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locked Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 is now available, mostly bringing support for Version 2004 Cortana for non-English speakers.

 

IMPORTANT: version 20.07 requires Windows 10 Version 1909 (November 2019 Update/build 18363). If you need to use this add-on on Version 1903 or earlier, version 20.06.2 can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/20.06/wintenApps-20.06.2.nvda-addon

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Why has this not been fixed

Gene
 

It's how your specific synthesizer says those things. Mine doesn't.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: brice Mijares
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 12:35 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Why has this not been fixed

Why does NVDA still say Cuban Peso for cup when cup is mentioned in a
sentence? Like in the following,

Mr. Coffee 12-cup programmable coffee maker in black/chrome.

Also Mariana islands is echoed for MP3 sometimes. Perplexing for me!


Re: Why has this not been fixed

Jackie
 

Bryce, that is more a function of the synthesizer you're using as
opposed to NVDA itself. Mine says 12 cup. On the other hand, mine
trips on other things that are equally annoying.

On 7/1/20, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:
Why does NVDA still say Cuban Peso for cup when cup is mentioned in a
sentence? Like in the following,

Mr. Coffee 12-cup programmable coffee maker in black/chrome.

Also Mariana islands is echoed for MP3 sometimes. Perplexing for me!




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Why has this not been fixed

brice Mijares
 

Why does NVDA still say Cuban Peso for cup when cup is mentioned in a sentence? Like in the following,

Mr. Coffee 12-cup programmable coffee maker in black/chrome.

Also Mariana islands is echoed for MP3 sometimes. Perplexing for me!


Re: New NVDA sounds

 

the link is already dead. if someone re upload the archive I will be grateful.

 

thankks


Question about synthesizers, was, Re: [nvda] Question about mail app

Gene
 

Evidently, a response was made to the wrong thread. I've changed the subject line, though I may not have punctuated the change correctly.

Regarding the question, there is an add-on that may do what you want. See this page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 9:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about mail app


I am confused. what do these last two post have to do with the mail app?

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Mullins
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about mail app


Hi

Use the audio ring, set which object you want to affect using NVDA+Ctrl+left/right arrow, in this case voice, then NVDA+Control+up/down arrow to select a setting.,



Cheers

Chris





From: E.T. via groups.io
Sent: 01 July 2020 01:28
To: NVDA
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about mail app





My license was reset. Now that I have Samantha back, and added a

second voice, is there a shortcut to switch between them? I looked in

the list of commands. Thanks.



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Hello,
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sometimes it takes a few to actually close the app. Sometimes you will
get that message if the program did not completely close. You can close
it by force quitting the app.
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Hello,
When I opened mail, it said mail has no windows.
What does it mean? How can I fix it?
Thanks,
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Re: Question about synthesizers, was, Re: [nvda] Question about mail app

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I am confused. what do these last two post have to do with the mail app?

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about mail app

Hi

Use the audio ring, set which object you want to affect using NVDA+Ctrl+left/right arrow, in this case voice, then NVDA+Control+up/down arrow to select a setting.,  

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: E.T. via groups.io
Sent: 01 July 2020 01:28
To: NVDA
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about mail app

 

    My license was reset. Now that I have Samantha back, and added a

second voice, is there a  shortcut to switch between them? I looked in

the list of commands. Thanks.

 

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> Hello,

> Try using command plus 0 to bring back the message viewer. If you

> accidentally use command plus w instead of command plus q to quit it

> will close the windows and you will get that message. Its either this or

> sometimes it takes a few to actually close the app. Sometimes you will

> get that message if the program did not completely close. You can close

> it by force quitting the app.

>

> Greg Wocher

>

>

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>> Hello,

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Re: Free .RTF file creater

Hettie
 

Hi Tony

Thanks for reminding me of Ninite as I now have a nvda accessable AVG virus detector again!


Hettie

On 2020/06/29 8:28 pm, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi Hettie,


You can go to http://www.ninite.com and download either open office, or libre office.  Both have word processors, are free of charge and work with NVDA.

If you are just looking for a free stand alone word processor, you can get one from http://www.jarte.com

Hope this helps.


Tony


On 6/29/2020 9:47 AM, Hettie wrote:
I don't need all the functions of MS-Word or Excel.  are there free substitutes apps compatible with NVDA I can download?

