Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...>

Hi Cearbhall,

Thanks so much for writing, it’s so great to talk to someone who uses Excel as much as I do!  Let me see if I can explain my problem:

My problem now is that I wish I could get NVDA to read the column title before the data instead of after it.  Is there any way to do that?

Thanks so much for your help!

Happy Excelling!

Jane

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and NVDA

Hi Jane,

I am a keen user of Excel with NVDA. I use it almost every day. I would be happy to answer any queries you have.

I wonder exactly what problem you are finding with column headings?

I note that you start your columns one column in and one row down from the top. That is no problem. Place your cursor on cell b2 and press NVDA+shift+c. This will fix b2 as the start of the column headings. If there is a break in row 2, the column title will stop being spoken with the last column before the break. Simply move the cursor on row 2 to the right until you get to the first filled cell after the break and press control+shift+c again. This will set the whole row to be the next set of column headings until the next empty cell in row 2. Repeat this until all the column cells are enabled as column headings. Each column will be echoed even if you are moving on the 1048576th row of the table.

The trick is to watch the gaps.

Let me know if this solves your difficulty and let me know if I can answer any more questions for you! I write complex formulas and macros with no problem using NVDA. It is a great product!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

Re: Stop NVDA from automatically reading media on webpages

Personally I use an ad-blocker in every browser I use except Brave, which does ad-blocking as part of its functionality.  If I have a site that refuses to let me in when the web browser is active, I either disable it for the page I'm trying to get at or the site itself, and that's only if its a site I know I have reason to use repeatedly.  Otherwise I simply take the site off of my list of sites I'll use.  As far as I'm concerned, no site has the right to dictate to me whether or not I can use an ad blocker.  If web ads were as innocuous as print ads are (to the sighted) where you can just jump right over them that would be one thing, but they're not.  They blink, scroll, flash, and sometimes even have sound associated with them.  They make using the web sheer hell for a great many, and I don't want to have to deal with them.

Websites have every right to include ad content, but they have no right to make me view it.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Re: Stop NVDA from automatically reading media on webpages

JM Casey

I sometimes use “reader view” in Firefox. It helps a lot. I *think8 chrome has something similar built in, though it might not be as easy to get to – if it doesn’t, there are definitely extensions you can try for it. If you find yourself on a page where there is annoying “dynamic” content getting in the way of your experience, activate reader mode, and it does its best to strip away a lot of this content. When you’re done, leave reader view and return to normal interactions. It usually works pretty well, though there may be instances where you lose a bit of valuable content too – that hasn’t actually happened to me often.

In Firefox, I just press f9 to activate this mode. It’s also on the toolbar.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Harford
Sent: June 5, 2020 12:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stop NVDA from automatically reading media on webpages

Hello

I'm not sure the subject line accurately describes my issue, but it seems like there are webpages today that have content that automatically refreshes and changes. \unitone \left(  \r2\mathbb{\usepckage{times 9 it appears to be used for advertising or promoting a website's publications.   NVDA }}i\aght) automatically reads this content, and it often interrupts my reading of the articles themselves. Here is an example of a webpage: https://www.lovefood.com/recipes/60477/denis-cotters-black-bean-soup-with-chocolate-and-chillies

As I tried to read the recipe, the screenreader is also reading some sort of a flash object that is promoting other articles. Is there a way to stop this? It seems like either I should be able to stop the screenreader from announcing this, or I should be able to stop Google Chrome from displaying it. I have used ad blockers in the past, but it seems like many webpages now will not allow you to access their resources if you are using an ad blocker, so I wonder if there is some other tool that I could use.

Regards
Justin

Justin Harford (he/him/his)

Program Coordinator (NCDE)

Mobility International USA (MIUSA)

Eugene OR 97401

541-343-1284 (voice)

jharford@... (email)

Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...>

Yes, that was the first thing I did, read the section on Excel.  And I followed the steps just as they were outlined there.  It worked for the other spreadsheets.

