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Re: Accessible scanner drivers

Tony Malykh
 

Will hp easystart,  allow me to use fancy features, like scanning directly to Dropbox? I know this printer supports this feature, but now I'm not sure whether I'd be able to use it...

On 5/27/2020 11:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmmm hp smart is not in any shape or form accessible.

You should go through all the sections, you need to install something called hp easystart, this may or may not work even gets you to set your eservice account.

Now if you don't feel comfortable with that, there is probably a version of your driver in the utilities section though easystart will know what that usually is as there can be multiple versions.

Easystart is still got a few access issues but at least you should be able to read the screens.

In general for hp devices you will need the basic drivers package, and the full driver utility package, and if it comes with ocr software packages depending what that is I'd get that to.

After you get into the websetup on the networked printer, you can do that by finding your unit in network rightclicking with appkey, and selecting view webpage, you can go to tools or settings and maybe admin, and click firmware update or click status and firmware update or search for firmware update,

hitting that and the update button will cause hp to dial home and update, setting this to automatic will usually get updates, though every so often I like to double check to make sure its done as sometimes it will ask you to confirm that the update is installed and ready.



On 28/05/2020 3:52 am, Tony Malykh wrote:
After reading all the replies, I decided to try HP - I bought printer+scanner HP 8035 - one of the top models on Amazon. They offer to install this tool called HP Smart to configure your device. Unfortunately this tool seems to be not accessible - I tried with NVDA and Jaws. Most buttons are not marked, most list elements cannot be read by either screenreader. It seems like the state of accessibility hasn't changed much since 5 years ago. Now I'd have to ask someone sighted to configure it. Maybe in the end I should've tried Canon - more people have recommended it, but in the last moment I changed my mind and switched to HP because customer ratings for Canon products were low on Amazon....


On 5/21/2020 7:38 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony


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Re: Accessible scanner drivers

 

Well you will need sighted assistance to configure the wifi on your hp printer first then you can access it via your computer.

On 28/05/2020 7:05 am, Howard Traxler wrote:
My WiFi is my LAN.  One in the same.

On 5/27/2020 1:50 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I have had no issues with hp printer connecting to wifi though to be honest if you can get a printer that can connect to wifi and lan and can put it in a central area, connecting direct to lan is probably the easiest accessibility wize for a blind user.



On 28/05/2020 3:58 am, Louis Maher wrote:
Hello,

I had a great deal of trouble trying to find an HP printer that could reliably connect to Wi-Fi.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers

After reading all the replies, I decided to try HP - I bought
printer+scanner HP 8035 - one of the top models on Amazon. They offer to
install this tool called HP Smart to configure your device.
Unfortunately this tool seems to be not accessible - I tried with NVDA and Jaws. Most buttons are not marked, most list elements cannot be read by either screenreader. It seems like the state of accessibility hasn't changed much since 5 years ago. Now I'd have to ask someone sighted to configure it. Maybe in the end I should've tried Canon - more people have recommended it, but in the last moment I changed my mind and switched to HP because customer ratings for Canon products were low on Amazon....


On 5/21/2020 7:38 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However
I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not
very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or
scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony






Re: New with NVDA need help

Luke Davis
 

Do you need to just turn it off in the current session?
If insert+q, or capslock+q, or numpad insert+q (insert is the numpad zero key with numlock off) isn't working for you, you can:

Press insert+n, which opens the NVDA menu. Then move up once, and you should be on exit. Select that option.

If you can't get to the NVDA menu, selecting the NVDA item in the notifications area of the system tray, should get you the menu.

You can also kill NVDA in task switcher, like any other program.

If you are trying to keep NVDA from starting, you can, with NVDA running, press NVDA+n (NVDA key in that context is one of the insert keys I mentioned above), go to preferences, then to settings, then to general, and un-check the box for automatically start NVDA on login.
Do check the box for save settings on exit, if it isn't already, then press OK.
Then restart Windows, if you can't otherwise stop NVDA.

