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Re: NVDA and band in a box

 

I know you've asked specifically about Band In A Box, but have you considered other DAWs like Reaper or Cakewalk Sonar?  

It does not look like there are any existing NVDA add-ons for Band In A Box.   Both Reaper and Cakewalk Sonar are less expensive to buy.  Reaper is currently offering a temporary free license in response to the Covid-19 situation, and there is a dedicated group for blind Reaper users called Reapers Without Peepers.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: NVDA and band in a box

Felix G.
 

Hi!
As an amateur musician I'd love to know this too. I've been
considering having a good look at Band In A Box for some time now, but
while my schedule would allow it in principle, I want to spend that
time on exploring the musical capabilities rather than the
accessibility shortcomings of the software. There's only so many extra
hoops you want to jump through during your spare time.
Best,
Felix

Am So., 31. Mai 2020 um 16:23 Uhr schrieb <philippe.balin@...>:


Hi the list,

I’m a new comer on this list and I’ve just migrated from Jaws to NVDA.

My knowledge about NVDA i slow.

I would like to know if it’s possible to use Band in a box 2019 with NVDA ?

With Jaws 2019 it’s possible but only with a scripte.

With NVDA, I have access to the different menus, but impossible to have an access no the chords sheet.

If someone I have a solution, I’m very interested.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards



Philippe




Re: speechhub add-on installation error

Isaac Porat
 

Hello

I am glad it works now for you.

The NVDA add-on installation page:
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/NVDADownloadInstallation.html

States clearly that SpeechHub (there is a link to the installer on the same page as well) needs to be installed first.

When you install the SpeechHub NVDA add-on it checks that SpeechHub is there it runs a test on it and if all is well it completes the add-on installation.

Installed in the above sequence I did not receive a single report on an add-on failure.

Regarding it's synthesizers, I am not sure I understand your question about finding these:
Press [NVDA + Ctrl + s] and the list is there, there are five SpeechHub synthesizers by default group together clearly distinguished by the word 'SpeechHub'.

Regards
Isaac

On 31/05/2020 06:14, Aschalew Byness wrote:
I am now able to install it! I was stupid that I didn’t install
SpeechHub exe first. This was the cause for the problem.
I have another question though. I didn’t find SpeechHub synthesizer as
fast as eSpeak or eloquence synthesizer. Anything I should do for
this?



On 5/31/20, Aschalew Byness via groups.io
<gakidan.ashagre235=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
No, I couldn't find it in the installed add-on list.

On 5/31/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Double check in Add-Ons Manager (NVDA+N,T,A,Enter) to see whether it's
actually not there.

I received a message to the same effect about Speech History when I tried
to
install it two days ago (I think) and mentioned that here on the group.
Even though I got that error it appears to have been spurious, as the
Speech
History add-on is shown as installed and enabled in Add-Ons Manager.

Please report back on your findings.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019





Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

I also have Lenovo Vantage installed on my Ideapad 720S; before, I was able to change the setting relating to the fn key, but after a new update to Vantage, this is no longer the case.


Re: Question regarding connect remote computer or laptop

 

TeamViewer, one of he biggest names in remote access software, is perfectly fine to use.  All remote access software poses some risk.

But, if you're not looking at NVDA Remote, you could give UltraViewer a look and a try.  I know a number of technicians (all sighted) who really like it, but I have absolutely no idea about its accessibility or lack thereof.  It has been around for a long time and is freeware, so it's a commitment of only your time and effort, and that of your partner, to make determinations regarding accessibility.

If you're on Windows 10 I'd also suggest playing around with the Quick Assist built-in.  It works incredibly well in my experience but, again, I've been using it "in sighted mode" on my end when giving assistance, no with a screen reader running on top of it, which is why you'd have to play around to see how accessible it is or is not.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


NVDA and band in a box

philippe.balin@...
 

Hi the list,

I’m a new comer on this list and I’ve just migrated from Jaws to NVDA.

My knowledge about NVDA i slow.

I would like to know if it’s possible to use Band in a box 2019 with NVDA ?

With Jaws 2019 it’s possible but only with a scripte.

With NVDA, I have access to the different menus, but impossible to have an access no the chords sheet.

If someone I have a solution, I’m very interested.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards

 

Philippe

 


Question regarding connect remote computer or laptop

Meet modi
 

Can anyone suggest me which software I use apart from TeamViewer with Nvda screen reader thank you
I want to know about that because I heard TeamViewer is not safe for us to to use remote computer or laptop


Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

What I have experienced when it comes to the function keys is the following:
On some Lenovos, you can change the behaviour using a pre-installed software called Lenovo Vantage. This is true for at least some ThinkPad machines, such as T450 which is the one i have.
I have installed many HP ProbOoks, and on these, at least in most cases, FN + Shift will change the behaviour.
For that Miix 630 I'm not sure how it would have worked; maybe there's a bios setting. Lenovo Vantage was totally different on the Miix than on the ThinkPads I have seen.


Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

When I got my HP laptop, I had exactly the same behaviour, the function keys defaulted to acting as media smart keys and I had to use the FN key to use them as normal function keys.  I found that there is a BIOS setting which reverses this behaviour, I.e switches it around so it defaults to normal function keys and requires FN to use them as media smart keys.  It may be worth researching your model to see if you have such a setting.  You may require sighted help to view the BIOS settings.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: 31 May 2020 00:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

There are other models that are also lightweight and portable, for example the Ideapad series. I've been using the Ideapad 720S for over a year now, and I pretty much loved it. I do not really like the fact that I have to hold down fn key, in order to activate normal function keys like f1-f12, but I think I'm getting use to it, given that I have to deal with the same thing on my new desktop.

 


Re: speechhub add-on installation error

Aschalew Byness
 

I am now able to install it! I was stupid that I didn’t install
SpeechHub exe first. This was the cause for the problem.
I have another question though. I didn’t find SpeechHub synthesizer as
fast as eSpeak or eloquence synthesizer. Anything I should do for
this?



On 5/31/20, Aschalew Byness via groups.io
<gakidan.ashagre235=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
No, I couldn't find it in the installed add-on list.

On 5/31/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Double check in Add-Ons Manager (NVDA+N,T,A,Enter) to see whether it's
actually not there.

I received a message to the same effect about Speech History when I tried
to
install it two days ago (I think) and mentioned that here on the group.
Even though I got that error it appears to have been spurious, as the
Speech
History add-on is shown as installed and enabled in Add-Ons Manager.

Please report back on your findings.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019






Re: speechhub add-on installation error

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Could I ask which version of NVDA are you using? If I remember right unless it has been removed the old speech hub add on is found within the software but will only work on NVDA 2019.2 and earlier.

I am not sure if it has been updated or removed for that version.


I have the latest add on for NVDA 2019.3 and onwards which I think he has posted on the website as well I would have to check how far down the page it might be.

Not on my computer but will be on the website


The page where you can get teh add on from for nvda 2019.3 and onwards can be found at http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/NVDADownloadInstallation.html

You will need to look for a heading called installing the speech hub add on and it will give you a link to the latest version and I think mention it for earlier versions.

Speech hub gets installed first then the add on. some times you might just have to reboot nvda for it to show up.


I will contact Isaac to see if he can make a change at the top of the page where speech hub and the add on come off.


It refers to the following below.


Download and installation for use with NVDA
SpeechHub Version 1.1.0, 1 July 2015
NVDA add-on April 2020
SpeechHub can be installed in Windows 7, 8 and 10.


The change of the date and nvda add on 2020 and say either where to look down the page or some thing along those lines.


Try the updated one and see if that does the trick for nvda 2019.3 onwards other wise if you tell us I am sure it can be passed on or he might see it in the next day or so and contact you as he is 13 hours behind us and will be night time.


Gene nz

On 31/05/2020 2:33 pm, Aschalew Byness wrote:
I couldn't install speechhub add-on. When I try to install it, it says
'Failed to install add-on from C:\Users\ytake\Downloads\SpeechHub
(1).nvda-addon'. solution?


Re: speechhub add-on installation error

 

This does not appear to be an official NVDA add-on, and by that I mean that its developer has never submitted it for vetting and inclusion on the "official add-ons page:"

The SpeechHub main page is:  https://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub.html
On that page they note that a brand new version was released last month that's compatible with NVDA 2019.3.1 and later with a link to the page where it can be downloaded.  On that page, the download is not "front and center" but is a good deal of the way down the page with a click-through link that reads, "here."

If this is not the version that  you have it's the one you need to get.  Pay attention to the installation instructions under the "here" link for downloading.

If the new version installer does not work, it is the developers of the add-on that need to be contacted first.  If they believe the issue lies with NVDA, they should initiate an issue report on the NVDA Github page.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: speechhub add-on installation error

Aschalew Byness
 

No, I couldn't find it in the installed add-on list.

On 5/31/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Double check in Add-Ons Manager (NVDA+N,T,A,Enter) to see whether it's
actually not there.

I received a message to the same effect about Speech History when I tried to
install it two days ago (I think) and mentioned that here on the group.
Even though I got that error it appears to have been spurious, as the Speech
History add-on is shown as installed and enabled in Add-Ons Manager.

Please report back on your findings.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019




Re: speechhub add-on installation error

 

Double check in Add-Ons Manager (NVDA+N,T,A,Enter) to see whether it's actually not there.

I received a message to the same effect about Speech History when I tried to install it two days ago (I think) and mentioned that here on the group.  Even though I got that error it appears to have been spurious, as the Speech History add-on is shown as installed and enabled in Add-Ons Manager.

Please report back on your findings.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


speechhub add-on installation error

Aschalew Byness
 

I couldn't install speechhub add-on. When I try to install it, it says
'Failed to install add-on from C:\Users\ytake\Downloads\SpeechHub
(1).nvda-addon'. solution?


