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Re: Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

Brian's Mail list account
 

I guess this means you are on the move then does it? Who is going to tell us on this list? I also note that there is a new name appearing on commits these days, is this the new programmer we were promised some time ago?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage


Hi,

Notice: this might be the penultimate NVDA release announcement from yours
truly (the last one being 2016.3 official).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 10:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage



Hi all,



NVDA 2016.3 RC1 is out. This release includes improvements to support
Microsoft Word and Excel, ability to disable individual add-ons from add-ons
manager, braille support improvements, enhancements to support Windows 10
Anniversary Update and more.

The news from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-3rc1-released/






Re: Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

Brian's Mail list account
 

I do feel finding the actual download on this page and trying to provide just an email address without doing the donation is a little bit awkward. Even I find it so. I personally think this page needs a rethink, at least to download the release candidate. What do others think?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 6:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage


Hi all,



NVDA 2016.3 RC1 is out. This release includes improvements to support
Microsoft Word and Excel, ability to disable individual add-ons from add-ons
manager, braille support improvements, enhancements to support Windows 10
Anniversary Update and more.

The news from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-3rc1-released/




Re: A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Brian's Mail list account
 

Must be cos its been bought bythe Chinese.
Actually not tried it myself.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera


Opera is an alternative web browser, that does seem to operate making use of a form of chrome for rendering the web contents, but, thus far, it's interface is better than chrome's own one - my opinion anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 4:35 AM, Arlene wrote:
Hi there: Is Opra a form of Crome? Or is it used for web coding?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 2:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Yup:

http://www.opera.com


But, I actually just installed it via ninite.com...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 11:01 PM, Arlene wrote:
That is still around? Opra? I heard about it in the old xp days!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

While had sort of forgotten about opera web browser since it didn't seem to work with screen readers a little while ago, realised that it nowadays seems to have implemented a sort of embedded form of chrome, which means that you can work perfectly well enough with it, along with NVDA.


And, the other advantage is that while it has a similar form of interface in terms of menu system to chrome, besides that, the interface is a lot cleaner/simpler, and, for example, shift+tab from address bar will in fact just take you to the web page contents.


Now, while haven't played around with all of it's settings as of yet, it does also, at the very least, make use of all the standard/same keystrokes as internet explorer, chrome, etc. - as in, keystrokes to open links in new popup windows, navigating back/forward through history, etc., and, it also seems to have a couple of nice, other tweaks, etc., like what it refers to as it's speed-dial, which lets you assign hotkeys to bring up specific websites, etc. etc.


Anyway, specifically what with it's cleaner form of an interface, but,
still being based on chrome, I am pretty sure this will be my default
browser - unless come across some specific problems...<smile>


And, lastly, FWIW, in the old sighted days, opera was also generally my browser of choice, simply since it was, even back then, basically a stripped down, cleaner interface, which is meant to be able to load webpages quicker, use less system resources, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."















A client to view list archives?

 

Hello,
Does anyone know of a program that will allow me to search through the archives of the nvda lists without needing to go to each website particular and dig through the archives?
I have an archive of emails for several years on my email, but my Google Drive is getting full and I still search NVDA archives all the time.
I would like a way where I can just choose the email lists I want to search, type in my search data and view all results from all the archives in one place. Then I click on them and they can open in what ever.
Does anyone know of a tool like this?
Thank you,


Ideal settings in Outlook 2016 exchange mail

Ketan Kothari
 

       


Re: could not load alva bc6 display

J.G
 

Hi,


it seems, that I'm not only one with this problem. In slovenian community there are some users, who use Alva BC6 displays and after updating NVDA from 2016.1 to newer version, displays have stopped working, and when we chose Alva BC6 from braille settings, NVDA said "could not load alva bc6 display" Downgrade was not a solution. it means, that this problem exists for all versions of BC6 series and on all OS.


please, please help, if you have any solution for this problem.


thx, Jožef


p.s. BTW NVDA does not use a latest BC6 driver.


p.s.2. is there any chanse that will VFO group (Optelec devision) develop customised drivers for NVDA for their products?