Thanks



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Re: Free .RTF file creater

Hettie
 

Hi Brian

I tried SoftMaker Free Officebut find it incompatible with NVDA.

LibreOffice Writerseems to be the right one as it can open and save MS-Office files. I also rejoice in the old-fashioned menu structure, no ribbons and stuff I don't need.

Thanks also for all the informative suggestions from the Group.


Hettie



will work.  I also suspect that will do just fine, but

On 2020/06/29 3:54 pm, Brian Vogel wrote:
LibreOffice Writer will work.  I also suspect that SoftMaker Free Office will do just fine, but have not done any accessibility testing with it (if anyone else knows for sure, please share).  I don't know of a single word processor that isn't capable of handling RTF format.
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Re: Question about synthesizers, was, Re: [nvda] Question about mail app

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Use the audio ring, set which object you want to affect using NVDA+Ctrl+left/right arrow, in this case voice, then NVDA+Control+up/down arrow to select a setting.,  

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: E.T. via groups.io
Sent: 01 July 2020 01:28
To: NVDA
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about mail app

 

    My license was reset. Now that I have Samantha back, and added a

second voice, is there a  shortcut to switch between them? I looked in

the list of commands. Thanks.

 

From E.T.'s Keyboard...

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On 6/29/2020 7:18 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:

> Hello,

> Try using command plus 0 to bring back the message viewer. If you

> accidentally use command plus w instead of command plus q to quit it

> will close the windows and you will get that message. Its either this or

> sometimes it takes a few to actually close the app. Sometimes you will

> get that message if the program did not completely close. You can close

> it by force quitting the app.

>

> Greg Wocher

>

>

>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Rena <onyxfranchi@...

>> <mailto:onyxfranchi@...>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hello,

>> When I opened mail, it said mail has no windows.

>> What does it mean? How can I fix it?

>> Thanks,

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Re: Free .RTF file creater

Kenny Nead <knead54@...>
 

Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater

One way is to use the Start menu search. Type hjpad no spaces, as I did, and you will find the program in the list of results. It will probably be the only one.
Or you can open the JAWS menu, but how you get to it may vary depending on the version of windows. Run HJPad is in the menu.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenny Nead
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater



How do you find H J Pad?





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Goldfield
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater





Yes, the program which was supplied with JAWS and which is still
preinstalled with JAWS is called HJPad. It is pretty much Wordpad but with a
spell checker. As far as I know there is no way to acquire HJPad as a
standalone program.

Jarte is free and comes with a spell checker along with other features.

Jarte Plus is the premium version of Jarte which contains even more
features. I believe that Jarte Plus only costs $20.00.





David Goldfield,Blindness Assistive Technology SpecialistJAWS Certified,
2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/29/2020 2:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:



Maybe that's where I'm confused. I remember both. Lol! So if you want a
simple lite flexible RTF reader/editor get jarte.

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On 29 Jun 2020, at 11:32, Gene wrote:



Wordpad never had a spell checker and I'm going back to Windows 95. There is
a utility JAWS uses for training called JAWS pad which is like the old menu
Wordppad and does have a spell checker.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 1:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater

How odd, I remember word pad had a spell checker at one time, but that was
way back in 2005 when I was using a different system. I'm used to the ribbon
now, but still love jarte as it can d a lot I wish could be done natively in
windows.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to
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eBooks there.

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On 29 Jun 2020, at 11:20, Gene wrote:

Maybe, maybe not. First. Wordpad uses ribbons, starting with the Windows 7
version. The person may not be comfortable using ribbons.

Second, Wordpad is a really bare bones word processor, not even a spell
checker.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater

You actually have one on your computer. It's called wordpad. Go to run and
type "wordpad" sand quotes, and there you go, it should work out for you.

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On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:47, Hettie wrote:

I don't need all the functions of MS-Word or Excel. are there free
substitutes apps compatible with NVDA I can download?

Thanks

Hettie

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Re: Free .RTF file creater

Gene
 

One way is to use the Start menu search. Type hjpad no spaces, as I did, and you will find the program in the list of results. It will probably be the only one.
Or you can open the JAWS menu, but how you get to it may vary depending on the version of windows. Run HJPad is in the menu.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenny Nead
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater



How do you find H J Pad?





