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Re: speechhub add-on installation error
hurrikennyandopo ...
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Could I ask which version of NVDA are you using? If I remember right unless it has been removed the old speech hub add on is found within the software but will only work on NVDA 2019.2 and earlier. I am not sure if it has been updated or removed for that version. I have the latest add on for NVDA 2019.3 and onwards which I think he has posted on the website as well I would have to check how far down the page it might be. Not on my computer but will be on the website The page where you can get teh add on from for nvda 2019.3 and onwards can be found at http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/NVDADownloadInstallation.html You will need to look for a heading called installing the speech hub add on and it will give you a link to the latest version and I think mention it for earlier versions. Speech hub gets installed first then the add on. some times you might just have to reboot nvda for it to show up. I will contact Isaac to see if he can make a change at the top of the page where speech hub and the add on come off. It refers to the following below. Download and installation for use with NVDA SpeechHub Version 1.1.0, 1 July 2015 NVDA add-on April 2020 SpeechHub can be installed in Windows 7, 8 and 10. The change of the date and nvda add on 2020 and say either where to look down the page or some thing along those lines. Try the updated one and see if that does the trick for nvda 2019.3 onwards other wise if you tell us I am sure it can be passed on or he might see it in the next day or so and contact you as he is 13 hours behind us and will be night time. Gene nz
On 31/05/2020 2:33 pm, Aschalew Byness wrote:
I couldn't install speechhub add-on. When I try to install it, it says
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Re: speechhub add-on installation error
This does not appear to be an official NVDA add-on, and by that I mean that its developer has never submitted it for vetting and inclusion on the "official add-ons page:"
The SpeechHub main page is: https://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub.html On that page they note that a brand new version was released last month that's compatible with NVDA 2019.3.1 and later with a link to the page where it can be downloaded. On that page, the download is not "front and center" but is a good deal of the way down the page with a click-through link that reads, "here." If this is not the version that you have it's the one you need to get. Pay attention to the installation instructions under the "here" link for downloading. If the new version installer does not work, it is the developers of the add-on that need to be contacted first. If they believe the issue lies with NVDA, they should initiate an issue report on the NVDA Github page. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: speechhub add-on installation error
Aschalew Byness
No, I couldn't find it in the installed add-on list.
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On 5/31/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Double check in Add-Ons Manager (NVDA+N,T,A,Enter) to see whether it's
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Re: speechhub add-on installation error
Double check in Add-Ons Manager (NVDA+N,T,A,Enter) to see whether it's actually not there. Please report back on your findings. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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speechhub add-on installation error
Aschalew Byness
I couldn't install speechhub add-on. When I try to install it, it says
'Failed to install add-on from C:\Users\ytake\Downloads\SpeechHub (1).nvda-addon'. solution?
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Re: Tony's addons - updates
pycld2 is better it has built in function to split string into languages, but you have to pip install from github not pypi. The version on pypi has issues on install.
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在 2020/5/30 22:16, Tony Malykh 写道:
That's what I thought too.
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
There are other models that are also lightweight and portable, for example the Ideapad series. I've been using the Ideapad 720S for over a year now, and I pretty much loved it. I do not really like the fact that I have to hold down fn key, in order to activate normal function keys like f1-f12, but I think I'm getting use to it, given that I have to deal with the same thing on my new desktop.
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Re: Tony's addons - updates
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 04:30 PM, David Ingram wrote:
what ad-ins do you have besides the one for language that I might be able to take advantage of?All were discussed in the message that started this topic, which is in the NVDA Group Archive. This question can be answered, specific to NVDA users, by Searching the NVDA Group Archive..
[“new features” add-ons Tony]
If you don’t find what you’re looking for after doing the above, then try Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive or Searching the JAWS Group Archive if accessibility on the PC is the information you seek. For Android accessibility questions, try Searching the Android Accessibility Group Archive. --Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Tony's addons - updates
David Ingram
what ad-ins do you have besides the one for language that I might be able to take advantage of?
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From: Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@gmail.com>
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Hello all,
Thank you so much for your support and every kind of help! However, I came across another problem that broke the camel's back. After getting the Left Shift to work as an NVDA modifier, I started to put more applications onto the machine. Dropbox is a thing I use on a daily basis, and when it turned out that the desktop app can't be installed on a machine with an ARM processor, and moreover, the Microsoft Store Dropbox App is more or less inaccessible, I just gave in. The computer is re-setting itself and I will return it. Anyway, now I know a lot more about certain things, and I hope you do too. So, as a screen reader user it is not worth it to buy a Miix 630. It's a shame, because otherwise it was a quite nice machine. The keyboard was quite OK to type on, although it was much thinner than on a normal laptop. I very much liked the fact that it had a SIM card slot and this was a big reason I ended up buying that particular machine. The log-in using face recognition also worked very nicely. But this time the downsides were bigger.
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Tyler Spivey
Exactly.
when you correctly press caps+k, caps goes down, k goes down, k goes up and caps goes up. That's reflected in the output, or at least should be. However, your keyboard seems to only support the true modifier keys (alt, control, windows and shift), and can't register more than one keypress at a time otherwise. Seems like you got shift to work as your modifier. Great. I think this might be more anoying than expected. If it is, then we go another route; simply rebinding the keys that you need in the gesture editor using, say, control shift. Nothing says that NVDA key commands need to use the NVDA key. You can remap current line to, say, control shift i without any problem, and it would still give you your left shift for typing normally. There aren't a lot of keys you really need in daily use; this might be a better solution than losing left shift. I also have another addon which turns on the sticky keys functionality for just the NVDA modifier, but that might also be annoying. I would definitely recommend returning that and buying something else. You should be able to find something in the same price range with a better keyboard.
