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Re: caret browsing question?
Gene
Those who use Windows 10 Narrator may be able to discuss the question more. But for one thing, we don't even know if any screen-reader is aware of the virtual cursor used in caret browsing. Just because a virtual cursor is present doesn't mean a screen-reader is aware of it and I doubt it is. Just because a real cursor is present, doesn't mean a screen-reader is necessarily aware of it.
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I just tried an experiment. I turned off browse mode in NVDA. I then turned on the virtual cursor in Firefox. NVDA didn't respond in any way when I moved the arrow keys. Gene
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From: David Csercsics Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] caret browsing question? Interesting. I figured it was redundant, but I guess you'd need it without the virtual buffer, so it's probably more useful for things like narrator then.
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Re: caret browsing question?
thanks for your question.
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i was curious about caret browsing too. i enabled caret browsing and it did not work for me at all! i even could not navigate web pages with arrow keys!
On 7/18/20, David Csercsics <bleeblat@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: caret browsing question?
i enabled caret browsing and it did not work for me at all!
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i even could not navigate web pages with arrow keys!
On 7/18/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Its for sighted people and does nothing regarding the Virtual PC Cursor or --
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Re: caret browsing question?
David Csercsics
Interesting. I figured it was redundant, but I guess you'd need it without the virtual buffer, so it's probably more useful for things like narrator then.
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Re: caret browsing question?
Gene
Its for sighted people and does nothing regarding the Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode, two names for the same thing. We already have a virtual cursor.
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the explanation I've seen is that carret browsing is for helping sighted people select text with the keyboard. We can already do that. Gene
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From: David Csercsics Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:32 PM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] caret browsing question? Does the "caret browsing" setting in most web browsers help NVDA at all? Just a curiosity. I know you used to apparently need it for Windows mail, but is it recommended for browsing the web?
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caret browsing question?
David Csercsics
Does the "caret browsing" setting in most web browsers help NVDA at all? Just a curiosity. I know you used to apparently need it for Windows mail, but is it recommended for browsing the web?
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Rui Fontes
See if that is enough:
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IO - external:globalPlugins.NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin.commandKeysSelectiveAnnouncementAndRemanence.MyInputManager.executeKeyboardGesture (21:19:59.334) - winInputHook (9456): Input: kb(desktop):alt+f4 DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (21:19:59.899) - watchdog (14408): Trying to recover from freeze, core stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 215, in <module> File "core.pyc", line 545, in main File "wx\core.pyc", line 2134, in MainLoop File "gui\__init__.pyc", line 1052, in Notify File "core.pyc", line 514, in run File "IAccessibleHandler\__init__.pyc", line 903, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler\__init__.pyc", line 578, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler\__init__.pyc", line 531, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 582, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 560, in _isUIAWindowHelper IO - inputCore.logTimeSinceInput (21:20:20.583) - MainThread (8240): 21.249 sec since input IO - speech.speak (21:20:20.583) - MainThread (8240): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('pt_PT'), 'C:\\Livros', 'janela'] Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Às 00:50 de 18/07/2020, Luke Davis escreveu:
It could be nice to have a debug level log of one of these cases where closing Word in this way results in other Windows elements, including Word, not working.
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my github issue solved
Hi.
Ok, I can get access to github. Interestingly, I can only do this on google chrome or edge chromium. Oh and I need to be logged in to clone. Anyway after I find a menu called add file I can then click the code button and get access to things for a zip. If I put .git at the end of a project I can clone in github easily enough. I just wish there was a way to have a classic github mode though, while I often don't need a perminant project sometimes I want to get a look see for the hell of it and don't want to keep it. It can be done, oh well there is microsoft influancing github. On the up side, in some services, microsoft allows github logins and accounts. However I can't find the signin link to github unless I directly go to github/login but then neither can I download skype without going to skype.com/download so whatever.
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Well if you guys can leave this issue open till tuesday I may have access to a laptop with the formentioned issue on.
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I may get access earlier but for now thats the best I can do. I technically had access to something yesterday but I was so screwed up with a cold I didn't have the energy to get out of bed.
