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Re: Issues with Edge Chromium: is Google Chrome still a more viable option?

Jesse Farquharson
 

Honestly, I used Google Chrome with NVDA, once, a while back. I lasted all of five minutes with it. The interface was just too confusing and the keystrokes made no sense.

If you are concerned about privacy, I would absolutely not go to Chrome again.

The most NVDA friendly browser, in my experience, is Firefox. I have had zero issues with it, and you don't get any of that page loading or loading complete stuff or whatever. The interface is, in my opinion, also much more pleasant.

Hope this helps.


Issues with Edge Chromium: is Google Chrome still a more viable option?

Amir
 

Folks,

I've been using Google Chrome over the past couple of years and have been a happy camper. However, having read about MS Edge Chromium's better privacy/RAM controls and the Read Aloud feature, I decided to give it a try. I really want to make the switch, but the following issues appear to be showstoppers:
1. NVDA has issues focusing the cursor on the Address Bar, or what is called the App Bar in Edge. That is, as I press Control+T or ALT+D, the focus doesn't always land in the edit box. Sometimes I need to press ALT+D several times in order to get the cursor there, and sometimes it doesn't happen at all.
2. I've tried tinkering with Edge's settings, but it seems that Edge doesn't provide a way to offer a blank new tab whenever I press Control+T. That might not be a big deal and Google Chrome doesn't have such a feature either, but I want to achieve this to take care of the following issue in Edge.
3. Unlike Google Chrome, Edge/NVDA tend to report "Load complete", "Load still in progress", "Opening new tab", etc. Even when I press Control+T, I hear "Load complete" which is driving me nuts! At first I thought I'd like them, but now I think there really should be a way to suppress them! And I'm aware of the Win 10 Apps Essentials trick, but can't use it because I don't want to lose other important announcements by utilizing that.
4. I have difficulty accessing favorites in Edge -- what Google Chrome calls Bookmarks. I've found the easiest way to do it would be pressing ALT+F, followed by O, followed by Enter to open Favorites. However, even there not all first-letter navigation presses work. For instance, pressing A or S activates the "Add this page to Favorites" or other options there instead of moving to Favorites which begin with A or S. This is also true with a couple of other letter presses, so how do you efficiently/quickly access Favorites in Edge Chromium? Moreover, in Edge NVDA doesn't notify you if a so-called Favorite item is a folder or a menu containing other items. Oftentimes pressing Enter on such items doesn't force NVDA to read its subitems and you have to get the readout manually.
5. This is more of an NVDA issue rather than an Edge issue. In Google Chrome NVDA notifies me whenever I type a misspelled word into an edit box via a buzz, but in Edge the buzz doesn't work at all. Guess either I or someone else should report this on Github, but this is definitely an NVDA issue with Edge 84.
6. Finally, the Read Aloud feature in Edge, which is really cool, has a serious flaw: it adds long pauses, up to 2 or 3 seconds, between sentences which makes the feature absolutely annoying. Any chance of reducing the pauses? I've seen no settings for that.
So with all of these issues, should I go back to Google Chrome? Your suggestions and work-arounds would be much appreciated.

Best,
Amir


Re: Honey - Browser Extension that finds Promo Codes on Websites

Quentin Christensen
 

I haven't tried it, but it sounds like it might be similar to things like Grammarly in that it puts a visual overlay over a page which works for a sighted person, but doesn't interact with screen readers.  It is worth contacting the people who make Honey if you haven't already to ask about their accessibility testing.

Quentin.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:24 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
There is a extension for browsers called homey that automatically
searches for promo codes on certain web sites.  After installing the
extension to Google Chrome and going to amazon Honey puts up some info
on the web page that it seems that NVDA can't get to. Anyone using Honey
with NVDA with any success?  Talking about using it on a Win 10 system
with latest version of Google Chrome and NVDA 2020.2.







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Re: Unnecessary verbiage that wastes my time

Quentin Christensen
 

Re the speed of getting replies to questions - You're going to get that wherever you can most quickly get the attention of the highest number of people who might be able to answer any given question.  I've never used Discord myself, but would follow if that was where the NVDA community was.

If you do have NVDA specific questions, another way of getting instant help is our telephone support.  It's not free, but it's a local US or Australian number you can call at any time.  You can purchase on its own or as part of the NVDA Productivity Bundle from the NV Access shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:42 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

If anyone needs help with discord, I'm still learning about it, but I manage 3 discord servers and own 2. If not, that's ok as well. Lol!

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On 8 Aug 2020, at 5:16, Luke Davis wrote:

Hey, who you callin old? LOL

I'm as desirous of immediate gratification as the next person. However, I'm even more desirous of quality responses from a wide base of experience. In the open source software community, that mostly tends to be mailing lists and web based forums, of which this is both.