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater





Yes, the program which was supplied with JAWS and which is still preinstalled with JAWS is called HJPad. It is pretty much Wordpad but with a spell checker. As far as I know there is no way to acquire HJPad as a standalone program.

Jarte is free and comes with a spell checker along with other features.

Jarte Plus is the premium version of Jarte which contains even more features. I believe that Jarte Plus only costs $20.00.





David Goldfield,Blindness Assistive Technology SpecialistJAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/29/2020 2:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:



Maybe that's where I'm confused. I remember both. Lol! So if you want a simple lite flexible RTF reader/editor get jarte.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2020, at 11:32, Gene wrote:



Wordpad never had a spell checker and I'm going back to Windows 95. There is a utility JAWS uses for training called JAWS pad which is like the old menu Wordppad and does have a spell checker.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 1:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater

How odd, I remember word pad had a spell checker at one time, but that was way back in 2005 when I was using a different system. I'm used to the ribbon now, but still love jarte as it can d a lot I wish could be done natively in windows.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2020, at 11:20, Gene wrote:

Maybe, maybe not. First. Wordpad uses ribbons, starting with the Windows 7 version. The person may not be comfortable using ribbons.

Second, Wordpad is a really bare bones word processor, not even a spell checker.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater

You actually have one on your computer. It's called wordpad. Go to run and type "wordpad" sand quotes, and there you go, it should work out for you.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:47, Hettie wrote:

I don't need all the functions of MS-Word or Excel. are there free substitutes apps compatible with NVDA I can download?

Thanks

Hettie

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Re: Question about synthesizers, was, Re: [nvda] Question about mail app

E.T.
 

My license was reset. Now that I have Samantha back, and added a second voice, is there a shortcut to switch between them? I looked in the list of commands. Thanks.

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On 6/29/2020 7:18 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
Try using command plus 0 to bring back the message viewer. If you accidentally use command plus w instead of command plus q to quit it will close the windows and you will get that message. Its either this or sometimes it takes a few to actually close the app. Sometimes you will get that message if the program did not completely close. You can close it by force quitting the app.
Greg Wocher

On Jun 29, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Rena <onyxfranchi@... <mailto:onyxfranchi@...>> wrote:

Hello,
When I opened mail, it said mail has no windows.
What does it mean? How can I fix it?
Thanks,
Rena

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Re: Can different versions MS-Office, or just Outlook, be installed side-by-side on the same computer

 

Oops, skipped the vital words, "different versions" in the new topic title, so they're there now.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Can different versions MS-Office, or just Outlook, be installed side-by-side on the same computer

 

Kenny,

          It would appear so, though I've never tried it.  See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/install-and-use-different-versions-of-office-on-the-same-pc-6ebb44ce-18a3-43f9-a187-b78c513788bf
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Free .RTF file creater

Cristóbal
 

Bleh… I think I’ll leave well enough alone.

Besides, a word processor and spreadsheet program still

Perform the same tasks at the end of the day. Not like I’ve heard of some killer must have new feature in 19 anyway.

Thanks,

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater

 

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 02:19 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

Can one upgrade from 16 to 19 or would it be too much of a hassle and a simple reinstall  be better?

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Cristóbal, I can't really answer that question since I've never even attempted an in-place upgrade for Office, though it appears that it is not possible in any meaningful sense.  See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/how-do-i-upgrade-office-ee68f6cf-422f-464a-82ec-385f65391350#bkmk_readytoinstall

When it comes to Microsoft Office, I tend to do the proverbial "nuke and pave," though if one is a heavy-duty Outlook user I can understand completely why one might not want to go that route.  But based on the above it seems you would use the same techniques as though you were trying to move from one machine to another with Outlook, first backing up your existing Outlook data stores, then recovering them into the newly installed Outlook.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Can different versions MS-Office, or just Outlook, be installed side-by-side on the same computer

Kenny Nead <knead54@...>
 

Hi Brian, I am curious about this while you guys are talking about it. Can you install the new copy of Outlook, on your computer, before you remove the old version? Have two copies of Outlook on your computer at the same time, before changing things to the new one.

Thanks,

Kenny Nead

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 4:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free .RTF file creater

 

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 02:19 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

Can one upgrade from 16 to 19 or would it be too much of a hassle and a simple reinstall  be better?

