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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Brian Vogel

#75175

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.

And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version of an operating system, Windows or otherwise. There are times when backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Brian Vogel

#75174

Zahra,

You have soon got to start making notes for yourself, on all of this, as it has been discussed repeatedly. You have apparently finally dumped Windows XP, but are trying to cling to older versions of NVDA, which will not work over the long term as Windows 10 continues to mature. I know you have strong preferences for a specific synthesizer, but eventually you are going to have to move along unless it does, which is unlikely.

If you want to use Windows 10 App Essentials on earlier than Windows 10, Version 1909, Joseph has already stated, in the very message that started this topic, that you must stick with Windows 10 App Essentials version 20.06.2 and given the direct link to where that can be downloaded.
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Joseph Lee

#75173

Hi,
Newer add-on releases do not support NVDA 2017.3. This has been the policy for years: unless needed, Windows 10 App Essentials supports current and immediate past stable versions of NVDA. As of this post, Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 (the latest stable) supports NVDA 2019.3, 2020.1, 2020.2 beta and alpha snapshots. A version scheduled for fall will drop support for 2019.3 following the above policy, as NVDA 2020.2 would have been released to everyone then. The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
Cheers,
Joseph

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

hi joseph.
what is your recommendation for me that i wish to use 2017.3?
do you recommend me that if i can access one system with windows ten, (version 1903), i only install 2017.3 version of nvda?
or install it with your addon version 17.09?
do newer versions of your addon beyond 17.09 support nvda 2017.3?

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Add-on 17.09 isn't optimized for newer Windows 10 releases such as 
April
2018 Update. Although that add-on release will read various things on 
Windows 10, it won't recognize certain things added in newer Windows 
10 releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires 
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your support as always.
does 2017.3 reads windows ten settings, especially combo boxes and 
radio buttons?
i asked because from the link which brian sent here, i studied all 
changes for all versions of your addon and realized that you included 
support for various windows ten settings in different versions of 
windows ten app essential.
and, i realized that if i can find a system with windows ten, the last 
version of your addon that i can use is addon version 17.09.

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To answer the second question, yes 2017.3 works with Windows 10. Note 
that as far as the add-on is concerned, WinTenApps does not support
2017.3 To answer Peter's question (and to expand on Brian's answer):
Windows 10 App Essentials is an add-on that improves accessibility 
and usability of controls found in Windows 10, along with improving 
usability of some built-in apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store 
and others. The add-on sometimes serves as an extended beta testing 
facility where features under consideration for inclusion in NVDA are 
tested in public e.g. support for announcing hardware keyboard input 
suggestions was first made available on the add-on, then included in 
NVDA in late 2018.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, 
requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with 
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page, 
Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the 
NVDA Community Add-ons website ( 
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

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Sentiment Took Hold in the United States ( 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-
u
s
.html
) , September 23, 2019

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Switching Voices

E.T.

#75172

I may have missed any responses, been fielding too many emails elsewhere.

   I installed two Vocalizer voices from Code Factory and wonder if there is a shortcut to switching between them on the fly? Also one voice has an update, how would I get it? Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Freedom of Speech Carries With
It Implicit Responsibility.

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

zahra

#75171

hi joseph.
what is your recommendation for me that i wish to use 2017.3?
do you recommend me that if i can access one system with windows ten,
(version 1903), i only install 2017.3 version of nvda?
or install it with your addon version 17.09?
do newer versions of your addon beyond 17.09 support nvda 2017.3?

Show quoted text

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Add-on 17.09 isn't optimized for newer Windows 10 releases such as April
2018 Update. Although that add-on release will read various things on
Windows 10, it won't recognize certain things added in newer Windows 10
releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your support as always.
does 2017.3 reads windows ten settings, especially combo boxes and radio
buttons?
i asked because from the link which brian sent here, i studied all changes
for all versions of your addon and realized that you included support for
various windows ten settings in different versions of windows ten app
essential.
and, i realized that if i can find a system with windows ten, the last
version of your addon that i can use is addon version 17.09.

