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Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

Luke Davis
 

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

And which is what I have as well installed since yesterday. Remember I use Windows in Spanish, thus I went into check within the Clipboard subsection
ofInput Gestures, and the Control+x is as it should.
So your windows language is set to Spanish. What is your NVDA language set to? (NVDA+ctrl+G, first element).

With my Windows language set to English, and my NVDA language set to Spanish (ES), Clipspeak works fine.

Have you checked to be sure the Clipspeak add-on is enabled? If it is enabled, maybe remove it and download and install it again?
This is all in NVDA+n, T, A, enter (English keys).

Luke


Re: blank lines add on.

 

Hi,
Please note that core developers might not be able to get to this issue for a while as we prioritize evaluating existing pull requests and high priority bug fixes and maintenance work.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 2:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines add on.

Hi all,

This request has been made to NVDA developers directly through this Github ticket: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2522. I encourage you to contribute to that conversation by possibly sharing
(i) use cases or scenarios where you experience this, (ii) why this has a negative impact on your experience, and (iii) other pieces of context for this issue that might make its importance more clear to the devs.

Thanks.

On 7/3/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I read the original request as Gene did. I thought it might be
possible to control this either with punctuation level or possibly by
adding a regular expression match for a blank line in the default
dictionary, making its substitution be nothing at all, but neither of those methods seem to work.

If any other regex geeks are reading this, the expression I used to
match a blank line is: ^\s*$ I still have "blank" being announced
when I am down or up arrowing line by line through text.
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*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us
.html
) , September 23, 2019




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Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

Hi,

Hmmm, I think I know why. Can you tell us exactly how you are doing this – that is, tell us how to reproduce the issue? Only then I will tell you what’s happened.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 2:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

And which is what I have as well installed since yesterday. Remember I use Windows in Spanish, thus I went into check within the Clipboard subsection ofInput Gestures, and the Control+x is as it should.

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Brian Vogel
Enviado: lunes, 6 de julio de 2020 04:36 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

Gene,

        I omitted that the version currently downloading from the official add-on page you supplied, https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html, is ClipSpeak 1.1, which is what Luke stated he just downloaded in an earlier post.
--

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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

 


Re: blank lines add on.

Bhavya shah
 

Hi all,

This request has been made to NVDA developers directly through this
Github ticket: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2522. I
encourage you to contribute to that conversation by possibly sharing
(i) use cases or scenarios where you experience this, (ii) why this
has a negative impact on your experience, and (iii) other pieces of
context for this issue that might make its importance more clear to
the devs.

Thanks.

On 7/3/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I read the original request as Gene did.  I thought it might be possible to
control this either with punctuation level or possibly by adding a regular
expression match for a blank line in the default dictionary, making its
substitution be nothing at all, but neither of those methods seem to work.

If any other regex geeks are reading this, the expression I used to match a
blank line is:  ^\s*$
I still have "blank" being announced when I am down or up arrowing line by
line through text.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019



--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

Gerardo,

          Not that there's the slightest thing wrong with asking about how ClipSpeak is behaving for others here, but once you have even a single counterexample for the specific problem you're having suspect something about your own ecosystem, be that a corruption in Windows 10, some weird interaction secondary to Spanish (in your case) being selected and what gets exposed to the ClipSpeak add-on, or similar.

           If there is someone else reading who's also using Spanish it would be interesting to know if they've got the same issue, as that would point to some sort of issue secondary to language, but if they aren't then it points even more to something being not quite right on your machine.

           But if further input suggests an issue for others that matches yours, it's the developer of the Add-On who should be the first point of contact as far as seeking a solution.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

Gerardo Corripio
 

And which is what I have as well installed since yesterday. Remember I use Windows in Spanish, thus I went into check within the Clipboard subsection ofInput Gestures, and the Control+x is as it should.

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Brian Vogel
Enviado: lunes, 6 de julio de 2020 04:36 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

Gene,

        I omitted that the version currently downloading from the official add-on page you supplied, https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html, is ClipSpeak 1.1, which is what Luke stated he just downloaded in an earlier post.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

 


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

Gerardo Corripio
 

NVDA version 2020.1, with Windows 10 2004 (64 bits) build 19041.329, and Clipspeak 1.1.

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Luke Davis
Enviado: lunes, 6 de julio de 2020 04:02 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

What version of Clipspeak, and what version of NVDA and Windows are you using?

 

I just downloaded Clipspeak 1.1, installed into NVDA Alpha, on Win 10 update

2004.

 

In firefox, I selected a bunch of lines, and pressed ctrl+c. I heard "Copied

text".

I then opened notepad, and pressed ctrl+v, for which I heard "Pasted text".

Lastly, I selected all and pressed ctrl+X, and heard "Cut text".

