Yes it still did so I should send a log.  Please explain how to do that please.

Hi everyone, I did disable the one addon, clipspeak most current version.
There isn't any change concerning first letter navigation on the desktop or
in a list of files.
Speech other than that is working fine. But it would be nice to move by the
first letter navigation. So if anyone has any ideas how to get it back I
would appreciate them. I have NVDA on two three computers and all works
fine. Thanks for responding to my questions.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi,
I suspect NVDA is not being notified about selection changes, sometimes
caused by an add-on or a setting interfering with what NVDA is supposed to
do. To test, try restarting with all add-ons disabled, and if that solves
the issue, we can move onto isolating individual add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

The original message doesn't say there is no speech. It gives one specific
condition where there is no speech, when you use first letter navigation in
a list. Since there is speech, the possible solutions don't apply.

I have no reason why no speech occurs at that one specific time. Using read
current line should easily solve the problem and the command takes almost no
time to execute. It may be possible to find the reason by examining the log
but there are some problems that are so minor and so easily worked around
that they aren't worth solving, though you may, if you wish to, pursue it,
of course.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter



Hi




I am sure you would of checked the following on the computer.




One that his speakers are plugged into the right whole and turned on.




On the computer the sound is not muted.




Press the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue then type in
sndvol then press the enter key.




The next screen that comes up will have the master volume make sure it is
right up so you can hear it and not down on zero.




There is a box under it if checked it will mute the sound so make sure it is

un checked.




If you can see nvda is running but not talking under that section I think
there is a slider to make it louder there.




Also check when nvda is running that under the synth settings in nvda you
press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter S to bring it up.




Make sure under the synth section that it has a synth there and not set to
no speech if it is set to that change it to e speak or another synth
package.




Gene nz




On 13/07/2020 2:25 am, Fresh Start wrote:


Hi All, I am using NVDA 20.1 on a client's windows ten pro laptop. When on
the desktop or in a list of programs or files, NVDA doesn't speak the name
of a program or file when pressing it's first letter. However, the cursor
does go to the location. I know this by arrowing up and then down. I tried

maximizing but didn't cause any change in behavior. Any ideas to resolve
the problem? Thanks in advance.

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Hi everyone, I did disable the one addon, clipspeak most current version.
There isn't any change concerning first letter navigation on the desktop or
in a list of files.
Speech other than that is working fine. But it would be nice to move by the
first letter navigation. So if anyone has any ideas how to get it back I
would appreciate them. I have NVDA on two three computers and all works
fine. Thanks for responding to my questions.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi,
I suspect NVDA is not being notified about selection changes, sometimes
caused by an add-on or a setting interfering with what NVDA is supposed to
do. To test, try restarting with all add-ons disabled, and if that solves
the issue, we can move onto isolating individual add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

The original message doesn't say there is no speech. It gives one specific
condition where there is no speech, when you use first letter navigation in
a list. Since there is speech, the possible solutions don't apply.

I have no reason why no speech occurs at that one specific time. Using read
current line should easily solve the problem and the command takes almost no
time to execute. It may be possible to find the reason by examining the log
but there are some problems that are so minor and so easily worked around
that they aren't worth solving, though you may, if you wish to, pursue it,
of course.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi

I am sure you would of checked the following on the computer.

One that his speakers are plugged into the right whole and turned on.

On the computer the sound is not muted.

Press the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue then type in
sndvol then press the enter key.

The next screen that comes up will have the master volume make sure it is
right up so you can hear it and not down on zero.

There is a box under it if checked it will mute the sound so make sure it is

un checked.

If you can see nvda is running but not talking under that section I think
there is a slider to make it louder there.

Also check when nvda is running that under the synth settings in nvda you
press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter S to bring it up.

Make sure under the synth section that it has a synth there and not set to
no speech if it is set to that change it to e speak or another synth
package.

Gene nz

On 13/07/2020 2:25 am, Fresh Start wrote:

Hi All, I am using NVDA 20.1 on a client's windows ten pro laptop. When on
the desktop or in a list of programs or files, NVDA doesn't speak the name
of a program or file when pressing it's first letter. However, the cursor
does go to the location. I know this by arrowing up and then down. I tried

maximizing but didn't cause any change in behavior. Any ideas to resolve
the problem? Thanks in advance.

