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Re: Code Factory & NVDA 2020

 

To be honest that was why I got myself sapi eloquence and vocaliser.

True they cost me more to buy but I don't have this issue with nvda versions.

If it wasn't so ruddy expensive I'd buy the entire acapella sapi to but you can't download the full english or multilang infovox and need to buy it as well a flash drive.

That would be fine but at double the price after buying it in the uk, no thanks.

Its a pitty new zealand or australia don't have a local distributor at all.

Its also a pitty I can't just buy it as an online purchice from acapella itself and is probably the only thing stopping me getting that one.

Seroproc is nice but with everything being 25 bucks each and with noveltys being 10 bucks each I'd have to buy everything as indevidual products.

Neospeech is allso split up as well as ivona and while maxiaids has the old neospeech for a reasonable price and while they claim to ship outside the us, paypal seems to only work in the us so I had to give up.

I may try later on and see if I can manually send them cash without using paypal for the thing.

Or at least not the paypal form, I have brought things with direct email address submition before and it has worked.



On 28/06/2020 10:00 pm, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

Perhaps if you contact Codefactory and explain what software you have and what you want it to run on, they will be able to tell you what you need to do and what, if any,  costs are involved in getting it working.

 

https://codefactoryglobal.com/contact-us/

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory & NVDA 2020

 

    Let me see if I can clarify this some.

 

    I have a Vovalizer voice from Code Factory. It is incompatible with

NVDA    2020 and will be disabled if I proceed with installation. Someone

indicated the voice needs to be updated. I need to know how to do that.

 

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>      Ok I wish to take care of this one. How do I update my purchased

>

> Samantha voice so it works with the NVDA 2020 build? Once I do this, I

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Re: Minor Problem: NVDA Closing/Exit Sounds Not Being Heard When Exiting NVDA

Vlad Dragomir
 

That’s great David! This way we might have a chance to see a change or two. All the best!


Re: Code Factory & NVDA 2020

mattias
 

Here is the link

https://www.codefactoryglobal.com/downloads/installers/codefactory-py3-1.0.nvda-addon

 

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Greg,

    Ok now that I found the source where I bought the add on, I looked

around on the site but did not see anything for drivers. I can contact

them but who knows how long that will take. Would the driver be in the

add on file?

 

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On 6/28/2020 3:38 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:

> Hello,

> It is not the voice that needs to be updated. You need to update the driver for the voices. You should be able to find the updated driver from the code factory website or from where you bought the voices.

>

> Greg Wocher

>

>

>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 6:21 PM, E.T. via groups.io <ancient.aliens@...> wrote:

>> 

>>    Let me see if I can clarify this some.

>> 

>>    I have a Vovalizer voice from Code Factory. It is incompatible with NVDA    2020 and will be disabled if I proceed with installation. Someone indicated the voice needs to be updated. I need to know how to do that.

>> 

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>> On 6/27/2020 10:37 AM, mattias wrote:

>>> What do you talk about?

>>> Skickades från E-post <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> för Windows 10

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>>>      Ok I wish to take care of this one. How do I update my purchased

>>> Samantha voice so it works with the NVDA 2020 build? Once I do this, I

>>> can check off more to-do tasks. Thanks.

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Re: Code Factory & NVDA 2020

mattias
 

You need the python3 version

 

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    Let me see if I can clarify this some.

 

    I have a Vovalizer voice from Code Factory. It is incompatible with

NVDA              2020 and will be disabled if I proceed with installation. Someone

indicated the voice needs to be updated. I need to know how to do that.

 

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>

> Samantha voice so it works with the NVDA 2020 build? Once I do this, I

>

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Re: Code Factory & NVDA 2020

E.T.
 

Greg,
I believe I found an updated installer file and will try it shortly.

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Greg,
   Ok now that I found the source where I bought the add on, I looked around on the site but did not see anything for drivers. I can contact them but who knows how long that will take. Would the driver be in the add on file?
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On 6/28/2020 3:38 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
It is not the voice that needs to be updated. You need to update the driver for the voices. You should be able to find the updated driver from the code factory website or from where you bought the voices.

Greg Wocher


On Jun 27, 2020, at 6:21 PM, E.T. via groups.io <ancient.aliens=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

   Let me see if I can clarify this some.

   I have a Vovalizer voice from Code Factory. It is incompatible with NVDA     2020 and will be disabled if I proceed with installation. Someone indicated the voice needs to be updated. I need to know how to do that.