And, while there's nothing wrong with asking if you have trouble, all of this is in the NVDA manual that comes with the program.

Luke

On Mon, 25 May 2020, Mard, Elizabeth@DDS wrote:

Actually, it did not work. I need to turn it off and the NVDA q is not working.


Re: Accessible scanner drivers

Howard Traxler
 

My WiFi is my LAN.  One in the same.

On 5/27/2020 1:50 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I have had no issues with hp printer connecting to wifi though to be honest if you can get a printer that can connect to wifi and lan and can put it in a central area, connecting direct to lan is probably the easiest accessibility wize for a blind user.



On 28/05/2020 3:58 am, Louis Maher wrote:
Hello,

I had a great deal of trouble trying to find an HP printer that could reliably connect to Wi-Fi.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers

After reading all the replies, I decided to try HP - I bought
printer+scanner HP 8035 - one of the top models on Amazon. They offer to
install this tool called HP Smart to configure your device.
Unfortunately this tool seems to be not accessible - I tried with NVDA and Jaws. Most buttons are not marked, most list elements cannot be read by either screenreader. It seems like the state of accessibility hasn't changed much since 5 years ago. Now I'd have to ask someone sighted to configure it. Maybe in the end I should've tried Canon - more people have recommended it, but in the last moment I changed my mind and switched to HP because customer ratings for Canon products were low on Amazon....


On 5/21/2020 7:38 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However
I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not
very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or
scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony




Re: Accessible scanner drivers

 

I have had no issues with hp printer connecting to wifi though to be honest if you can get a printer that can connect to wifi and lan and can put it in a central area, connecting direct to lan is probably the easiest accessibility wize for a blind user.

On 28/05/2020 3:58 am, Louis Maher wrote:
Hello,

I had a great deal of trouble trying to find an HP printer that could reliably connect to Wi-Fi.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers

After reading all the replies, I decided to try HP - I bought
printer+scanner HP 8035 - one of the top models on Amazon. They offer to
install this tool called HP Smart to configure your device.
Unfortunately this tool seems to be not accessible - I tried with NVDA and Jaws. Most buttons are not marked, most list elements cannot be read by either screenreader. It seems like the state of accessibility hasn't changed much since 5 years ago. Now I'd have to ask someone sighted to configure it. Maybe in the end I should've tried Canon - more people have recommended it, but in the last moment I changed my mind and switched to HP because customer ratings for Canon products were low on Amazon....


On 5/21/2020 7:38 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However
I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not
very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or
scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony



Re: Accessible scanner drivers

 

Hmmm hp smart is not in any shape or form accessible.

You should go through all the sections, you need to install something called hp easystart, this may or may not work even gets you to set your eservice account.

Now if you don't feel comfortable with that, there is probably a version of your driver in the utilities section though easystart will know what that usually is as there can be multiple versions.

Easystart is still got a few access issues but at least you should be able to read the screens.

In general for hp devices you will need the basic drivers package, and the full driver utility package, and if it comes with ocr software packages depending what that is I'd get that to.

After you get into the websetup on the networked printer, you can do that by finding your unit in network rightclicking with appkey, and selecting view webpage, you can go to tools or settings and maybe admin, and click firmware update or click status and firmware update or search for firmware update,

hitting that and the update button will cause hp to dial home and update, setting this to automatic will usually get updates, though every so often I like to double check to make sure its done as sometimes it will ask you to confirm that the update is installed and ready.

On 28/05/2020 3:52 am, Tony Malykh wrote:
After reading all the replies, I decided to try HP - I bought printer+scanner HP 8035 - one of the top models on Amazon. They offer to install this tool called HP Smart to configure your device. Unfortunately this tool seems to be not accessible - I tried with NVDA and Jaws. Most buttons are not marked, most list elements cannot be read by either screenreader. It seems like the state of accessibility hasn't changed much since 5 years ago. Now I'd have to ask someone sighted to configure it. Maybe in the end I should've tried Canon - more people have recommended it, but in the last moment I changed my mind and switched to HP because customer ratings for Canon products were low on Amazon....