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e-mail address shown below with subscribe in the subject field.

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understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your
paths straight."

(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)

Hey Sarah.

 

This IBM TTS is a paid synth, yes? Somewhere I can actually hear a sample of its babble?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 13, 2020 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free synthesiser

 

Also google the IBM voice for NvDA. You need to find the DLL yourself , but there is an add on that ships with that. It sounds a lot like eloquence, and works quite well.

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On 12 Jul 2020, at 17:29, Sky Mundell wrote:

Hello. First, Codefactory has a SAPI 5 version of Eloquence that you can get for a price. I don’t have the price on the top of my head, but if you google Eloquence for NVDA code factory Eloquence. Another add-on they have is the Eloquence and Vocaliser expressive add-on for NVDA which also Codefactory makes, and it contains Eloquence and Vocaliser in one add-on. But as for free voices, the only free voices that I know of are TruVoice, and the Microsoft Speech from 1999 with Mary, Mike, and Sam. A slight correction. I think you meant windows one core voices. If your' on windows 10, NVDA doesn’t use ESpeak as the default voice. Instead, you get the one core voices by default if your on windows 10.
I hope this helps. Thanks, Sky.

On Jul 12, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi kobisko@... wrote:

Hi good people:
I am in ee of a free synthesizer for NVDA.

Before now, I used the I used the auto language for eloquence. I
didn't know that that program was a cracked one, and it no longer
works with NVDA.
I am not comfortable with the default speech of NVDA which is ESpeak,
because I don't understand the speech, and it is even too low. I also
know of narrator, or Microsoft API5, but I am also not comfortable
with that too. That synthesizer is also too low.
So, are there any free other synshesisers that I can try out.
At the moment I am managing the 40-minute version of JAWS.
Regards.
I am Ibrahim.

Hi
Which version of windows?
does it have to be in a certain language or is english ok.
Speech platform synth/voices might do the trick if before windows 10 I have not tried them on Windows 10.
There is also the speech hub program that will work on computers from 7 to 10 but only in english.
Gene nz
On 13/07/2020 12:15 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
I am in ee of a free synthesizer for NVDA.

Before now, I used the I used the auto language for eloquence. I
didn't know that that program was a cracked one, and it no  longer
works with NVDA.
I am not comfortable with the default speech of NVDA which is ESpeak,
because I don't understand the speech, and it is even too low. I also
know of narrator, or Microsoft API5, but I am also not comfortable
with that too. That synthesizer is also too low.
So, are there any free other synshesisers that I can try out.
At the moment I am managing the 40-minute version of JAWS.
Regards.
I am Ibrahim.

Thanks just grabbed them.i will archive them in my network storage folder .

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free synthesiser

Hi


There are 2 packages in this zip file.


one is the speech platform synth and voices there are quite a few languages there.

You need to install the run time file first then the synths.


the other one is RH voices and synths .


I will leave it in the drop box for 24 hours or so and you can
download it from
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1



The speech hub package page can be found at
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/index.html

there you can find out more info about it and its synths/voices.


you will need also to download the latest add on for 2020.1 or it
might be the version before.


The synth package will need to be installed first then you must
install the add on for nvda to see those synths/voices.


the link to the page where you can read more about it can be found at
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/index.html


The other one I just copied off my how to add additional components
page but the voices are at the bottom of this page can be found at
http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm


This was the page it came off which points to other free and paid
synth/voice packages at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20install%20additional%20
nvda%20components.html

hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 13/07/2020 3:23 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

At the moment I am still using windows7 32bit. I am finding i
difficult to upgrade from windows 7 to 10.
So let me know aboutthe synthesizers you talked about.
Ibrahim.

On 7/13/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi


Which version of windows?

does it have to be in a certain language or is english ok.


Speech platform synth/voices might do the trick if before windows 10
I have not tried them on Windows 10.


There is also the speech hub program that will work on computers
from 7 to 10 but only in english.



Gene nz



On 13/07/2020 12:15 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
I am in ee of a free synthesizer for NVDA.