Re: Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

Afik Sofir <afik.sofir@...>
 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

 

Hi,

Notice: this might be the penultimate NVDA release announcement from yours truly (the last one being 2016.3 official).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 10:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

 

Hi all,

 

NVDA 2016.3 RC1 is out. This release includes improvements to support Microsoft Word and Excel, ability to disable individual add-ons from add-ons manager, braille support improvements, enhancements to support Windows 10 Anniversary Update and more.

The news from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-3rc1-released/

 


Re: A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Jacob Kruger
 

There are chrome extensions that are meant to help with that, but, haven't really tried them out yet, and, FWIW, can't currently get firefox to handle webvisum/captcha at all in any case - even if can get webvisum extension installed, if I enable it, that's when firefox and NVDA really don't seem to cooperate on my side.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 6:56 AM, Aravind R wrote:
does chrome or opera has image reading facility like firefox with webvisum?

On 8/23/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
On my side it seems as fast as chrome, but, haven't really done anything
like a form of speed-testing.


Main thing is that the interface definitely works better for me than
chrome, in terms of doing something simple like loading a webpage, and
getting to page contents immediately - I work with the web a lot.


And, while I like firefox, it does still seem to, at times, cause minor
lock-up issues with NVDA, but anyway.


But, yes, I am a web developer, so I actually switch between different
browsers for different forms of activity, or at times just to make sure
they react/act in similar fashions depending on what am playing around
with in terms of client-side activity, but anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 12:53 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,

I installed it earlier today and for most part it is very accessible.
I do find it just a bit slower than Chrome and Firefox though.


Regards,

Greg WOcher


On 8/22/2016 5:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Yup:

http://www.opera.com


But, I actually just installed it via ninite.com...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 11:01 PM, Arlene wrote:
That is still around? Opra? I heard about it in the old xp days!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

While had sort of forgotten about opera web browser since it didn't
seem to work with screen readers a little while ago, realised that
it nowadays seems to have implemented a sort of embedded form of
chrome, which means that you can work perfectly well enough with it,
along with NVDA.


And, the other advantage is that while it has a similar form of
interface in terms of menu system to chrome, besides that, the
interface is a lot cleaner/simpler, and, for example, shift+tab from
address bar will in fact just take you to the web page contents.


Now, while haven't played around with all of it's settings as of
yet, it does also, at the very least, make use of all the
standard/same keystrokes as internet explorer, chrome, etc. - as in,
keystrokes to open links in new popup windows, navigating
back/forward through history, etc., and, it also seems to have a
couple of nice, other tweaks, etc., like what it refers to as it's
speed-dial, which lets you assign hotkeys to bring up specific
websites, etc. etc.


Anyway, specifically what with it's cleaner form of an interface,
but, still being based on chrome, I am pretty sure this will be my
default browser - unless come across some specific problems...<smile>


And, lastly, FWIW, in the old sighted days, opera was also generally
my browser of choice, simply since it was, even back then, basically
a stripped down, cleaner interface, which is meant to be able to
load webpages quicker, use less system resources, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."















Re: A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Jacob Kruger
 

Ok, and, just tested it with a relatively data intensive webpage that am working with - 40 headings, and 1540 links on it, and used both server-side and client-side time output to compare loading times, and while chrome, opera and firefox took a second to load the page, internet explorer actually beat all of them, since it came out as 0 seconds - means it's probably something like half a second which got rounded down to 0.


This is on my own dev machine, so it has nothing to do with pulling data from a remote server, but, to do with loading the document object model for all elements, etc., and, NVDA didn't seem to act differently with any of these browsers in terms of how long it took to have buffered all the content.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 6:36 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
On my side it seems as fast as chrome, but, haven't really done anything like a form of speed-testing.