Jane Carona

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louis Maher
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 3:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

Have you read the manual’s chapter on Excel?

Hit NVDA key + n, arrow down to help, open the menu and arrow down to the users’ guide, and hit h until you reach the section on Excel (SECTION 11.2).

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

NVAccess does not do e-mail support.  See this page for online support options:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Connect
and this one for paid telephone support:  https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-telephone-support/

Is this spreadsheet set up with title columns (for the respective rows) and title rows (for the respective columns) either in Excel itself, which is my preferred method, or in NVDA?   This has been discussed many times on this group.  Searching the NVDA Group Archive

When I use the Groups.io search on [Excel title row column] virtually every message that comes back (many of which are mine, and many others which are not) come up immediately.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Hi Jane,

I am a keen user of Excel with NVDA. I use it almost every day. I would be happy to answer any queries you have.

I wonder exactly what problem you are finding with column headings?

I note that you start your columns one column in and one row down from the top. That is no problem. Place your cursor on cell b2 and press NVDA+shift+c. This will fix b2 as the start of the column headings. If there is a break in row 2, the column title will stop being spoken with the last column before the break. Simply move the cursor on row 2 to the right until you get to the first filled cell after the break and press control+shift+c again. This will set the whole row to be the next set of column headings until the next empty cell in row 2. Repeat this until all the column cells are enabled as column headings. Each column will be echoed even if you are moving on the 1048576th row of the table.

The trick is to watch the gaps.

Let me know if this solves your difficulty and let me know if I can answer any more questions for you! I write complex formulas and macros with no problem using NVDA. It is a great product!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

Louis Maher

Have you read the manual’s chapter on Excel?

Hit NVDA key + n, arrow down to help, open the menu and arrow down to the users’ guide, and hit h until you reach the section on Excel (SECTION 11.2).

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

NVAccess does not do e-mail support.  See this page for online support options:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Connect
and this one for paid telephone support:  https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-telephone-support/

Is this spreadsheet set up with title columns (for the respective rows) and title rows (for the respective columns) either in Excel itself, which is my preferred method, or in NVDA?   This has been discussed many times on this group.  Searching the NVDA Group Archive

When I use the Groups.io search on [Excel title row column] virtually every message that comes back (many of which are mine, and many others which are not) come up immediately.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:31 AM, Janet Brandly wrote:
The email support is outstanding.
Janet,

To what are you making reference here?  I ask because NVAccess does not, to my knowledge and according to their own support pages, offer official e-mail support.  They point to online resources, of which this is one, but while we're closely associated with NVAccess we're not really "owned by" them.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Jane,

NVDA can and does read row and/or column titles.  Please take the time to do some research and playing around before throwing in the towel!
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...>

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

NVAccess does not do e-mail support.  See this page for online support options:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Connect
and this one for paid telephone support:  https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-telephone-support/

Is this spreadsheet set up with title columns (for the respective rows) and title rows (for the respective columns) either in Excel itself, which is my preferred method, or in NVDA?   This has been discussed many times on this group.  Searching the NVDA Group Archive

When I use the Groups.io search on [Excel title row column] virtually every message that comes back (many of which are mine, and many others which are not) come up immediately.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz

Hi Jane,

You may also install an addon for Outlook which gives you lots of the Window-Eyes capabilities back for Outlook. Please see here:

cheers,

Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Freitag, 5. Juni 2020 19:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Thanks, that worked fine!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 11:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Hi, Jane,

I haven't worked with exel using NVDA but asfar as opening attachments in outlook, you shift tab to the attachment and hit control right arrow. You'll hear the word "message". Hit the context key and arrow down to penattachment. Hit enter to open it.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie

On 6/5/2020 3:21 AM, Jane Carona wrote:

Hi everyone,

I’m new to this list, and so grateful to have found it!  I was a very happy WindowEyes user and came to Jaws very unwillingly, and have never liked it.  Just started using NVDA today, and it seems a lot like WindowEyes, so I think I’ll be very happy!

