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Re: Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA
Hi, Try (you need to use type cover or another keyboard for this):
Based on the description you gave us, it appears NVDA’s touch support routine isn’t recognizing some touch gestures properly. This might be caused by either touch support being turned off from NVDA (that’s what the above step was checking for), something going on with touchscreen hardware, or touchscreen controller driver. If it’s hardware or driver, I advise asking Microsoft to look into this (Surface Pro 7 was made by Microsoft). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:32 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA
Hi all, I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7. It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode. Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Best regards
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Settings not copying to system profile
luke scholey
Hi all
When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909. Thanks for any help Luke
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Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA
Denis Sariyannis
Hi all, I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7. It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode. Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Best regards
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
And this topic is now locked, too. All essential information has been presented, and best practice advice offered.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?
This topic is now locked. If individual members have feedback either in support of Mr. Cuppens' position, or against it, those should be sent to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?
Rosemarie Chavarria
Zara,
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No offense but it's time to completely dump XP. It's been out of support since 2014. You've been told this repeatedly. Brian's right. Wy continue to cling to something that isn't supported anymore? Rosemarie
On 7/2/2020 11:20 AM, zahra wrote:
i use windows xp.
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Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 02:14 PM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
I'd rather advise to close discussions here about very very outdatedAnd you're not the only one, and your position has been noted. A decision will be pending shortly, but as the list moderator I am in full support of your position. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?
i use windows xp.
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and 2017.2 and 2017.3 versions of nvda, are the best versions according to my needs.
On 7/2/20, Davy Cuppens <davycuppens@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear mods --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Enhanced Touch Gestures 20.07
#addonrelease
Hello everyone,
Enhanced Touch Gestures 20.07 is now available. Notable changes include support for NVDA 2020.1 or later, a keyboard command to toggle touch interaction or touch passthrough (depending on NVDA version), and deprecation of coordinate announcement beep and other changes.
IMPORTANT: Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on is applicable if:
Also, the following features from the add-on are deprecated and will be removed in an upcoming release:
In case of the latter, the command used to enable/disable touch passthrough (either a custom command, or starting with add-on 20.07, Control+Alt+NVDA+T) will toggle touch interaction in an upcoming add-on release.
As always the new version can be downloaded from community add-ons website or via Add-on Updater. Cheers, Joseph
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Davy Cuppens
Dear mods
I'd rather advise to close discussions here about very very outdated software versions that are nolonger supported. Who still works with xp or MS DOS 10? These topics bring up high mail traffic with no purpose. Who works with ios5 or 6 on his iphone? I have absolutely no problem with waiting some time for new updates. I do this as well as I heard that f.e. ios 13 was unstable and buggy for voiceover.; But there is really no reason to use NVDA versions that are 3 years outdated folks. Regards Davy -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:57 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease Hi, Actually, yes you will experience issues when using 2017.3 with Windows 10 Version 1903, as 2017.3 does not support changes introduced with Version 1903 (there are too many to list). To reiterate my position on this (and hopefully this would be the final time I have to state this): as Brian (and many others) indicated, software has finite lifetime. Windows 10, NVDA, and Windows 10 App Essentials follow this principle. I have no intention of making a newer add-on release work with NVDA 2017.3, nor plan to create a version of NVDA 2017.3 that will support new Windows 10 features (end of story, period). Before I get off the stage, just a heads up: a future development snapshot of Windows 10 App Essentials will drop support for NVDA 2019.3, but that won't happen until 2020.2 release candidate comes out. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:50 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease yes, for my desired voice preferences, the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue? also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently? On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
Rosemarie Chavarria
Zara,
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You can't use 2017.1 on a new system like windows 10. It's time you accepted that fact and get out of the past. Rosemarie
On 7/2/2020 10:50 AM, zahra wrote:
yes,
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
Hi,
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Actually, yes you will experience issues when using 2017.3 with Windows 10 Version 1903, as 2017.3 does not support changes introduced with Version 1903 (there are too many to list). To reiterate my position on this (and hopefully this would be the final time I have to state this): as Brian (and many others) indicated, software has finite lifetime. Windows 10, NVDA, and Windows 10 App Essentials follow this principle. I have no intention of making a newer add-on release work with NVDA 2017.3, nor plan to create a version of NVDA 2017.3 that will support new Windows 10 features (end of story, period). Before I get off the stage, just a heads up: a future development snapshot of Windows 10 App Essentials will drop support for NVDA 2019.3, but that won't happen until 2020.2 release candidate comes out. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:50 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease yes, for my desired voice preferences, the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue? also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently? On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:50 PM, zahra wrote:
if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without anyYou can't stay on Windows 10, Version 1903, either. It is the next to go out of support, later this year. You really, really need to accept that learning to "go with the flow" is absolutely, positively necessary. It's really not an option, nor is staying with any given version of Windows 10. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
yes,
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for my desired voice preferences, the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue? also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?
On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the vast --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version of an operating system, Windows or otherwise. There are times when backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any operating system. In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
Zahra,
You have soon got to start making notes for yourself, on all of this, as it has been discussed repeatedly. You have apparently finally dumped Windows XP, but are trying to cling to older versions of NVDA, which will not work over the long term as Windows 10 continues to mature. I know you have strong preferences for a specific synthesizer, but eventually you are going to have to move along unless it does, which is unlikely. If you want to use Windows 10 App Essentials on earlier than Windows 10, Version 1909, Joseph has already stated, in the very message that started this topic, that you must stick with Windows 10 App Essentials version 20.06.2 and given the direct link to where that can be downloaded. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
Hi,
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Newer add-on releases do not support NVDA 2017.3. This has been the policy for years: unless needed, Windows 10 App Essentials supports current and immediate past stable versions of NVDA. As of this post, Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 (the latest stable) supports NVDA 2019.3, 2020.1, 2020.2 beta and alpha snapshots. A version scheduled for fall will drop support for 2019.3 following the above policy, as NVDA 2020.2 would have been released to everyone then. The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease hi joseph. what is your recommendation for me that i wish to use 2017.3? do you recommend me that if i can access one system with windows ten, (version 1903), i only install 2017.3 version of nvda? or install it with your addon version 17.09? do newer versions of your addon beyond 17.09 support nvda 2017.3? On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Switching Voices
I may have missed any responses, been fielding too many emails elsewhere.
I installed two Vocalizer voices from Code Factory and wonder if there is a shortcut to switching between them on the fly? Also one voice has an update, how would I get it? Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com Freedom of Speech Carries With It Implicit Responsibility.
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later
#addonrelease
hi joseph.
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what is your recommendation for me that i wish to use 2017.3? do you recommend me that if i can access one system with windows ten, (version 1903), i only install 2017.3 version of nvda? or install it with your addon version 17.09? do newer versions of your addon beyond 17.09 support nvda 2017.3?
On 7/2/20, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: New NVDA sounds
Try with another player. Winamp hates short wave files of under 1 second or sometimes 2. This has ben a bug for years now. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 2 Jul 2020, at 8:38, Bob Jutzi wrote:
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