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Re: problem with the newest chrome

 

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive  global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516


Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen
Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it.  Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem.  It isn't clear to me what the problem is.  Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell  The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and  back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome


> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>





Re: getting rid of the extra verbage in thunderbird

Lino Morales
 

Yeah I get that every once in a while. Just restart Thunderbird.

On 8/18/2016 11:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


When I shift tab from the inbox, I get something that says "filter these messages". Is there a way to disable it and go directly to the treeview?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Rosemarie



Re: problem with the newest chrome

Gene
 

I said you can't stop chrome updating but evidently you can.  If you set UAc to its highest level, you can say no when it asks you to allow Chrome to update.  You will have to do this at some point after you start Chrome, probably every time you start it.  However, it may not be worth the risk.  Some Windows users, particularly of Windows 10 though evidently now and then in earlier versions, have had a problem where the yes button disappears from UAC.  If you set UAC to 100, this the results of the problem are evidently far more serious than if they are set at the default level.  Also, it isn't a good idea to run old versions of browsers for security reasons. 
 
It would be better to use a different browser such as Firefox until this problem is resolved.  And, since it may be that Chrome breaks things in upgrades related to accessibility more than Firefox, using Firefox in general might be preferred.
 
However, I don't know what problem you are describing.  I am using the latest release version of Chrome 52.x, and I have no problem working with or seeing everything in Google searches.  Are you using the nonbeta program or a beta?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it.  Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem.  It isn't clear to me what the problem is.  Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell  The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and  back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
 Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome


> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>




Re: problem with the newest chrome

Gene
 

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it.  Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem.  It isn't clear to me what the problem is.  Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell  The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and  back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome


> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>




Re: problem with the newest chrome

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome


hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter




Re: getting rid of the extra verbage in thunderbird

Jacob Kruger
 

Cool.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-19 5:23 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
It worked. Thaniks very much for your help.




On 8/18/2016 8:21 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Thanks, Jacob. I'll do this now.


Rosemarie




On 8/18/2016 8:20 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Invoke view menu, activate toolbars sub-menu, and turn off quick filter bar.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-19 5:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


When I shift tab from the inbox, I get something that says "filter these messages". Is there a way to disable it and go directly to the treeview?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Rosemarie













Re: getting rid of the extra verbage in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It worked. Thaniks very much for your help.

On 8/18/2016 8:21 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Thanks, Jacob. I'll do this now.


Rosemarie




On 8/18/2016 8:20 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Invoke view menu, activate toolbars sub-menu, and turn off quick filter bar.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-19 5:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


When I shift tab from the inbox, I get something that says "filter these messages". Is there a way to disable it and go directly to the treeview?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Rosemarie









Re: getting rid of the extra verbage in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thanks, Jacob. I'll do this now.


Rosemarie

On 8/18/2016 8:20 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Invoke view menu, activate toolbars sub-menu, and turn off quick filter bar.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-19 5:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


When I shift tab from the inbox, I get something that says "filter these messages". Is there a way to disable it and go directly to the treeview?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Rosemarie







Re: getting rid of the extra verbage in thunderbird

Jacob Kruger
 

Invoke view menu, activate toolbars sub-menu, and turn off quick filter bar.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-19 5:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


When I shift tab from the inbox, I get something that says "filter these messages". Is there a way to disable it and go directly to the treeview?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Rosemarie





getting rid of the extra verbage in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


When I shift tab from the inbox, I get something that says "filter these messages". Is there a way to disable it and go directly to the treeview?


Thanks in advance for your help.


Rosemarie


Re: problem with the newest chrome

Kevin Chao
 

1. Which version of CHrome are you running?
2. Please use "Report an issue..." in Help menu.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:49 PM P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
yes, it dramaticaly bad!

but what can we do to solve this problem?

cheers

paul otter



Op 18-8-2016 om 23:15 schreef Artin Dekker:
> I have this problum whit all links in Chrome.
>
> Op 18-8-2016 om 18:24 schreef P. Otter:
>> hello all,
>>
>> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>>
>> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming
>> up, but the link will not be spoken.
>>
>> what's wrong?
>>
>> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>>
>> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>>
>> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
>> problems like this in chrome?
>>
>> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>>
>> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search
>> results.
>>
>> i don't understand why this is changed.
>>
>> before chrome was working perfectly!
>>
>> thanks in advance.
>>
>> paul otter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





soft hyphen in the m.facebook.com

aikeo koomanivong
 

Dear all I’m using NVDA and Fire fox latest version I’m using
M.facebook.com for chat but after I was send or someone send to me,
if I reading it, it always be a soft hyphen it auto insert space for
me how should I solve
regards


--
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Office e-mail: vdba.lao@gmail.com
Facebook page:
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my personal e-mail: mlp_keo@yahoo.com
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Re: problem with the newest chrome

P. Otter
 

yes, it dramaticaly bad!

but what can we do to solve this problem?

cheers

paul otter



Op 18-8-2016 om 23:15 schreef Artin Dekker:

I have this problum whit all links in Chrome.

Op 18-8-2016 om 18:24 schreef P. Otter:
hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter







Re: problem with the newest chrome

 

I have this problum whit all links in Chrome.

Op 18-8-2016 om 18:24 schreef P. Otter:

hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter




problem with the newest chrome

P. Otter
 

hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter


Re: Accessible 3D printing software?