But I have two questions:  How do I access attachments in Outlook.  Typically, when on a message with an attachment, I’d shift tab to the attachment and hit enter on it, but that doesn’t seem to work with NVDA.

My other pressing issue is reading titles with Excel.  I live in Excel, so this could be a deal-breaker.  With smaller spreadsheets, I’ve gotten the titles to read pretty well, but I have some spreadsheets that have 17,000 or more rows, and NVDA reads the first row of data sometimes as column titles.  Is there a limit on the size spreadsheet NVDA can comfortably handle?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Jane Carona

Jane.e.carona@...

NVAccess does not do e-mail support.  See this page for online support options:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Connect
and this one for paid telephone support:  https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-telephone-support/

Is this spreadsheet set up with title columns (for the respective rows) and title rows (for the respective columns) either in Excel itself, which is my preferred method, or in NVDA?   This has been discussed many times on this group.  When I use the Groups.io search on [Excel title row column] virtually every message that comes back (many of which are mine, and many others which are not) come up immediately.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...>

I just tried to send my huge spreadsheet to support@... in hopes that someone can see why my NVDA isn’t reading the titles, and that address isn’t valid.  Does anyone know how I can contact someone at NVAccess who might be able to fix this problem?

Jane Carona

Jane.e.carona@...

Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...>

Thanks, that worked fine!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 11:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Hi, Jane,

I haven't worked with exel using NVDA but asfar as opening attachments in outlook, you shift tab to the attachment and hit control right arrow. You'll hear the word "message". Hit the context key and arrow down to penattachment. Hit enter to open it.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie

On 6/5/2020 3:21 AM, Jane Carona wrote:

Hi everyone,

I’m new to this list, and so grateful to have found it!  I was a very happy WindowEyes user and came to Jaws very unwillingly, and have never liked it.  Just started using NVDA today, and it seems a lot like WindowEyes, so I think I’ll be very happy!

But I have two questions:  How do I access attachments in Outlook.  Typically, when on a message with an attachment, I’d shift tab to the attachment and hit enter on it, but that doesn’t seem to work with NVDA.

My other pressing issue is reading titles with Excel.  I live in Excel, so this could be a deal-breaker.  With smaller spreadsheets, I’ve gotten the titles to read pretty well, but I have some spreadsheets that have 17,000 or more rows, and NVDA reads the first row of data sometimes as column titles.  Is there a limit on the size spreadsheet NVDA can comfortably handle?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Jane Carona

Jane.e.carona@...

Re: NVDA becoming unresponsive in Microsoft Teams

Eilana Benish

Shalom all

this is a known issue for quite some time now and as I understood the problem is with the platform for making apps like Microsoft Teams and WhatsApp For Windows .

in the meantime , I suggest you work with Microsoft Teams from the browser. I guess that the best experience would be with the new Microsoft Edge based chromium.

I tested Microsoft team with the Mozilla Firefox browser and NVDA And I did not experience any problems with NVDA stops Speaking .in fact I think that in the browser Microsoft teams works better due to the high level of Accessibility using ARIA correctly.

‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 3 ביוני 2020 ב-15:41 מאת ‪David Goldfield‬‏ <‪david.goldfield@...‬‏>:‬

This problem is not just an NVDA issue but is more of a problem with Teams and it's one which Microsoft is aware of, although I'm somewhat mystified that it's taken this long for a fix to be deployed to production.

