Re: NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes
Quentin Christensen
Hi Sandra, GitHub is not difficult to use. You do need to create an account, but that simply requires and email address and password, as most sites do these days. As it happens though, this isn't actually a new bug, and there is an issue for it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7342 Kind regards Quentin.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:06 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA and language support
Quentin Christensen
Also for speech, it depends on the synthesizer - eg as Devin said, eSpeak-NG is one synthesizer, if you are using Windows OneCore Voices then it's up to Microsoft, and if you are using something else like Eloquence, it will be up to the manufacturer of that synthesizer. Like NVDA, eSpeak-NG is open source, and relies on volunteers to add features like new languages. if you happen to be able to speak another language which isn't currently supported and would like to have it added to the eSpeak-NG project, please see their page at: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/blob/master/docs/languages.md The other part of working in a particular language is NVDA's messages and settings. Like eSpeak-NG we also rely on native speaking volunteers around the world to translate NVDA. If you are in a position to help, we'd love to have your input. Please see our page at: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/Translating Kind regards Quentin.
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Re: Reading Graphics with NVDA
Quentin Christensen
The other thing which can help in some cases is NVDA's OCR. Navigate to the graphic, press NVDA+r, then use your regular navigation / reading keys to read the result. Press ESCAPE when done. It won't necessarily work with fancy graphical text (eg handwriting script or low contrast), but might help in some cases. Kind regards Quentin.
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Re: I can't read table of content with nvda
Quentin Christensen
Are you using any add-ons? If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled does it make a difference? (NVDA+Q, then down arrow to restart with add-ons disabled and enter). Also which version of Word, and which version of NVDA? Finally, if you could email me directly such a Word document, I can have a look and see if I can reproduce anything. Just having a look through our issues, I can't immediately see anything that looks similar. Maybe it is something to do with how the table of contents was created. Do you know if the files were created in Word, or imported from something else? Finally, one other thing you can do, particularly if it is how the TOC has been created, you could always select it, delete and recreate (ALT+S, then T, then either ENTER for the default, or select a TOC layout first hten enter). Regards Quentin.
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Re: Grammarly and NVDA
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Thanks much for the info. My actual grammar is quite good. My downfall is the comma, since I write by ear, I tend to use that little mark as I can make the spoken document sound as it should.
I will take your advice about expanding the Word checker. Rick & General
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Grammarly and NVDA
It is completely inaccessible with any screen reader. Your best option would be to change the grammar checker in MS Word to also check for styles, not just grammar. That's the only accessible avenue for grammar checking because all other third party solutions are not screen reader friendly.
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Re: Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in
Bob Jutzi
Already tried F6 to drop me in the address bar, then tabbing over to the
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notifications which didn't work so will just listen to the screen as suggested. Thanks.
On 8/4/2020 5:18 PM, Gene wrote:
Until you find the command, try using f6. You will move through
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Re: Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in
Gene
Until you find the command, try using f6. You will move through different parts of the window such as to the address bar, and perhaps to other parts including, I hope the notification. Also, if you let the full notification read when it starts, you will hear, at the end, shortcuts to do what is offered. Listen very carefully for such information. You may hear something like download, when you get an update message, followed by control d and then not now, control n. I'm not saying these are the actual commands, but they are examples of the kind of things you will hear. This means I usually don't have to look for the message, which is one reason I am giving you the f6 key as a guess since I so seldom need to look for the message...
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I've done quite a bit of searching out of curiosity since seeing your message but I haven't found the command. Gene
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From: Bob Jutzi Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 2:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in The Windows 10 toasts shortcut works but haven't found the one for Firefox notifications. On 8/4/2020 2:32 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi,
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Re: Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails
Gene
You don't have to silence speech. Pressing a command or any key or combination silences previous speech and then takes the action of the key or combination. Using a key like control silences speech just as any key or combination does but the point of doing so is to stop speech and not take another action as control takes no other action when used by itself.
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From: Howard Traxler Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 12:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails At my house, using thunderbird and NVDA, the subject is read three (and sometimes four) times thense NVDA procedes to read the rest of the story. When it starts to babble, I silence it then press NVDA plus a to read. Works fine. On 8/4/2020 10:04 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
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Re: NVDA in windows terminal on older Win 10 versions
Hmmm I understand that. I co manage a website, for ages and ages, there have been ahcks and the like. While I was able to fix a few things, and while something sql only took a week, its taken over a year just to get the system updated to the latest php 7.48, and to be honest I wasn't even expecting that. And then it was done without warning of any kind. It had 7.2 installed, and I was hoping at least 7.3 but they put it to the latest which seems to be automatically installing itself which is fine. Its all cash I guess. At the university I work with, the main super mainframes still run windows xp. They can't afford to update these, because it cost millions to install the entire load of them, and the extra equipment for the projects and such and its going to cost millions more to upgrade all the hardware. They have compromised with vms on win10 but they still complain. A while ago I made the push at some expence to at least have something that didn't need an old os. The last push was to get rid of some older software that I didn't need but which had worked but still. I am always making sure I have the latest because I always get the latest supporting software. Its really risky, but I prefer to fail, and have to reinstall everything and complain about it then than to field complaints from my users. I really don't like being in the back seat. I know its probably a pritty bad position to do but I have to many users forgetting their logins, installing malware by mistake and screwing up commands to have to be bundled with updates as well. I usually try to have the latest installed or as much as I can before its needed so when it is I don't need to field complaints from busy users. The only thing that does throw me is when I go to upgrade some hardware or software and that thing either is different or doesn't exist as it did before meaning I need to do upskilling and such at once. I need to help a user fix a remote network issue and well if my own solutions do not work will have to get them the added hardware which will be different. By chance I have the same component, so I could probably just give them my hardware and have the excuse to upgrade to something a bit better.