Before now, I used the I used the auto language for eloquence. I
didn't know that that program was a cracked one, and it no longer
works with NVDA.
I am not comfortable with the default speech of NVDA which is
ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech, and it is even too
low. I also know of narrator, or Microsoft API5, but I am also not
comfortable with that too. That synthesizer is also too low.
So, are there any free other synshesisers that I can try out.
At the moment I am managing the 40-minute version of JAWS.
Regards.
I am Ibrahim.

Hello.

An option is IBM TTS. Is an addon legal. Only the addon is a driver sinteciser for Eloquence. The files necessary for Eloquence are available, but the addon no include these files because... Well, a complex situation with Eloquence.

You can write a private message and I can send a link with IBMTTS with the necessary files ready.

Regards.

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el

uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the use of screen readers and technology.

Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.

El lun., 13 de jul. de 2020 a la(s) 10:12, mattias (mjonsson1986@...) escribió:

Ugh is this old tts still alive

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 

Från: g melconian
Skickat: den 13 juli 2020 09:03
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] looking for a free synthesiser

 

Thanks just grabbed them.i will archive them in my network  storage folder .

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:20 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free synthesiser

 

Hi

 

 

There are 2 packages in this zip file.

 

 

one is the speech platform synth and voices there are quite a few languages there.

 

You need to install the run time file first then the synths.

 

 

the other one is RH voices and synths .

 

 

I will leave it in the drop box for 24 hours or so and you can download it from https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1

 

 

 

The speech hub package page can be found at

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/index.html

 

there you can find out more info about it  and its synths/voices.

 

 

you will need also to download the latest add on for 2020.1  or it might

be the version before.

 

 

The synth package will need to be installed first then you must install

the add on for nvda to see those synths/voices.

 

 

the link to the page where you can read more about it can be found at

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/index.html

 

 

The other one I just copied off my how to add additional components page

but the voices are at the bottom of this page can be found at

http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm

 

 

This was the page it came off which points to other free and paid

synth/voice packages at

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20install%20additional%20nvda%20components.html

 

hope it helps.

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 13/07/2020 3:23 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

> At the moment I am still using windows7 32bit. I am finding i

> difficult to upgrade from windows 7 to 10.

> So let me know aboutthe synthesizers you talked about.

> Ibrahim.

> 

> On 7/13/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

>> Hi

>> 

>> 

>> Which version of windows?

>> 

>> does it have to be in a certain language or is english ok.

>> 

>> 

>> Speech platform synth/voices might do the trick if before windows 10 I

>> have not tried them on Windows 10.

>> 

>> 

>> There is also the speech hub program that will work on computers from 7

>> to 10 but only in english.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Gene nz

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 13/07/2020 12:15 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

>>> Hi good people:

>>> I am in ee of a free synthesizer for NVDA.

>>> 

>>> Before now, I used the I used the auto language for eloquence. I

>>> didn't know that that program was a cracked one, and it no  longer

>>> works with NVDA.

>>> I am not comfortable with the default speech of NVDA which is ESpeak,

>>> because I don't understand the speech, and it is even too low. I also

>>> know of narrator, or Microsoft API5, but I am also not comfortable

>>> with that too. That synthesizer is also too low.

>>> So, are there any free other synshesisers that I can try out.

>>> At the moment I am managing the 40-minute version of JAWS.

>>> Regards.

>>> I am Ibrahim.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello. First, Codefactory has a SAPI 5 version of Eloquence that you can get for a price. I don’t have the price on the top of my head, but if you google Eloquence for NVDA code factory Eloquence. Another add-on they have is the Eloquence and Vocaliser expressive add-on for NVDA which also Codefactory makes, and it contains Eloquence and Vocaliser in one add-on. But as for free voices, the only free voices that I know of are TruVoice, and the Microsoft Speech from 1999 with Mary, Mike, and Sam. A slight correction. I think you meant windows one core voices. If your' on windows 10, NVDA doesn’t use ESpeak as the default voice. Instead, you get the one core voices by default if your on windows 10.
I hope this helps. Thanks, Sky.

