Date   

Gmail and Edge (Version 83.0.478.58)

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi,
I'm using Windows 10 (latest), Edge Version 83.0.478.58 and NVDA 2020.1.
When I open the Gmail site (standard mode) and create a new mail I have trouble  with the edit field for the message. I press enter on it and focus mode activates.
After a while it seems that speech and braille display are completely out of sync. They show different things and I'm not able to set the cursor to a specific line/letter to correct something. Restarting NVDA seems to help for a short time but then I'm running into this once more. I cannot reproduce it but it happens often.
Does anyone have this too?

Best
Denis

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Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


Re: Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

 

Hi,

Try (you need to use type cover or another keyboard for this):

  1. Open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. Scroll through categories until you arrive at Enhanced Touch Gestures (it should be one of the last items).
  3. Check if “enable touch” checkbox is checked.

Based on the description you gave us, it appears NVDA’s touch support routine isn’t recognizing some touch gestures properly. This might be caused by either touch support being turned off from NVDA (that’s what the above step was checking for), something going on with touchscreen hardware, or touchscreen controller driver. If it’s hardware or driver, I advise asking Microsoft to look into this (Surface Pro 7 was made by Microsoft).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

 

Hi all,

I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7.

It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode.

Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 

Best regards

Denis

 

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Denis Sariyannis
Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


Settings not copying to system profile

luke scholey
 

Hi all

When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909.
Thanks for any help
Luke


Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi all,
I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7.
It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode.
Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else.
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Best regards
Denis

--
Denis Sariyannis
Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

And this topic is now locked, too.   All essential information has been presented, and best practice advice offered.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?

 

This topic is now locked.   If individual members have feedback either in support of Mr. Cuppens' position, or against it, those should be sent to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Zara,


No offense but it's time to completely dump XP. It's been out of support since 2014. You've been told this repeatedly. Brian's right. Wy continue to cling to something that isn't supported anymore?


Rosemarie

On 7/2/2020 11:20 AM, zahra wrote:
i use windows xp.
and 2017.2 and 2017.3 versions of nvda, are the best versions
according to my needs.

On 7/2/20, Davy Cuppens <davycuppens@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear mods

I'd rather advise to close discussions here about very very outdated
software versions that are nolonger supported.

Who still works with xp or MS DOS 10? These topics bring up high mail
traffic with no purpose. Who works with ios5 or 6 on his iphone? I have
absolutely no problem with waiting some time for new updates. I do this as
well as I heard that f.e. ios 13 was unstable and buggy for voiceover.; But
there is really no reason to use NVDA versions that are 3 years outdated
folks.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Hi,
Actually, yes you will experience issues when using 2017.3 with Windows 10
Version 1903, as 2017.3 does not support changes introduced with Version
1903 (there are too many to list).
To reiterate my position on this (and hopefully this would be the final
time
I have to state this): as Brian (and many others) indicated, software has
finite lifetime. Windows 10, NVDA, and Windows 10 App Essentials follow
this
principle. I have no intention of making a newer add-on release work with
NVDA 2017.3, nor plan to create a version of NVDA 2017.3 that will support
new Windows 10 features (end of story, period).
Before I get off the stage, just a heads up: a future development snapshot
of Windows 10 App Essentials will drop support for NVDA 2019.3, but that
won't happen until 2020.2 release candidate comes out.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

yes,
for my desired voice preferences,
the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows
ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue?
also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to
some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the
vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not
make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version
of an operating system, Windows or otherwise. There are times when
backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should
never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any
operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is
truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how
much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali










locked Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?

 

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 02:14 PM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
I'd rather advise to close discussions here about very very outdated
software versions that are nolonger supported.
And you're not the only one, and your position has been noted.   A decision will be pending shortly, but as the list moderator I am in full support of your position.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?

 

i use windows xp.
and 2017.2 and 2017.3 versions of nvda, are the best versions
according to my needs.

On 7/2/20, Davy Cuppens <davycuppens@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear mods

I'd rather advise to close discussions here about very very outdated
software versions that are nolonger supported.

Who still works with xp or MS DOS 10? These topics bring up high mail
traffic with no purpose. Who works with ios5 or 6 on his iphone? I have
absolutely no problem with waiting some time for new updates. I do this as
well as I heard that f.e. ios 13 was unstable and buggy for voiceover.; But
there is really no reason to use NVDA versions that are 3 years outdated
folks.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Hi,
Actually, yes you will experience issues when using 2017.3 with Windows 10
Version 1903, as 2017.3 does not support changes introduced with Version
1903 (there are too many to list).
To reiterate my position on this (and hopefully this would be the final
time
I have to state this): as Brian (and many others) indicated, software has
finite lifetime. Windows 10, NVDA, and Windows 10 App Essentials follow
this
principle. I have no intention of making a newer add-on release work with
NVDA 2017.3, nor plan to create a version of NVDA 2017.3 that will support
new Windows 10 features (end of story, period).
Before I get off the stage, just a heads up: a future development snapshot
of Windows 10 App Essentials will drop support for NVDA 2019.3, but that
won't happen until 2020.2 release candidate comes out.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

yes,
for my desired voice preferences,
the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows
ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue?
also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:


