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Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager
Sam Taylor
You could also press windows x, followed by t. :)
On 17/07/2020 12:48 pm, Fresh Start
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amazing tip from you guys on the task manager
Fresh Start
I have been using windows since it’s beginnings and never heard of control shift ane escape. I’ve always used alt control delete. Thanks for the alternative method.
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nvda or JAWSnot using the default sound card
Fresh Start
Greetings all, I have encountered a never before experienced audio issue. I bought a Lenovo computer with Windows ten home on it to use only for audio editing. The onboard card, realtech, was one of those with only one jack. It was suppose to be an input and output combo which apparently is common on newer computers. This did not work well when I sent my mixer through it. So I bought a new Creative sound blaster FX card. I have set this as the system default. Disabled the realtech card. Set NVDA to use this the Creative sound blaster FX card under preferences, settings, speech etc. The CD player and all windows sounds come through this card. But NVDA or JAWS will not. Not even narrator. A very interesting thing happened when I uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled to see if that is the problem. The usual welcome music that comes on when NVDA is installing played. When finished. It would not speak. My sighted wife helped me uninstall and reinstall NVDA. I then tried installing JAWS from my original disc. All went fine since my wife was doing all the clicking. But again, when finished, no screen reader speech. I Found an article by Jonathan Mosen from 2018 where it was suggested to use a program called Silenzio written by Stefan Kiss. It sends sound to the card to prevent it from sleeping. But I don’t think the card is hibernating. The windows functions make sounds and CD player sends music to the Creative sound blaster FX card. So do any of you wizards have an idea what to do? This is a Windows ten computer with 12 gb of ram, a SSD one terabyte storage drive and an extra one for storage.
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Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 06:59 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
We have windows defender.- It's easy for anyone to know "now days" and has been for years. There are a number of large, very well-known, and well-respected organizations that do testing on security suites over and over and over again and frequently enough to let anyone who cares to look at their results know how things stand not only here and now, but historically if you look at the earlier testing results. Where a given product lands depends on exactly how the given organization tests, but you will see clear trends regarding what security suites are best, and have been best for some time. Windows Defender has been a top-shelf product, being in the top ten results consistently, since its major rework under Windows 8, and that has been carried over in to Windows 10. Look at the most recent testing results from the following antivirus/security testing labs, along with the historical results from the past several years if you want to see how Windows Security/Defender has been performing. Windows Security has been solidly in the top 10, often top 5, and frequently beats out several well-known competitors that one must pay for. SE Labs (Reports Page) MRG Effitas (360 Protection Testing Category) Virtually everything that's been mentioned here about the waxing and waning of accessibility with third-party security products has been said repeatedly. Even my advice regarding how to find something that's as close to "objective" information about how various security suites perform "in real life, in the wild" have been offered before. At this point, I'm requesting that this topic be brought rapidly to a close, though I'm not locking it. If you want a product that is maximally accessible, and extremely good at its intended purpose, then use Windows Security. It's just that simple. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Well this issue happens on an exit command from word 2019.
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It doesn't happen on 2016. Word exits, it maybe taking time to do so though powering narator at the point word exits shows it has in deed exited to desktop. In 10 seconds or so word will complete exiting to desktop as far as nvda gives a damn. However at that point nvda will not read anything right like search boxes till I restart it. Luckily running nvda again will restart it. I have yet to try it on the rc but assuming it is going on the rc its almost like nvda is waiting for catch up.
On 17/07/2020 8:56 am, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
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Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA
I tried sophos home but because of those false positives, the program went through my drive and other things and deleted everything that was bad.
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As you can imagine, I had a nice long load of errors, reinstalling several programs, a reformat so windows would stop saying errors at me, etc. I have come to the conclusion that security software doesn't like any disabled people or at least not blind gamers like myself. I like windows defender because I can control it without losing to much and if I do its easy to fix.
