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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Tyler Spivey
 

It does, and the key reference seems to match. Last step, hopefully.
Install this addon:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnwa9gpn79g0yrg/modifier-0.1.nvda-addon?dl=1

After that, your new modifier should work.

Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

Hello,

Thanks! It says the number 226 two times. Does this make sense?

Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Tyler Spivey
 

Let's do this a different way, then. Install this addon:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjmpsvguwogqmo8/keyTest-0.1.nvda-addon?dl=1

That will add a Key test item to the NVDA Tools menu. Activate it, then
hit that key a few times and see what it says. Your keyboard will return
to normal 15 seconds later.

Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

Hello and thanks so much for your help!

I have played around quite a bit with SharpKeys, but no luck.

It would be just quite fine even if I could never use that key when typing. I can't see a situation where I really would need to type < or > characters very often, so if it's possible to have a way NVDA thinking that it's my modifier key, that's just fine.

I'm sorry, but I think I do not really understand what I need to do in the Python Console. I'm really not into programmin so I might just miss something obvious. The only thing that happens when I press the key after pasting in the lines is that  < characters comes into the text field of the python Console.

Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Tyler Spivey
 

Yes, assuming your keyboard doesn't have the same problem with it.

You have two options here:
1. Remap with SharpKeys. You then can't use that key for anything except
a modifier. Since it's your < key, you might not want that. Besides
that, I tried getting the press key feature to work, and couldn't, and I
don't know where it is in the list.
2. I can just write an addon that will make NVDA think that key is your
modifier; I have most of the code already. To do that, I need the VK
code of that key.

My keyboard doesn't have that key, so you'll have to find this. Here's how:

Go into the NVDA Python console and paste these two lines in. You'll
then have 15 seconds to hit whatever key you want to find the key code
of, so hit that key a few times.
Once you have the code attached to that key, send it here, I'll fix my
addon and send it to you.

import ui;c = lambda vk, scan, extended, injected: (0,
ui.message(str(vk)))[0]
import keyboardHandler, winInputHook;x=wx.CallLater(10000,
winInputHook.setCallbacks,
keyDown=keyboardHandler.internal_keyDownEvent,
keyUp=keyboardHandler.internal_keyUpEvent);winInputHook.setCallbacks(keyDown=c,
keyUp=c)

On 5/30/2020 1:40 AM, Isak Sand wrote:
Hello,

This is my guess too. This particular keyboard model just does not
accept any other keys to be pressed together with Caps Lock, and I will
discuss the issue with Lenovo.

But then, if we for a while forget about the Caps Lock and other, so to
speak, traditional NVDA modifier keys that simply do not seem to work.
Would there be a reasonably easy way to get the < key to act as a NVDA
modifier key? It could be a good solution at least temporarily.
In the Finnish keyboard layout the < key is the one sitting between left
Shift and z; I think it is  back slash (\) in the US English one.

Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Gene
 

Those with more technical knowledge may disagree or say I'm wrong.  I don't think it matters what key you try to use.  I think that if you remap a key, you are telling the keyboard to generate the same incompatible code as the insert and caps lock key generates now.  You are simply telling another key to do the same thing as a key does now.  Are you saying that a portable numpad is something you wouldn't consider?  It is not a different keyboard, just a numpad.  If you really like that computer, that may solve your problem.
 
Gene
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From: Isak Sand
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Hello,

This is my guess too. This particular keyboard model just does not accept any other keys to be pressed together with Caps Lock, and I will discuss the issue with Lenovo.

But then, if we for a while forget about the Caps Lock and other, so to speak, traditional NVDA modifier keys that simply do not seem to work.
Would there be a reasonably easy way to get the < key to act as a NVDA modifier key? It could be a good solution at least temporarily.
In the Finnish keyboard layout the < key is the one sitting between left Shift and z; I think it is  back slash (\) in the US English one.

Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

Hello,

This is my guess too. This particular keyboard model just does not accept any other keys to be pressed together with Caps Lock, and I will discuss the issue with Lenovo.