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:36 AM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
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Re: NVDA in windows terminal on older Win 10 versions
Well you can simply tell your company that you can not do your job properly without upgrading to the latest version of windows. Even if that only gets you 1909 or 1903 or whatever you simply will have to say that. If you don't get this, either ask to do the work on your own system or if not say you may have no choice but to bring your personal computer to do your job. That may get a rise out of em. I have gotten to that point with some places I have done some work with them. Basically I had to do something in something which wasn't accessible and told my bosses I would then have to take my system to their place and connect to their secured network that does not allow personal computers to connect to. Not without rewriting everything that is. They eventually saw my point. I know my brother himself an enginier working in a company, has systems that need well access to certain things on older systems and runs vmware images of things. Point is, no one will want you to have your personal system on a locked down company network. It will be easier for them to fix their problem in house. On the other hand if they refuse who knows. Not sure about the remote stuff for various things, but you never know. In my day a few years before covid, that was not possible but they may just do that now. My brother is working at a big company and they seem to be entertained with a work from home at least in part via remote workstation of the company. It certainly means you have a extra time to do a few chores while working. If this virus has improved things it is that companies seem to be happier about people working away from any office, and in fact as long as you have net access you can work anywhere you want. And while I don't work in a company as such I can work from home, excercise, go out and enjoy life and can still work while listening to my cds, digital collection or my spotify enabled stereo while drinking coffee and eating home cooked meals.
On 5/08/2020 3:35 am, Ralf Kefferpuetz
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Re: NVDA in windows terminal on older Win 10 versions
Well why don't you ask your it people to upgrade you to 2004, I am sure others will be getting the next version upgrade.
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On 4/08/2020 11:23 pm, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
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Re: NVDA and MathML content, plus Hi from Jay at AC
Sean
I did not know that MathML can be read in a format such as Word or PDF. If I am going to write math formulas, I use matjax. And I use Chrome.
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Re: Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in
Bob Jutzi
The Windows 10 toasts shortcut works but haven't found the one for Firefox notifications.
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On 8/4/2020 2:32 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in
Hi,
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Those are two completely different things. I know that Firefox has a command to move focus to notifications, and for Windows 10 toasts, press Windows+Shift+V. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Jutzi Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in So how do we access those Windows 10 toasts which pop up when connecting drives as well as those Firefox pop-ups notifications? On 8/4/2020 2:28 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi,
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Re: Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in
Bob Jutzi
So how do we access those Windows 10 toasts which pop up when connecting drives as well as those Firefox pop-ups notifications?
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On 8/4/2020 2:28 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in
Hi,
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The app modules Mozilla Enhancements add-on relied on are now gone in NVDA alpha builds as part of a cleanup effort to remove outdated code in NVDA, as these app modules were used in the day when NVDA needed some workarounds to let users use Firefox and Thunderbird more effectively. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Jutzi Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in Sorry if this was previously addressed, but when running both V1.10 of the Mozilla Enhanced add-in and the latest NVDA Master, I am getting an "error in app" when launching Thunderbird and Firefox. I tried both V11 and the newest developer release of the add-in which result in the same error.
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Re: Error when using the latest NVDA Master with the Enhanced Mozilla Add-in
Bob Jutzi
Sorry if this was previously addressed, but when running both V1.10 of
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the Mozilla Enhanced add-in and the latest NVDA Master, I am getting an "error in app" when launching Thunderbird and Firefox. I tried both V11 and the newest developer release of the add-in which result in the same error.
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Re: Selecting text
Luke Davis
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Gene wrote:
When you get to the beginning of what you want to select, issue the command NVDA f9. Move to the end of what you want to select and issue the command NVDA f10 quickly. You should hear something indicating that text was selected. To copy text to the clipboard, issue the command twice quickly, not once.Or install the Classic Selection add-on so you only have to issue it once, like it should be. Luke
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Re: Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails
Howard Traxler
At my house, using thunderbird and NVDA, the subject is read three (and sometimes four) times thense NVDA procedes to read the rest of the story. When it starts to babble, I silence it then press NVDA plus a to read. Works fine.
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On 8/4/2020 10:04 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
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Re: Grammarly and NVDA
It is completely inaccessible with any screen reader. Your best option would be to change the grammar checker in MS Word to also check for styles, not just grammar. That's the only accessible avenue for grammar checking because all other third party solutions are not screen reader friendly.
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