On 18/07/2020 11:50 am, Luke Davis wrote:
It could be nice to have a debug level log of one of these cases where closing Word in this way results in other Windows elements, including Word, not working.
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Luke Davis
It could be nice to have a debug level log of one of these cases where closing Word in this way results in other Windows elements, including Word, not working.
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I was not able to replicate that portion of the scenario. Please consider either posting one on the github issue, or sending one privately. Luke
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, Daniel Damacena wrote:
It happens to me sometimes, but not exactly when I close Office 19.I can solve this openning the task manager with control + shift + esc and restarting
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Re: Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA
I actually don't bother with this at least with nvda. I do a windows key and r for run and type nvda. Make sure the shortcut is there and just run it. If the properties are not conflicting with something else well. I have seen strangeness with keyboards doing weird things, if its wireless it could be battery related. The ms boards don't seem to tell status, the logitech stuff seems to though.
On 18/07/2020 1:18 am, David Kingsbury
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Also for those having issues on the other list, with office, its a known bug, try running any office program, ie word and updating again. There aparently is a way to get round that. The user with the screwed up install probably has to reinstall his computer completely though. There are 2 bugs according to winaero, and I forget their status.
On 18/07/2020 12:00 am, rowen brian
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Daniel Damacena
It happens to me sometimes, but not exactly when I close Office 19. I can solve this openning the task manager with control + shift + esc and restarting windows explorer process. Em sex., 17 de jul. de 2020 às 11:52, rowen brian <manchen0528@...> escreveu:
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Re: Microsoft Edge
g melconian
Nope using the edge chromium base since 1909 and now using it as my default browser on windows 10 2004.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jennifer Aucoin
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 4:00 PM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Edge
Is anyone having issues using Edge? My husband can’t get the minimize and close to work.
Get Outlook for iOS
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Microsoft Edge
Jennifer Aucoin
Is anyone having issues using Edge? My husband can’t get the minimize and close to work.
Get
Outlook for iOS
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Luke Davis
Sorry, I mis-spoke. I was referring to the core devs (Reef, Mic).
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Hi,
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Actually, devs do monitor this list (I do, and so does Quentin). Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 3:22 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] office 2019 word and nvda Rowen and all If you want to contribute to this problem getting solved, please post your experiences on the issue created for it. The devs do not monitor this list. There is one senior user reporting on the issue that Office 365 does not have this problem. If your experience is otherwise (this goes for everyone), please take the time to mention it on the official bug tracker, and follow any trouble shooting steps that are recommended there. The link again is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11391 It's not hard to do, and it's very accessible. Luke On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, rowen brian wrote: I am using office365, Confirm that this problem exists. The content of
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Re: office 2019 word and nvda
Luke Davis
Rowen and all
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If you want to contribute to this problem getting solved, please post your experiences on the issue created for it. The devs do not monitor this list. There is one senior user reporting on the issue that Office 365 does not have this problem. If your experience is otherwise (this goes for everyone), please take the time to mention it on the official bug tracker, and follow any trouble shooting steps that are recommended there. The link again is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11391 It's not hard to do, and it's very accessible. Luke
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, rowen brian wrote:
I am using office365, Confirm that this problem exists. The content of the start menu will not be read after closing Word. It also won't read the contents
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Re: strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.
Kevin Cussick
settings apps default apps and edge. ff is no more so it doesn't matter. and as I said edge was the default. I changed it to ff then put it back but it still opened in ff.
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On 16/07/2020 22:32, Chris via groups.io wrote:
I know what you said, if the browser that is opening is not your default then that is your default, I don't know what or where you are checking your defaults but obviously it's not correct, You could check by clicking one of the links in this email and see what browser opens thenOn 16 Jul 2020, at 22:10, Kevin Cussick via groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager
Dan Beaver
Oh, I see a bit better now. I thought it was a feature
outside of task mgr.
Thanks.
Dan Beaver On 7/17/2020 3:15 PM, Brian Vogel
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 03:10 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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