper, I like to be able to quickly jump to things like “5 items in cart” and “your orders”. So I have configured my browser mark regular expression to be:
(^\d+ items? in cart$|^Your orders$)
Please note that the regular expression must match the whole paragraph exactly, hence be careful with ^ and $ regular expression qualifiers. Please also note that this regular expression will apply to all web pages and all browsers, so be as specific as possible.
Accessibility for semi-accessible edit boxes
Many web pages these days are using a fancy HTML text edit component called Monaco – it provides syntax highlighting for sighted people, but it has one major flaw: it is not accessible, that is the edit box appears empty. For example Jupyter and hacker rank use such a text editor among others. You can still retrieve the contents of the edit box by pressing Control+A Control+C and then pasting it to the editor of your choice. However, repeating this every time is tedious, therefore I automated this process. Now you can navigate to said edit box and simply press NVDA+e to view or edit it.
Tony’s enhancements
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon>
This is a hodgepodge of small improvements to various parts of NVDA, not logically connected in any way. All the options are disabled by default and need to be enabled manually in the preferences window.
NVDA volume
Allows to adjust the volume of all the NVDA sounds, including beeps and speech.
Automatic language switching
Some languages use non-Latin script, e.g. Russian, Arabic, Chinese, etc. There is no reason why NVDA wouldn’t be able to automatically switch synthesizer language between English and those foreign languages. Now I bring this feature to live. Automatically switching between two Latin-based languages is not supported at this time. Please note that your synthesizer must support all these languages for this feature to be effective.
Enhanced table navigation commands
I added commands like Control+Alt+Home/End/PageUp/PageDown to jump to first or last row or column. I also added keystrokes to jump to 1..10^th row or column, please check add-on documentation for these shortcuts.
Enhanced move by word commands
Most text editors support Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow commands for word navigation. However the definition of the word changes from one program to another. This is especially true of modern web-based text editors, such as Monaco. NVDA should know the definition of word in given program in order to speak words correctly. If NVDA doesn't know the exact definition, then either words are going to be skipped, or pronounced multiple times. Moreover, some web-based text editors position the cursor in the end of the word, instead of the beginning, making editing much harder for visually impaired users. In order to combat this problem I have created enhanced word navigation commands, that take the word definition from Notepad++ and they do not rely on program's definition of words, but rather parse lines into words on NVDA's side. The Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow gesture is not even sent to the program, thus ensuring the consistency of the speech.
This option overrides default Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow commands in NVDA.
Real-time console output
If you work with command line applications that print out a lot of logs, it might be not the best behavior for NVDA to read out all these logs line by line, since NVDA can be speaking much slower than those lines are being printed, thus NVDA might be speaking some lines that were printed a minute ago. I modified the way NVDA speaks command line output to be more realtime. The basic logic is like this: if a new line appears on the screen and NVDA is currently speaking something that was shown on the screen more than a second ago, then we interrupt current utterance and speak the most recent line. Speaking output this way better represents what’s going on in command line window in real time. There is also an option to beep on every update in command line.
Dynamic keystrokes
I call a keystroke dynamic if it changes the state of an application. Often times we’d want NVDA to speak the updated change automatically, but NVDA does nothing for keystrokes that it’s not aware of. An example of such a keystroke would be F2 in Notepad++ that jumps to the next bookmark – you would want NVDA to speak the current line automatically. Many other editors have such keystrokes as well. Now you can configure the list of keystrokes and NVDA will automatically speak current line after them. Please check github page for more information.
Suppressing unwanted “unselected” messages
If certain text is selected in a text editor, and in the next moment no longer selected, NVDA would say “unselected” and then the original text that was selected. In certain situations this is not a desirable behavior. For example if you have some text selected, and then you press Control+Home, to go to the very beginning of the document, NVDA would first speak the first line of the document, then “unselected”, then the original selection. I felt this was annoying, so I found a way to suppress this message, while still keeping the “unselected” message when you indeed unselect your selection by character, or word, etc
Preventing double insert keystroke
If you press insert key twice accidentally, it would trigger insert mode in your application. Since Insert is a special key in NVDA, this behavior cannot be disabled using input gestures dialog in NVDA, yet this was happening too often to me, so I wrote a function to disable double insert key backstroke. If you still would like to toggle insert mode, you can do so by pressing NVDA+F2, and then insert key.
Insert mode detector
As another layer of defense against accidental insert mode I implemented this feature. It monitors current line of text and looks at how it changes when you type alphanumeric keys. If it seems like characters are being overwritten, it will beep on every character. Similar to built-in caps lock on warning beep.
Fixing a bug when focus gets stuck in the taskbar when pressing Windows+Numbers
There is a bug in Windows 10, and possibly in other versions. When switching between applications using Windows+number shortcut sometimes the focus gets stuck in the taskbar area instead of jumping to the window being switched to. So I implemented a workaround. The add-on detects this situation and plays a short low-pitch beep when this situation is detected, then the add-on fixes it automatically by bringing focus to the desired application.
TextNav
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/>
·Audio demo <https://soundcloud.com/user-977282820/textnav-promo>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon>
TextNav allows you to quickly find the beginning of article on a web page, and also skip over junk HTML elements, such as menus, images, ads, etc.