But then, if we for a while forget about the Caps Lock and other, so to speak, traditional NVDA modifier keys that simply do not seem to work.
Would there be a reasonably easy way to get the < key to act as a NVDA modifier key? It could be a good solution at least temporarily.
In the Finnish keyboard layout the < key is the one sitting between left Shift and z; I think it is  back slash (\) in the US English one.

locked Re: win10 2004 and file explorer options issue

 

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locked win10 2004 and file explorer options issue

 

To make it clear, before this happened I was configuring some optional features, but it could have happened before this, I was getting rid of some unsecure smb protocols that I did no longer need.

However putting everything back didn't seem to do much.

Its just that settings in file explorer options will not take till I do them twice.

So far this is just the hide protected system files and hidden folders and files, its another annoyance but not a showstopper as I can get around it.

I hhave had it on 2 units an amd ryzen 2ng gen and my 4th generation intel in the same house and also a 7th gen intel I have in another location so its not just my configuration.

I will probably feed back these and see what happens to it.

Its not that important exactly, most of the time I only touch this stuff after major updates and while I need to get access to some folders to do with some file syncing services, I can get access to those another way.

As for others saying only install early if you want to be in the shakedown cruise, I am fully aware of this.

I have tested things for several years now and when its stable enough for the public to use then I will gladly test things as long as its not effecting me directly with to many issues, I have backups.

I would not suggest anyone else do what I do unless they want to test to.

locked Re: win10 2004 and file explorer options issue

 

Hmmm I got the warning messages before the request and had no chance to respond to the requests at all.

I am making sure I previde links from now on, but I'd like the option to try again knowing that I need to put links and really should in any case.



On 30/05/2020 9:30 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 03:32 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
And since while I can do links I refuse to include entire article pages to justify my posts I'll leave it to others to do.
The problem, Shaun, is that you almost never include anything, period, that backs up your assertions that are incorrect.  This has been the case on the NVDA group, too.

Links would have been more than adequate, but were virtually never provided, either proactively or when requested.  And those who share reliably accurate information either include citations as a matter of their regular posting practice or can produce same when asked.  
 
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locked Re: win10 2004 and file explorer options issue

Sarah k Alawami
 

Exactly. So for now I will just say that you are speaking false words, again. You seem to be the only one having this issue as I have not seen it on any of the lists i'm on. So go report it and have done with it. Good luck in what might be a fruitless journey.

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On 29 May 2020, at 14:30, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 03:32 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
And since while I can do links I refuse to include entire article pages to justify my posts I'll leave it to others to do.
The problem, Shaun, is that you almost never include anything, period, that backs up your assertions that are incorrect.  This has been the case on the NVDA group, too.

Links would have been more than adequate, but were virtually never provided, either proactively or when requested.  And those who share reliably accurate information either include citations as a matter of their regular posting practice or can produce same when asked.  
 
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locked Re: win10 2004 and file explorer options issue

 

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 03:32 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
And since while I can do links I refuse to include entire article pages to justify my posts I'll leave it to others to do.
The problem, Shaun, is that you almost never include anything, period, that backs up your assertions that are incorrect.  This has been the case on the NVDA group, too.

Links would have been more than adequate, but were virtually never provided, either proactively or when requested.  And those who share reliably accurate information either include citations as a matter of their regular posting practice or can produce same when asked.  
 
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locked win10 2004 and file explorer options issue

 

Hi.

Just noticed another little issue with options in folder options/view.

In particularly hidden files and protected os files.

Sometimes when you tick an option to show or hide they may or may not take and have to be done again.

Sometimes they will not reset at all and you have to restore folders.

Its not a showstopper its just annoying, has anyone else noticed this.

I have noticed this on both my computers here.

Now I don't need to really have these options off at least for the c drive except after an install when I want to clear extra junk folders.

It but for my resilios I need to access a folder to clean out its junk files

Though as I sit here I find since I know the folder name I can actually access it without doing so.

Still its another small glitch with this update.

I have also put up a blog post at http://technology.jaredrimer.net on the windows 10 page with links to various drivers I got from codecguide.com.

Due to losing posting on one list I won't post any more information I can't verify or in fact breaks the verification rules.

And since while I can do links I refuse to include entire article pages to justify my posts I'll leave it to others to do.

Re: Auto language switching in nvda

farhan israk
 

Thank you. I have enabled it. I didn't get any option to configure language. How to do it?


On Fri, 29 May 2020, 7:27 pm Tony Malykh, <anton.malykh@...> wrote:

Did you enable it in settings? Did you configure your language that you would like to switch to?