Main thing is that the interface definitely works better for me than chrome, in terms of doing something simple like loading a webpage, and getting to page contents immediately - I work with the web a lot.


And, while I like firefox, it does still seem to, at times, cause minor lock-up issues with NVDA, but anyway.


But, yes, I am a web developer, so I actually switch between different browsers for different forms of activity, or at times just to make sure they react/act in similar fashions depending on what am playing around with in terms of client-side activity, but anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 12:53 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,

I installed it earlier today and for most part it is very accessible. I do find it just a bit slower than Chrome and Firefox though.


Regards,

Greg WOcher


On 8/22/2016 5:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Yup:

http://www.opera.com


But, I actually just installed it via ninite.com...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 11:01 PM, Arlene wrote:
That is still around? Opra? I heard about it in the old xp days!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

While had sort of forgotten about opera web browser since it didn't seem to work with screen readers a little while ago, realised that it nowadays seems to have implemented a sort of embedded form of chrome, which means that you can work perfectly well enough with it, along with NVDA.


And, the other advantage is that while it has a similar form of interface in terms of menu system to chrome, besides that, the interface is a lot cleaner/simpler, and, for example, shift+tab from address bar will in fact just take you to the web page contents.


Now, while haven't played around with all of it's settings as of yet, it does also, at the very least, make use of all the standard/same keystrokes as internet explorer, chrome, etc. - as in, keystrokes to open links in new popup windows, navigating back/forward through history, etc., and, it also seems to have a couple of nice, other tweaks, etc., like what it refers to as it's speed-dial, which lets you assign hotkeys to bring up specific websites, etc. etc.


Anyway, specifically what with it's cleaner form of an interface, but, still being based on chrome, I am pretty sure this will be my default browser - unless come across some specific problems...<smile>


And, lastly, FWIW, in the old sighted days, opera was also generally my browser of choice, simply since it was, even back then, basically a stripped down, cleaner interface, which is meant to be able to load webpages quicker, use less system resources, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."


















Re: Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

 

Hi,

Notice: this might be the penultimate NVDA release announcement from yours truly (the last one being 2016.3 official).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 10:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

 

Hi all,

 

NVDA 2016.3 RC1 is out. This release includes improvements to support Microsoft Word and Excel, ability to disable individual add-ons from add-ons manager, braille support improvements, enhancements to support Windows 10 Anniversary Update and more.

The news from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-3rc1-released/

 


Please welcome NVDA 2016.3 release candidate 1 to the stage

 

Hi all,

 

NVDA 2016.3 RC1 is out. This release includes improvements to support Microsoft Word and Excel, ability to disable individual add-ons from add-ons manager, braille support improvements, enhancements to support Windows 10 Anniversary Update and more.

The news from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-3rc1-released/

 


NVDA Reads Unknown after installing Skype for business

Mohith BP
 

Hi List,

I am facing a strange problem in our office. The issue is there in at
least 10 laptops in our office.
After installing Skype for Business 2016, NVDA announces "Unknown" in
the "Alt+Tab list and in the web browsers.
I tried the below steps to fix the same however after restart the
issue remains the same:
Step 1 : log in as administrator
Step 2: run this script in command prompt: - for %x in
(c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
Step 3 reload nvda

Please let me know is there any solution or do I need to raise a ticket.


Thanks & Regards,
Mohith B. P.


Re: A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Aravind R
 

does chrome or opera has image reading facility like firefox with webvisum?

On 8/23/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:
On my side it seems as fast as chrome, but, haven't really done anything
like a form of speed-testing.


Main thing is that the interface definitely works better for me than
chrome, in terms of doing something simple like loading a webpage, and
getting to page contents immediately - I work with the web a lot.


And, while I like firefox, it does still seem to, at times, cause minor
lock-up issues with NVDA, but anyway.


But, yes, I am a web developer, so I actually switch between different
browsers for different forms of activity, or at times just to make sure
they react/act in similar fashions depending on what am playing around
with in terms of client-side activity, but anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 12:53 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,

I installed it earlier today and for most part it is very accessible.
I do find it just a bit slower than Chrome and Firefox though.