SentenceNav
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon>
Allows you to navigate text sentence-by-sentence or phrase-by-phrase, as opposed to by word, character or line.
IndentNav
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon>
This add-on improves navigation around source code files for programming by allowing to find lines with the same/greater/smaller indentation level. But it also can be used for structured text files, where structure is expressed by the indentation level.
Bluetooth Audio
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon>
Improves sound quality for those who use NVDA with Bluetooth or other wireless audio devices by constantly playing silent sound.
AudioChart
·Github page <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-audio-chart/>
·Download latest version <https://github.com/mltony/nvda-audio-chart/releases/latest/download/audioChart.nvda-addon>
AudioChart allows you to sonify time series in Microsoft Excel.
Thanks for reading this! Let me know what you think about these new features!
--Tony
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Re: New with NVDA need help
your welcome. Also there is NVDA key s first press of NVDA key s, will turn speech mode off, secon press of s speech mode beeps, and third press of s, speech mode talk.
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On 5/25/2020 3:23 PM, Mard, Elizabeth@DDS wrote: Thank you!
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brice Mijares via groups.io Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 3:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] New with NVDA need help
NVDA key q.
On 5/25/2020 2:58 PM, Mard, Elizabeth@DDS wrote:
Hello,
I am in the process of creating accessible documents and was given the NVDA application to test document accessibility. I have been using it on my lap top at work with great success, but due to C-19 I am using it at home on my HP tablet and I cannot figure out how to get it to quit. The instructional guide book does not offer guidance regarding a tablet or at least I could not find it. Can anyone assist me with this?
Thank you,
Elizabeth Mård, MS Community Program Specialist II
Department of Developmental Services
Community Services Division
Work Services Section
1600 9th Street, Room 340, MS 3-13 Sacramento, CA 95814 *(916) 651-3229*
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Re: Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
Thanks, that worked! All is reading well now. -Laurie M.
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On Monday, May 25, 2020, 04:15:19 PM PDT, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I haven't read about this in a long time but it probably decides which language to use depending on how the document is coded, if such coding exists. In HTML, for example, code is placed in the document telling the browser which language the document is in. Evidently, you received a document with the code for a language other than English, though most of the document is in English. To turn the feature off, it's on by default, use the command NVDA key control v to open the voice dialog. Tab until you get to a check box that says automatic language switching when supported. If it is checked, press the space bar to uncheck it. Then tab to and activate the ok button. Gene ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 6:07 PM Subject: Where is the auto language switching setting in NVDA? Re: [nvda] Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
If there was auto language switching, wouldn't that switch from one language to another rather than continuing in one? Where is that setting? Thanks, Laurie M. On Monday, May 25, 2020, 03:32:37 PM PDT, Shaun Everiss < sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I just turn off auto language switching. Its really no good doing other language speech unless you don't use espeak in anything other than english. I am sorry but while I like the clear and robotic fast nature of espeak I don't find other languages clear at all. On 26/05/2020 10:21 am, Laurie Mehta via groups.io wrote: > Hello, > I have stumbled upon a strange thing and hope someone has some helpful advice for this problem. > When I receive a document that is 99% in English with a small portion in another language NVDA reads that entire document (Word or pdf) as if it is entirely in that other language (not English.) What I mean is that NVDA is pronouncing the words as if in that other language and even going over a word character by character, NVDA spells in that other language's alphabet. > This has happened before and for short documents copying into notepad yields an entirely readable text. A notepad file is less practical for a long document, though, and I think that NVDA ought to be able to read a document in a language even if it has a line or two in a second language. > > For example, I recently downloaded a document that is in English with only a line or so in Italian from a Vatican website. Saved in either Word or as pdf, the whole document reads as if NVDA is trying to read it in Italian-- even using the Italian alphabet when I move character by character. If I copy and paste the document into notepad, it reads in English with no problem. > > I think that I must have some setting set in NVDA which is causing this issue but I don't know where to look for setting things right. > It seems that NVDA is recognizing some trigger to adjust to a particular language for reading, but I don't know how or where to find that trigger to possibly remove it. > Obviously I could just make a very long txt file for the document to read it, but if I can retain the headings and other formatting of the almost 200 page original I would prefer that. > > Do any of you have some helpful advice for this issue? > Thanks! > > Laurie M.
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Re: Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
Thanks Gene (NZ) and Shaun! I made the change and now all reads well. -Laurie M.