On 5/21/2020 7:38 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony

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Re: Cursor Announcement

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

Thanks for this explanation and to Brian also.  You inadvertently solved the problem of why I always got bumped  out of an area when I wanted to do more things. I don’t know what I would do if it weren’t for these tech lists.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cursor Announcement

 

This is a long explanation, but, as you will see, knowing what I am going to say will help you work in certain kinds of dialogs more efficiently.  And if you don't know how to move through these dialogs, knowing what I will describe will help you look around unfamiliar programs, which is a valuable skill.

 

You hear over and over that you should press apply, then ok. in dialogs where both are present for any time you change something.  That is a minor misconception, but it is perhaps the most widespread one I've seen regarding Windows use.  This widespread belief also shows how people don't use logic in figuring out computer operations.  Why are both available if the first is simply redundant?  This question arises, or it should,  when you hear this constant misconception stated. 

 

It does no harm to do this when there is no need, but apply usually doesn't have to be pressed if you make a change and then you want to leave the dialog and save the change.

 

In a multipage dialog, where one of the items is a sort of bar you move through with the arrow keys, where you might hear things like general, options, advanced and where every item you move to changes what you see in the dialog to let you work with those settings, you can make changes in one part of the dialog, general, for example, then press apply to save them, stay in the dialog, move to advanced, for example, make changes, and if you are finished, press ok to save and leave the dialog in one step.

 

Control tab and control shift tab may also move you from one part of such a dialog to another and at times, using both control tab will move you and using the right and left arrow keys will move you, at times you can only move using control tab and shift control tab, in other dialogs, only the left and right arrow will move you.  it depends on how the dialog is constructed.

 

The NVDA settings dialog is that kind of dialog.  But instead of the left and right arrow, you use the up and down arrows to move through categories. 

Open the NVDA menu, control n, then open preferences.  In preferences, open settings.

You are now in a dialog where you can move to categories and then tab through the dialog and make changes in that category.  if you use the apply button, you are taken to the categories list again and the settings have been saved while you remain in the dialog, ready to make other changes in other categories.  Wen you make the last change you want to make anywhere in the dialog, if you use ok, your last settings or setting whatever you did in the category you just worked in, will be saved and the dialog will close.  All your previous settings were already saved.  It’s a convenience feature to allow you to make as many changes as you like in a category, apply them, make changes in a new category, apply them, etc. without having to use ok, leave the dialog every time you want to save changes and work in a new category.

 

Also, if you use apply, cancel won't revert what you changed.  Apply is just that, apply, it does what ok does but it doesn't close the dialogue.  So when you make changes, don't use apply unless you are sure, just as you wouldn't use ok unless you are sure.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Cursor Announcement

 

Well Gene, so far so good.  I haven’t heard it since I followed your directions.  Can you tell me what the difference is between pressing the OK and the apply one?

 

Thanks so much.

Maarilyn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Curser

 

It's probably report mouse shape changes setting.

Open mouse settings, control NVDA m, Then read the current line.  I think you are on the setting to turn this on and off.  if it is checked, uncheck it with the space bar.

Tab to and activate the o.k. button.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:50 PM

Subject: [nvda] Curser

 

I don’t know what caused this but today my computer has started saying “edit curser”, app star curser and normal curser.  However it got there, How do I get it to stop?  Marilyn

Windows 10, N V D A and Outlook 2019


Re: Accessible scanner drivers

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:52 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
I bought printer+scanner HP 8035
Which, if purchased through Amazon, should be a cinch to return should you so choose.   One of the things I've loved about Amazon and technology is how easy making returns on same, no questions asked, generally is.

HP should also be "complained at" about this situation.   If you choose to keep the device I would be calling their technical support and insisting they remote in to set things up, and tell them that, had they made the setup software accessible, there'd be no need for their involvement.  A company of the size and scope of HP has no excuses whatsoever for producing inaccessible software at this point in history.  It's not rocket science, and virtually all the majors have been doing so for a while now. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: zoom not reading in edit areas

Jonathan Milam
 

I've seen the same thing too!!