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Re: Crashes in Word and Outlook

Luke Robinett
 

I also have difficulties with Outlook, but specifically the calendar. When in day  view NVDA will frequently crash when using control tab or control shift tab to move between the calendar view and the arrows that go to the previous or next day. I would say this happens one out of three times and specifically when focus lands in the calendar view. Windows 10 professional, latest version of NVDA and office 365

On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:

I get the same issues with Microsoft Word but not on each every computer
I get the problem on my Lenovo laptop but not on a desktop with the same apps installed in the same add-ons
That I’m using office 2010
On both machines


On 25 Jun 2020, at 8:36 am, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


As well as restarting with add-ons disabled, you might be interested in trying the new Beta.  We've made some improvements there in general, i'm not sure about your exact Outlook issue:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-2beta2/

If you can still replicate the issues with 2020.2 beta 2 and with add-ons disabled, if you could send us a log, at debug level, that would really help narrow down what is happening:

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on ""Log level""
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to ""Debug""
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to ""Restart with add-ons disabled""
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.og (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened."

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:50 AM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
Hello,
Are you getting the same symptoms when starting NVDA without any addons?
And also please make sure you disable in NVDA settings/Advance Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available.


Cheers,
  Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Miele
Sent: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2020 21:07
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Crashes in Word and Outlook

Folks:


I'm new to this list, but I've been using NVDA as my exclusive Windows screen reader for about 8 years.


I'm in a new work environment where I practically live in outlook, and
I'm finding that I experience frequent freezes when composing emails,
particularly when highlighting or deleting. The screen reader goes
silent and doesn't come back, even if I wait a very long time.


The only way to recover is to go to the desktop with Windows+M and
restart NVDA with ctrl+alt+N. NVDA almost always restarts after a 20-30
second delay with an error sound concurrent with the NVDA startup sound.


When I return to Outlook the email I was composing is *sometimes* still
there, but it is frequently gon -- disappeared from the world without a
trace in Drafts or Trash.


This can happen as frequently as every few minutes, or sometimes goes
for hours without happening. I'm unable to pin it to any particular
situation or constellation of other concurrent activities.


I experience a similar problem in MS Word, also while highlighting or
deleting. Again, the file is sometimes there when I restart NVDA, but it
is just as likely to be recovered from the last time I saved it...


Needless to say, this is extremely frustrating and is terrible for my
productivity and mental well being.


I am using Version 2020.1, but this problem was present and even worse
in prior versions. In the current version I'm usually able to restart
NVDA from the desktop with the keyboard shortcut. In prior versions the
only way to recover was to restart my computer.


I have searched the web and the archive of this list to see if others
have experienced this, but I'm coming up mostly empty. From the issues
list on Github, it looks like this has happened to other folks in much
older versions, but it's marked as closed.


Any insights or help with this will be most gratefully appreciated.


Best!


--JAMM










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Minor Problem: NVDA Closing/Exit Sounds Not Being Heard When Exiting NVDA

Lino Morales
 

David when I run NVDA I have this problem too.

On 6/28/2020 11:43 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Admittedly, this is not a major problem but I've recently noticed that when I press ctrl+Q I no longer hear the wav file that is normally heard when exiting or closing NVDA. The wav file does exist in the same folder as the startup file and when I open the file it does play in my default media player. I thought I remember seeing some recent discussions about this on this list but I could not locate the relevant thread when searching the archives. Has anyone else experienced this and is there a known fix? I did install the 2020.2 beta 2 release but the problem persists.


Re: Code Factory & NVDA 2020

E.T.
 

Greg,
Ok now that I found the source where I bought the add on, I looked around on the site but did not see anything for drivers. I can contact them but who knows how long that will take. Would the driver be in the add on file?

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On 6/28/2020 3:38 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
It is not the voice that needs to be updated. You need to update the driver for the voices. You should be able to find the updated driver from the code factory website or from where you bought the voices.
Greg Wocher

On Jun 27, 2020, at 6:21 PM, E.T. via groups.io <ancient.aliens=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Let me see if I can clarify this some.

I have a Vovalizer voice from Code Factory. It is incompatible with NVDA 2020 and will be disabled if I proceed with installation. Someone indicated the voice needs to be updated. I need to know how to do that.