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On Monday, May 25, 2020, 04:17:19 PM PDT, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi If i remember right under the voice settings menu. I usually have 2 of the settings turned off down there Automatic language switching (when supported) and the one under it i un check. That way I do not get that trying to think it is another language if on the site. Gene nz On 26/05/2020 11:07 am, Laurie Mehta via groups.io wrote: If there was auto language switching, wouldn't that switch from one language to another rather than continuing in one? Where is that setting? Thanks, Laurie M. Well I just turn off auto language switching. Its really no good doing other language speech unless you don't use espeak in anything other than english. I am sorry but while I like the clear and robotic fast nature of espeak I don't find other languages clear at all. On 26/05/2020 10:21 am, Laurie Mehta via groups.io wrote: > Hello, > I have stumbled upon a strange thing and hope someone has some helpful advice for this problem. > When I receive a document that is 99% in English with a small portion in another language NVDA reads that entire document (Word or pdf) as if it is entirely in that other language (not English.) What I mean is that NVDA is pronouncing the words as if in that other language and even going over a word character by character, NVDA spells in that other language's alphabet. > This has happened before and for short documents copying into notepad yields an entirely readable text. A notepad file is less practical for a long document, though, and I think that NVDA ought to be able to read a document in a language even if it has a line or two in a second language. > > For example, I recently downloaded a document that is in English with only a line or so in Italian from a Vatican website. Saved in either Word or as pdf, the whole document reads as if NVDA is trying to read it in Italian-- even using the Italian alphabet when I move character by character. If I copy and paste the document into notepad, it reads in English with no problem. > > I think that I must have some setting set in NVDA which is causing this issue but I don't know where to look for setting things right. > It seems that NVDA is recognizing some trigger to adjust to a particular language for reading, but I don't know how or where to find that trigger to possibly remove it. > Obviously I could just make a very long txt file for the document to read it, but if I can retain the headings and other formatting of the almost 200 page original I would prefer that. > > Do any of you have some helpful advice for this issue? > Thanks! > > Laurie M. > > >
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Re: Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
When you create a document, most programs (eg Word) allow you to specify the language it is written in. You can also specify a different language for portions of the document in another language. What has most likely happened here, is that the editor was set to Italian, so NVDA tried to read it with Italian inflections, even though the words themselves were in English.
So, your options are to either tell Word the document is actually in English, or set NVDA to ignore language changes and simply read everything in English.
Regards
Quentin.
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Hello,
I have stumbled upon a strange thing and hope someone has some helpful advice for this problem.
When I receive a document that is 99% in English with a small portion in another language NVDA reads that entire document (Word or pdf) as if it is entirely in that other language (not English.) What I mean is that NVDA is pronouncing the words as if in that other language and even going over a word character by character, NVDA spells in that other language's alphabet.
This has happened before and for short documents copying into notepad yields an entirely readable text. A notepad file is less practical for a long document, though, and I think that NVDA ought to be able to read a document in a language even if it has a line or two in a second language.
For example, I recently downloaded a document that is in English with only a line or so in Italian from a Vatican website. Saved in either Word or as pdf, the whole document reads as if NVDA is trying to read it in Italian-- even using the Italian alphabet when I move character by character. If I copy and paste the document into notepad, it reads in English with no problem.
I think that I must have some setting set in NVDA which is causing this issue but I don't know where to look for setting things right.
It seems that NVDA is recognizing some trigger to adjust to a particular language for reading, but I don't know how or where to find that trigger to possibly remove it.
Obviously I could just make a very long txt file for the document to read it, but if I can retain the headings and other formatting of the almost 200 page original I would prefer that.
Do any of you have some helpful advice for this issue?
Thanks!
Laurie M.
-- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager
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Re: Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
Hi
If i remember right under the voice settings menu.
I usually have 2 of the settings turned off down there Automatic
language switching (when supported) and the one under it i un
check.
That way I do not get that trying to think it is another language
if on the site.
Gene nz
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On 26/05/2020 11:07 am, Laurie Mehta
via groups.io wrote:
If there was auto language switching, wouldn't that switch
from one language to another rather than continuing in one?
Where is that setting?
Thanks,
Laurie M.
Well I just turn off auto language switching.
Its really no good doing other language speech unless you
don't use
espeak in anything other than english.
I am sorry but while I like the clear and robotic fast
nature of espeak
I don't find other languages clear at all.
On 26/05/2020 10:21 am, Laurie Mehta via groups.io
wrote:
> Hello,
> I have stumbled upon a strange thing and hope
someone has some helpful advice for this problem.
> When I receive a document that is 99% in English
with a small portion in another language NVDA reads that
entire document (Word or pdf) as if it is entirely in
that other language (not English.) What I mean is that
NVDA is pronouncing the words as if in that other
language and even going over a word character by
character, NVDA spells in that other language's
alphabet.
> This has happened before and for short documents
copying into notepad yields an entirely readable text. A
notepad file is less practical for a long document,
though, and I think that NVDA ought to be able to read a
document in a language even if it has a line or two in a
second language.
>
> For example, I recently downloaded a document that
is in English with only a line or so in Italian from a
Vatican website. Saved in either Word or as pdf, the
whole document reads as if NVDA is trying to read it in
Italian-- even using the Italian alphabet when I move
character by character. If I copy and paste the document
into notepad, it reads in English with no problem.
>
> I think that I must have some setting set in NVDA
which is causing this issue but I don't know where to
look for setting things right.
> It seems that NVDA is recognizing some trigger to
adjust to a particular language for reading, but I don't
know how or where to find that trigger to possibly
remove it.
> Obviously I could just make a very long txt file
for the document to read it, but if I can retain the
headings and other formatting of the almost 200 page
original I would prefer that.
>
> Do any of you have some helpful advice for this
issue?
> Thanks!
>
> Laurie M.
>
>
>
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Re: Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
I haven't read about this in a long time but it
probably decides which language to use depending on how the document is coded,
if such coding exists. In HTML, for example, code is placed in the
document telling the browser which language the document is in. Evidently,
you received a document with the code for a language other than English, though
most of the document is in English.