But again, you're free to start something else, and find out the answer to the age-old (or at least 30 year old) question: if you build it, will they come?
That's the beauty of open source.

Now, get off my lawn!

Luke

On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Perhaps it's a "me" thing. I find email responses much slower on the whole, which is why I tried to turn to skype groups a while back for more prompt assistance. I would personally prefer a more realtime interaction rather than waiting hours for a response that might not be entirely helpful.

I will admit, however, that many of you are not as young (twenty-nine) as me, nor do many of you have as much free time. And perhaps I'm just impatient when I want a problem solved and should work on that rather than demand an entire group change how they do things for my own convenience.



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Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

 

Hi,
Object navigation is part of NVDA, and as Jackie pointed out, I did write ObjPad add-on to make certain object navigation tasks easier. If you are curious as to where you might have seen this in JAWS or VoiceOver world, it is equivalent to touch cursor in JAWS and VoiceOver supports object navigation well.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Ok, let me ask a dum question. Is object navigation a part of NVDA or do I need to install an add-on? Thanks so much. If this was already answered earlier and I missed it, my apology.
On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Today, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work with history. I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart the program for the setting to take effect. I used object navigation, after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working with the object. I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the perform default action option. Screen review was useless. I wouldn't have been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Hi,

one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple
navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web
pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter
fequently is visual studio, for instance when navigating through the
category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to
load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I
need is much less annoying.

-- patrick





Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Jackie
 

It's a part of NVDA, Charles. However, there is also an addon called
ObjPad by Joseph Lee, which is available here:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html

On 8/9/20, Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...> wrote:
Ok, let me ask a dum question. Is object navigation a part of NVDA or do I
need to install an add-on? Thanks so much. If this was already answered
earlier and I missed it, my apology.
On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Today, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work
with history. I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom
settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening
the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart
the program for the setting to take effect. I used object navigation,
after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options
without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working
with the object. I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the
perform default action option. Screen review was useless. I wouldn't have
been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Hi,

one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple
navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web
pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter
fequently is visual studio, for instance when navigating through the
category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to
load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I need
is much less annoying.

-- patrick






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Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Gene
 

It’s a part of NVDA. I'm not sure what the best resources are to learn about it. I believe that, after a little explanation, the best way to learn is by doing, to have some sort of instruction that has the user take specific actions so they can experience for themselves what it is like to navigate bhy object.

I don't know how the training material you pay for from NVDA teachess object navigation. I hope others explain the approach.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 6:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Ok, let me ask a dum question. Is object navigation a part of NVDA or do I need to install an add-on? Thanks so much. If this was already answered earlier and I missed it, my apology.
On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Today, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work with history. I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart the program for the setting to take effect. I used object navigation, after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working with the object. I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the perform default action option. Screen review was useless. I wouldn't have been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Hi,

one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple
navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web
pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter
fequently is visual studio, for instance when navigating through the
category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to
load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I need
is much less annoying.

-- patrick





Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Charles Adkins
 

Ok, let me ask a dum question. Is object navigation a part of NVDA or do I need to install an add-on? Thanks so much. If this was already answered earlier and I missed it, my apology.

On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Today, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work with history. I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart the program for the setting to take effect. I used object navigation, after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working with the object. I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the perform default action option. Screen review was useless. I wouldn't have been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Hi,

one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple
navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web
pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter
fequently is visual studio, for instance when navigating through the
category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to
load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I need
is much less annoying.

-- patrick





Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Gene
 

Today, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work with history. I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart the program for the setting to take effect. I used object navigation, after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working with the object. I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the perform default action option. Screen review was useless. I wouldn't have been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Hi,

one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple
navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web
pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter
fequently is visual studio, for instance when navigating through the
category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to
load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I need
is much less annoying.

-- patrick


Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

one use that doesn't seem to be mentioned so far is when using simple navigation triggers events you don't want, that happens with some web pages, with other workarounds - The one concrete case i encounter fequently is visual studio, for instance when navigating through the category tree in options, some categories may take quite a while to load., so using object navigation to explore and only select what I need is much less annoying.

-- patrick


Re: Speech Dictionaries: Changing How Superscripted Tex Is Read

 

Have you looked at and installed either the Access8Math and/or Lambda Add-On (if you're using braille) and/or MathPlayer?

There is really no reasonable way that I know of to do what you want unless the content is created in MathML or similar or identifed as "being math" so that one of the previously mentioned add-ons can read the content as such.  It's been quite a while since I had to deal with mathematics and a screen reader, and I'm sure other members will be able to offer more focused instructions.

