I don't know who's organizing the meetings in question, but if you have the ability to contact them in advance, there are settings they can tweak to make the join/leave notifications be triggered only for the meeting Host and Co-Hosts.

See this Zoom Support Page: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115005756143-Changing-your-meeting-settings
and search on, "Sound notification when someone join or leave."

Although this may not have a connection to text notification of same, I'm willing to bet that it might.  It's worth checking out, at the very least.

Zoom is going to have a lot of refining to do, and for reasons of accessibility plus a lot of others.  I doubt that they ever, in their wildest dreams, foresaw the app taking off as quickly and gaining as many users as it has in a very short period of time.  While there are limited human resources for tweaking Zoom, they certainly can't make changes for any problems unless those problems are reported to them and the changes that would help are spelled out.

 
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A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

Hi all.

Some users have this situation: In a Zoom meetin, when a person have problems of conection and leave, NVDA sais who leave the meetin.

But if the user read somme ting with NVDA, for example, slides from a presentation, NVDA stop the reading and talk the alert.

The options report notifications and report dinamic contend changes disabled in the category object presentation dont disable the alerts from Zoom. Some idea? have a developer a temporal solution or an app module?

Thanks.

Hello Shaun,

In the file operation progress dialog, there should be a button saying something of the sort of "Show more details" or "Show less details". If it says "Show less details", activate it. That way the file operation progress dialog will show less details. That should help to make NVDA report the progress bar in the dialog.

The dialog should show less details by default, but sometimes (probably due to accidental activation of the "Show more details" button by the user), it shows more details and that option is saved permanently until changed again by the user by activating the "Show less details" button.

The problem with this file operation progress dialog is that when it shows/displays more details about the current operation, the way it presents the progress bar is not normal. Instead of a standard progress bar, it displays an operation speed graph which vertically displays the operation speed and horizontally displays the progress. Apparently this non-standard way of displaying the progress bar brakes its detection and reporting by the screen readers. NV Access and Microsoft should investigate this and fix it.

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Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 10.8.2020 г. в 21:53, Shaun Everiss написа:

Hi all.

I have noticed this for several weeks after the windows 2004 update on my computers, I have tried this on both.

I have also tried nvda 2017.3 to the latest with and without addons, and at least can confirm this aint nvda.

In windows explorer when performing file opperations, copy, delete, mainly, the progress bars do not beep.

Now progress bars will beep as they should in programs that they usually beep in like thunderbird, and if I try to access a network or large folder in file explorer they work as normal.

Only delete, move and copy are these progress bars not spoken, unless I tab back and forth, nvda will voice their percentages from time to time initially but will not do this unless I alt tab back and forth.

Its obvious that windows has changed something but its obviously working according to nvda as there are no log errors.

At least in the info log.

I assume its to do with the display of some bars.

Is this something nvda can get fixed so these work or is this something for microsoft to fix.

This aint a show stopper its just off putting that some bars do not read.

For me I do delete and copy files about especially if its a lot of data and from time to time I will want to know what all this is about.

I assume that its all this new universalising of the os which is causing this change.

Is it worth sending a debug to someone about this, and who do I send it at.

.

Hi,
You need to disable "more details" toggle, as progress bar will be hidden if this is on.
Cheers,
Joseph

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] interesting issue with file explorer on windows 10

Hi all.

I have noticed this for several weeks after the windows 2004 update on my computers, I have tried this on both.

I have also tried nvda 2017.3 to the latest with and without addons, and at least can confirm this aint nvda.

In windows explorer when performing file opperations, copy, delete, mainly, the progress bars do not beep.

Now progress bars will beep as they should in programs that they usually beep in like thunderbird, and if I try to access a network or large folder in file explorer they work as normal.

Only delete, move and copy are these progress bars not spoken, unless I tab back and forth, nvda will voice their percentages from time to time initially but will not do this unless I alt tab back and forth.

Its obvious that windows has changed something but its obviously working according to nvda as there are no log errors.

At least in the info log.

I assume its to do with the display of some bars.

Is this something nvda can get fixed so these work or is this something for microsoft to fix.

This aint a show stopper its just off putting that some bars do not read.

For me I do delete and copy files about especially if its a lot of data and from time to time I will want to know what all this is about.

I assume that its all this new universalising of the os which is causing this change.

Is it worth sending a debug to someone about this, and who do I send it at.








.

Hi all.

I have noticed this for several weeks after the windows 2004 update on my computers, I have tried this on both.

I have also tried nvda 2017.3 to the latest with and without addons, and at least can confirm this aint nvda.

In windows explorer when performing file opperations, copy, delete, mainly, the progress bars do not beep.

Now progress bars will beep as they should in programs that they usually beep in like thunderbird, and if I try to access a network or large folder in file explorer they work as normal.

Only delete, move and copy are these progress bars not spoken, unless I tab back and forth, nvda will voice their percentages from time to time initially but will not do this unless I alt tab back and forth.

Its obvious that windows has changed something but its obviously working according to nvda as there are no log errors.

At least in the info log.

I assume its to do with the display of some bars.

Is this something nvda can get fixed so these work or is this something for microsoft to fix.

This aint a show stopper its just off putting that some bars do not read.

For me I do delete and copy files about especially if its a lot of data and from time to time I will want to know what all this is about.

I assume that its all this new universalising of the os which is causing this change.

Is it worth sending a debug to someone about this, and who do I send it at.

I've returned to Google Chrome 84 for now, but will give MS Edge 85 another try as it is released. My issues aren't limited to the Address Bar/App Bar, and a couple of them are NVDA-specific as reported on Github. So I'd rather test newer releases of both in the future instead of going through the Windows fix.