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To answer the second question, yes 2017.3 works with Windows 10. Note
that as far as the add-on is concerned, WinTenApps does not support
2017.3 To answer Peter's question (and to expand on Brian's answer):
Windows 10 App Essentials is an add-on that improves accessibility and
usability of controls found in Windows 10, along with improving
usability of some built-in apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store
and others. The add-on sometimes serves as an extended beta testing
facility where features under consideration for inclusion in NVDA are
tested in public e.g. support for announcing hardware keyboard input
suggestions was first made available on the add-on, then included in NVDA
in late 2018.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:


What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page,
Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the
NVDA Community Add-ons website (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

--

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*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-u
s
.html
) , September 23, 2019




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

-- 
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: New NVDA sounds

Sarah k Alawami

#75170

Try with another player. Winamp hates short wave files of under 1 second or sometimes 2. This has ben a bug for years now.

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On 2 Jul 2020, at 8:38, Bob Jutzi wrote:

Sorry if this is something I missed but after downloading and extracting the zip, I'm not getting any audio when using Winamp to play one of these files.

On 7/2/2020 11:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM, Gene wrote:

And since the extracted files are just plain wave files, you can listen to
all of them first.

Yep. And if you do end up picking and choosing some of them, but not others, once you've got what you want copied over into C:\program files (x86)\nvda\waves as replacements, you'd be wise to ZIP up that folder so that you have it to conveniently unzip at a later date on a later install of NVDA that has the original sounds.

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Brian Vogel

#75169

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 12:57 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Another way to view add-on documentation (provided that the add-on author did provide it in the right format and in the right location) is Add-ons Manager/Add-on help button.

It's always a good thing when more than one proverbial road leads to Rome!

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Re: blank lines add on.

Gene

#75168

Wy not just use read to end?  You won't hear any blank lines then.

Gene

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Sue J. Ward
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 11:03 AM
To: nvda groups
Subject: [nvda] blank lines add on.

 Hello. Does anyone know if there is an addon where you can turn off
the feature where if NVDA says blank if there is a blank line or a
carriage return it says blank and would like to turn it off cause when
am reading emails I come to a lot of blank lines or returns in an email
and keep on hearing: blank, blank and it kind of drives me crazy so
would like if it all possible to turn off this feature with in the add
on if the add on is in the works maybe it might work with nvda 2010.1
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Brian Vogel

#75167

Let's clean up that huge run-on sentence from my last message, that I failed to break up before hitting send. What follows should be both far more readable and make more sense.

It is my opinion that every NVDA user should, as a matter of practice, install the Add-ons documentation add-on. It makes access to the detailed documentation that now comes packaged with the majority of NVDA Add-ons very quick and easy. You'll often find the answers to your questions about add-ons very promptly by taking a look at their documentation rather than by asking here and waiting for someone to respond. I hasten to add that those questions are entirely appropriate, and welcome, but if speed is of the essence, you have an option much more closely at hand and under your own control.

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Joseph Lee

#75166

Hi,

Another way to view add-on documentation (provided that the add-on author did provide it in the right format and in the right location) is Add-ons Manager/Add-on help button.

Cheers,

Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:37 AM, zahra wrote:

thanks so much brian.

You're welcome.

As a general practice, though, the first thing anyone who wants to know about a given official add-on does would be to go to the NVDA Community Add-ons website and consult the page for the add-on they want to know about. Most (though not all) are given very reasonable overview documentation there.

In addition, it is my opinion that every NVDA user should, as a matter of practice, install the Add-ons documentation add-on. It makes access to the detailed documentation that now comes packaged with the majority of NVDA Add-ons very quick and easy to access and you'll often find the answers to your questions about add-ons much more quickly by taking a quick look at their documentation than by asking here and waiting for someone to respond (and I hasten to add that those questions are entirely appropriate, and welcome, but if speed is of the essence, you have options much more closely at hand and under your own control).