Subscripting and superscripting is just too common otherwise to presume its presence is necessarily mathematical notation.
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Speech Dictionaries: Changing How Superscripted Tex Is Read

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,

In reading mathematic content, I am not a fan of NVDA, with reporting
of subscripts and superscripts enabled, reading something like
area=pi*r superscript 2 baseline as opposed to just area=pi*r raised
to 2 or area=pi*r square. Superscript and baseline are large words
themselves and make it difficult to catch the number squeezed in
between but which is the exponent I actually care about. Is there some
way of using regular expressions in NVDA's speech dictionaries to make
all superscripted text to be read not as superscript {text} baseline
but as raised to {text} power? For now, since the words superscript
and baseline are not too common, I am considering just making
corresponding replacements for them in the Speech Dictionaries.
However, if there is a better method, I would love to know.

I would truly appreciate any assistance in this matter.

Thanks.

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Re: Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

Amir
 

Unfortunately that doesn't cut it for me although I understand the benefits. When I'm at my computer and hit Refresh, I fully expect to get the latest articles not what the web-based readers might dictate. And if you happen to depend on the speed aspect for work, such an access becomes more essential. Honestly I don't share the articles -- even the ones I read for leisure. Even if I do, I share them via email which works well with Internet Explorer. Nowadays even most Edge/Chrome RSS extensions also support full-fledged article sharing so that's a nonissue if the need arises. I also use Lire on my iPhone for RSS stuff. It supports full-fledged sharing and its stand-alone mode truly rocks.
 
Best,
Amir


Re: Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

Cristóbal
 

I won’t argue on which version, be it standalone or web based is faster at feed refreshing since that’s beyond my knowledge.

The only thing I’d say to that though is… tradeoffs.

I mean, I work from home and am on some sort of device all day. Be it a PC or my iPhone. I’m not saying that refreshing an RSS feed every minute or what have you isn’t essential, but is there a huge difference between one and 5 minutes? If something’s so urgent, there are other methods to get that info almost instantaneously like push/email alerts via an app either on one’s phone or PC that are probably better suited for those types of scenarios.

The flexibility that this or I guess any other web based service allows for things like sharing, synchronizing, saving etc in my opinion are worth the possible 4 or 5 minute delay as opposed to a stand alone solution.

For example, the wife and I do retail and wholesale arbitrage. While I do have some RSS feeds for deal sites, I use other methods like push and email alerts and other bot-like solutions to get notified of price drops and or sales/liquidations. I would not rely or even expect RSS to be able to keep up with that constant change.

Someone mentioned Smart RSS earlier. I remember GHacks reviewing this program a few months ago. Funny enough, I came across the review via my feed entry on The Old Reader. Looks like the commenters weren’t overly impressed by it. https://www.ghacks.net/2020/03/10/smart-rss-reader-is-a-feed-reader-extension-for-firefox-and-chrome/

And to reiterate one of the original points, The Old Reader is completely screen reader accessible.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

 

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 02:44 PM, Amir wrote:

That's why they're not suitable for me especially for work-related tasks.

-
I have no idea what you do, and the following is not aimed at you, personally, but if "within the hour" is not fast enough, then that's a business I don't want to be in.

As a former software developer I learned to despise artificial deadlines, and also learned that 99 times out of 100, "It will still be there tomorrow, possible for multiple tomorrows," applied to so-called time critical tasks.

I got out, among other reasons, because there was never time to do it right to begin with, but always plenty of time to do it over just so long as something, anything, was presented by someone's designated deadline that was completely disconnected from actual need.

One of my favorite quotations, whether you liked the source or not:

     I reject get-it-done, make-it-happen thinking. I want to slow things down so I understand them better.

             ~ Gov. Jerry Brown

Most times, you can slow them way down, and get a far better solution/result.

Sorry for getting all meta on everyone.  It's a hot and lazy Sunday afternoon.

 
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Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Gene
 

My experience is that I can't necessarily predict where it will be useful, that sometimes screen review is better and that sometimes object navigation is better. If one doesn't work, I try the other but I don't necessarily have an opinion at the outset.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Jackie (and many others, since I last posted),

Thank you very much for concrete examples of where, and how, you are using Object Navigation. It's so much easier to formulate an educated guess of where it might be helpful/appropriate when you encounter a situation if you've seen other situations where it was.
In the 3.x version of Pontes Media Downloader, I get no information using screen review. But if I move through objects, moving right or left with numpad insert 6 and right arrow or numpad 4 using left arrow, I can move through all sorts of fields. I generally don't move in this way through the program because usually the only thing I want to see is the status line, I can move there using control s and then I can read the field if I want to repeat it with num;pad 8 for read current line of the current object. But its an example.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

Jackie (and many others, since I last posted),

Thank you very much for concrete examples of where, and how, you are using Object Navigation. It's so much easier to formulate an educated guess of where it might be helpful/appropriate when you encounter a situation if you've seen other situations where it was.