One way to get Teams to cooperate when accessibility seems to break down is to resize the window. In other words, press Windows-down arrow to minimize it and then restore or maximize it again. This should get Teams to resume communicating with your screen reader.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/3/2020 12:52 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

This I believe has ben discussed on this group, if not it has ben discussed on my ttwitter feed as well. I would search at least on the group to see and on github as well.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Jun 2020, at 21:29, Luke Robinett wrote:

The conferencing/chat app Microsoft Teams is generally fairly accessible, but I’m experiencing a recurring issue. After a certain amount of time with the app loaded, eventually NVDA will no longer narrate the contents of the Teams GUI when using the tab key and Teams shortcut keys. When this happens, the only way to navigate the app is with object navigation. If I close and relaunch Teams it starts working again.

This happens frequently, but I can’t quite pin down a specific condition or amount of time that triggers it. Sometimes it happens out of the blue, other times it seems to happen after I’ve shared my desktop on a call.

I’ve tried restarting NVDA but it doesn’t fix it. I’ve also tried NVDA key + F5 to refresh the virtual buffer but still nothing. Can anyone think of any other troubleshooting steps I can try? Having to restart Teams is not ideal, as I’m often in the middle of a work conference and that’s akin to walking out of the room. Lol. Especially annoying/embarrassing when I’m trying to share content.

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ובכבוד רב | Sincerely,

אילנה בניש מורשה נגישות שירות 2200 | Eilana Benish, service Accessibility authorized (2200)

📱 +972-50-7100367 | 📧 benish.ilana@...

Re: Stop NVDA from automatically reading media on webpages

Sarah k Alawami

Try brave. This might help as it I think strips out the adds but still gives you full access to the article.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 5 Jun 2020, at 9:25, Justin Harford wrote:

Hello

I'm not sure the subject line accurately describes my issue, but it seems like there are webpages today that have content that automatically refreshes and changes. \unitone \left(  \r2\mathbb{\usepckage{times 9 it appears to be used for advertising or promoting a website's publications.   NVDA }}i\aght) automatically reads this content, and it often interrupts my reading of the articles themselves. Here is an example of a webpage: https://www.lovefood.com/recipes/60477/denis-cotters-black-bean-soup-with-chocolate-and-chillies

As I tried to read the recipe, the screenreader is also reading some sort of a flash object that is promoting other articles. Is there a way to stop this? It seems like either I should be able to stop the screenreader from announcing this, or I should be able to stop Google Chrome from displaying it. I have used ad blockers in the past, but it seems like many webpages now will not allow you to access their resources if you are using an ad blocker, so I wonder if there is some other tool that I could use.

Regards
Justin
Justin Harford (he/him/his)
Program Coordinator (NCDE)
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 (voice)
jharford@... (email)

Re: Stop NVDA from automatically reading media on webpages

Tyler Spivey

NV Access doesn't seem interested in fixing this.
In the meantime, I've written an addon which will do the best it can
given how NVDA works to let you do this.

The limitations are that it'll disable live regions, but it'll also
disable the API while turned on. So things like TW Blue, etc won't work.

Here's how to use it. Install the addon, then bind a gesture to it in
the editor.
I use NVDA+print screen. While turned on, that page reads fine.

On 6/5/2020 9:25 AM, Justin Harford wrote:
Hello

I'm not sure the subject line accurately describes my issue, but it
seems like there are webpages today that have content that automatically
refreshes and changes. \unitone \left(  \r2\mathbb{\usepckage{times 9 it
appears to be used for advertising or promoting a website's
publications.   NVDA }}i\aght) automatically reads this content, and it
often interrupts my reading of the articles themselves. Here is an
example of a webpage:
https://www.lovefood.com/recipes/60477/denis-cotters-black-bean-soup-with-chocolate-and-chillies

sort of a flash object that is promoting other articles. Is there a way
to stop this? It seems like either I should be able to stop the
screenreader from announcing this, or I should be able to stop Google
Chrome from displaying it. I have used ad blockers in the past, but it
seems like many webpages now will not allow you to access their
resources if you are using an ad blocker, so I wonder if there is some
other tool that I could use.