Alexander Masic
 

I investigate this for a yer or something like that. I had some business ideas wich include 3d-printer. . Howevr during that time there was no accessible software available during that time.




Den 2016-08-18 kl. 14:21, skrev Brandon Keith Biggs:

Hello,
I got a 3D printer and would like to start printing stuff with it.
Does anyone know any software or techniques I can use to do this?
The CAD programs I have looked at are not accessible, mostly because they are so visual. I have googled 3D printing for blind users, but all I see is how 3D printing has helped people touch art and whatnot.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've seen some scanners that do 3D scans of items and put them into a CAD program, but again, I would need it to be accessible in some way.
Thanks,



Re: Accessible 3D printing software?

Rui Fontes
 

BQ is not a shop.
They are cell phones and tablets manufacturers, or better, a celular phones
and tablets brand.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Brandon Keith Biggs
Data: 18 de agosto de 2016 16:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Accessible 3D printing software?


Hello Salva,
Why do you think the BQ store may have some ideas? Are they blind owners?
Have they worked with blind users on this problem before? They look really
big, and contacting big stores out of the blue doesn't tend to get me good
results.
Thanks,



Brandon Keith Biggs

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Salva Domnech Miguel via Groups.io
<kibayasd=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi.
Wow, so beautiful! I want a 3D Printer, it looks very curious. I think the
BQ factory, an spanish company who produces tablets, ebooks, smartphones and
3D printers should have an accessible software because they works in
colaboration with the ONCE. maybe you can look for it in their official
website https://store.bq.com/en/


Cheers
Salva Domnech Miguel kibayasd@yahoo.com He creado la lista Biblifilos,
sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envame un
correo o subscrbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a
bibliofilos+subscribe@googlegroups.com
El 18/08/2016 a las 14:21, Brandon Keith Biggs escribi:

Hello,
I got a 3D printer and would like to start printing stuff with it.
Does anyone know any software or techniques I can use to do this?
The CAD programs I have looked at are not accessible, mostly because they
are so visual. I have googled 3D printing for blind users, but all I see is
how 3D printing has helped people touch art and whatnot.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've seen some scanners that do 3D scans of
items and put them into a CAD program, but again, I would need it to be
accessible in some way.
Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs


Re: Accessible 3D printing software?

Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
 

Hi.
I think so because about two years ago they started to work with the ONCE, here in Spain, and I think they continue working with the ONCE.
Salva Doménech Miguel
kibayasd@...
He creado la lista Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo o subscríbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@...


El 18/08/2016 a las 17:43, Brandon Keith Biggs escribió:

Hello Salva,
Why do you think the BQ store may have some ideas? Are they blind owners? Have they worked with blind users on this problem before? They look really big, and contacting big stores out of the blue doesn't tend to get me good results.
Thanks,



On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io <kibayasd@...> wrote:
Hi.
Wow, so beautiful! I want a 3D Printer, it looks very curious. I think the BQ factory, an spanish company who produces tablets, ebooks, smartphones and 3D printers should have an accessible software because they works in colaboration with the ONCE. maybe you can look for it in their official website https://store.bq.com/en/


Cheers
Salva Doménech Miguel
kibayasd@...
He creado la lista Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo o subscríbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@googlegroups.com


El 18/08/2016 a las 14:21, Brandon Keith Biggs escribió:
Hello,
I got a 3D printer and would like to start printing stuff with it.
Does anyone know any software or techniques I can use to do this?
The CAD programs I have looked at are not accessible, mostly because they are so visual. I have googled 3D printing for blind users, but all I see is how 3D printing has helped people touch art and whatnot.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've seen some scanners that do 3D scans of items and put them into a CAD program, but again, I would need it to be accessible in some way.
Thanks,


Re: Accessible 3D printing software?

 

Hello Salva,
Why do you think the BQ store may have some ideas? Are they blind owners? Have they worked with blind users on this problem before? They look really big, and contacting big stores out of the blue doesn't tend to get me good results.
Thanks,

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io <kibayasd@...> wrote:
Hi.
Wow, so beautiful! I want a 3D Printer, it looks very curious. I think the BQ factory, an spanish company who produces tablets, ebooks, smartphones and 3D printers should have an accessible software because they works in colaboration with the ONCE. maybe you can look for it in their official website https://store.bq.com/en/


Cheers
Salva Doménech Miguel
kibayasd@...
He creado la lista Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo o subscríbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@googlegroups.com


El 18/08/2016 a las 14:21, Brandon Keith Biggs escribió:
Hello,
I got a 3D printer and would like to start printing stuff with it.
Does anyone know any software or techniques I can use to do this?
The CAD programs I have looked at are not accessible, mostly because they are so visual. I have googled 3D printing for blind users, but all I see is how 3D printing has helped people touch art and whatnot.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've seen some scanners that do 3D scans of items and put them into a CAD program, but again, I would need it to be accessible in some way.
Thanks,




Re: audioScreen.add on for nvda

Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

I have used this add-on with a touch screen. You need to understand the sound schema and once you do that, you will be able to interpret the shapes of images.

You can read more about the sound schema at http://www.seeingwithsound.com.

I use the add-on regularly so let me know if I can help further.
Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 3:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] audioScreen.add on for nvda

Hi guys

Has any one using NVDA with this add on used it on a touch display and how did they find it.

the last I read about this add on I thought they stopped work on it but it looks as though there is still work been done on it, but you will need the latest version of nvda etc.

Gene nz




http://www.nvaccess.org/audioScreen/

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