Regards,

Greg WOcher


On 8/22/2016 5:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Yup:

http://www.opera.com


But, I actually just installed it via ninite.com...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 11:01 PM, Arlene wrote:
That is still around? Opra? I heard about it in the old xp days!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

While had sort of forgotten about opera web browser since it didn't
seem to work with screen readers a little while ago, realised that
it nowadays seems to have implemented a sort of embedded form of
chrome, which means that you can work perfectly well enough with it,
along with NVDA.


And, the other advantage is that while it has a similar form of
interface in terms of menu system to chrome, besides that, the
interface is a lot cleaner/simpler, and, for example, shift+tab from
address bar will in fact just take you to the web page contents.


Now, while haven't played around with all of it's settings as of
yet, it does also, at the very least, make use of all the
standard/same keystrokes as internet explorer, chrome, etc. - as in,
keystrokes to open links in new popup windows, navigating
back/forward through history, etc., and, it also seems to have a
couple of nice, other tweaks, etc., like what it refers to as it's
speed-dial, which lets you assign hotkeys to bring up specific
websites, etc. etc.


Anyway, specifically what with it's cleaner form of an interface,
but, still being based on chrome, I am pretty sure this will be my
default browser - unless come across some specific problems...<smile>


And, lastly, FWIW, in the old sighted days, opera was also generally
my browser of choice, simply since it was, even back then, basically
a stripped down, cleaner interface, which is meant to be able to
load webpages quicker, use less system resources, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

















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Re: A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Jacob Kruger
 

On my side it seems as fast as chrome, but, haven't really done anything like a form of speed-testing.


Main thing is that the interface definitely works better for me than chrome, in terms of doing something simple like loading a webpage, and getting to page contents immediately - I work with the web a lot.


And, while I like firefox, it does still seem to, at times, cause minor lock-up issues with NVDA, but anyway.


But, yes, I am a web developer, so I actually switch between different browsers for different forms of activity, or at times just to make sure they react/act in similar fashions depending on what am playing around with in terms of client-side activity, but anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 12:53 AM, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,

I installed it earlier today and for most part it is very accessible. I do find it just a bit slower than Chrome and Firefox though.


Regards,

Greg WOcher


On 8/22/2016 5:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Yup:

http://www.opera.com


But, I actually just installed it via ninite.com...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 11:01 PM, Arlene wrote:
That is still around? Opra? I heard about it in the old xp days!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

While had sort of forgotten about opera web browser since it didn't seem to work with screen readers a little while ago, realised that it nowadays seems to have implemented a sort of embedded form of chrome, which means that you can work perfectly well enough with it, along with NVDA.


And, the other advantage is that while it has a similar form of interface in terms of menu system to chrome, besides that, the interface is a lot cleaner/simpler, and, for example, shift+tab from address bar will in fact just take you to the web page contents.


Now, while haven't played around with all of it's settings as of yet, it does also, at the very least, make use of all the standard/same keystrokes as internet explorer, chrome, etc. - as in, keystrokes to open links in new popup windows, navigating back/forward through history, etc., and, it also seems to have a couple of nice, other tweaks, etc., like what it refers to as it's speed-dial, which lets you assign hotkeys to bring up specific websites, etc. etc.


Anyway, specifically what with it's cleaner form of an interface, but, still being based on chrome, I am pretty sure this will be my default browser - unless come across some specific problems...<smile>


And, lastly, FWIW, in the old sighted days, opera was also generally my browser of choice, simply since it was, even back then, basically a stripped down, cleaner interface, which is meant to be able to load webpages quicker, use less system resources, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."














