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Re: blank lines add on.

Gene
 

I have no objection to an add-on or feature in NVDA that would skip blank lines when you up or down arrow reading the next line of text. I don't recall seeing that asked for in the past and as I understood the question yesterday, it was how to avoid blank lines when down arrowing through a message, appearing that the person was reading line by line.

When reading documents in a word processor or mail as HTML, it is my understanding that control down arrow or control up arrow will read by paragraph, skipping blank lines in documents. I haven't used that feature enough to discuss it further, others may have.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Damacena
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2020 6:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines add on.


Because it does not solve the problem totally. For example: what if I want to read the previous paragraph, but there is a lot of blank lines between the current and the previous paragraph?
An add-on like this would help me a lot.
Thank you!


Em qui., 2 de jul. de 2020 às 14:01, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> escreveu:
Wy not just use read to end? You won't hear any blank lines then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Sue J. Ward
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 11:03 AM
To: nvda groups
Subject: [nvda] blank lines add on.

Hello. Does anyone know if there is an addon where you can turn off
the feature where if NVDA says blank if there is a blank line or a
carriage return it says blank and would like to turn it off cause when
am reading emails I come to a lot of blank lines or returns in an email
and keep on hearing: blank, blank and it kind of drives me crazy so
would like if it all possible to turn off this feature with in the add
on if the add on is in the works maybe it might work with nvda 2010.1
onward. Thank you.
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An NVDA-compatible Markdown editor?

Gerardo Corripio
 

Any of you guys know of an accessible NVDA-compatible Markdown Editor, in which I could when a link is poasted into the document, invoke a command, that will generate the Markdown code for it? Or wen I want to generate a list, it would automatically when entering a new line for the list, generate the Star character? Thanks for info.

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Re: blank lines add on.

Daniel Damacena
 

Because it does not solve the problem totally. For example: what if I want to read the previous paragraph, but there is a lot of blank lines between the current and the previous paragraph?
An add-on like this would help me a lot.
Thank you!

Em qui., 2 de jul. de 2020 às 14:01, Gene <gsasner@...> escreveu:

Wy not just use read to end?  You won't hear any blank lines then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Sue J. Ward
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 11:03 AM
To: nvda groups
Subject: [nvda] blank lines add on.

  Hello. Does anyone know if there is an addon where you can turn off
the feature where if NVDA says blank if there is a blank line or a
carriage return it says blank and would like to turn it off cause when
am reading emails I come to a lot of blank lines or returns in an email
and keep on hearing: blank, blank and it kind of drives me crazy so
would like if it all possible to turn off this feature with in the add
on if the add on is in the works maybe it might work with nvda 2010.1
onward. Thank you.
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Re: Switching Voices

E.T.
 

Thanks very much. I need to look at the commands list more carefully next time.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
Freedom of Speech Carries With
It Implicit Responsibility.

On 7/2/2020 1:27 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi
Use the audio ring, NVDA+Control+Left/right arrow loops around various audio features, one of which is voice.  Once set on Voice, use NVDA+Control+Up/Down arrow to switch between voices.
Cheers
Chris
*From: *E.T. via groups.io <mailto:ancient.aliens=icloud.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *02 July 2020 18:38
*To: *NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Switching Voices
    I may have missed any responses, been fielding too many emails
elsewhere.
    I installed two Vocalizer voices from Code Factory and wonder if
there is a shortcut to switching between them on the fly? Also one voice
has an update, how would I get it? Thanks.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Freedom of Speech Carries With
It Implicit Responsibility.


Re: Switching Voices

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Use the audio ring, NVDA+Control+Left/right arrow loops around various audio features, one of which is voice.  Once set on Voice, use NVDA+Control+Up/Down arrow to switch between voices.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: E.T. via groups.io
Sent: 02 July 2020 18:38
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] Switching Voices

 

    I may have missed any responses, been fielding too many emails

elsewhere.

 

    I installed two Vocalizer voices from Code Factory and wonder if

there is a shortcut to switching between them on the fly? Also one voice

has an update, how would I get it? Thanks.

 

From E.T.'s Keyboard...

    Ancient.Aliens@...

Freedom of Speech Carries With

It Implicit Responsibility.

 

 

 


Re: NVDA add-ons for LibreOffice

Hettie
 

Thanks tons, Jacob.

Never knew about this great site. 


Hettie


On 2020/07/02 1:43 pm, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Hettie, here's the page with the libre office tutorials, etc. on it:

http://www.talking-computers.org.uk/jimonlibreoffice.html


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On 2020-07-02 01:05 PM, Hettie wrote:

Thanks, David. Do you have a link for me?


Hettie


On 2020/07/01 10:25 pm, David Griffith via groups.io wrote:

There are a whole series of tutorials on the Talking Computers Website on using NVDA and Libre Office.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 01 July 2020 21:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA add-ons for LibreOffice

 

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 03:48 PM, Hettie wrote:

Organize Add-ons but no option to search for new ones.

