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Re: Navigating a Word Document with Editable Fields?
Brandon,
This appears to be a very decently designed MS-Word fillable form, at least strictly from a visual standpoint, accessibility is another thing. The form itself is password protected, so I cannot dissect the form in detail. There do not appear to be any tables visually, and why this designer chose to use them I have no idea, as I'm hearing what you are when traversing the form. The form just a series of text form fields, with the exception of the Date Awarded, which is a dropdown that allows selection from a calendar, though you can type in mm/dd/yyyy if you so choose. I can tab and shift+Tab to move to the next/previous form fields. Home/End take me to the first/last position in a form field. But only some of the fields have any alt-text to tell you what they are. The text in between the fields is not accessible, nor should it be accessible, while the form is in "fillable" mode and if the designer knew what they were doing they should have placed alt text on each fillable item that tells you what the labels that are part of the form show. They also should not have used tables in a form of this type. There are times they're helpful, but not here. I don't know what options you have as far as seeking assistance with, and giving feedback about, this form. But whoever designed this doesn't know even basic accessibility principles for a fillable form. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Navigating a Word Document with Editable Fields?
Luke Davis
Also don't forget about Firefox Send (https://send.firefox.com), which lets you send a file that expires after a certain number of days or downloads. (I believe 1 day and 1 download, if you don't have an account.)
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, Brian Vogel wrote:
Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, or similar is probably the best way to share a copy of this document. I've just used a free cloud solution when I needed
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Re: Navigating a Word Document with Editable Fields?
Hello, Sorry, the attached word document did not come through. Here is the document to download: (Click on the "VENDOR_SELECTION_FORM.docx" and it will download) Thanks, Thanks,
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 1:58 PM Brandon Keith Biggs via groups.io <brandonkeithbiggs=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Navigating a Word Document with Editable Fields?
Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, or similar is probably the best way to share a copy of this document. I've just used a free cloud solution when I needed to share something widely among the readership here.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Navigating a Word Document with Editable Fields?
Luke Davis
Attachments can't be sent to the list; it didn't come through.
You'll need to put it in Dropbox or something, or send it to someone off-list who can do that. (I can) Luke
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Navigating a Word Document with Editable Fields?
Hello, I am unable to navigate this attached word document with NVDA. Does anyone know NVDA settings or word settings I can do to make this document readable? Here are the problems: 1. I am unable to press left or right arrow keys, or ctrl+left or ctrl+right arrow keys to move through each row. 2. I am unable to erase content after typing it without arrowing down, out of the box, then arrowing back into the box 3. The text in between the tables is not read by NVDA 4. Using table navigation commands doesn't seem to work properly, from column 2, I am unable to move to column 1. 5. When arrowing through the table, I sometimes get stuck in an endless loop, around the check boxes 6. Arrowing up and down doesn't seem to always show the same content I just past. Thank you,
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Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds
Daniel Damacena
alt, more tools, extensions, main menu, hotkeys. I use chrome in my own language, so it might be a little bit different. Em ter., 23 de jun. de 2020 às 11:19, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> escreveu:
about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel --
Daniel Damacena
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Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:
Luke Davis
Just for the record, for anyone who wants it for some obscure reason, 2017.3 can be downloaded directly from NV Access, at https://nvaccess.org/download.
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But seriously people, please don't. Unless you're running Vista or XP, you don't want or need this. There is no, zero, as in not any, positive value to running 2017.3 under Windows 10. Luke
On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, Arlene wrote:
Hey Zarah, I did have 17.2 and 17.3 on my external hard drive. I think I did get rid of it. I might have done it on my 7 box before it bit the dust. My room
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Re: SentenceNav addon doesn't work properly in Notepad++
Daniel Damacena
The same happens here. In notepad from windows it takes a long time to work too. Em ter., 23 de jun. de 2020 às 15:27, blago blago via groups.io <blago37=mail.ru@groups.io> escreveu:
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Daniel Damacena
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Re: nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface
Gene
You might be better served to press the down arrow many times rather than holding it down. You may be somehow overloading something and causing a problem. But why are you scrolling? What are you trying to do, skim, find something on the page? It may be that there are much better ways to do what you want to do.