To turn the feature off, it's on by default, use
the command NVDA key control v to open the voice dialog. Tab until you get
to a check box that says automatic language switching when supported. If
it is checked, press the space bar to uncheck it.
Then tab to and activate the ok
button.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 6:07 PM
Subject: Where is the auto language switching setting in NVDA? Re:
[nvda] Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in
multiple languages
If there was auto language switching, wouldn't that switch from one
language to another rather than continuing in one? Where is that
setting? Thanks, Laurie M.
On Monday, May 25, 2020, 03:32:37 PM PDT, Shaun Everiss < sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I just turn off auto language switching. Its really no good doing other language speech unless you don't use
espeak in anything other than english. I am sorry but while I like the clear and robotic fast nature of
espeak I don't find other languages clear at all.
On 26/05/2020 10:21 am,
Laurie Mehta via groups.io wrote: > Hello, > I
have stumbled upon a strange thing and hope someone has some helpful advice for
this problem. > When I receive a document that is 99% in
English with a small portion in another language NVDA reads that entire document
(Word or pdf) as if it is entirely in that other language (not English.) What I
mean is that NVDA is pronouncing the words as if in that other language and even
going over a word character by character, NVDA spells in that other language's
alphabet. > This has happened before and for short documents
copying into notepad yields an entirely readable text. A notepad file is less
practical for a long document, though, and I think that NVDA ought to be able to
read a document in a language even if it has a line or two in a second
language. > > For example, I recently
downloaded a document that is in English with only a line or so in Italian from
a Vatican website. Saved in either Word or as pdf, the whole document reads as
if NVDA is trying to read it in Italian-- even using the Italian alphabet when I
move character by character. If I copy and paste the document into notepad, it
reads in English with no problem. > > I think
that I must have some setting set in NVDA which is causing this issue but I
don't know where to look for setting things right. > It seems
that NVDA is recognizing some trigger to adjust to a particular language for
reading, but I don't know how or where to find that trigger to possibly remove
it. > Obviously I could just make a very long txt file for the
document to read it, but if I can retain the headings and other formatting of
the almost 200 page original I would prefer that. > > Do any of you have some helpful advice for this issue? > Thanks! > > Laurie M.
> > >
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Re: New with NVDA need help
To unload NVDA, if that's what you want to do, the
command is NVDA key q, then enter. Not just NVDA key q.
Gene
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Gene
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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New with NVDA need help
Actually, it did not work. I need
to turn it off and the NVDA q is not working. -----Original
Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io < nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brice
Mijares via groups.io Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 3:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda]
New with NVDA need help NVDA key q. On 5/25/2020 2:58 PM, Mard, Elizabeth@DDS wrote: > >
Hello, > > I am in the process of creating accessible documents and
was given the > NVDA application to test document accessibility. I have
been using it > on my lap top at work with great success, but due to C-19
I am using > it at home on my HP tablet and I cannot figure out how
to get it to > quit. The instructional guide book does not offer guidance
regarding a > tablet or at least I could not find it. Can anyone assist
me with this? > > Thank you, > > Elizabeth Mård,
MS > Community Program Specialist II > > Department of
Developmental Services > > Community Services
Division > > Work Services Section > > 1600 9th Street,
Room 340, MS 3-13 > Sacramento, CA 95814 > *(916)
651-3229* > >
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Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
If there was auto language switching, wouldn't that switch from one language to another rather than continuing in one? Where is that setting? Thanks, Laurie M.
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On Monday, May 25, 2020, 03:32:37 PM PDT, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I just turn off auto language switching. Its really no good doing other language speech unless you don't use espeak in anything other than english. I am sorry but while I like the clear and robotic fast nature of espeak I don't find other languages clear at all. On 26/05/2020 10:21 am, Laurie Mehta via groups.io wrote: > Hello, > I have stumbled upon a strange thing and hope someone has some helpful advice for this problem. > When I receive a document that is 99% in English with a small portion in another language NVDA reads that entire document (Word or pdf) as if it is entirely in that other language (not English.) What I mean is that NVDA is pronouncing the words as if in that other language and even going over a word character by character, NVDA spells in that other language's alphabet. > This has happened before and for short documents copying into notepad yields an entirely readable text. A notepad file is less practical for a long document, though, and I think that NVDA ought to be able to read a document in a language even if it has a line or two in a second language. > > For example, I recently downloaded a document that is in English with only a line or so in Italian from a Vatican website. Saved in either Word or as pdf, the whole document reads as if NVDA is trying to read it in Italian-- even using the Italian alphabet when I move character by character. If I copy and paste the document into notepad, it reads in English with no problem. > > I think that I must have some setting set in NVDA which is causing this issue but I don't know where to look for setting things right. > It seems that NVDA is recognizing some trigger to adjust to a particular language for reading, but I don't know how or where to find that trigger to possibly remove it. > Obviously I could just make a very long txt file for the document to read it, but if I can retain the headings and other formatting of the almost 200 page original I would prefer that. > > Do any of you have some helpful advice for this issue? > Thanks! > > Laurie M.