-
When you open Add-Ons Manager there is a Get Add-Ons button at the bottom.  You can also download NVDA add-ons from the NVDA Community Add-Ons Page or from private developers, then double click on the file when NVDA is running, and you'll be asked if you want to install the add-on.

As Joseph has already noted there are no NVDA add-ons for Libre Office (or at least there aren't on the community add-ons page, who knows if anyone noodling around with NVDA and Libre Office might have created an add-on, but chances are slim).
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Re: Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

Denis Sariyannis
 

Sorry, please ignore my last mail.
Hi Joseph,
thanks for your quick reply.
Touch Screen Support is activated. Just checked. 
I just tested it with the learning mode of Narrator and it works perfectly. My gestures are always recognized well, also the numbers of fingers I use. I don't know what's wrong.

Best
Denis

Am Do., 2. Juli 2020 um 21:04 Uhr schrieb Denis Sariyannis via groups.io <denis.sariyannis=gmail.com@groups.io>:

Hi Joseph,
thanks for your quick reply.
Touch Screen Support is activated. 

Am Do., 2. Juli 2020 um 20:40 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>:

Hi,

Try (you need to use type cover or another keyboard for this):

  1. Open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. Scroll through categories until you arrive at Enhanced Touch Gestures (it should be one of the last items).
  3. Check if “enable touch” checkbox is checked.

Based on the description you gave us, it appears NVDA’s touch support routine isn’t recognizing some touch gestures properly. This might be caused by either touch support being turned off from NVDA (that’s what the above step was checking for), something going on with touchscreen hardware, or touchscreen controller driver. If it’s hardware or driver, I advise asking Microsoft to look into this (Surface Pro 7 was made by Microsoft).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

 

Hi all,

I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7.

It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode.

Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 

Best regards

Denis

 

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Re: Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi Joseph,
thanks for your quick reply.
Touch Screen Support is activated. 

Am Do., 2. Juli 2020 um 20:40 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>:

Hi,

Try (you need to use type cover or another keyboard for this):

  1. Open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. Scroll through categories until you arrive at Enhanced Touch Gestures (it should be one of the last items).
  3. Check if “enable touch” checkbox is checked.

Based on the description you gave us, it appears NVDA’s touch support routine isn’t recognizing some touch gestures properly. This might be caused by either touch support being turned off from NVDA (that’s what the above step was checking for), something going on with touchscreen hardware, or touchscreen controller driver. If it’s hardware or driver, I advise asking Microsoft to look into this (Surface Pro 7 was made by Microsoft).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

 

Hi all,

I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7.

It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode.

Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 

Best regards

Denis

 

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Re: Settings not copying to system profile

luke scholey
 

Ah, that explains it. I didn’t realise that - thanks for your help
Luke

On 2 Jul 2020, at 19:51, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Are you perhaps using a third-party speech synthesizer such as Vocalizer? If yes, that might explain part of the issue.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Settings not copying to system profile

Hi
Thanks for the suggestion. I did that already but it doesn’t solve it.
Thanks
Luke

On 2 Jul 2020, at 19:42, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
You must save settings to user profile (Control+NVDA+C) before copying settings (and add-ons) to system profile.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke
scholey
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Settings not copying to system profile

Hi all

When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909.
Thanks for any help
Luke











Re: Settings not copying to system profile

Rui Fontes
 

Vocalizer Expressive is not able to speak in secure windows...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 19:48 de 02/07/2020, luke scholey escreveu:

Hi
Thanks for the suggestion. I did that already but it doesn’t solve it.
Thanks
Luke

On 2 Jul 2020, at 19:42, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
You must save settings to user profile (Control+NVDA+C) before copying settings (and add-ons) to system profile.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Settings not copying to system profile

Hi all

When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909.
Thanks for any help
Luke






Re: Settings not copying to system profile

 

Hi,
Are you perhaps using a third-party speech synthesizer such as Vocalizer? If yes, that might explain part of the issue.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Settings not copying to system profile

Hi
Thanks for the suggestion. I did that already but it doesn’t solve it.
Thanks
Luke

On 2 Jul 2020, at 19:42, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
You must save settings to user profile (Control+NVDA+C) before copying settings (and add-ons) to system profile.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke
scholey
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Settings not copying to system profile

Hi all

When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909.
Thanks for any help
Luke






Re: Settings not copying to system profile

luke scholey
 

Hi
Thanks for the suggestion. I did that already but it doesn’t solve it.
Thanks
Luke

On 2 Jul 2020, at 19:42, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
You must save settings to user profile (Control+NVDA+C) before copying settings (and add-ons) to system profile.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Settings not copying to system profile

Hi all

When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909.
Thanks for any help
Luke






Re: Settings not copying to system profile

 

Hi,
You must save settings to user profile (Control+NVDA+C) before copying settings (and add-ons) to system profile.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Settings not copying to system profile

Hi all

When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909.
Thanks for any help
Luke


Gmail and Edge (Version 83.0.478.58)

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi,
I'm using Windows 10 (latest), Edge Version 83.0.478.58 and NVDA 2020.1.
When I open the Gmail site (standard mode) and create a new mail I have trouble  with the edit field for the message. I press enter on it and focus mode activates.
After a while it seems that speech and braille display are completely out of sync. They show different things and I'm not able to set the cursor to a specific line/letter to correct something. Restarting NVDA seems to help for a short time but then I'm running into this once more. I cannot reproduce it but it happens often.
Does anyone have this too?