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Brian Vogel

#75165

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:37 AM, zahra wrote:

thanks so much brian.

You're welcome.

As a general practice, though, the first thing anyone who wants to know about a given official add-on does would be to go to the NVDA Community Add-ons website and consult the page for the add-on they want to know about. Most (though not all) are given very reasonable overview documentation there.

In addition, it is my opinion that every NVDA user should, as a matter of practice, install the Add-ons documentation add-on. It makes access to the detailed documentation that now comes packaged with the majority of NVDA Add-ons very quick and easy to access and you'll often find the answers to your questions about add-ons much more quickly by taking a quick look at their documentation than by asking here and waiting for someone to respond (and I hasten to add that those questions are entirely appropriate, and welcome, but if speed is of the essence, you have options much more closely at hand and under your own control).

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~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Joseph Lee

#75164

Hi,
Add-on 17.09 isn't optimized for newer Windows 10 releases such as April 2018 Update. Although that add-on release will read various things on Windows 10, it won't recognize certain things added in newer Windows 10 releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your support as always.
does 2017.3 reads windows ten settings, especially combo boxes and radio buttons?
i asked because from the link which brian sent here, i studied all changes for all versions of your addon and realized that you included support for various windows ten settings in different versions of windows ten app essential.
and, i realized that if i can find a system with windows ten, the last version of your addon that i can use is addon version 17.09.

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To answer the second question, yes 2017.3 works with Windows 10. Note 
that as far as the add-on is concerned, WinTenApps does not support 
2017.3 To answer Peter's question (and to expand on Brian's answer): 
Windows 10 App Essentials is an add-on that improves accessibility and 
usability of controls found in Windows 10, along with improving 
usability of some built-in apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store 
and others. The add-on sometimes serves as an extended beta testing 
facility where features under consideration for inclusion in NVDA are 
tested in public e.g. support for announcing hardware keyboard input 
suggestions was first made available on the add-on, then included in NVDA in late 2018.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires 
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with 
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page, 
Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the 
NVDA Community Add-ons website ( 
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

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~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine 
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States ( 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-u
s
.html
) , September 23, 2019

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Brian Vogel

#75163

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

For some reason I am not able to get the Windows 10 App Essentials update to download. It seems to have been stuck on it for well over an hour. How can I find out what is going on?

Betsy,

You probably can't. I have hit occasions where this has occurred, whether I'm trying to download directly from the community add-ons page or add-on updater is trying to fetch an update.

My normal approach is to cancel and just try again later, usually several hours later or the next day.

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

zahra

#75162

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your support as always.
does 2017.3 reads windows ten settings, especially combo boxes and
radio buttons?
i asked because from the link which brian sent here, i studied all
changes for all versions of your addon
and realized that
you included support for various windows ten settings in different
versions of windows ten app essential.
and, i realized that if i can find a system with windows ten, the last
version of your addon that i can use is addon version 17.09.

Show quoted text

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To answer the second question, yes 2017.3 works with Windows 10. Note that
as far as the add-on is concerned, WinTenApps does not support 2017.3
To answer Peter's question (and to expand on Brian's answer): Windows 10 App
Essentials is an add-on that improves accessibility and usability of
controls found in Windows 10, along with improving usability of some
built-in apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store and others. The add-on
sometimes serves as an extended beta testing facility where features under
consideration for inclusion in NVDA are tested in public e.g. support for
announcing hardware keyboard input suggestions was first made available on
the add-on, then included in NVDA in late 2018.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:


What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page,
Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the
NVDA Community Add-ons website (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

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*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019




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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

-- 
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Issue with focus mode in some controls NVDA 2020.2 beta

Bruno Aníbal Prieto González

#75161

Hello!
I'm having the next issue with the latest NVDA beta. In some edit
fields, pressing left or right arrows at the beginning or end of the
box, NVDA moves to other controls. This happens to me in Microsoft
Teams for example, or in Microsoft Sway. With NVDA 2020.1 it doesn't
happen. Does something like this happen to anyone?