> > >
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Re: Tony's addons - updates
Thanks so very much Toni! I am blown away by all of these add-ons! I love what you did by putting the crackling sound to tell us how far down the page headings are down the page. I really like Text nav to move right to the text on the web page. You have made my life easier!
David Moore
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Hello NVDA community,
I have implemented a lot of new features in
my add-ons since
my last announcement here more than a year ago, so I would like
to share all
these new features – hopefully you guys will find some of them
useful. I
present my new add-ons: Phonetic punctuation and Tony’s
enhancements, as well
as I added many new features to BrowserNav. In the end of this
email I also
mention my other add-ons, just in case someone hasn’t heard of
them, they have
only been updated with bugfixes. This is a pretty long email, so
I structured
it with headings.
Please download latest versions of my add-ons
directly from their
respective github pages – the links are provided in this email.
Phonetic punctuation
·
Github
page
·
Short
audio demo
·
Download
latest version
This add-on allows you to substitute
punctuation marks, and
any other part of speech configured by a regular expression with
an auditory
icon (custom sound). Most common use of phonetic punctuation
would be for writing
code, where it is essential to know all the punctuation marks,
but other uses
can include: replacing the word “blank” with a sound, replacing
timestamps or
other frequently repeated text with a sound, etc. Configuring
phonetic
punctuation requires knowledge of regular expressions.
Thanks to Kara Goldfinch for contributing
auditory icons for
some punctuation marks!
BrowserNav
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
BrowserNav is a collection of
improvements to
user experience in browsers. I added quite a few new features to
it since last
release.
Horizontal indentation using tones
You can configure BrowserNav to express
horizontal
indentation of a currently focused element using tone – similar
to a built in
NVDA feature of reporting indentation with tones in text
documents. This allows
you to better understand the layout of the page. For example, it
allows you to
hear malformed HTML tables, that is when NVDA doesn’t see a
table as a real
table, yet the elements are still aligned in a tabular fashion
on the screen.
It also greatly simplifies browsing hierarchical trees of
comments on websites
such as reddit, facebook, hacker news – now the tone would
indicate the level
of the comment.
Please note that there are also commands to
find
next/previous element with the same horizontal indentation,
which you might
find handy.
Crackling for QuickNav commands
In all my add-ons crackling is an indicator
of how far we
have just jumped in the document when some navigational
keystroke is pressed. I
implemented this feature for built-in NVDA QuickNav commands as
well. Now when
you press H for next heading, you can hear crackling, and
judging by the length
of such crackling you can quickly and intuitively figure out
whether the next heading
was close by or you just jumped over a lot of text.
Browser marks
Think of this feature as regular expression
enabled
bookmarks for browser. You can configure a single regular
expression, that can
be arbitrary largeand include all the potential bookmarks on all your
webpages, and then you
can quickly jump to next/previous browser mark using J or
Shift+J commands in
browse mode. For example, as a frequent Amazon shopper, I like
to be able to
quickly jump to things like “5 items in cart” and “your orders”.
So I have
configured my browser mark regular expression to be:
(^\d+ items? in cart$|^Your orders$)
Please note that the regular expression must
match the whole
paragraph exactly, hence be careful with ^ and $ regular
expression qualifiers.
Please also note that this regular expression will apply to all
web pages and
all browsers, so be as specific as possible.
Accessibility for semi-accessible edit boxes
Many web pages these days are using a fancy
HTML text edit
component called Monaco – it provides syntax highlighting for
sighted people,
but it has one major flaw: it is not accessible, that is the
edit box appears
empty. For example Jupyter and hacker rank use such a text
editor among others.
You can still retrieve the contents of the edit box by pressing
Control+A
Control+C and then pasting it to the editor of your choice.
However, repeating
this every time is tedious, therefore I automated this process.
Now you can navigate
to said edit box and simply press NVDA+e to view or edit it.
Tony’s enhancements
·
Github
page
·
Download
latest version
This is a hodgepodge of small improvements to
various parts of
NVDA, not logically connected in any way. All the options are
disabled by
default and need to be enabled manually in the preferences
window.
NVDA volume
Allows to adjust the volume of all the NVDA
sounds,
including beeps and speech.
Automatic language switching
Some languages use non-Latin script, e.g.
Russian, Arabic,
Chinese, etc. There is no reason why NVDA wouldn’t be able to
automatically
switch synthesizer language between English and those foreign
languages. Now I
bring this feature to live. Automatically switching between two
Latin-based
languages is not supported at this time. Please note that your
synthesizer must
support all these languages for this feature to be effective.
Enhanced table navigation commands
I added commands like
Control+Alt+Home/End/PageUp/PageDown
to jump to first or last row or column. I also added keystrokes
to jump to 1..10th
row or column, please check add-on documentation for these
shortcuts.
Enhanced move by word commands
Most text editors support
Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow
commands for word navigation. However the definition of the word
changes from
one program to another. This is especially true of modern
web-based text
editors, such as Monaco. NVDA should know the definition of word
in given
program in order to speak words correctly. If NVDA doesn't know
the exact
definition, then either words are going to be skipped, or
pronounced multiple
times. Moreover, some web-based text editors position the cursor
in the end of
the word, instead of the beginning, making editing much harder
for visually
impaired users. In order to combat this problem I have created
enhanced word
navigation commands, that take the word definition from
Notepad++ and they do
not rely on program's definition of words, but rather parse
lines into words on
NVDA's side. The Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow gesture is not
even sent to the
program, thus ensuring the consistency of the speech.