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From: Lenron Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:35 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface Hmm I keep thinking something is wrong with nvda because I can't seem to scroll in firefox. I will scroll and then at will lock and tell me unknown. Then I will Tab and it will fix itself for a bit. On 6/23/20, Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you, sir. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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Re: Why does NVDA default to no Braille?
Gene
The easiest way to save settings manually is to use the command control NVDA key c. You will hear an announcement configuration saved, or something very similar.
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It is better to turn off automatic saving of settings on exit and save settings manually you intend to keep. What if Windows unexpectedly shuts down when you are trying settings you don't know if you want to save? If you have automatic saving of settings enabled, the settings will be saved, whether you want them to be or not. Gene
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From: Samuel Kacer Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA default to no Braille? Hi, I think the issue is that your NVDA is probably set to not save changes to settings when it shuts down. Whenever you change some settings and you want them to persist in your next session, open nvda menu (NVDA + N), and select the save configuration option (S). Now your settings should be saved. Test this is so by restarting NVDA and checking if everything is all right. Also, if you want to use narrator, you don't need to quit NVDA. You can turn on sleep mode for your current application by pressing NVDA + shift + S and NVDA will be disabled for that application. Press the keyboard shortcut to toggle off sleep mode. On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 2:58 PM zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote: hello. which version of nvda do you use? the first sentence about nvda 2018.3 is: automatic detection of many Braille displays. so, dont worry. nvda supports your braile display i need. also, you can refer to the nvda user guide to find more informations about different braile displays. On 6/23/20, Nightowl <nightowl145@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Well, I tried it in Google Chrome...
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lenron Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 21:35 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface Hmm I keep thinking something is wrong with nvda because I can't seem to scroll in firefox. I will scroll and then at will lock and tell me unknown. Then I will Tab and it will fix itself for a bit. On 6/23/20, Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you, sir. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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Re: nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface
Lenron
Hmm I keep thinking something is wrong with nvda because I can't seem
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to scroll in firefox. I will scroll and then at will lock and tell me unknown. Then I will Tab and it will fix itself for a bit.
On 6/23/20, Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, sir. --
Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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Re: Why does NVDA default to no Braille?
Samuel Kacer
Hi, I think the issue is that your NVDA is probably set to not save changes to settings when it shuts down. Whenever you change some settings and you want them to persist in your next session, open nvda menu (NVDA + N), and select the save configuration option (S). Now your settings should be saved. Test this is so by restarting NVDA and checking if everything is all right. Also, if you want to use narrator, you don't need to quit NVDA. You can turn on sleep mode for your current application by pressing NVDA + shift + S and NVDA will be disabled for that application. Press the keyboard shortcut to toggle off sleep mode.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 2:58 PM zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote: hello.
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Re: nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface
Marisane Moruthanyana
Thank you, sir.
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I will try that.
On 6/23/20, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hello,
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SentenceNav addon doesn't work properly in Notepad++
blago blago
Hello! When i press Alt+Up addon don't go to previous sentence. Maybe i should check some settings in notepad++?
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Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:
Arlene
Hey Zarah, I did have 17.2 and 17.3 on my external hard drive. I think I did get rid of it. I might have done it on my 7 box before it bit the dust. My room mate told me that Ihad dumped it. I knew I was coming to windows ten. So she did tell me I dumped it. She dumped it when she used a thumb drive that I had it on. I do like the voice it now comes with. I hope Luke or someone gives you the link so you can go get your 17.2 or 17.3. I don’t want it. Is your xp computer dying? The windows commands are somewhat the same. But it’s a little different from xp. You wont have outlook express like you do with xp.
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From: zahra
Sent: June 23, 2020 5:23 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:
Luke, thanks for your helping me. i sent you email and i waiting for your help off list.