It also happens sometimes that when you move through UWP or Win32
controls, for example when you reach the music tree in iTunes, it
doesn't read, music tree, but it reads directly the name of the song.
In the Windows 10 mail application, sometimes it does not read that it
is a list where the senders of a mail appear, but it reads the mail
directly. Sometimes it reads it, sometimes it doesn't. In Microsoft
Edge, when passing through tabs, sometimes it doesn't read the name of
the tab, but it reads directly a control of that page, like a link.
These things didn't happen in NVDA 2020.1.

I'd like to know if anyone else has these issues or could try to
replay them so I can be more confident that it's not just my problem
and report it.

Regards

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Joseph Lee

#75160

Hi,
To answer the second question, yes 2017.3 works with Windows 10. Note that as far as the add-on is concerned, WinTenApps does not support 2017.3
To answer Peter's question (and to expand on Brian's answer): Windows 10 App Essentials is an add-on that improves accessibility and usability of controls found in Windows 10, along with improving usability of some built-in apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store and others. The add-on sometimes serves as an extended beta testing facility where features under consideration for inclusion in NVDA are tested in public e.g. support for announcing hardware keyboard input suggestions was first made available on the add-on, then included in NVDA in late 2018.
Cheers,
Joseph

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page, 
Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the 
NVDA Community Add-ons website ( 
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its 
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine 
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States ( 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

blank lines add on.

Sue J. Ward

#75159

Hello. Does anyone know if there is an addon where you can turn off the feature where if NVDA says blank if there is a blank line or a carriage return it says blank and would like to turn it off cause when am reading emails I come to a lot of blank lines or returns in an email and keep on hearing: blank, blank and it kind of drives me crazy so would like if it all possible to turn off this feature with in the add on if the add on is in the works maybe it might work with nvda 2010.1 onward. Thank you.
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Rosemarie Chavarria

#75158

To tell what version of windows you have, hit the windows logo key and type "winver" in the search box without the quotes and hit enter. You should hear the version of windows you're on.

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On 7/2/2020 9:00 AM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
For some reason I am not able to get the Windows 10 App Essentials update to download. It seems to have been stuck on it for well over an hour. How can I find out what is going on? I also do not know how to tell what version of Windows I have. I may have these steps written down but my Braille notetaker has crashed and is gone for repairs.


On 7/2/2020 11:37 AM, zahra wrote:
thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page, Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the NVDA
Community Add-ons website ( https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

-- 

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html 
) , September 23, 2019

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Betsy Grenevitch

#75157

For some reason I am not able to get the Windows 10 App Essentials update to download. It seems to have been stuck on it for well over an hour. How can I find out what is going on? I also do not know how to tell what version of Windows I have. I may have these steps written down but my Braille notetaker has crashed and is gone for repairs.

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On 7/2/2020 11:37 AM, zahra wrote:
thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page, Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the NVDA
Community Add-ons website ( https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876

Re: New NVDA sounds

Bob Jutzi

#75156

I can hear them now.  I missed them since I have my main audio sent to
my bluetooth audio receiver so turned it off for now.

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On 7/2/2020 11:38 AM, bob jutzi wrote:
Sorry if this is something I missed but after downloading and
extracting the zip, I'm not getting any audio when using Winamp to
play one of these files.

On 7/2/2020 11:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM, Gene wrote:

And since the extracted files are just plain wave files, you can
listen to
all of them first.Yep.  And if you do end up picking and choosing some of them, but not
others, once you've got what you want copied over into C:\program
files (x86)\nvda\waves as replacements, you'd be wise to ZIP up that
folder so that you have it to conveniently unzip at a later date on a
later install of NVDA that has the original sounds.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019