On 17/07/2020 1:11 am, Gene wrote:
That's not surprising. Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't work with screen-readers. It may work with JAWS; you might want to try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.
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Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA
Yeah, there is an article on a blog I am on on this.
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We have windows defender. That aparently is actually quite crappy now but with so many false positives who knows now days. Someone says that kaspersky cloud is supposed to be good. However I have so many games, and files which are false alarms even to malwarebytes, most of them bgt games, then the virtual recorder program and a few other actual programs, that I have lived with a lot of my drives excluded, my data drive is completely excluded, my backup drives are also excluded. In fact all drive letters through to h are excluded from scanning, so are a lot of folders in program files. Anything which is blindness related is excluded. The only things the checker notices are windows itself and my user account and downloads, I have even excluded all my cloud locations because if there is a virus, the cloud system like dropbox becomes nicely stuck.
On 17/07/2020 1:11 am, Gene wrote:
That's not surprising. Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't work with screen-readers. It may work with JAWS; you might want to try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.
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Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA
David Goldfield
To Gene's point I can tell you that Kaspersky Antivirus, while its accessibility is far from ideal, works much better with NVDA than it does with JAWS. With JAWS I need to use the touch cursor to review the screen, which is similar to NVDA's object navigation. With NVDA navigating with the tab key does at least provide some feedback although there are instances where using object navigation is needed.
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On 7/16/2020 2:21 PM, Gene wrote:
It depends. Years ago, Avast wasn't accessible with screen-readers. In order to allow information to reach JAWS from Avast, the developers explicitly told Avast to let JAWS see the information. Without that explicit exception, allowing information to reach the screen-reader was stopped by the self defense system of NVDA.
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Re: strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.
Chris
I know what you said, if the browser that is opening is not your default then that is your default, I don't know what or where you are checking your defaults but obviously it's not correct, You could check by clicking one of the links in this email and see what browser opens then
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On 16 Jul 2020, at 22:10, Kevin Cussick via groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.
Kevin Cussick
I have said it was I checked before posting thanks.
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On 16/07/2020 22:08, Chris via groups.io wrote:
If firefox is opening then edge cannot be your default browser
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Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete
Luke Robinett
I’ve been using Windows operating systems since the early 90s and I am reluctantly going to admit that I had no idea there was another way to get to the task manager besides control alt delete. See? Even us seasoned vets can learn something new from this great forum. Thanks folks
On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Laughing Thunder <laughingthunder26@...> wrote:
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Re: strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.
Chris
If firefox is opening then edge cannot be your default browser
From: Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: 16 July 2020 22:02 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.
Hi, thanks for this will do it but just got rid of firefox.
On 16/07/2020 18:56, CARLOS-ESTEBAN wrote: > Hello. > You need to configure Edge for open files *.htm and *.html. > Regards. > Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías. > Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el > uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. > Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA. > > Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in > the use of screen readers and technology. > Certified expert in screen reader NVDA. > > > > El mié., 15 de jul. de 2020 a la(s) 15:49, Kevin Cussick via groups.io > <http://groups.io> (the.big.white.shepherd@... > <mailto:googlemail.com@groups.io>) escribió: > > Hi all, I have MS edge as the default browser, but each time I hit > nvda h then the letter n for WATS new firefox opens why? and Yes it is > set to edge as default. > > > >
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Re: strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.
Kevin Cussick
Hi, thanks for this will do it but just got rid of firefox.
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On 16/07/2020 18:56, CARLOS-ESTEBAN wrote:
Hello.
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Hi all,
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Based on the log posted by Luke, it appears NVDA is trying to obtain information from a control that no longer exists (according to accessibility API's) or something is grabbing NVDA's attention too long. Technical: I think there is a thread deadlock somewhere. The log fragment in question (see the GitHub issue Luke created) mostly points to threads trying to wait for something from its processing queue. This is evidenced by the fact that multiple threads are waiting for a response from a "dead" UIA element in regards to supported properties. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] office 2019 word and nvda I have created an issue for this. If it is happening to you and you want it fixed, please post a comment and possibly more information on this issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11391 Luke
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Luke Davis
Especially make sure you list your NVDA version, Office version, and Windows version.
