Folks,

I've been using Google Chrome over the past couple of years and have
been a happy camper. However, having read about MS Edge Chromium's
better privacy/RAM controls and the Read Aloud feature, I decided to
give it a try. I really want to make the switch, but the following
issues appear to be showstoppers:
1. NVDA has issues focusing the cursor on the Address Bar, or what is
called the App Bar in Edge. That is, as I press Control+T or ALT+D, the
focus doesn't always land in the edit box. Sometimes I need to press
ALT+D several times in order to get the cursor there, and sometimes it
doesn't happen at all.
2. I've tried tinkering with Edge's settings, but it seems that Edge
doesn't provide a way to offer a blank new tab whenever I press
Control+T. That might not be a big deal and Google Chrome doesn't have
such a feature either, but I want to achieve this to take care of the
following issue in Edge.
3. Unlike Google Chrome, Edge/NVDA tend to report "Load complete", "Load
still in progress", "Opening new tab", etc. Even when I press Control+T,
I hear "Load complete" which is driving me nuts! At first I thought I'd
like them, but now I think there really should be a way to suppress
them! And I'm aware of the Win 10 Apps Essentials trick, but can't use
it because I don't want to lose other important announcements by
utilizing that.
4. I have difficulty accessing favorites in Edge -- what Google Chrome
calls Bookmarks. I've found the easiest way to do it would be pressing
ALT+F, followed by O, followed by Enter to open Favorites. However, even
there not all first-letter navigation presses work. For instance,
pressing A or S activates the "Add this page to Favorites" or other
options there instead of moving to Favorites which begin with A or S.
This is also true with a couple of other letter presses, so how do you
efficiently/quickly access Favorites in Edge Chromium? Moreover, in Edge
NVDA doesn't notify you if a so-called Favorite item is a folder or a
menu containing other items. Oftentimes pressing Enter on such items
doesn't force NVDA to read its subitems and you have to get the readout
manually.
5. This is more of an NVDA issue rather than an Edge issue. In Google
Chrome NVDA notifies me whenever I type a misspelled word into an edit
box via a buzz, but in Edge the buzz doesn't work at all. Guess either I
or someone else should report this on Github, but this is definitely an
NVDA issue with Edge 84.
6. Finally, the Read Aloud feature in Edge, which is really cool, has a
serious flaw: it adds long pauses, up to 2 or 3 seconds, between
sentences which makes the feature absolutely annoying. Any chance of
reducing the pauses? I've seen no settings for that.
So with all of these issues, should I go back to Google Chrome? Your
suggestions and work-arounds would be much appreciated.

Best,
Amir

If CTRL+L/ALT+D aren't moving you to the address bar in new Edge then there is a corruption in your installation.

With the exception of a very few shortcuts, because Microsoft elected to maintain the Favorites terminology, pretty much every keyboard command applicable to Chrome (or any Chromium-based browser) is also applicable to new Edge.

You should try, Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10, for starters.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

Open Microsoft Edge.

After, press NVDA+control+p and press new button.

Here, write a name for the profile and press tab, select with daum arrow current application and press OK. So, en the Window of Edge, press Control+NVDA+O, disable report notifications and press OK.

Regards.

How do I create a profile for edge?  I went to the profile menu and did not see edge in the menus at all.  Could you please go in to a bit more de tale?

On 8/10/2020 10:36 AM, CARLOS-ESTEBAN wrote:

Hello.

About the notifications, you can create a configuration profile with NVDA+control+P in the Microsoft Edge Window. In this configuration profile, disable report notifications and this option only go to work if you is in Edge. In other Windows, NVDA read the notifications.

regards.

 

El 10/8/2020 a las 5:46, Greg Wocher escribió:

Hello,

Try using Control Plus L to move to the address bar. It is what I use and it works every time. 

 

Greg Wocher

 

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Amir <mobilespace08@...> wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply.

It's quite strange because I'm not moved to the App Bar/Address Bar upon pressing Control+T quite often. Even if I press Control+T, attempting to force the cursor to move to the App Bar with ALT+D fails quite often, and the cursor will remain on an HTML area belonging to the new tab page. I have none of these issues in Google Chrome, and wish Edge would allow us to use a blank page for its new tabs.

As for Favorites, I don't have Dropbox installed as I don't use it. The equivalent of the Bookmarks submenu in Google Chrome is Favorites in Edge, accessible via ALT+F+O followed by Enter, but it doesn't allow first-letter navigation for some of the letters as they activate some functions -- like A for Add this page to Favorites.

 

Best,

Amir

 

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

How do I create a profile for edge?  I went to the profile menu and did not see edge in the menus at all.  Could you please go in to a bit more de tale?