Re: A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Jacob Kruger
 

Opera is an alternative web browser, that does seem to operate making use of a form of chrome for rendering the web contents, but, thus far, it's interface is better than chrome's own one - my opinion anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-23 4:35 AM, Arlene wrote:
Hi there: Is Opra a form of Crome? Or is it used for web coding?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 2:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Yup:

http://www.opera.com


But, I actually just installed it via ninite.com...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 11:01 PM, Arlene wrote:
That is still around? Opra? I heard about it in the old xp days!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

While had sort of forgotten about opera web browser since it didn't seem to work with screen readers a little while ago, realised that it nowadays seems to have implemented a sort of embedded form of chrome, which means that you can work perfectly well enough with it, along with NVDA.


And, the other advantage is that while it has a similar form of interface in terms of menu system to chrome, besides that, the interface is a lot cleaner/simpler, and, for example, shift+tab from address bar will in fact just take you to the web page contents.


Now, while haven't played around with all of it's settings as of yet, it does also, at the very least, make use of all the standard/same keystrokes as internet explorer, chrome, etc. - as in, keystrokes to open links in new popup windows, navigating back/forward through history, etc., and, it also seems to have a couple of nice, other tweaks, etc., like what it refers to as it's speed-dial, which lets you assign hotkeys to bring up specific websites, etc. etc.


Anyway, specifically what with it's cleaner form of an interface, but,
still being based on chrome, I am pretty sure this will be my default
browser - unless come across some specific problems...<smile>


And, lastly, FWIW, in the old sighted days, opera was also generally my browser of choice, simply since it was, even back then, basically a stripped down, cleaner interface, which is meant to be able to load webpages quicker, use less system resources, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."














Re: How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Yep, the link worked fine for me also. Once I'd copied it, I just had to remove the space at the end I think and it took me straight to the download. Worked like a charm.


On 8/22/2016 9:18 PM, Gene wrote:
What is the full address?  It should not be necessary in modern browsers to type http://www. or http:// and then the address.  I haven't tried using a colon but I doubt that will help.  Yesterday, I cut and pasted the link into firefox as written, and I was able to follow it after removing the period.  But when giving links, people should give the full link.  Whatever it is http:// then the link or http://www. followed by the link. 
 
Browsers won't see a link with no prefix as a link.  It can't be clicked on.  It must be pasted into a browser.  And it may be, I don't know, that under certain conditions, a link with no prefix cannot be followed when pasted as is into a browser. 
 
The correct link in this case is:
 
Note that just placing a colon before the link is not correct.  :// is the correct syntax.  Also, there is no www. in this linik. 
 
If people don't have their screen-readers set to read punctuation, the various ways I've written for the beginnings of links should be read character by character to make sure no punctuation is missed. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

Hi,

If anyone typed http:// before, did it work? It should have redirected to https if so. If anyone got an error with simply http in there, please let me know, because my server has hsts set, so that means I can't connect to it insecurely because my browser won't, and anyone's browser won't after their first visit to my site.


On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Governor staten wrote:

Thanks Jim! Chalk it up as a lapse of thinking for me. :)





On 8/22/2016 7:15 AM, The Gamages wrote:
you need to type http:\\ before the address if it’s not already there in your browser.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.
 
It works here. I don't know why you are having a problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

I looked character by character. I deleted the period from the end and any trailing spaces at the end as well. I get an error 404 not found. This is the link to the self extracting executable. I haven't tried the other link yet.


On 8/21/2016 3:31 AM, Gene wrote:
If a link doesn't work, look at it character by character.  If you copied the link to the address bar in your browser, you probably copied the period that ended the sentence immediately after the link.  Copy the link to the address bar, move to the end with the end command, back space once to remove the period, then follow the link. 
 
Gene
 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.
 

What error do you get?


On 8/20/2016 11:14 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'd like to get these files. It appears that the link doesn't work.





On 8/21/2016 12:51 AM, derek riemer wrote:
yesterday I mentioned the course to 
teach potential NVDACon editors
how to edit audio, in hopes of getting people interested in helping
with post-production of the NVDACon sessions. If you are interested in
challenge problems and exercises that are encouraged for those
learning audio editing, you can download them at
files.derekriemer.com/audacity_editing_class.exe.