 

It seems to be working as expected.

 

Luke

 

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

 

> Aside from ClipSpeak, which supposedly tells you when you copy, paste, cut etc., which other AddON or solution is  there? Using ClipSpeak Control+x doesn’t

> say anything here at my end, even though when I’ve gone into Input Gestures area/Clipboard  from withinSettings (its Shortcut is n), and Control+x is

> assigned! Any other thoughts, or Addons I could try that would tell me when I copy, Cut etc?

 

 

 


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 


Well 19.3 was the python3 switchover.

So 19.2 was the last python 2 version.

I actually think that in most cases nvda is a lot more stable with the later python version.



On 7/07/2020 9:36 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
Gene,

        I omitted that the version currently downloading from the official add-on page you supplied, https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html, is ClipSpeak 1.1, which is what Luke stated he just downloaded in an earlier post.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

Gene,

        I omitted that the version currently downloading from the official add-on page you supplied, https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html, is ClipSpeak 1.1, which is what Luke stated he just downloaded in an earlier post.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

 

At least at the moment, add-ons compatible with the 2019.X NVDA releases should also be compatible with 2020.X releases.  (Unless I've completely erased the development history of NVDA, it was 2019.X where the change from Python 2 to Python 3 occurred.)

I imagine that the "compatible with" lines on the add-on pages are often updated only when a new version of the add-on is released, and likely not after until the next update must be made.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

JM Casey
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: July 6, 2020 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any
crash or major issue?

I have seen significant Firefox instability on a single Windows 7 system
that I help someone with routinely.

It will often freeze and stop responding, usually on first tab open, to the
point that I gave him a desktop shortcut with a shortcut key, that kills any
Firefox process when pressed.

It doesn't seem to matter if the system is newly booted, has been running
for a while, or if this is the first FF session of the day, or the third, or
the second locking up one in a row.

I can't find any pattern to it, except that it seems to happen more often
than not.

Latest Firefox, and updated Win 7 (as updated as it gets, anyway).

It is a pro-bono remote support situation, so I can't really do much to
diagnose and deal with this, but I just wanted to point out at least one
"complaint" with Firefox on Win 7.

Luke


On Sun, 5 Jul 2020, Gene wrote:

First, you can't use Firefox 51 forever. Old browsers gradually work
with fewer and fewer sites. Try the latest version of Firefox and see
if it crashes or not on your Windows 7 system. You can try the
portable version since that alters nothing on your system. You can
continue to use your beloved years out of date dangerous version if
you wish and evaluate the current portable version. Many people are
using Firefox, the latest one, and I've seen no pattern of complaints.
While I don't use firefox much, I haven't had problems with more recent
versions.


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

Gene
 

Hass Clip Speak been upgraded to make it compatible with newer versions of NVDA? If I understand what I saw on the web site, it has been. Do you have this version?
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html
But I hope others will comment since I may not understand the information properly.
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as



Aside from ClipSpeak, which supposedly tells you when you copy, paste, cut etc., which other AddON or solution is there? Using ClipSpeak Control+x doesn’t say anything here at my end, even though when I’ve gone into Input Gestures area/Clipboard from withinSettings (its Shortcut is n), and Control+x is assigned! Any other thoughts, or Addons I could try that would tell me when I copy, Cut etc?



Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10


Re: ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

Luke Davis
 

What version of Clipspeak, and what version of NVDA and Windows are you using?

I just downloaded Clipspeak 1.1, installed into NVDA Alpha, on Win 10 update 2004.

In firefox, I selected a bunch of lines, and pressed ctrl+c. I heard "Copied text".
I then opened notepad, and pressed ctrl+v, for which I heard "Pasted text".
Lastly, I selected all and pressed ctrl+X, and heard "Cut text".

It seems to be working as expected.

Luke

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

Aside from ClipSpeak, which supposedly tells you when you copy, paste, cut etc., which other AddON or solution is  there? Using ClipSpeak Control+x doesn’t
say anything here at my end, even though when I’ve gone into Input Gestures area/Clipboard  from withinSettings (its Shortcut is n), and Control+x is
assigned! Any other thoughts, or Addons I could try that would tell me when I copy, Cut etc?


ClipSpeak doesn't seem as reliable as

Gerardo Corripio
 

Aside from ClipSpeak, which supposedly tells you when you copy, paste, cut etc., which other AddON or solution is  there? Using ClipSpeak Control+x doesn’t say anything here at my end, even though when I’ve gone into Input Gestures area/Clipboard  from withinSettings (its Shortcut is n), and Control+x is assigned! Any other thoughts, or Addons I could try that would tell me when I copy, Cut etc?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 


locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

 

Well I am pleased I don't use any quantom brousers not even waterfox quantom.

The classic brouser is stable.