Best
Denis

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Re: Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

 

Hi,

Try (you need to use type cover or another keyboard for this):

  1. Open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
  2. Scroll through categories until you arrive at Enhanced Touch Gestures (it should be one of the last items).
  3. Check if “enable touch” checkbox is checked.

Based on the description you gave us, it appears NVDA’s touch support routine isn’t recognizing some touch gestures properly. This might be caused by either touch support being turned off from NVDA (that’s what the above step was checking for), something going on with touchscreen hardware, or touchscreen controller driver. If it’s hardware or driver, I advise asking Microsoft to look into this (Surface Pro 7 was made by Microsoft).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

 

Hi all,

I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7.

It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode.

Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 

Best regards

Denis

 

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Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


Settings not copying to system profile

luke scholey
 

Hi all

When I try to copy my current settings to the sys profile to be used in secure environments, I click copy settings, say yes to the are you sure prompt and accept the UAC, after about 10 seconds, I get a success message. But my settings don’t seem to be taking effect. NVDA just speaks with the default onecore voice with default settings. I’ve tried restarting both NVDA and the machine but no luck. There’s nothing in the log, info and debug relating to this. Does anyone have any ideas what might be going on? NVDA 2020.1 on win 10 1909.
Thanks for any help
Luke


Touch Screen doesn't work with NVDA

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi all,
I am using touch screens for ages now. So I tried to use the Enhanced Touch Screen Gestures add-in on my Surface Pro 7.
It does not work at all. Most of times NVDA or the screen does not recognize my single clicks with one finger. Also I have to tap with four fingers several times until I get into learning mode.
Most of my gestures are simply recognized as something else.
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Best regards
Denis

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locked Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

 

And this topic is now locked, too.   All essential information has been presented, and best practice advice offered.
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locked Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?

 

This topic is now locked.   If individual members have feedback either in support of Mr. Cuppens' position, or against it, those should be sent to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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locked Re: MODS - why all that chatter about far outdated nvda versions?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Zara,


No offense but it's time to completely dump XP. It's been out of support since 2014. You've been told this repeatedly. Brian's right. Wy continue to cling to something that isn't supported anymore?


Rosemarie

On 7/2/2020 11:20 AM, zahra wrote:
i use windows xp.
and 2017.2 and 2017.3 versions of nvda, are the best versions
according to my needs.

On 7/2/20, Davy Cuppens <davycuppens@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear mods

I'd rather advise to close discussions here about very very outdated
software versions that are nolonger supported.

Who still works with xp or MS DOS 10? These topics bring up high mail
traffic with no purpose. Who works with ios5 or 6 on his iphone? I have
absolutely no problem with waiting some time for new updates. I do this as
well as I heard that f.e. ios 13 was unstable and buggy for voiceover.; But
there is really no reason to use NVDA versions that are 3 years outdated
folks.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

Hi,
Actually, yes you will experience issues when using 2017.3 with Windows 10
Version 1903, as 2017.3 does not support changes introduced with Version
1903 (there are too many to list).
To reiterate my position on this (and hopefully this would be the final
time
I have to state this): as Brian (and many others) indicated, software has
finite lifetime. Windows 10, NVDA, and Windows 10 App Essentials follow
this
principle. I have no intention of making a newer add-on release work with
NVDA 2017.3, nor plan to create a version of NVDA 2017.3 that will support
new Windows 10 features (end of story, period).
Before I get off the stage, just a heads up: a future development snapshot
of Windows 10 App Essentials will drop support for NVDA 2019.3, but that
won't happen until 2020.2 release candidate comes out.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07 released, requires
Windows 10 November 2019 Update or later #addonrelease

yes,
for my desired voice preferences,
the last version that i can use is 2017.3 if i find a system with windows
ten 1903, can i use 2017.3 without any major issue?
also, does nvda 2017.3 support firefox quantum efficiently?

On 7/2/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 01:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

The above policy also aligns with Windows as a Service concept to
some extent - a given Windows 10 release has finite support lifetime.
And it also aligns with general practice among all commercial, and the
vast majority of open-source, software developers that they will not
make any attempt at backward compatibility with an unsupported version
of an operating system, Windows or otherwise. There are times when
backward compatibility is "accidentally maintained" but it should
never be expected, ever, by intent for unsupported versions of any
operating system.

In the age of most things going in the "as a service" direction, it is
truly futile to make any attempt to stay with one thing, no matter how
much one might like it, when it has been abandoned by its own maker.

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~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali









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