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] zoom not reading in edit areas

Hi all.

This may well be a ticketed item, but I thought before I waste the devs time
with this that I put it here.

A couple days ago I was involved in a zoom meating.

They heavily used the text boxes for q&a, the chat boxes, and the like.

Nvda would read letters as I typed them in but if I hit backspace it
wouldn't read the letters I was deleting, I also couldn't read anything in
any edit field though I could read all output data just fine just input form
data in input boxes.

Its the only thing I couldn't do.

Shaun


Re: Accessible scanner drivers

Louis Maher
 

Hello,

I had a great deal of trouble trying to find an HP printer that could reliably connect to Wi-Fi.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible scanner drivers

After reading all the replies, I decided to try HP - I bought
printer+scanner HP 8035 - one of the top models on Amazon. They offer to
install this tool called HP Smart to configure your device.
Unfortunately this tool seems to be not accessible - I tried with NVDA and Jaws. Most buttons are not marked, most list elements cannot be read by either screenreader. It seems like the state of accessibility hasn't changed much since 5 years ago. Now I'd have to ask someone sighted to configure it. Maybe in the end I should've tried Canon - more people have recommended it, but in the last moment I changed my mind and switched to HP because customer ratings for Canon products were low on Amazon....


On 5/21/2020 7:38 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However
I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not
very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or
scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony


Re: Accessible scanner drivers

Tony Malykh
 

After reading all the replies, I decided to try HP - I bought printer+scanner HP 8035 - one of the top models on Amazon. They offer to install this tool called HP Smart to configure your device. Unfortunately this tool seems to be not accessible - I tried with NVDA and Jaws. Most buttons are not marked, most list elements cannot be read by either screenreader. It seems like the state of accessibility hasn't changed much since 5 years ago. Now I'd have to ask someone sighted to configure it. Maybe in the end I should've tried Canon - more people have recommended it, but in the last moment I changed my mind and switched to HP because customer ratings for Canon products were low on Amazon....

On 5/21/2020 7:38 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However I've heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not very accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or scanner+printer) comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony


Re: Tony's addons - updates

Cordelia Scharpf
 

OK, thanks for clarifying.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 5:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tony's addons - updates

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:53 AM, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:

Pardon me, but the link leads to the Add-Ons Documentation add-on compatible with NVDA 2019

Which is also compatible with 2020, I believe.   If it's on the official add-ons page, and that's where this comes from, I presume it's compatible with whatever the current version of NVDA might be.  There has been no tectonic shift in NVDA code between 2019 and 2020.  The same cannot be said of the shift between all NVDA versions prior to 2019 and 2019 itself.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Tony's addons - updates

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:53 AM, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:
Pardon me, but the link leads to the Add-Ons Documentation add-on compatible with NVDA 2019
Which is also compatible with 2020, I believe.   If it's on the official add-ons page, and that's where this comes from, I presume it's compatible with whatever the current version of NVDA might be.  There has been no tectonic shift in NVDA code between 2019 and 2020.  The same cannot be said of the shift between all NVDA versions prior to 2019 and 2019 itself.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Tony's addons - updates

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Pardon me, but the link leads to the Add-Ons Documentation add-on compatible with NVDA 2019. Therefore, as Brian pointed out, follow the alternative route to obtain documentations and commands of each add-on installed on your PC.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tony's addons - updates

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 06:21 AM, William Wong wrote:

for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and Japanese, how should I correct the map?

I don't use this specific add-on, but Tony and many add-on developers have been producing documentation for these add-ons that covers this sort of thing.

If you don't have the
Add-Ons Documentation Add-on you may want to consider installing it.  You can also get to the documentation for the add-ons you have installed via NVDA itself in the Add-Ons Manager, Tools dialog.