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Re: Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

Amir
 

<LOL> -- very interesting. I fully understand your perspective but if you work as a journalist and operate in a newsroom, you have to be able to receive timely updates for everything including speeches, election results, explosions, pandemic updates, resolutions, etc. That's why my work-related RSS feeds are updated every 15 minutes in Internet Explorer (the minimum value allowed), and many times I also refresh a couple of them in 5 to 10-minute intervals.
 
Best,
Amir


Re: Object Navigation - Where and How Do You Use It?

 

Jackie (and many others, since I last posted),

Thank you very much for concrete examples of where, and how, you are using Object Navigation.  It's so much easier to formulate an educated guess of where it might be helpful/appropriate when you encounter a situation if you've seen other situations where it was.

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Re: Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

 

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 02:44 PM, Amir wrote:
That's why they're not suitable for me especially for work-related tasks.
-
I have no idea what you do, and the following is not aimed at you, personally, but if "within the hour" is not fast enough, then that's a business I don't want to be in.

As a former software developer I learned to despise artificial deadlines, and also learned that 99 times out of 100, "It will still be there tomorrow, possible for multiple tomorrows," applied to so-called time critical tasks.

I got out, among other reasons, because there was never time to do it right to begin with, but always plenty of time to do it over just so long as something, anything, was presented by someone's designated deadline that was completely disconnected from actual need.

One of my favorite quotations, whether you liked the source or not:

     I reject get-it-done, make-it-happen thinking. I want to slow things down so I understand them better.

             ~ Gov. Jerry Brown

Most times, you can slow them way down, and get a far better solution/result.

Sorry for getting all meta on everyone.  It's a hot and lazy Sunday afternoon.

 
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Re: Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

Amir
 

That's the case with stand-alone RSS feed readers -- you can even set the refresh rate to "1 minute" with many of them, and, of course, you can refresh manually whenever desired. However, web-based readers such as The Old Reader and Feedly don't give you such a fine-tuning especially with their free tiers. The Old Reader clearly mentions that the Premium tier allows for faster refresh rates although I don't know how fast it might be. That's why they're not suitable for me especially for work-related tasks. Even with Lire on my iPhone I tend to use it in Stand-alone mode so as to get faster refresh rates without having to be limited by the dictates of its supported web-based services.
 
Best,
Amir


Re: Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

Cristóbal
 

So, now I had to look it up. It looks like I was indeed grandfathered in at the $2 a month.

What will you get with The Old Reader Premium?
- Full-text search
- Faster feed refresh times
- Up to 500 Subscriptions
- 6 months of post storage
- Instapaper and Readability integration
- Early access to new features

What will it cost?
The Old Reader Premium will cost $3/month or $30/year. However, for the next 2 weeks (or up to 5,000 accounts) we’ll be offering the service for $2/month or $20/year and we will lock you into that price for a minimum of the next 2 years. This is our way of saying thanks to our existing users and hopefully getting the Premium service off to a great start.

This post was back in 2014 so I guess I’ve been saving that extra buck for the past four years or so… Yea me.

Again though, you don’t have to pay.

Do I have to upgrade?
No! 90% of our users can continue on for free just as they are today. However, users with more than 100 feeds will need to upgrade to premium. Otherwise, all functionality will remain available to free accounts. We also offer a 2 week trial period for the premium service and will even allow that trial period to get extended for those still interested in moving to Premium.

https://blog.theoldreader.com/post/76417559063/the-old-reader-premium

I’m sure there are other services out there that offer similar features with paid and free tears, so it’s not like these guys have some sort of special sauce or anything. This is simply the service I’ve found to cover most of my needs. I am a heavy RSS user with multiple devices that I may use throughout the day to keep up on the news.

The Old Reader’s even got keyboard commands similar to how Twitter.com and Reddit.com an a lot of other web based programs have. I don’t particularly make use of them, but they’re there if that’s your thing as well.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Helping to make an Edge/Chrome RSS reader accessible

 

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 01:41 PM, Amir wrote:

I feel I shouldn't have to pay $2 or more per month for a service

Is this for the premium service, or basic?   I'll admit the website isn't good about discussing this, but when I attempt the "Sign Up" process it mentions a 14-day trial of premium.  On a lot of these "premium versus basic" situations the cost is only if you want the premium features.

That would be good info to have.
 
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