Re: Tony's addons - updates

Larry Wang
 

pycld2 is better it has built in function to split string into languages, but you have to  pip install from github not pypi. The version on pypi has issues on install.

在 2020/5/30 22:16, Tony Malykh 写道:

That's what I thought too.

On a separate note, I was thinking that we can use langdetect library to detect the language of every paragraph on the fly and switch to that language. This would allow to automatically switch between two Latin-based languages, or between Chinese and Japanese. Maybe some day if I have enough time I'll work on that...

On 5/29/2020 11:38 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
They have different characters, but both group of characters are in the same UNICODE group...


So, like among the latin languages, it is not possible, without lots of processement, to switch from chinese to japanese and vice-versa...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 02:43 de 28/05/2020, William Wong escreveu:
No, they have different character. As far as I know.


Tony Malykh 於 27/5/2020 22:32 寫道:
Language map can be edited in preferences. Do Chinese and Japanese use the same Unicode character set or different ones? If they use the same set, autmatic switching won't be possible.

On 5/27/2020 3:21 AM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the list of addons.

Regarding "tonysEnhancements"

how to edit Edit language map

for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and Japanese, how should I correct the map?

Thanks.









Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

There are other models that are also lightweight and portable, for example the Ideapad series. I've been using the Ideapad 720S for over a year now, and I pretty much loved it. I do not really like the fact that I have to hold down fn key, in order to activate normal function keys like f1-f12, but I think I'm getting use to it, given that I have to deal with the same thing on my new desktop.


Re: Tony's addons - updates

 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 04:30 PM, David Ingram wrote:
what ad-ins do you have besides the one for language that I might be able to take advantage of?
All were discussed in the message that started this topic, which is in the NVDA Group Archive.

This question can be answered, specific to NVDA users, by Searching the NVDA Group Archive..


Please read the above and search the archive using the terms enclosed in square brackets below:

[“new features” add-ons Tony]

This returns all of 2 messages to review when the Option 1 in the above referenced document is employed.


For answers not specific to NVDA users, but applicable to all, use the web search technique (Option 2) from the above noted document, but omitting the operator,
site:nvda.groups.io/g/nvda, from the search using just the search terms listed above.  If required, fine tune your terms by adding more if you’re getting too many results that aren’t relevant, or taking them away one by one if you’re getting no results or very few results that do not answer your question.  This is how one learns, over time, to refine searches to get the information you’re seeking while eliminating extraneous material.  The use of exact phrases, e.g., “Notre Dame” and “flying buttress,” can be very effective in getting more focused information than using those 4 words outside of a phrase or even the phrase, “Notre Dame,” combined with the two words flying and buttress.

If you don’t find what you’re looking for after doing the above, then try Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive or Searching the JAWS Group Archive if accessibility on the PC is the  information you seek.  For Android accessibility questions, try Searching the Android Accessibility Group Archive

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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Tony's addons - updates

David Ingram
 

what ad-ins do you have besides the one for language that I might be able to take advantage of?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...>
Sent: May 30, 2020 9:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tony's addons - updates

That's what I thought too.

On a separate note, I was thinking that we can use langdetect library to
detect the language of every paragraph on the fly and switch to that
language. This would allow to automatically switch between two
Latin-based languages, or between Chinese and Japanese. Maybe some day
if I have enough time I'll work on that...

On 5/29/2020 11:38 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
They have different characters, but both group of characters are in
the same UNICODE group...


So, like among the latin languages, it is not possible, without lots
of processement, to switch from chinese to japanese and vice-versa...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 02:43 de 28/05/2020, William Wong escreveu:
No, they have different character. As far as I know.


Tony Malykh 於 27/5/2020 22:32 寫道:
Language map can be edited in preferences. Do Chinese and Japanese
use the same Unicode character set or different ones? If they use
the same set, autmatic switching won't be possible.

On 5/27/2020 3:21 AM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the list of addons.

Regarding "tonysEnhancements"

how to edit Edit language map

for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and
Japanese, how should I correct the map?

Thanks.










Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

Hello all,

Thank you so much for your support and every kind of help!
However, I came across another problem that broke the camel's back.
After getting the Left Shift to work as an NVDA modifier, I started to put more applications onto the machine. Dropbox is a thing I use on a daily basis, and when it turned out that the desktop app can't be installed on a machine with an ARM processor, and moreover, the Microsoft Store Dropbox App is more or less inaccessible, I just gave in. The computer is re-setting itself and I will return it.

Anyway, now I know a lot more about certain things, and I hope you do too.
So, as a screen reader user it is not worth it to buy a Miix 630. It's a shame, because otherwise it was a quite nice machine. The keyboard was quite OK to type on, although it was much thinner than on a normal laptop. I very much liked the fact that it had a SIM card slot and this was a big reason I ended up buying that particular machine. The log-in using face recognition also worked very nicely.
But this time the downsides were bigger.