What you're asking may very well already be discussed in the detailed documentation.  Even if it isn't, the fact that detailed documentation exists for many add-ons, and can come in quite handy, needs to be known. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Tony's addons - updates

Tony Malykh
 

Language map can be edited in preferences. Do Chinese and Japanese use the same Unicode character set or different ones? If they use the same set, autmatic switching won't be possible.

On 5/27/2020 3:21 AM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the list of addons.

Regarding "tonysEnhancements"

how to edit Edit language map

for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and Japanese, how should I correct the map?

Thanks.





Re: Tony's addons - updates

Tony Malykh
 

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by not ready to be translated. All the strings are processed with _() function. If I am missing anything - feel free to send me a pull request.

On 5/26/2020 7:17 AM, Ângelo Abrantes wrote:

Hi,


The problem is that the "tonysEnhancements" add-on is not prepared to be translated, and so, I can't translate it to portuguese! .

Thank you very much.

Às 15:11 de 26-05-2020, Tony Malykh escreveu:

It can be added to the translation system, or I can accept a pull request with translations. I've heard that as of yet translation system doesn't accept new add-ons to be added, isn't this the case?

--Tony


On 5/26/2020 4:28 AM, Ângelo Abrantes wrote:

HI,


Your work is interesting.
and what about the translations?
the "tonysEnhancements" add-on is not ready to be translated. What do you intend to do about it?

Thanks
Ângelo Abrantes

Às 22:17 de 25-05-2020, Tony Malykh escreveu:

Hello NVDA community,

I have implemented a lot of new features in my add-ons since my last announcement here more than a year ago, so I would like to share all these new features – hopefully you guys will find some of them useful. I present my new add-ons: Phonetic punctuation and Tony’s enhancements, as well as I added many new features to BrowserNav. In the end of this email I also mention my other add-ons, just in case someone hasn’t heard of them, they have only been updated with bugfixes. This is a pretty long email, so I structured it with headings.

Please download latest versions of my add-ons directly from their respective github pages – the links are provided in this email.

Phonetic punctuation

·       Github page  

·       Short audio demo  

·       Download latest version

This add-on allows you to substitute punctuation marks, and any other part of speech configured by a regular expression with an auditory icon (custom sound). Most common use of phonetic punctuation would be for writing code, where it is essential to know all the punctuation marks, but other uses can include: replacing the word “blank” with a sound, replacing timestamps or other frequently repeated text with a sound, etc. Configuring phonetic punctuation requires knowledge of regular expressions.

Thanks to Kara Goldfinch for contributing auditory icons for some punctuation marks!

BrowserNav

·       Github page

·       Download latest version

BrowserNav is a collection of improvements to user experience in browsers. I added quite a few new features to it since last release.

Horizontal indentation using tones

You can configure BrowserNav to express horizontal indentation of a currently focused element using tone – similar to a built in NVDA feature of reporting indentation with tones in text documents. This allows you to better understand the layout of the page. For example, it allows you to hear malformed HTML tables, that is when NVDA doesn’t see a table as a real table, yet the elements are still aligned in a tabular fashion on the screen. It also greatly simplifies browsing hierarchical trees of comments on websites such as reddit, facebook, hacker news – now the tone would indicate the level of the comment.

Please note that there are also commands to find next/previous element with the same horizontal indentation, which you might find handy.

Crackling for QuickNav commands

In all my add-ons crackling is an indicator of how far we have just jumped in the document when some navigational keystroke is pressed. I implemented this feature for built-in NVDA QuickNav commands as well. Now when you press H for next heading, you can hear crackling, and judging by the length of such crackling you can quickly and intuitively figure out whether the next heading was close by or you just jumped over a lot of text.