On other systems everyone uses chrome.

On 7/07/2020 5:16 am, Luke Davis wrote:
I have seen significant Firefox instability on a single Windows 7 system that I help someone with routinely.

It will often freeze and stop responding, usually on first tab open, to the point that I gave him a desktop shortcut with a shortcut key, that kills any Firefox process when pressed.

It doesn't seem to matter if the system is newly booted, has been running for a while, or if this is the first FF session of the day, or the third, or the second locking up one in a row.

I can't find any pattern to it, except that it seems to happen more often than not.

Latest Firefox, and updated Win 7 (as updated as it gets, anyway).

It is a pro-bono remote support situation, so I can't really do much to diagnose and deal with this, but I just wanted to point out at least one "complaint" with Firefox on Win 7.

Luke


On Sun, 5 Jul 2020, Gene wrote:

First, you can't use Firefox 51 forever. Old browsers gradually work with fewer and fewer sites.  Try the latest version of Firefox and see if it crashes or not on your Windows 7 system.  You can try the portable version since that alters nothing on your system. You can continue to use your beloved years out of date dangerous version if you wish and evaluate the current portable version.  Many people are using Firefox, the latest one, and I've seen no pattern of complaints.  While I don't use firefox much, I haven't had problems with more recent versions.


Re: A problem with Nvda and Notepad

Luke Davis
 

We need to know what kind of text he is trying to read. Where it comes from, what format it is, what language, etc. A sample text file might even be good.

Luke

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, Gene wrote:

Word Wrap may well not be the problem. I wrote a lot of text as a test after seeing your message and control right arrow moved properly. I don't know what the problem is. Word wrap might as well be tried, though it probably won't help.


Re: Subscribing/Unsubscribing from the NVDA Group on Groups.io

 

i only use web interface of gmail.
and i dont remember groups.io user name and password.
i created filter for nvda as well as various groups in my gmail.

On 7/6/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Zahra,

Depending on when you joined the group, and how, there is a Groups.io
feature in your Accounts page, Preferences tab, that is a checkbox that
reads, I always want copies of my own emails.

The default state for that these days is off, but at one time it was on.
That's the most likely reason.  However, if you have an e-mail client with
filters set up there are times that filters can end up creating double
copies as well.

If you have never logged on to the Groups.io website, then see the beginning
of this document, *Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from
Groups.io,* (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1B941pSg2OCRKGukRg1d5w7nwu8wJLUaK
)
with regard to how to get a password to log in to the site to control your
various settings.  At this point you do not need to know anything beyond how
to get set up to log in and can read the rest of that document at your
leisure.  After you log in to Groups.io, you can copy and paste this URL,
https://groups.io/account?page=prefs , into your  address box and you'll be
taken straight to your preferences page where you can examine that checkbox
and uncheck it if it's checked.  Just remember to activate the Update
Preferences button at the bottom of the page to save your changes if you
make any.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Subscribing/Unsubscribing from the NVDA Group on Groups.io

 

Zahra,

         Depending on when you joined the group, and how, there is a Groups.io feature in your Accounts page, Preferences tab, that is a checkbox that reads, I always want copies of my own emails.

         The default state for that these days is off, but at one time it was on.  That's the most likely reason.  However, if you have an e-mail client with filters set up there are times that filters can end up creating double copies as well.

          If you have never logged on to the Groups.io website, then see the beginning of this document, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io,
with regard to how to get a password to log in to the site to control your various settings.  At this point you do not need to know anything beyond how to get set up to log in and can read the rest of that document at your leisure.  After you log in to Groups.io, you can copy and paste this URL, https://groups.io/account?page=prefs, into your  address box and you'll be taken straight to your preferences page where you can examine that checkbox and uncheck it if it's checked.  Just remember to activate the Update Preferences button at the bottom of the page to save your changes if you make any.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Subscribing/Unsubscribing from the NVDA Group on Groups.io

 

hi brian.
may i ask whats the reason that my emails are sentto the list twice
instead of once?
every email which i send, i recieve it in my nvda folder twice every time.

On 7/6/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
This topic has been retitled so that the subject has some meaningful
keywords for future searchers of the archive.

The main webpage for the NVDA Group on Groups.io is:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Like all groups on this service, it has a section entitled Group Email
Addresses under which all the really important ones that are commonly used
are listed.

The online archive for the NVDA Group can be found at
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Subscribing/Unsubscribing from the NVDA Group on Groups.io

 

This topic has been retitled so that the subject has some meaningful keywords for future searchers of the archive.

The main webpage for the NVDA Group on Groups.io is:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Like all groups on this service, it has a section entitled Group Email Addresses under which all the really important ones that are commonly used are listed.

The online archive for the NVDA Group can be found at https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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