The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to
some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the
vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not
make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version
of an operating system, Windows or otherwise. There are times when
backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should
never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any
operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is
truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how
much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali









--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Enhanced Touch Gestures 20.07 #addonrelease

 

Hello everyone,

 

Enhanced Touch Gestures 20.07 is now available. Notable changes include support for NVDA 2020.1 or later, a keyboard command to toggle touch interaction or touch passthrough (depending on NVDA version), and deprecation of coordinate announcement beep and other changes.

 

IMPORTANT: Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on is applicable if:

  • You have a touchscreen computer running Windows 8.1 or 10.
  • You have NVDA 2020.1 or later installed on this computer (will not work on portable copy).

 

Also, the following features from the add-on are deprecated and will be removed in an upcoming release:

  • Coordinate announcement beep (hear where your finger is when you move around the touchscreen with your finger)
  • Touch passthrough (temporarily turn off NVDA’s touch support for up to ten seconds)

 

In case of the latter, the command used to enable/disable touch passthrough (either a custom command, or starting with add-on 20.07, Control+Alt+NVDA+T) will toggle touch interaction in an upcoming add-on release.

 

As always the new version can be downloaded from community add-ons website or via Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?

Davy Cuppens
 

Dear mods

I'd rather advise to close discussions here about very very outdated
software versions that are nolonger supported.

Who still works with xp or MS DOS 10? These topics bring up high mail
traffic with no purpose. Who works with ios5 or 6 on his iphone? I have
absolutely no problem with waiting some time for new updates. I do this as
well as I heard that f.e. ios 13 was unstable and buggy for voiceover.; But
there is really no reason to use NVDA versions that are 3 years outdated
folks.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Hi,
Actually, yes you will experience issues when using 2017.3 with Windows 10
Version 1903, as 2017.3 does not support changes introduced with Version
1903 (there are too many to list).
To reiterate my position on this (and hopefully this would be the final time
I have to state this): as Brian (and many others) indicated, software has
finite lifetime. Windows 10, NVDA, and Windows 10 App Essentials follow this
principle. I have no intention of making a newer add-on release work with
NVDA 2017.3, nor plan to create a version of NVDA 2017.3 that will support
new Windows 10 features (end of story, period).
Before I get off the stage, just a heads up: a future development snapshot
of Windows 10 App Essentials will drop support for NVDA 2019.3, but that
won't happen until 2020.2 release candidate comes out.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

yes,
for my desired voice preferences,
the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows
ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue?
also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:


The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to
some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the
vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not
make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version
of an operating system, Windows or otherwise. There are times when
backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should
never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any
operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is
truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how
much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Zara,


You can't use 2017.1 on a new system like windows 10. It's time you accepted that fact and get out of the past.


Rosemarie

On 7/2/2020 10:50 AM, zahra wrote:
yes,
for my desired voice preferences,
the last version that i can use is 2017.3
if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any
major issue?
also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some
extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the vast
majority of open-source, software developers that they will not make any
attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version of an
operating system, Windows or otherwise.  There are times when backward
compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should never be expected,
ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is truly
futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how much one
might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019




locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

Hi,
Actually, yes you will experience issues when using 2017.3 with Windows 10 Version 1903, as 2017.3 does not support changes introduced with Version 1903 (there are too many to list).
To reiterate my position on this (and hopefully this would be the final time I have to state this): as Brian (and many others) indicated, software has finite lifetime. Windows 10, NVDA, and Windows 10 App Essentials follow this principle. I have no intention of making a newer add-on release work with NVDA 2017.3, nor plan to create a version of NVDA 2017.3 that will support new Windows 10 features (end of story, period).
Before I get off the stage, just a heads up: a future development snapshot of Windows 10 App Essentials will drop support for NVDA 2019.3, but that won't happen until 2020.2 release candidate comes out.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

yes,
for my desired voice preferences,
the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue?
also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:


The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to
some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the
vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not
make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version
of an operating system, Windows or otherwise. There are times when
backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should
never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is
truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how
much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:50 PM, zahra wrote:
if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any
major issue?
You can't stay on Windows 10, Version 1903, either.  It is the next to go out of support, later this year.