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Isak,
If you purchased locally from a brick and mortar store, and they have a floor model, and they're open and allowing any customers in, I'd suggest you go there with a portable copy of NVDA on a jump drive, explain what is happening with your unit, and asking if you can spend a couple of minutes, under supervision if required, trying out NVDA on their unit. Everything you've described just seems to scream idiosyncratic and fundamentally wrong to me. This would be one way to see if my gut instinct is correct, and whether all might be solved with a replacement machine of exactly the same type. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Brian, yes, the BIOS/UEFI updater did not ask for a restart. It seemingly did nothing, just went away.
Now I re-mapped Left Shift to Insert and it works just beautifully as an NVDA modifyer key. AS I said, not convenient at all, but maybe I can live with it. Fortunately, I don't need to make the final decision whether I want to return the computer or not before in around three weeks.
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Isak, et. al.,
Just as a side note, but an important one, I have not seen a BIOS/UEFI updater package in years that does not check whether what's already installed has the same or higher version number than what it intends to install. If that's found to be true, it just exits. If you did try to run the updater, and did not have to restart, it probably did just that. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
I checked the UEFI/Bios thing and it is up-to-date. The version shown in the System Information is the same as the one on the support page from 2018.
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 01:06 PM, Isak Sand wrote:
The UEFI/Bios update may be of interest. I tried to install it, but I'm not sure whether it succeeded or not.If you got to a point where you were told to restart the machine to finish, and the machine has actually restarted, you've definitely succeeded. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Hello,
You're absolutely right. When pressing Caps Lock +K, I hear 20, 20, 75, 75. So have I understood correctly that when a key command with two keys works as it should, one will hear the modifier key, so to speak, first and last, but if it says the modifier key, in this case Caps Lock which is 20, two times consecutively, it would not work as a modifier key in this case? Here anyway some more test results: Right Control+K: 162, 75, 75, 162 Left Control + K: 163, 75, 75, 163 Left Shift + K: 160, 75, 75, 160 Right Shift + K: 161, 75, 75, 161 For all other keys I tried, § to the left of 1, Print Screen, Delete and some others, it said the other value than 75 twice before 75. Does this all theoretically mean that I could have Left Shift as an NVDA key and do everything Shift is needed for with the right one? Not convenient, but maybe kind of doable, since right shift is rather big and the keyboard itself small.
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Tyler Spivey
Try something.
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Start key test, and press caps+k. You should hear 20, 75, 75, 20. My guess is that instead, you'll hear 20, 20, 75, 75. Also, try that with other keys, for example the key to the left of 1 (` on my keyboard). If that works, we can set the modifier to that with the code.
On 5/30/2020 10:06 AM, Isak Sand wrote:
Hello,
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Hello,
First of all, Chris, Windows+B gives the VK codes "91, 66, 91, 66". To me it seems like the keyboard does not allow any other than certain keys to be pressed together with other ones. If I'm in the keyboard help and press, say, Alt+Control+Shift+K, NVDA will read out every key. When I add Caps Lock to that huge command, it will still say "AltControl+Shift+K", so it kind of just leaves the NVDA key outside the command. Exactly the same happens if I add Insert or the < key that Tyler defined in the Add-on. I have looked at the manual driver page, and there are only two things showing up there: that Bios update you mentioned and then a rather inaccessible piece of software called Rescue and Smart Assistant. I haven't been able to find anything keyboard-related to this machine. The keyboard drivers that show up in Device Manager are HID drivers. The UEFI/Bios update may be of interest. I tried to install it, but I'm not sure whether it succeeded or not. Maybe I should try to figure out which Bios version it has now and whether it matches that newer one. The Exe file I found in the Zip file for the Bios update just seemed to do nothing and when I tried Install.cmd, the computer said straight away something like "press any key to continue".
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all
Isak,
There are several things I would suggest you do, the first of which is to make certain that all of the Lenovo supplied drivers are up to date on your machine. The webpage on their support site for this, where you drop in to the Automatic Driver Update tab, where there is a Start Scan button, is: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/tablets/miix-series/miix-630-12q35/downloads/automatic-driver-update If you prefer to land in the manual tab instead: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/tablets/miix-series/miix-630-12q35/downloads/driver-list but there are a range of settings you need to select from at the top to see the driver(s) you might need, and not all at once, so in this case I'd suggest allowing the automatic scan. There was a BIOS/UEFI update from 2018, and it could be possible your machine does not have that, and that can have an impact on all hardware, including the keyboard. I can find no image or diagram of the actual keyboard layout itself either in the User Guide or Hardware Maintenance Manual, but as you've already indicated they state it is a full-sized keyboard, which generally means at the very least having an Insert key, and very often a number pad (though not necessarily for a convertible tablet keyboard). I suspect either the keyboard driver, UEFI/BIOS, or some interaction between the two is a hitch in the proverbial gitty-up here. There's no logical reason for what you describe, though I have no doubt it's happening. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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