On Jul 12, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi kobisko@... wrote:

Hi good people:
I am in ee of a free synthesizer for NVDA.

Before now, I used the I used the auto language for eloquence. I
didn't know that that program was a cracked one, and it no longer
works with NVDA.
I am not comfortable with the default speech of NVDA which is ESpeak,
because I don't understand the speech, and it is even too low. I also
know of narrator, or Microsoft API5, but I am also not comfortable
with that too. That synthesizer is also too low.
So, are there any free other synshesisers that I can try out.
At the moment I am managing the 40-minute version of JAWS.
Regards.
I am Ibrahim.

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:20 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free synthesiser

Hi

There are 2 packages in this zip file.

one is the speech platform synth and voices there are quite a few languages there.

You need to install the run time file first then the synths.

the other one is RH voices and synths .

I will leave it in the drop box for 24 hours or so and you can download it from https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kh3aip9atldlho/synth%20packages.zip?dl=1

The speech hub package page can be found at

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/index.html

there you can find out more info about it  and its synths/voices.

you will need also to download the latest add on for 2020.1  or it might

be the version before.

The synth package will need to be installed first then you must install

the add on for nvda to see those synths/voices.

the link to the page where you can read more about it can be found at

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeechHub/public/docs/NVDAClient/index.html

The other one I just copied off my how to add additional components page

but the voices are at the bottom of this page can be found at

http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm

This was the page it came off which points to other free and paid

synth/voice packages at

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20install%20additional%20nvda%20components.html

hope it helps.

Gene nz

On 13/07/2020 3:23 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

> At the moment I am still using windows7 32bit. I am finding i

> difficult to upgrade from windows 7 to 10.

> So let me know aboutthe synthesizers you talked about.

> Ibrahim.

> 

> On 7/13/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

>> Hi

>> 

>> 

>> Which version of windows?

>> 

>> does it have to be in a certain language or is english ok.

>> 

>> 

>> Speech platform synth/voices might do the trick if before windows 10 I

>> have not tried them on Windows 10.

>> 

>> 

>> There is also the speech hub program that will work on computers from 7

>> to 10 but only in english.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Gene nz

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 13/07/2020 12:15 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

>>> Hi good people:

>>> I am in ee of a free synthesizer for NVDA.

>>> 

>>> Before now, I used the I used the auto language for eloquence. I

>>> didn't know that that program was a cracked one, and it no  longer

>>> works with NVDA.

>>> I am not comfortable with the default speech of NVDA which is ESpeak,

>>> because I don't understand the speech, and it is even too low. I also

>>> know of narrator, or Microsoft API5, but I am also not comfortable

>>> with that too. That synthesizer is also too low.

>>> So, are there any free other synshesisers that I can try out.

>>> At the moment I am managing the 40-minute version of JAWS.

>>> Regards.

>>> I am Ibrahim.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

> 

Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.

You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them.  Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want headers read.

 

Quentin

 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io <samtaylor9=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,

11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when navigating around Excel worksheets.

I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.

The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than reading any additional cell references.

I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in NVDA's Document Formatting settings.

y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly likely to be user error.

Cheers

Sam

 

 

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On 7/13/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> Hi

> 

> 

> Which version of windows?

> 

> does it have to be in a certain language or is english ok.

> 

> 

> Speech platform synth/voices might do the trick if before windows 10 I

> have not tried them on Windows 10.

> 

> 

> There is also the speech hub program that will work on computers from 7

> to 10 but only in english.

> 

> 

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> 

> 

> On 13/07/2020 12:15 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

>> Hi good people:

>> I am in ee of a free synthesizer for NVDA.

>> 

>> Before now, I used the I used the auto language for eloquence. I

>> didn't know that that program was a cracked one, and it no  longer

>> works with NVDA.

>> I am not comfortable with the default speech of NVDA which is ESpeak,

>> because I don't understand the speech, and it is even too low. I also

>> know of narrator, or Microsoft API5, but I am also not comfortable

>> with that too. That synthesizer is also too low.

>> So, are there any free other synshesisers that I can try out.

>> At the moment I am managing the 40-minute version of JAWS.

>> Regards.

>> I am Ibrahim.

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

>

> 

>