On 5/28/2020 12:07 PM, farhan israk wrote:

Though I have installed tony enhancement addon, nvda doesn't change language automatically. I downloaded it from nvda addon website yesterday.

Re: Tony's addons - updates

Rui Fontes
 

They have different characters, but both group of characters are in the same UNICODE group...


So, like among the latin languages, it is not possible, without lots of processement, to switch from chinese to japanese and vice-versa...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 02:43 de 28/05/2020, William Wong escreveu:

No, they have different character. As far as I know.


Tony Malykh 於 27/5/2020 22:32 寫道:
Language map can be edited in preferences. Do Chinese and Japanese use the same Unicode character set or different ones? If they use the same set, autmatic switching won't be possible.

On 5/27/2020 3:21 AM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the list of addons.

Regarding "tonysEnhancements"

how to edit Edit language map

for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and Japanese, how should I correct the map?

Thanks.






Re: speech history

 

Something quirky is going on with this add-on.  I have NVDA 2020.1 and a few minutes ago downloaded the Speech History Add-On (speechHistory-2020.2) from the official repository using Add-On Manager.

When I tried to install it, I got an install failed message, yet when I went back to Add-On Manager it's showing in the list.

I exited NVDA and promptly restarted it again, and at the moment it's hanging in Add-On Manager in the Choose Add-On Package Dialog, and has been in that state for approximately 5 minutes.  I'm now killing NVDA with Task Manager.

It seems to have restarted again fully functioning, but I'm not yet sure that Speech History is fully functioning.  It does show as installed and enabled in the Add-Ons Manager, even after the failure to install message.

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Re: speech history

Josef Krasny
 

Hi,

in ad-on manager I see Speech History is installed and will be enabled after NVDA restart. But after NVDA restart is it not enabled. I have NVDA 2020.1. Something is wrong...

Josef

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Re: Auto language switching in nvda

Tony Malykh
 

Did you enable it in settings? Did you configure your language that you would like to switch to?

On 5/28/2020 12:07 PM, farhan israk wrote:

Though I have installed tony enhancement addon, nvda doesn't change language automatically. I downloaded it from nvda addon website yesterday.

NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Isak

The links below indicate that there were some concerns about 3rd party software running on ARM devices back in 2017 but I think many have been resolved since.  The fact that the Bluetooth keyboard worked OK points to the issue being with the keyboard on the device itself and as another list member said, I think you need to take up the issue with Lenovo, as the device is inaccessible to you.  There maybe BIOS settings that can be configured so Lenovo Customer services would be a first port of call.

 

https://www.nv access.org/post/why-cant-nvda-run-on-windows-10-mobile-and-windows-10-s/

 

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/7508

 

Cheers

Chris     

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: 28 May 2020 19:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

                                Isak

Is this device using an ARM processor?   

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Isak Sand
Sent: 28 May 2020 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

A little update.
I just tested with a Bluetooth keyboard, and the issue was not present.
It's not a solution for me to use a separate Bluetooth keyboard, since the keyboard that comes with it is quite good and works as a case for the tablet, but maybe it can help track down the problem.
Just to make the thing a bit more clear, the keyboard that comes with the device is attached to the tablet part using some own docking system; I've not seen such a system before. In the Device Manager it shows just up as a HID Keyboard Device. I have tried updating the drivers through the Device Manager with no luck.

 

 

Re: NVDA and add-ons folder compatible with the new version

junior
 

Thank you!

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Em 28/05/2020 18:17, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi


The following link to my drop box account may help. some of these are not found on the official web page.


The link to it is https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zdqgy3gwmsfd1q9/AAAR6zXjPqrY-13JzxPJCUdFa?dl=0


I do also have a drop box one for earlier add ons as well if people want them.


Those drop box links come off my nvda add ons page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html


The page has other information and also points to other nvda tutorials etc.


Gene nz


On 29/05/2020 8:56 am, junior wrote:
Hail guys, good afternoon, everything good with everyone?

Guys, in order to have saved here for perhaps a future re installation, ETC, could anyone, if they have, make available a folder with all add-ons compatible with the new version of nvda?

I will be immensely grateful to anyone who makes this available to me.