-
Cristóbal, I can't really answer that question since I've never even attempted an in-place upgrade for Office, though it appears that it is not possible in any meaningful sense.  See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/how-do-i-upgrade-office-ee68f6cf-422f-464a-82ec-385f65391350#bkmk_readytoinstall

When it comes to Microsoft Office, I tend to do the proverbial "nuke and pave," though if one is a heavy-duty Outlook user I can understand completely why one might not want to go that route.  But based on the above it seems you would use the same techniques as though you were trying to move from one machine to another with Outlook, first backing up your existing Outlook data stores, then recovering them into the newly installed Outlook.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Free .RTF file creater

 

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 02:19 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
Can one upgrade from 16 to 19 or would it be too much of a hassle and a simple reinstall  be better?
-
Cristóbal, I can't really answer that question since I've never even attempted an in-place upgrade for Office, though it appears that it is not possible in any meaningful sense.  See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/how-do-i-upgrade-office-ee68f6cf-422f-464a-82ec-385f65391350#bkmk_readytoinstall

When it comes to Microsoft Office, I tend to do the proverbial "nuke and pave," though if one is a heavy-duty Outlook user I can understand completely why one might not want to go that route.  But based on the above it seems you would use the same techniques as though you were trying to move from one machine to another with Outlook, first backing up your existing Outlook data stores, then recovering them into the newly installed Outlook.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: ccleaner research

 

Move this to the chat subgroup. Per group rules, this message shouldn't have gone to this list. But,

That's good you'll get to talk to them. Make sure you have your facts backed up by examples or reproducible bugs. I do this for a living and get paid very, very, well for it, as you can see.

If I had the power, I'd move this to the chat group. Let's continue there, not here.


ccleaner research

 

Hi.

I have been given an unexpected chance to talk to ccleaner directly as part of a servey I did a bit back.

The date for my interview is schedualed for monday 8 pm nz time.

Thats sunday at well us time at well I think its round 8am utc point is, I have an oppertunity to change this program.

Right now in my head I have at least 6 points on ccleaner free alone to talk about.

The first and not least is the long standing checkbox nvda readback on the main config panel.

If that could at least get sorted out that would be a huge step.

Next are the settings for healthcheck on the settings pannel they absolutely will not toggle without skipping with tab on nvda and I have to basically put narator in scan and hit a button.

Technically they have an alto and I think alt r keyboard shortcut but since options is allready alt o its just not doing it right.

3.  healthcheck and the add pains themselves.

While the add pains are not as big of a deal since they are html windows at least in the portable I want them gone.

They are also hidden by default.

Healthcheck is just well inaccessible.

The point is, unless piriform really think its needed I am not sure if its worth making it accessible or just make sure it never happens for us.

We don't need healthcheck generally. neither do we need the smart cleaning monitoring and the like.

And while it can be turned off in the portable well who knows.

4.  The installer and bundled software.

I know there are slim and portable installers about but to be honest with all the issues with avast and their software and all the issues round that which I won't even touch on, we as blind people really need either the installer to be more accessible or have some way to just not have that happen in the first place.

Heck if its cash, I'd be happy to pay a 10 us dollar flat rate so they can continue their program as is.

I also don't think portable versions should have any trial notices, after all, the reason people get themm is for running on portable stations.

That last point aint really important, if the buttons , checkboxes settings and stuff can get fixed then that will tie us over.

The installer needs to get addressed to, healthcheck is its own animal and I am not sure how to approach it.

Bar defragler, I have not used speccy or recuva enough to see how accessible they truely are.

The main windows of both weren't but I haven't used them enough to say what doesn't work so I can't mention those at all.

Anyway, everyone can email me off list in fact unless mods think it usefull to have it on here at least everyone on nvda can email me off list.

If you are on atig, or atug then you can probably talk on there.

If this goes to win10 you will have to email mee off list as I appear to have burnt my bridges right now.

I may try to get myself back in later but as it is I have other things more important than actually trying to get back in win10 at least to post.

Anyway I will give you all this week till monday my time sunday us time at 3pm.

Thats when I finnish a augmented reality device test.

That should give me some time to put all my notes together before I have dinner and find out how it works.

Thanks in advance.

Lets hope this all works out for us.

Shaun