Note that this is simply a 7zip self-extracting archive. If you are
weary of running executables, you can install 7zip, and unpack the
archive from this link (It's the exact same files, just not
self-extracting). files.derekriemer.com/audacity_editing_class.7z

Also, under this folder is challenge.wav. This is the audio of the
class I ran on teamtalk today. It is unedited, so that you can
practice making a post-production ready audio file. In order to
compress to mp3 in audacity, you need to install the laime library for
MP3 encoding. This is clearly documented on the audacity website
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Lame_Installation


--

Derek Riemer

  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

mailto:derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194




--

Derek Riemer

  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

email me at derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194



Re: A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Arlene
 

Hi there: Is Opra a form of Crome? Or is it used for web coding?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 2:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

Yup:

http://www.opera.com


But, I actually just installed it via ninite.com...<smile>


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 11:01 PM, Arlene wrote:
That is still around? Opra? I heard about it in the old xp days!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-22-16 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A better interface to working with chrome - opera

While had sort of forgotten about opera web browser since it didn't seem to work with screen readers a little while ago, realised that it nowadays seems to have implemented a sort of embedded form of chrome, which means that you can work perfectly well enough with it, along with NVDA.


And, the other advantage is that while it has a similar form of interface in terms of menu system to chrome, besides that, the interface is a lot cleaner/simpler, and, for example, shift+tab from address bar will in fact just take you to the web page contents.


Now, while haven't played around with all of it's settings as of yet, it does also, at the very least, make use of all the standard/same keystrokes as internet explorer, chrome, etc. - as in, keystrokes to open links in new popup windows, navigating back/forward through history, etc., and, it also seems to have a couple of nice, other tweaks, etc., like what it refers to as it's speed-dial, which lets you assign hotkeys to bring up specific websites, etc. etc.


Anyway, specifically what with it's cleaner form of an interface, but,
still being based on chrome, I am pretty sure this will be my default
browser - unless come across some specific problems...<smile>


And, lastly, FWIW, in the old sighted days, opera was also generally my browser of choice, simply since it was, even back then, basically a stripped down, cleaner interface, which is meant to be able to load webpages quicker, use less system resources, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."









Re: How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

Gene
 

What is the full address?  It should not be necessary in modern browsers to type http://www. or http:// and then the address.  I haven't tried using a colon but I doubt that will help.  Yesterday, I cut and pasted the link into firefox as written, and I was able to follow it after removing the period.  But when giving links, people should give the full link.  Whatever it is http:// then the link or http://www. followed by the link. 
 
Browsers won't see a link with no prefix as a link.  It can't be clicked on.  It must be pasted into a browser.  And it may be, I don't know, that under certain conditions, a link with no prefix cannot be followed when pasted as is into a browser. 
 
The correct link in this case is:
 
Note that just placing a colon before the link is not correct.  :// is the correct syntax.  Also, there is no www. in this linik. 
 
If people don't have their screen-readers set to read punctuation, the various ways I've written for the beginnings of links should be read character by character to make sure no punctuation is missed. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

Hi,

If anyone typed http:// before, did it work? It should have redirected to https if so. If anyone got an error with simply http in there, please let me know, because my server has hsts set, so that means I can't connect to it insecurely because my browser won't, and anyone's browser won't after their first visit to my site.


On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Governor staten wrote:

Thanks Jim! Chalk it up as a lapse of thinking for me. :)





On 8/22/2016 7:15 AM, The Gamages wrote:
you need to type http:\\ before the address if it’s not already there in your browser.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.
 
It works here. I don't know why you are having a problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

I looked character by character. I deleted the period from the end and any trailing spaces at the end as well. I get an error 404 not found. This is the link to the self extracting executable. I haven't tried the other link yet.