Browser marks

Think of this feature as regular expression enabled bookmarks for browser. You can configure a single regular expression, that can be arbitrary largeand include all the potential   bookmarks on all your webpages, and then you can quickly jump to next/previous browser mark using J or Shift+J commands in browse mode. For example, as a frequent Amazon shopper, I like to be able to quickly jump to things like “5 items in cart” and “your orders”. So I have configured my browser mark regular expression to be:

(^\d+ items? in cart$|^Your orders$)

Please note that the regular expression must match the whole paragraph exactly, hence be careful with ^ and $ regular expression qualifiers. Please also note that this regular expression will apply to all web pages and all browsers, so be as specific as possible.

Accessibility for semi-accessible edit boxes

Many web pages these days are using a fancy HTML text edit component called Monaco – it provides syntax highlighting for sighted people, but it has one major flaw: it is not accessible, that is the edit box appears empty. For example Jupyter and hacker rank use such a text editor among others. You can still retrieve the contents of the edit box by pressing Control+A Control+C and then pasting it to the editor of your choice. However, repeating this every time is tedious, therefore I automated this process. Now you can navigate to said edit box and simply press NVDA+e to view or edit it.

Tony’s enhancements

·       Github page

·       Download latest version

This is a hodgepodge of small improvements to various parts of NVDA, not logically connected in any way. All the options are disabled by default and need to be enabled manually in the preferences window.

NVDA volume

Allows to adjust the volume of all the NVDA sounds, including beeps and speech.

Automatic language switching

Some languages use non-Latin script, e.g. Russian, Arabic, Chinese, etc. There is no reason why NVDA wouldn’t be able to automatically switch synthesizer language between English and those foreign languages. Now I bring this feature to live. Automatically switching between two Latin-based languages is not supported at this time. Please note that your synthesizer must support all these languages for this feature to be effective.

Enhanced table navigation commands

I added commands like Control+Alt+Home/End/PageUp/PageDown to jump to first or last row or column. I also added keystrokes to jump to 1..10th row or column, please check add-on documentation for these shortcuts.

Enhanced move by word commands

Most text editors support Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow commands for word navigation. However the definition of the word changes from one program to another. This is especially true of modern web-based text editors, such as Monaco. NVDA should know the definition of word in given program in order to speak words correctly. If NVDA doesn't know the exact definition, then either words are going to be skipped, or pronounced multiple times. Moreover, some web-based text editors position the cursor in the end of the word, instead of the beginning, making editing much harder for visually impaired users. In order to combat this problem I have created enhanced word navigation commands, that take the word definition from Notepad++ and they do not rely on program's definition of words, but rather parse lines into words on NVDA's side. The Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow gesture is not even sent to the program, thus ensuring the consistency of the speech.

This option overrides default Control+LeftArrow/RightArrow commands in NVDA.

Real-time console output

If you work with command line applications that print out a lot of logs, it might be not the best behavior for NVDA to read out all these logs line by line, since NVDA can be speaking much slower than those lines are being printed, thus NVDA might be speaking some lines that were printed a minute ago. I modified the way NVDA speaks command line output to be more realtime. The basic logic is like this: if a new line appears on the screen and NVDA is currently speaking something that was shown on the screen more than a second ago, then we interrupt current utterance and speak the most recent line. Speaking output this way better represents what’s going on in command line window in real time. There is also an option to beep on every update in command line.

Dynamic keystrokes

I call a keystroke dynamic if it changes the state of an application. Often times we’d want NVDA to speak the updated change automatically, but NVDA does nothing for keystrokes that it’s not aware of. An example of such a keystroke would be F2 in Notepad++ that jumps to the next bookmark – you would want NVDA to speak the current line automatically. Many other editors have such keystrokes as well. Now you can configure the list of keystrokes and NVDA will automatically speak current line after them. Please check github page for more information.

Suppressing unwanted “unselected” messages

If certain text is selected in a text editor, and in the next moment no longer selected, NVDA would say “unselected” and then the original text that was selected. In certain situations this is not a desirable behavior. For example if you have some text selected, and then you press Control+Home, to go to the very beginning of the document, NVDA would first speak the first line of the document, then “unselected”, then the original selection. I felt this was annoying, so I found a way to suppress this message, while still keeping the “unselected” message when you indeed unselect your selection by character, or word, etc

Preventing double insert keystroke

If you press insert key twice accidentally, it would trigger insert mode in your application. Since Insert is a special key in NVDA, this behavior cannot be disabled using input gestures dialog in NVDA, yet this was happening too often to me, so I wrote a function to disable double insert key backstroke. If you still would like to toggle insert mode, you can do so by pressing NVDA+F2, and then insert key.