This option overrides default
Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow
commands in NVDA.
Real-time console output
If you work with command line applications
that print out a
lot of logs, it might be not the best behavior for NVDA to read
out all these
logs line by line, since NVDA can be speaking much slower than
those lines are
being printed, thus NVDA might be speaking some lines that were
printed a
minute ago. I modified the way NVDA speaks command line output
to be more
realtime. The basic logic is like this: if a new line appears on
the screen and
NVDA is currently speaking something that was shown on the
screen more than a
second ago, then we interrupt current utterance and speak the
most recent line.
Speaking output this way better represents what’s going on in
command line window
in real time. There is also an option to beep on every update in
command line.
Dynamic keystrokes
I call a keystroke dynamic if it changes the
state of an
application. Often times we’d want NVDA to speak the updated
change
automatically, but NVDA does nothing for keystrokes that it’s
not aware of. An
example of such a keystroke would be F2 in Notepad++ that jumps
to the next
bookmark – you would want NVDA to speak the current line
automatically. Many other
editors have such keystrokes as well. Now you can configure the
list of
keystrokes and NVDA will automatically speak current line after
them. Please
check github page for more information.
Suppressing unwanted “unselected” messages
If certain text is selected in a text editor,
and in the next
moment no longer selected, NVDA would say “unselected” and then
the original
text that was selected. In certain situations this is not a
desirable behavior.
For example if you have some text selected, and then you press
Control+Home, to
go to the very beginning of the document, NVDA would first speak
the first line
of the document, then “unselected”, then the original selection.
I felt this
was annoying, so I found a way to suppress this message, while
still keeping
the “unselected” message when you indeed unselect your selection
by character,
or word, etc
Preventing double insert keystroke
If you press insert key twice accidentally,
it would trigger
insert mode in your application. Since Insert is a special key
in NVDA, this
behavior cannot be disabled using input gestures dialog in NVDA,
yet this was
happening too often to me, so I wrote a function to disable
double insert key
backstroke. If you still would like to toggle insert mode, you
can do so by
pressing NVDA+F2, and then insert key.
Insert mode detector
As another layer of defense against
accidental insert mode I
implemented this feature. It monitors current line of text and
looks at how it
changes when you type alphanumeric keys. If it seems like
characters are being overwritten,
it will beep on every character. Similar to built-in caps lock
on warning beep.
Fixing a bug when focus gets stuck in the taskbar when
pressing
Windows+Numbers
There is a bug in Windows 10, and possibly in
other
versions. When switching between applications using
Windows+number shortcut
sometimes the focus gets stuck in the taskbar area instead of
jumping to the
window being switched to. So I implemented a workaround. The
add-on detects
this situation and plays a short low-pitch beep when this
situation is
detected, then the add-on fixes it automatically by bringing
focus to the desired
application.
TextNav
·
Github page
·
Audio
demo
·
Download
latest version
TextNav allows you to quickly
find the
beginning of article on a web page, and also skip over junk HTML
elements, such
as menus, images, ads, etc.
SentenceNav
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
Allows you to navigate text
sentence-by-sentence or phrase-by-phrase, as opposed to by word,
character or
line.
IndentNav
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
This add-on improves
navigation around source
code files for programming by allowing to find lines with the
same/greater/smaller
indentation level. But it also can be used for structured text
files, where
structure is expressed by the indentation level.
Bluetooth Audio
·
Github
page
·
Download
latest version
Improves sound quality for
those who use NVDA
with Bluetooth or other wireless audio devices by constantly
playing silent
sound.
AudioChart
·
Github page
·
Download
latest version
AudioChart allows you to sonify time series
in Microsoft
Excel.
Thanks for reading this! Let me know
what you think about these new features!
--Tony
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-- from mack Elizabeth, open the menu , insert n, go to prefferances, settings, look at section 5, keyboard, and make sure everything is the way you want it.
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Re: Question about NVDA reading documents or pages containing text in multiple languages
Well I just turn off auto language switching.
Its really no good doing other language speech unless you don't use espeak in anything other than english.
I am sorry but while I like the clear and robotic fast nature of espeak I don't find other languages clear at all.
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On 26/05/2020 10:21 am, Laurie Mehta via groups.io wrote: Hello, I have stumbled upon a strange thing and hope someone has some helpful advice for this problem. When I receive a document that is 99% in English with a small portion in another language NVDA reads that entire document (Word or pdf) as if it is entirely in that other language (not English.) What I mean is that NVDA is pronouncing the words as if in that other language and even going over a word character by character, NVDA spells in that other language's alphabet. This has happened before and for short documents copying into notepad yields an entirely readable text. A notepad file is less practical for a long document, though, and I think that NVDA ought to be able to read a document in a language even if it has a line or two in a second language.
For example, I recently downloaded a document that is in English with only a line or so in Italian from a Vatican website. Saved in either Word or as pdf, the whole document reads as if NVDA is trying to read it in Italian-- even using the Italian alphabet when I move character by character. If I copy and paste the document into notepad, it reads in English with no problem.