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Luke Davis wrote:
I have created an issue for this. If it is happening to you and you want it fixed, please post a comment and possibly more information on this issue:
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Luke Davis
I have created an issue for this. If it is happening to you and you want it fixed, please post a comment and possibly more information on this issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11391 Luke
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Luke Davis
Can you test whether this only happens if you use the keyboard shortcut letter, or also if you use the button directly?
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For example: Start Word. Press enter to open a new document. Enter some text. Press alt+F4 to exit. If you press "n" at this point, I assume you get the freeze. I know I do. However if you do all of that again, but instead of pressing "n" you tab to "Don't save" and press enter, do you get the same freeze? I don't. I can not replicate the part about NVDA not reading the search box properly. Try a Com Registration Fix for that, and also possibly try running with add-ons disabled. Thanks Luke
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I have not got a log for this but it happens every time I open office 2019 and then after closing it.
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Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites
Gene
My last and proper correction. I should have said numpad slash wherever I said numpad star or asterisk. So the sequence is:
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Numpad enter numpad slash, followed by just numpad slash. I'm sorry about the errors. Gene
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From: Gene Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 2:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA links and buttons on websites I made an error in the message quoted below. Where I said to use numpad star, I meant to say numpad asterisk. To clarify, the command to move the cursor to the navigator position, in this case to the control, is num;pad enter, numpad asterisk. The left mouse click is just num;pad asterisk. So the sequence would be numpad enter, numpad asterisk, followed by just num;pad asterisk. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Gene Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA links and buttons on websites Another way that may work is to move the mouse to the control and clicking it. If the person is using the desktop layout, do the following: Be on the control. Issue the command numpad enter numpad star. That is, hold numpad enter, then press star. That moves the mouse to the control. Click the mouse using just the star key. So the seaquence is num;pad insert num;pad star, then star. If that doesn't work, be on the control, turn off Browse Mode, then press the space bar on the button. If it’s a link, try enter. Also, some links may not work unless you move beyond the first letter of it. While in browse mode, right arrow once past the first letter, then try enter. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Hettie Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:44 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA links and buttons on websites Hi all Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him. Hettie -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA
Scott Berry
Gene,
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I am not taking that for granted. I just wanted to moreless let people know my experience. It works fine in Jaws so that's what aI use for it.
On 7/16/2020 12:21 PM, Gene wrote:
It depends. Years ago, Avast wasn't accessible with screen-readers. In order to allow information to reach JAWS from Avast, the developers explicitly told Avast to let JAWS see the information. Without that explicit exception, allowing information to reach the screen-reader was stopped by the self defense system of NVDA.
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Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites
Gene
I made an error in the message quoted below. Where I said to use numpad star, I meant to say numpad asterisk.
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To clarify, the command to move the cursor to the navigator position, in this case to the control, is num;pad enter, numpad asterisk. The left mouse click is just num;pad asterisk. So the sequence would be numpad enter, numpad asterisk, followed by just num;pad asterisk. Gene
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From: Gene Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA links and buttons on websites Another way that may work is to move the mouse to the control and clicking it. If the person is using the desktop layout, do the following: Be on the control. Issue the command numpad enter numpad star. That is, hold numpad enter, then press star. That moves the mouse to the control. Click the mouse using just the star key. So the seaquence is num;pad insert num;pad star, then star. If that doesn't work, be on the control, turn off Browse Mode, then press the space bar on the button. If it’s a link, try enter. Also, some links may not work unless you move beyond the first letter of it. While in browse mode, right arrow once past the first letter, then try enter. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Hettie Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 5:44 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA links and buttons on websites Hi all Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him. Hettie -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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