You really, really need to accept that learning to "go with the flow" is absolutely, positively necessary.  It's really not an option, nor is staying with any given version of Windows 10.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

yes,
for my desired voice preferences,
the last version that i can use is 2017.3
if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any
major issue?
also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:


The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some
extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the vast
majority of open-source, software developers that they will not make any
attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version of an
operating system, Windows or otherwise.  There are times when backward
compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should never be expected,
ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is truly
futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how much one
might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version of an operating system, Windows or otherwise.  There are times when backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

Zahra,

            You have soon got to start making notes for yourself, on all of this, as it has been discussed repeatedly.  You have apparently finally dumped Windows XP, but are trying to cling to older versions of NVDA, which will not work over the long term as Windows 10 continues to mature.  I know you have strong preferences for a specific synthesizer, but eventually you are going to have to move along unless it does, which is unlikely.

            If you want to use Windows 10 App Essentials on earlier than Windows 10, Version 1909, Joseph has already stated, in the very message that started this topic, that you must stick with Windows 10 App Essentials version 20.06.2 and given the direct link to where that can be downloaded.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

Hi,
Newer add-on releases do not support NVDA 2017.3. This has been the policy for years: unless needed, Windows 10 App Essentials supports current and immediate past stable versions of NVDA. As of this post, Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 (the latest stable) supports NVDA 2019.3, 2020.1, 2020.2 beta and alpha snapshots. A version scheduled for fall will drop support for 2019.3 following the above policy, as NVDA 2020.2 would have been released to everyone then. The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

hi joseph.
what is your recommendation for me that i wish to use 2017.3?
do you recommend me that if i can access one system with windows ten, (version 1903), i only install 2017.3 version of nvda?
or install it with your addon version 17.09?
do newer versions of your addon beyond 17.09 support nvda 2017.3?

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Add-on 17.09 isn't optimized for newer Windows 10 releases such as
April
2018 Update. Although that add-on release will read various things on
Windows 10, it won't recognize certain things added in newer Windows
10 releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your support as always.
does 2017.3 reads windows ten settings, especially combo boxes and
radio buttons?
i asked because from the link which brian sent here, i studied all
changes for all versions of your addon and realized that you included
support for various windows ten settings in different versions of
windows ten app essential.
and, i realized that if i can find a system with windows ten, the last
version of your addon that i can use is addon version 17.09.

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To answer the second question, yes 2017.3 works with Windows 10. Note
that as far as the add-on is concerned, WinTenApps does not support
2017.3 To answer Peter's question (and to expand on Brian's answer):
Windows 10 App Essentials is an add-on that improves accessibility
and usability of controls found in Windows 10, along with improving
usability of some built-in apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store
and others. The add-on sometimes serves as an extended beta testing
facility where features under consideration for inclusion in NVDA are
tested in public e.g. support for announcing hardware keyboard input
suggestions was first made available on the add-on, then included in
NVDA in late 2018.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released,
requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:


What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?
A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page,
Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the
NVDA Community Add-ons website (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-
u
s
.html
) , September 23, 2019




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


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E.T.
 

I may have missed any responses, been fielding too many emails elsewhere.

I installed two Vocalizer voices from Code Factory and wonder if there is a shortcut to switching between them on the fly? Also one voice has an update, how would I get it? Thanks.

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It Implicit Responsibility.


locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

hi joseph.
what is your recommendation for me that i wish to use 2017.3?
do you recommend me that if i can access one system with windows ten,
(version 1903), i only install 2017.3 version of nvda?
or install it with your addon version 17.09?
do newer versions of your addon beyond 17.09 support nvda 2017.3?

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Add-on 17.09 isn't optimized for newer Windows 10 releases such as April
2018 Update. Although that add-on release will read various things on
Windows 10, it won't recognize certain things added in newer Windows 10
releases.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your support as always.
does 2017.3 reads windows ten settings, especially combo boxes and radio
buttons?
i asked because from the link which brian sent here, i studied all changes
for all versions of your addon and realized that you included support for
various windows ten settings in different versions of windows ten app
essential.
and, i realized that if i can find a system with windows ten, the last
version of your addon that i can use is addon version 17.09.

On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To answer the second question, yes 2017.3 works with Windows 10. Note
that as far as the add-on is concerned, WinTenApps does not support
2017.3 To answer Peter's question (and to expand on Brian's answer):
Windows 10 App Essentials is an add-on that improves accessibility and
usability of controls found in Windows 10, along with improving
usability of some built-in apps such as Calculator, Microsoft Store
and others. The add-on sometimes serves as an extended beta testing
facility where features under consideration for inclusion in NVDA are
tested in public e.g. support for announcing hardware keyboard input
suggestions was first made available on the add-on, then included in NVDA
in late 2018.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

thanks so much brian.
i really needed this link.also, is nvda 2017.3 really works well with
windows ten?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:


What exactly does Windows 10 App Essentials do?
A very thorough description for this add-on is provided on its page,
Windows
10 App Essentials (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html ) , at the
NVDA Community Add-ons website (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html )

.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-u
s
.html
) , September 23, 2019




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

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