On 8/10/2020 10:36 AM, CARLOS-ESTEBAN wrote:

Hello.

About the notifications, you can create a configuration profile with NVDA+control+P in the Microsoft Edge Window. In this configuration profile, disable report notifications and this option only go to work if you is in Edge. In other Windows, NVDA read the notifications.

regards.

El 10/8/2020 a las 5:46, Greg Wocher escribió:

Hello,

Try using Control Plus L to move to the address bar. It is what I use and it works every time. 

Greg Wocher

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Amir <mobilespace08@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply.

It's quite strange because I'm not moved to the App Bar/Address Bar upon pressing Control+T quite often. Even if I press Control+T, attempting to force the cursor to move to the App Bar with ALT+D fails quite often, and the cursor will remain on an HTML area belonging to the new tab page. I have none of these issues in Google Chrome, and wish Edge would allow us to use a blank page for its new tabs.

As for Favorites, I don't have Dropbox installed as I don't use it. The equivalent of the Bookmarks submenu in Google Chrome is Favorites in Edge, accessible via ALT+F+O followed by Enter, but it doesn't allow first-letter navigation for some of the letters as they activate some functions -- like A for Add this page to Favorites.

 

Best,

Amir

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Hello.

About the notifications, you can create a configuration profile with NVDA+control+P in the Microsoft Edge Window. In this configuration profile, disable report notifications and this option only go to work if you is in Edge. In other Windows, NVDA read the notifications.

regards.

El 10/8/2020 a las 5:46, Greg Wocher escribió:

Hello,

Try using Control Plus L to move to the address bar. It is what I use and it works every time. 

Greg Wocher

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Amir <mobilespace08@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply.

It's quite strange because I'm not moved to the App Bar/Address Bar upon pressing Control+T quite often. Even if I press Control+T, attempting to force the cursor to move to the App Bar with ALT+D fails quite often, and the cursor will remain on an HTML area belonging to the new tab page. I have none of these issues in Google Chrome, and wish Edge would allow us to use a blank page for its new tabs.

As for Favorites, I don't have Dropbox installed as I don't use it. The equivalent of the Bookmarks submenu in Google Chrome is Favorites in Edge, accessible via ALT+F+O followed by Enter, but it doesn't allow first-letter navigation for some of the letters as they activate some functions -- like A for Add this page to Favorites.

 

Best,

Amir

--

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Hello,

Try using Control Plus L to move to the address bar. It is what I use and it works every time. 

Greg Wocher

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Amir <mobilespace08@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply.

It's quite strange because I'm not moved to the App Bar/Address Bar upon pressing Control+T quite often. Even if I press Control+T, attempting to force the cursor to move to the App Bar with ALT+D fails quite often, and the cursor will remain on an HTML area belonging to the new tab page. I have none of these issues in Google Chrome, and wish Edge would allow us to use a blank page for its new tabs.

As for Favorites, I don't have Dropbox installed as I don't use it. The equivalent of the Bookmarks submenu in Google Chrome is Favorites in Edge, accessible via ALT+F+O followed by Enter, but it doesn't allow first-letter navigation for some of the letters as they activate some functions -- like A for Add this page to Favorites.

 

Best,

Amir

Jackie (and many others, since I last posted),

Thank you very much for concrete examples of where, and how, you are using Object Navigation.  It's so much easier to formulate an educated guess of where it might be helpful/appropriate when you encounter a situation if you've seen other situations where it was.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Amir <mobilespace08@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply.

It's quite strange because I'm not moved to the App Bar/Address Bar upon pressing Control+T quite often. Even if I press Control+T, attempting to force the cursor to move to the App Bar with ALT+D fails quite often, and the cursor will remain on an HTML area belonging to the new tab page. I have none of these issues in Google Chrome, and wish Edge would allow us to use a blank page for its new tabs.

As for Favorites, I don't have Dropbox installed as I don't use it. The equivalent of the Bookmarks submenu in Google Chrome is Favorites in Edge, accessible via ALT+F+O followed by Enter, but it doesn't allow first-letter navigation for some of the letters as they activate some functions -- like A for Add this page to Favorites.

 

Best,

Amir

Today, I wanted to change the setting in Firefox about how it would work with history. I wanted to use the combo box to have it use custom settings. But every time I would change the setting, even after opening the combo box, a dialog would come up telling me I would have to restart the program for the setting to take effect. I used object navigation, after opening the combo box with alt down arrow, to see the options without triggering the dialog and I selected the one I wanted by working with the object. I don't remember if I used the mouse option or the perform default action option. Screen review was useless. I wouldn't have been able to work with the combo box without object navigation.