On 8/21/2016 3:31 AM, Gene wrote:
If a link doesn't work, look at it character by character.  If you copied the link to the address bar in your browser, you probably copied the period that ended the sentence immediately after the link.  Copy the link to the address bar, move to the end with the end command, back space once to remove the period, then follow the link. 
 
Gene
 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.
 

What error do you get?


On 8/20/2016 11:14 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'd like to get these files. It appears that the link doesn't work.





On 8/21/2016 12:51 AM, derek riemer wrote:
yesterday I mentioned the course to 
teach potential NVDACon editors
how to edit audio, in hopes of getting people interested in helping
with post-production of the NVDACon sessions. If you are interested in
challenge problems and exercises that are encouraged for those
learning audio editing, you can download them at
files.derekriemer.com/audacity_editing_class.exe.

Note that this is simply a 7zip self-extracting archive. If you are
weary of running executables, you can install 7zip, and unpack the
archive from this link (It's the exact same files, just not
self-extracting). files.derekriemer.com/audacity_editing_class.7z

Also, under this folder is challenge.wav. This is the audio of the
class I ran on teamtalk today. It is unedited, so that you can
practice making a post-production ready audio file. In order to
compress to mp3 in audacity, you need to install the laime library for
MP3 encoding. This is clearly documented on the audacity website
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Lame_Installation


--

Derek Riemer

  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

mailto:derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194




--

Derek Riemer

  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

email me at derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194


Re: How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

derek riemer
 

Hi,

If anyone typed http:// before, did it work? It should have redirected to https if so. If anyone got an error with simply http in there, please let me know, because my server has hsts set, so that means I can't connect to it insecurely because my browser won't, and anyone's browser won't after their first visit to my site.


On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Governor staten wrote:

Thanks Jim! Chalk it up as a lapse of thinking for me. :)





On 8/22/2016 7:15 AM, The Gamages wrote:
you need to type http:\\ before the address if it’s not already there in your browser.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.
 
It works here. I don't know why you are having a problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.

I looked character by character. I deleted the period from the end and any trailing spaces at the end as well. I get an error 404 not found. This is the link to the self extracting executable. I haven't tried the other link yet.


On 8/21/2016 3:31 AM, Gene wrote:
If a link doesn't work, look at it character by character.  If you copied the link to the address bar in your browser, you probably copied the period that ended the sentence immediately after the link.  Copy the link to the address bar, move to the end with the end command, back space once to remove the period, then follow the link. 
 
Gene
 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to do post-production work in audacity class exercises are now available.
 

What error do you get?


On 8/20/2016 11:14 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'd like to get these files. It appears that the link doesn't work.





On 8/21/2016 12:51 AM, derek riemer wrote:
yesterday I mentioned the course to 
teach potential NVDACon editors
how to edit audio, in hopes of getting people interested in helping
with post-production of the NVDACon sessions. If you are interested in
challenge problems and exercises that are encouraged for those
learning audio editing, you can download them at
files.derekriemer.com/audacity_editing_class.exe.

Note that this is simply a 7zip self-extracting archive. If you are
weary of running executables, you can install 7zip, and unpack the
archive from this link (It's the exact same files, just not
self-extracting). files.derekriemer.com/audacity_editing_class.7z

Also, under this folder is challenge.wav. This is the audio of the
class I ran on teamtalk today. It is unedited, so that you can
practice making a post-production ready audio file. In order to
compress to mp3 in audacity, you need to install the laime library for
MP3 encoding. This is clearly documented on the audacity website
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Lame_Installation


--

Derek Riemer

  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

mailto:derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194




--

Derek Riemer

  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

email me at derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194


NVDA freezing in Microsoft Word 2016 when navigating to annotations

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

I have a word document with many annotations namely track changes and comments.
When I open it in Microsoft Word 2016, I switch to brows mode and then navigate
to annotations. NVDA gives me a list of headings presumably under which the
annotations are listed. I arrow to my heading of choice and hit enter. NVDA
freezes. I have no speech and have to reboot to get it back.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?
Pranav