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On 6/27/2020 10:37 AM, mattias wrote:
What do you talk about?
Skickades från E-post <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> för Windows 10
*Från: *E.T. via groups.io <mailto:ancient.aliens=icloud.com@groups.io>
*Skickat: *den 27 juni 2020 18:47
*Till: *NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Ämne: *[nvda] Code Factory & NVDA 2020
Ok I wish to take care of this one. How do I update my purchased
Samantha voice so it works with the NVDA 2020 build? Once I do this, I
can check off more to-do tasks. Thanks.
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Re: Minor Problem: NVDA Closing/Exit Sounds Not Being Heard When Exiting NVDA

David Goldfield
 

Vlad, as I do have the Acapela voices installed this certainly gives me a clue as far as what to look for. If I find that the Acapela driver is causing this to occur I will certainly write to them about it. Thanks for the tip as I don't think it would have occurred to me to disable the addon to see if that addresses the issue.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/28/2020 12:27 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:

Hello,

 

I used to have this exact problem in conjunction with the Acapela for NVDA add-on. As soon as I uninstalled it, the wave file began to be heard again. I sent this description to the Acapela team, but of course, attentive and caring as they are, I never heard back from them. I hope this may help you at least a little bit.

 

Best,

 

Vlad.


Re: Minor Problem: NVDA Closing/Exit Sounds Not Being Heard When Exiting NVDA

David Goldfield
 

Vlad, you are absolutely right.

Once I disabled the Acapela driver and restarted NVDA the exit sounds work. Enabling the driver then stops the sound from being played.

It's worth noting that I am running v1.6.2 of the driver and I believe that there is a 1.6.3 now available from the Acapela Web site. I will download this and see if they have addressed the issue.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/28/2020 12:29 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Vlad, as I do have the Acapela voices installed this certainly gives me a clue as far as what to look for. If I find that the Acapela driver is causing this to occur I will certainly write to them about it. Thanks for the tip as I don't think it would have occurred to me to disable the addon to see if that addresses the issue.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/28/2020 12:27 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:

Hello,

 

I used to have this exact problem in conjunction with the Acapela for NVDA add-on. As soon as I uninstalled it, the wave file began to be heard again. I sent this description to the Acapela team, but of course, attentive and caring as they are, I never heard back from them. I hope this may help you at least a little bit.

 

Best,

 

Vlad.


Re: Minor Problem: NVDA Closing/Exit Sounds Not Being Heard When Exiting NVDA

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello,

 

I used to have this exact problem in conjunction with the Acapela for NVDA add-on. As soon as I uninstalled it, the wave file began to be heard again. I sent this description to the Acapela team, but of course, attentive and caring as they are, I never heard back from them. I hope this may help you at least a little bit.

 

Best,

 

Vlad.


Minor Problem: NVDA Closing/Exit Sounds Not Being Heard When Exiting NVDA

David Goldfield
 

Admittedly, this is not a major problem but I've recently noticed that when I press ctrl+Q I no longer hear the wav file that is normally heard when exiting or closing NVDA. The wav file does exist in the same folder as the startup file and when I open the file it does play in my default media player. I thought I remember seeing some recent discussions about this on this list but I could not locate the relevant thread when searching the archives. Has anyone else experienced this and is there a known fix? I did install the 2020.2 beta 2 release but the problem persists.


--
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


Excel 2016 Problem

Ramesh Patil
 


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Ramesh Patil <ramesh.patil1989@...>
Date: Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 5:44 PM
Subject: Excel 2016 Problem
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>


Hello,

I am facing problem in Excel 2016. When i press F2 NVDA always speaks
Edit Item  edit  an edit control  each time for eace cell after
pressing F2. I dont want this. Instead of this full sentence  NVDA
will say only Edit it is also ok. I have tried with replace above line
in dictionary but it is not working.

Please help
Thanks

Ramesh Patil


Re: Code Factory & NVDA 2020

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
It is not the voice that needs to be updated. You need to update the driver for the voices. You should be able to find the updated driver from the code factory website or from where you bought the voices.

Greg Wocher

On Jun 27, 2020, at 6:21 PM, E.T. via groups.io <ancient.aliens=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Let me see if I can clarify this some.

I have a Vovalizer voice from Code Factory. It is incompatible with NVDA 2020 and will be disabled if I proceed with installation. Someone indicated the voice needs to be updated. I need to know how to do that.