I think that I must have some setting set in NVDA which is causing this issue but I don't know where to look for setting things right. It seems that NVDA is recognizing some trigger to adjust to a particular language for reading, but I don't know how or where to find that trigger to possibly remove it. Obviously I could just make a very long txt file for the document to read it, but if I can retain the headings and other formatting of the almost 200 page original I would prefer that.
Do any of you have some helpful advice for this issue? Thanks!
Laurie M.
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Re: Tony's addons - updates
CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
Hello. Thanks, Toni! Your addons are very good. Regards. Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 Hello NVDA community, I have implemented a lot of new features in my add-ons since my last announcement here more than a year ago, so I would like to share all these new features – hopefully you guys will find some of them useful. I present my new add-ons: Phonetic punctuation and Tony’s enhancements, as well as I added many new features to BrowserNav. In the end of this email I also mention my other add-ons, just in case someone hasn’t heard of them, they have only been updated with bugfixes. This is a pretty long email, so I structured it with headings. Please download latest versions of my add-ons directly from their respective github pages – the links are provided in this email. Phonetic punctuation· Github page · Short audio demo · Download latest version This add-on allows you to substitute punctuation marks, and any other part of speech configured by a regular expression with an auditory icon (custom sound). Most common use of phonetic punctuation would be for writing code, where it is essential to know all the punctuation marks, but other uses can include: replacing the word “blank” with a sound, replacing timestamps or other frequently repeated text with a sound, etc. Configuring phonetic punctuation requires knowledge of regular expressions. Thanks to Kara Goldfinch for contributing auditory icons for some punctuation marks! BrowserNav· Github page · Download latest version BrowserNav is a collection of improvements to user experience in browsers. I added quite a few new features to it since last release. Horizontal indentation using tonesYou can configure BrowserNav to express horizontal indentation of a currently focused element using tone – similar to a built in NVDA feature of reporting indentation with tones in text documents. This allows you to better understand the layout of the page. For example, it allows you to hear malformed HTML tables, that is when NVDA doesn’t see a table as a real table, yet the elements are still aligned in a tabular fashion on the screen. It also greatly simplifies browsing hierarchical trees of comments on websites such as reddit, facebook, hacker news – now the tone would indicate the level of the comment. Please note that there are also commands to find next/previous element with the same horizontal indentation, which you might find handy. Crackling for QuickNav commandsIn all my add-ons crackling is an indicator of how far we have just jumped in the document when some navigational keystroke is pressed. I implemented this feature for built-in NVDA QuickNav commands as well. Now when you press H for next heading, you can hear crackling, and judging by the length of such crackling you can quickly and intuitively figure out whether the next heading was close by or you just jumped over a lot of text. Browser marksThink of this feature as regular expression enabled bookmarks for browser. You can configure a single regular expression, that can be arbitrary largeand include all the potential bookmarks on all your webpages, and then you can quickly jump to next/previous browser mark using J or Shift+J commands in browse mode. For example, as a frequent Amazon shopper, I like to be able to quickly jump to things like “5 items in cart” and “your orders”. So I have configured my browser mark regular expression to be: (^\d+ items? in cart$|^Your orders$) Please note that the regular expression must match the whole paragraph exactly, hence be careful with ^ and $ regular expression qualifiers. Please also note that this regular expression will apply to all web pages and all browsers, so be as specific as possible. Accessibility for semi-accessible edit boxesMany web pages these days are using a fancy HTML text edit component called Monaco – it provides syntax highlighting for sighted people, but it has one major flaw: it is not accessible, that is the edit box appears empty. For example Jupyter and hacker rank use such a text editor among others. You can still retrieve the contents of the edit box by pressing Control+A Control+C and then pasting it to the editor of your choice. However, repeating this every time is tedious, therefore I automated this process. Now you can navigate to said edit box and simply press NVDA+e to view or edit it. Tony’s enhancements· Github page · Download latest version This is a hodgepodge of small improvements to various parts of NVDA, not logically connected in any way. All the options are disabled by default and need to be enabled manually in the preferences window. NVDA volumeAllows to adjust the volume of all the NVDA sounds, including beeps and speech. Automatic language switchingSome languages use non-Latin script, e.g. Russian, Arabic, Chinese, etc. There is no reason why NVDA wouldn’t be able to automatically switch synthesizer language between English and those foreign languages. Now I bring this feature to live. Automatically switching between two Latin-based languages is not supported at this time. Please note that your synthesizer must support all these languages for this feature to be effective. Enhanced table navigation commandsI added commands like Control+Alt+Home/End/PageUp/PageDown to jump to first or last row or column. I also added keystrokes to jump to 1..10th row or column, please check add-on documentation for these shortcuts. Enhanced move by word commandsMost text editors support Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow commands for word navigation. However the definition of the word changes from one program to another. This is especially true of modern web-based text editors, such as Monaco. NVDA should know the definition of word in given program in order to speak words correctly. If NVDA doesn't know the exact definition, then either words are going to be skipped, or pronounced multiple times. Moreover, some web-based text editors position the cursor in the end of the word, instead of the beginning, making editing much harder for visually impaired users. In order to combat this problem I have created enhanced word navigation commands, that take the word definition from