Insert mode detector

As another layer of defense against accidental insert mode I implemented this feature. It monitors current line of text and looks at how it changes when you type alphanumeric keys. If it seems like characters are being overwritten, it will beep on every character. Similar to built-in caps lock on warning beep.

Fixing a bug when focus gets stuck in the taskbar when pressing Windows+Numbers

There is a bug in Windows 10, and possibly in other versions. When switching between applications using Windows+number shortcut sometimes the focus gets stuck in the taskbar area instead of jumping to the window being switched to. So I implemented a workaround. The add-on detects this situation and plays a short low-pitch beep when this situation is detected, then the add-on fixes it automatically by bringing focus to the desired application.

TextNav

·       Github page

·       Audio demo

·       Download latest version

TextNav allows you to quickly find the beginning of article on a web page, and also skip over junk HTML elements, such as menus, images, ads, etc.

SentenceNav

·       Github page

·       Download latest version

Allows you to navigate text sentence-by-sentence or phrase-by-phrase, as opposed to by word, character or line.

IndentNav

·       Github page

·       Download latest version

This add-on improves navigation around source code files for programming by allowing to find lines with the same/greater/smaller indentation level. But it also can be used for structured text files, where structure is expressed by the indentation level.

Bluetooth Audio

·       Github page

·       Download latest version

Improves sound quality for those who use NVDA with Bluetooth or other wireless audio devices by constantly playing silent sound.

AudioChart

·       Github page

·       Download latest version

AudioChart allows you to sonify time series in Microsoft Excel.

 

Thanks for reading this! Let me know what you think about these new features!

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Re: Tony's addons - updates

 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 06:21 AM, William Wong wrote:
for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and Japanese, how should I correct the map?

I don't use this specific add-on, but Tony and many add-on developers have been producing documentation for these add-ons that covers this sort of thing.

If you don't have the Add-Ons Documentation Add-on you may want to consider installing it.  You can also get to the documentation for the add-ons you have installed via NVDA itself in the Add-Ons Manager, Tools dialog.

What you're asking may very well already be discussed in the detailed documentation.  Even if it isn't, the fact that detailed documentation exists for many add-ons, and can come in quite handy, needs to be known. 
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Re: Getting a list of specific gestures

 

I don't know of any way to do this, if by "do this" you mean produce a list.

You can use the NVDA's Input Help Mode toggle, NVDA+1, and then go through the set of key sequences you want, and the function (if any, some combinations may be unassigned) will be announced to you as you press them until you toggle Input Help Mode off again.
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Getting a list of specific gestures

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

I want to see what gestures contain a specific key on the keyboard. For example, how do I check to see what gestures are currently bound to the numpad1 key? This should include all of the modifiers like shift, control, alt, etc. Does anyone know how to do this?

 

 

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Re: ESET Antivirus accessibility

Iván Novegil
 

Thank you all. I've got back to the user to let him know about the issue #6016 and subscribed to it to get notified on updates.


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O 27/05/2020 á(s) 2:37, Quentin Christensen escribiu:

We have an open issue for accessibility of ESET.  Evidently ESET are aware and are working on it.  I must admit, I simply use Windows 10's built-in defender and that is what I generally recommend.  Hopefully we will have a positive update from ESET in the near term though.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:09 PM Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil=nvda.es@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all.


A Spanish-speaking user has just contacted us via Twitter to ask about Eset antivirus's accessibility with NVDA. He says that it works fine both with JAWS and Narrator, but despite being listed as supported on Eset's website with NVDA he's finding many issues (no more details about them).

what is you experience with this?


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