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What do you talk about?
Skickades från E-post <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> för Windows 10
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*Ämne: *[nvda] Code Factory & NVDA 2020
Ok I wish to take care of this one. How do I update my purchased
Samantha voice so it works with the NVDA 2020 build? Once I do this, I
can check off more to-do tasks. Thanks.
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Re: Code Factory & NVDA 2020

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Perhaps if you contact Codefactory and explain what software you have and what you want it to run on, they will be able to tell you what you need to do and what, if any,  costs are involved in getting it working.

 

https://codefactoryglobal.com/contact-us/

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: E.T. via groups.io
Sent: 27 June 2020 23:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory & NVDA 2020

 

    Let me see if I can clarify this some.

 

    I have a Vovalizer voice from Code Factory. It is incompatible with

NVDA    2020 and will be disabled if I proceed with installation. Someone

indicated the voice needs to be updated. I need to know how to do that.

 

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On 6/27/2020 10:37 AM, mattias wrote:

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>

> Skickades från E-post <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>

> för Windows 10

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> *Från: *E.T. via groups.io <mailto:ancient.aliens@...>

> *Skickat: *den 27 juni 2020 18:47

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> *Ämne: *[nvda] Code Factory & NVDA 2020

>

>      Ok I wish to take care of this one. How do I update my purchased

>

> Samantha voice so it works with the NVDA 2020 build? Once I do this, I

>

> can check off more to-do tasks. Thanks.

>

>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...

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Re: Recovering an Acapela activation key from unusable computer how’s it done?

Chris
 

It should deactivate itself after 30 days anyway

 

 

 

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 28 June 2020 03:53
To: NVDA English EMail List
Subject: [nvda] Recovering an Acapela activation key from unusable computer how’s it done?

 

For those of you who already have NVDA’s Acapela voices, if God forbid I were to be in this situation, but it’s always good to know just in case: how would one recover an activation key (out of the 3 given when purchasing), if the computer on which the license is activated, suddenly dies, without loosin the key in the process, thus being unable to deactivate that machine’s key, through NVDA/Acapela voices/License Management? If I let that key go, when I get the computer repaired and returned back to me and upon activating Acapela again on that same machine especially if he computer needs to be reformatted), I’d e using up Activation Key #2; hence having one left for emmergencies! Is there a website I could go to, and manage my activation keys without depending on the machine on which the key is activated, to deactivate it? I wouldn’t want to loos any activations unnecessarily. Thanks for info.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

 


Re: Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Arlene
 

Oh that’s awful!   How does Chrome work with facebook? I’m using the Ipad I share with my room mate. I find facebook is easier with the I pad.  I’ve never tried it on windows ten yet. That’s why I’m asking how well does it work with either Microsoft edge or Chrome?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Governor staten
Sent: June 27, 2020 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my comment, it puts me in the reactions area.

 

 

 

On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off.  Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:

Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.



 

 


Re: Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Arlene
 

Yes, facebook did quite well on IE. I used it on my old windows 7 box.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: June 27, 2020 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

Also, I've seen the comment on some lists that Internet Explorer works

better with the Face Book site.  I don't know if that’s all the varieties of

the site but it may solve your problem.  While I generally recommend not to

use IE11, in this case, it may be the thing to do.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Governor staten

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:52 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

 

 

It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my

comment, it puts me in the reactions area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween

browse mode and focus mode off.  Just one more example of too much

automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

 

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

Hi from me,

 

 

You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google

Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions

toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to

the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is

thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the

NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the

automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just

to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can

use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area

and the comments area.

 

 

Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest

stable).

 

 

Dejan

 

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:

Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus

issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m

using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had

focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best

to describe.

 

 

When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to

heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I

press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press

escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.

 

 

I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the

reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the

page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the

least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Gene
 

Also, I've seen the comment on some lists that Internet Explorer works better with the Face Book site. I don't know if that’s all the varieties of the site but it may solve your problem. While I generally recommend not to use IE11, in this case, it may be the thing to do.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox



It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my comment, it puts me in the reactions area.












On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:
You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off. Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.


Re: Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Gene
 

Are you already in forms mode and have you tabbed to where you want to be? If you have first moved there in browse mode, then pressed enter. you may be in the wrong place because the browse mode buffer may not be lining up with the actual page, where you are when you switch to browse mode.

My suggestions may not help. Some pages don't work properly no matter what you do, but what I'm suggesting may make some pages useful.

You might also achieve success by trying another browser and screen-reader.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox



It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my comment, it puts me in the reactions area.












On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:
You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off. Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.