On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote: > You may, although since I don't regularly use that old version for other > than > testing purposes, I don't know how much help I will be. But you're welcome > to > try. > > I will also note, that Espeak has definite issues under Windows 10 and > 2017.3. > The longer the text you read, the more harsh and distorted Espeak becomes, > until > it reaches some threshold and resets. > > Espeak is definitely not pleasant in that use case. Some people might say it > > never is, but for someone like me who uses and prefers it, under 2017.3 it > is > difficult to listen to after a short time. > > But you're welcome to ask your questions. > > Luke > > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote: > >> thanks so much for your reply! >> may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard? >> however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2. >> but espeak in 2017.3 is also good, >> and there is no difference about espeak between these versions. > > > >
-- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:
Arlene
I don’t need the link. Zarah can have it. I’m happy with the current version of NVDA. From what I did remember. My room mate did ask if I wanted 17.2 and 17.3 gone. I did say get rid of it thinking it wont work for win ten.
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From: zahra
Sent: June 23, 2020 5:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:
Arlene, thanks for your comments. i have links for nvda versions and if you need another versions than the current one, i can give you direct link. is giving direct link to other people permissable?
On 6/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote: > Luke, Arlene here. I had both versions of NVDA 17.2 all the way to 19 > something. But when my windows 7 died I lost all versions. The one I did > get back was NVDA 19 something. I didn’t think it would work for windows > ten not unless like you said if you were testing addons. It would probably > work. I would have given it to Zarah but I lost it when my 7 lost audio and > died. I did have it on a thumb drive but when I loaned the drive to my room > mate while she was helping her mom they deleted it thinking it would not > work for win ten. They installed the 19 version on her mom’s ten box just > as they did mine. Oh well. That’s how it goes. > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: zahra > Sent: June 22, 2020 9:38 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions: > > > > Luke, > > thanks so much for your reply! > > may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard? > > however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2. > > but espeak in 2017.3 is also good, > > and there is no difference about espeak between these versions. > > > > On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote: > >> Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on >> testing, > >> and its > >> basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least, Win 10 > >> version > >> 1909. > >> > >> However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App > >> Essentials, > >> do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions. > >> > >> Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on > >> Windows > >> 10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need to use > >> it to > >> find bugs for add-ons and things like that. > >> > >> I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader. > >> > >> Luke > >> > >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote: > >> > >>> nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3! > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > By God, > > were I given all the seven heavens > > with all they contain > > in order that > > I may disobey God > > by depriving an ant > > from the husk of a grain of barley, > > I would not do it. > > imam ali > > > > > > > >
-- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:
Hi,
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Not all Windows 10 systems are equal, as they may run different Windows 10 releases. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:47 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions: hi Joseph. thanks extremely for your help. according to my understanding from your comment, if i find one system with windows ten, (all current and previous versions of windows ten are equal in this regard) that i can use them for basic usage. am i right? for example: navigating between files and folders, settings and control panel, reading and writing documents and listening to audio files are all available in windows ten with nvda 2017.2 and 2017.3. but if i want to benefit from all new and modern features, modern softwares of windows ten, and especially cloud services of windows ten, i should use new version of nvda. because some features of current versions of windows ten, are completely new and they were not available in the year of 2017 that nvda can supports them. the features like this sentence that i read about 2018.3 • Added support for various modern input features introduced in recent Windows 10 releases. These include emoji panel (Fall Creators Update), dictation (Fall Creators Update), hardware keyboard input suggestions (April 2018 Update), and cloud clipboard paste (October 2018 Update). i believe that with 2017.3 and even 2017.2, i dont miss anything except emojie and all other modern features that i read and mentioned they are supported in 2018.3. am i right? thanks again for your help and your comment that helped me a lot, and i became freed from concern about my need and use case about windows ten, (if i need some day to use another system in other places with my favorite versions of nvda that support persian language and american accent together? sorry, i wish that my english could be easily understandable for you and other people! God bless you and i dont forget praying for you and i always request divine infinite mercy, favors, bounties and blessings for you and all nvda developers. On 6/23/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds
My Youtube is not automatically set to play.
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But I tried the up arrow key after I set NVDA to focus mode by pressing NVDA+space. I was able to increase volume to a satisfactory level. Now I can go back to using Firefox again. Thank you all for your help.
On 6/23/20, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Yes, it is up-arrow. Usually youtube is set to atomatically starting the --
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