Notepad++ and they do not rely on program's definition of words, but rather parse lines into words on NVDA's side. The Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow gesture is not even sent to the program, thus ensuring the consistency of the speech. This option overrides default Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow commands in NVDA. Real-time console outputIf you work with command line applications that print out a lot of logs, it might be not the best behavior for NVDA to read out all these logs line by line, since NVDA can be speaking much slower than those lines are being printed, thus NVDA might be speaking some lines that were printed a minute ago. I modified the way NVDA speaks command line output to be more realtime. The basic logic is like this: if a new line appears on the screen and NVDA is currently speaking something that was shown on the screen more than a second ago, then we interrupt current utterance and speak the most recent line. Speaking output this way better represents what’s going on in command line window in real time. There is also an option to beep on every update in command line. Dynamic keystrokesI call a keystroke dynamic if it changes the state of an application. Often times we’d want NVDA to speak the updated change automatically, but NVDA does nothing for keystrokes that it’s not aware of. An example of such a keystroke would be F2 in Notepad++ that jumps to the next bookmark – you would want NVDA to speak the current line automatically. Many other editors have such keystrokes as well. Now you can configure the list of keystrokes and NVDA will automatically speak current line after them. Please check github page for more information. Suppressing unwanted “unselected” messagesIf certain text is selected in a text editor, and in the next moment no longer selected, NVDA would say “unselected” and then the original text that was selected. In certain situations this is not a desirable behavior. For example if you have some text selected, and then you press Control+Home, to go to the very beginning of the document, NVDA would first speak the first line of the document, then “unselected”, then the original selection. I felt this was annoying, so I found a way to suppress this message, while still keeping the “unselected” message when you indeed unselect your selection by character, or word, etc Preventing double insert keystrokeIf you press insert key twice accidentally, it would trigger insert mode in your application. Since Insert is a special key in NVDA, this behavior cannot be disabled using input gestures dialog in NVDA, yet this was happening too often to me, so I wrote a function to disable double insert key backstroke. If you still would like to toggle insert mode, you can do so by pressing NVDA+F2, and then insert key. Insert mode detectorAs another layer of defense against accidental insert mode I implemented this feature. It monitors current line of text and looks at how it changes when you type alphanumeric keys. If it seems like characters are being overwritten, it will beep on every character. Similar to built-in caps lock on warning beep. Fixing a bug when focus gets stuck in the taskbar when pressing Windows+NumbersThere is a bug in Windows 10, and possibly in other versions. When switching between applications using Windows+number shortcut sometimes the focus gets stuck in the taskbar area instead of jumping to the window being switched to. So I implemented a workaround. The add-on detects this situation and plays a short low-pitch beep when this situation is detected, then the add-on fixes it automatically by bringing focus to the desired application. TextNav· Github page · Audio demo · Download latest version TextNav allows you to quickly find the beginning of article on a web page, and also skip over junk HTML elements, such as menus, images, ads, etc. SentenceNav· Github page · Download latest version Allows you to navigate text sentence-by-sentence or phrase-by-phrase, as opposed to by word, character or line. IndentNav· Github page · Download latest version This add-on improves navigation around source code files for programming by allowing to find lines with the same/greater/smaller indentation level. But it also can be used for structured text files, where structure is expressed by the indentation level. Bluetooth Audio· Github page · Download latest version Improves sound quality for those who use NVDA with Bluetooth or other wireless audio devices by constantly playing silent sound. AudioChart· Github page · Download latest version AudioChart allows you to sonify time series in Microsoft Excel. Thanks for reading this! Let me know what you think about these new features! --Tony
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Re: New with NVDA need help
Actually, it did not work. I need to turn it off and the NVDA q is not working.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brice Mijares via groups.io Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 3:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] New with NVDA need help NVDA key q. On 5/25/2020 2:58 PM, Mard, Elizabeth@DDS wrote: Hello,
I am in the process of creating accessible documents and was given the NVDA application to test document accessibility. I have been using it on my lap top at work with great success, but due to C-19 I am using it at home on my HP tablet and I cannot figure out how to get it to quit. The instructional guide book does not offer guidance regarding a tablet or at least I could not find it. Can anyone assist me with this?
Thank you,
Elizabeth Mård, MS Community Program Specialist II
Department of Developmental Services
Community Services Division
Work Services Section
1600 9th Street, Room 340, MS 3-13 Sacramento, CA 95814 *(916) 651-3229*
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Re: New with NVDA need help
Thank you!
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brice Mijares via groups.io Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 3:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] New with NVDA need help NVDA key q. On 5/25/2020 2:58 PM, Mard, Elizabeth@DDS wrote: Hello,
I am in the process of creating accessible documents and was given the NVDA application to test document accessibility. I have been using it on my lap top at work with great success, but due to C-19 I am using it at home on my HP tablet and I cannot figure out how to get it to quit. The instructional guide book does not offer guidance regarding a tablet or at least I could not find it. Can anyone assist me with this?
Thank you,
Elizabeth Mård, MS Community Program Specialist II
Department of Developmental Services
Community Services Division
Work Services Section
1600 9th Street, Room 340, MS 3-13 Sacramento, CA 95814 *(916) 651-3229*
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