Regards
Justin
Justin Harford (he/him/his)
Program Coordinator (NCDE)
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 (voice)
jharford@miusa.org <mailto:jharford@miusa.org> (email)

Stop NVDA from automatically reading media on webpages

Justin Harford

Hello

I'm not sure the subject line accurately describes my issue, but it seems like there are webpages today that have content that automatically refreshes and changes. \unitone \left(  \r2\mathbb{\usepckage{times 9 it appears to be used for advertising or promoting a website's publications.   NVDA }}i\aght) automatically reads this content, and it often interrupts my reading of the articles themselves. Here is an example of a webpage: https://www.lovefood.com/recipes/60477/denis-cotters-black-bean-soup-with-chocolate-and-chillies

As I tried to read the recipe, the screenreader is also reading some sort of a flash object that is promoting other articles. Is there a way to stop this? It seems like either I should be able to stop the screenreader from announcing this, or I should be able to stop Google Chrome from displaying it. I have used ad blockers in the past, but it seems like many webpages now will not allow you to access their resources if you are using an ad blocker, so I wonder if there is some other tool that I could use.

Regards
Justin
Justin Harford (he/him/his)
Program Coordinator (NCDE)
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 (voice)
jharford@... (email)

Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Richard Kuzma

Yes, jaws says that too sometimes when it is not true.

Go figure

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 11:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New to NVDA

Hello Jane and all,

I was also very happy with Window-Eyes. Fortunately, I skipped JAWS completely and came directly to NVDA. I have been happy with it so far. The email support is outstanding.

Regarding attachments in Outlook, recently I was having an issue where NVDA would announce that a message had an attachment but, when shift-tabbing from the message body, no attachment would appear. Apparently these messages did not in fact have attachments but the reason NVDA saying they did had something to do with how the message was written. When messages do have actual attachments, they will appear when you shift-tab from within the body of the message. You will hear the list of attachments and told to use alt plus down arrow to hear the list of options.

I have no meaningful experience with Excel so cannot help you there.

Hope this helps,

Janet

New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Janet Brandly

Hello Jane and all,

I was also very happy with Window-Eyes. Fortunately, I skipped JAWS completely and came directly to NVDA. I have been happy with it so far. The email support is outstanding.

Regarding attachments in Outlook, recently I was having an issue where NVDA would announce that a message had an attachment but, when shift-tabbing from the message body, no attachment would appear. Apparently these messages did not in fact have attachments but the reason NVDA saying they did had something to do with how the message was written. When messages do have actual attachments, they will appear when you shift-tab from within the body of the message. You will hear the list of attachments and told to use alt plus down arrow to hear the list of options.

I have no meaningful experience with Excel so cannot help you there.

Hope this helps,

Janet

Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Sky Mundell

Hello Jane. Welcome to this list. Like you, I was a loyal Window-Eyes user myself and I am using NVDA and it is a fantastic product for sure. Anyways, to answer your question about Outlook, if you shift tab to the attachments list, use your right arrow to select the attachments. I don’t have any experience with Excel with NVDA but NVDA has basic training modules you can purchase and I believe there is a training module in it for Excel.

On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:21 AM, Jane Carona <jane.e.carona@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,
I’m new to this list, and so grateful to have found it!  I was a very happy WindowEyes user and came to Jaws very unwillingly, and have never liked it.  Just started using NVDA today, and it seems a lot like WindowEyes, so I think I’ll be very happy!

But I have two questions:  How do I access attachments in Outlook.  Typically, when on a message with an attachment, I’d shift tab to the attachment and hit enter on it, but that doesn’t seem to work with NVDA.

My other pressing issue is reading titles with Excel.  I live in Excel, so this could be a deal-breaker.  With smaller spreadsheets, I’ve gotten the titles to read pretty well, but I have some spreadsheets that have 17,000 or more rows, and NVDA reads the first row of data sometimes as column titles.  Is there a limit on the size spreadsheet NVDA can comfortably handle?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Jane Carona

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