Best,
Amir

Folks,

I've been using Google Chrome over the past couple of years and have
been a happy camper. However, having read about MS Edge Chromium's
better privacy/RAM controls and the Read Aloud feature, I decided to
give it a try. I really want to make the switch, but the following
issues appear to be showstoppers:
1. NVDA has issues focusing the cursor on the Address Bar, or what is
called the App Bar in Edge. That is, as I press Control+T or ALT+D, the
focus doesn't always land in the edit box. Sometimes I need to press
ALT+D several times in order to get the cursor there, and sometimes it
doesn't happen at all.
2. I've tried tinkering with Edge's settings, but it seems that Edge
doesn't provide a way to offer a blank new tab whenever I press
Control+T. That might not be a big deal and Google Chrome doesn't have
such a feature either, but I want to achieve this to take care of the
following issue in Edge.
3. Unlike Google Chrome, Edge/NVDA tend to report "Load complete", "Load
still in progress", "Opening new tab", etc. Even when I press Control+T,
I hear "Load complete" which is driving me nuts! At first I thought I'd
like them, but now I think there really should be a way to suppress
them! And I'm aware of the Win 10 Apps Essentials trick, but can't use
it because I don't want to lose other important announcements by
utilizing that.
4. I have difficulty accessing favorites in Edge -- what Google Chrome
calls Bookmarks. I've found the easiest way to do it would be pressing
ALT+F, followed by O, followed by Enter to open Favorites. However, even
there not all first-letter navigation presses work. For instance,
pressing A or S activates the "Add this page to Favorites" or other
options there instead of moving to Favorites which begin with A or S.
This is also true with a couple of other letter presses, so how do you
efficiently/quickly access Favorites in Edge Chromium? Moreover, in Edge
NVDA doesn't notify you if a so-called Favorite item is a folder or a
menu containing other items. Oftentimes pressing Enter on such items
doesn't force NVDA to read its subitems and you have to get the readout
manually.
5. This is more of an NVDA issue rather than an Edge issue. In Google
Chrome NVDA notifies me whenever I type a misspelled word into an edit
box via a buzz, but in Edge the buzz doesn't work at all. Guess either I
or someone else should report this on Github, but this is definitely an
NVDA issue with Edge 84.
6. Finally, the Read Aloud feature in Edge, which is really cool, has a
serious flaw: it adds long pauses, up to 2 or 3 seconds, between
sentences which makes the feature absolutely annoying. Any chance of
reducing the pauses? I've seen no settings for that.
So with all of these issues, should I go back to Google Chrome? Your
suggestions and work-arounds would be much appreciated.

Best,
Amir

If CTRL+L/ALT+D aren't moving you to the address bar in new Edge then there is a corruption in your installation.

With the exception of a very few shortcuts, because Microsoft elected to maintain the Favorites terminology, pretty much every keyboard command applicable to Chrome (or any Chromium-based browser) is also applicable to new Edge.

You should try, Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10, for starters.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

Open Microsoft Edge.

After, press NVDA+control+p and press new button.

Here, write a name for the profile and press tab, select with daum arrow current application and press OK. So, en the Window of Edge, press Control+NVDA+O, disable report notifications and press OK.

Regards.

How do I create a profile for edge?  I went to the profile menu and did not see edge in the menus at all.  Could you please go in to a bit more de tale?

On 8/10/2020 10:36 AM, CARLOS-ESTEBAN wrote:

Hello.

About the notifications, you can create a configuration profile with NVDA+control+P in the Microsoft Edge Window. In this configuration profile, disable report notifications and this option only go to work if you is in Edge. In other Windows, NVDA read the notifications.

regards.

 

El 10/8/2020 a las 5:46, Greg Wocher escribió:

Hello,

Try using Control Plus L to move to the address bar. It is what I use and it works every time. 

 

Greg Wocher

 

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Amir <mobilespace08@...> wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply.

It's quite strange because I'm not moved to the App Bar/Address Bar upon pressing Control+T quite often. Even if I press Control+T, attempting to force the cursor to move to the App Bar with ALT+D fails quite often, and the cursor will remain on an HTML area belonging to the new tab page. I have none of these issues in Google Chrome, and wish Edge would allow us to use a blank page for its new tabs.

As for Favorites, I don't have Dropbox installed as I don't use it. The equivalent of the Bookmarks submenu in Google Chrome is Favorites in Edge, accessible via ALT+F+O followed by Enter, but it doesn't allow first-letter navigation for some of the letters as they activate some functions -- like A for Add this page to Favorites.

 

Best,

Amir

 

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Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

How do I create a profile for edge?  I went to the profile menu and did not see edge in the menus at all.  Could you please go in to a bit more de tale?

On 8/10/2020 10:36 AM, CARLOS-ESTEBAN wrote:

Hello.

About the notifications, you can create a configuration profile with NVDA+control+P in the Microsoft Edge Window. In this configuration profile, disable report notifications and this option only go to work if you is in Edge. In other Windows, NVDA read the notifications.

regards.

El 10/8/2020 a las 5:46, Greg Wocher escribió:

Hello,

Try using Control Plus L to move to the address bar. It is what I use and it works every time. 

Greg Wocher

On Aug 10, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Amir <mobilespace08@...> wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply.

It's quite strange because I'm not moved to the App Bar/Address Bar upon pressing Control+T quite often. Even if I press Control+T, attempting to force the cursor to move to the App Bar with ALT+D fails quite often, and the cursor will remain on an HTML area belonging to the new tab page. I have none of these issues in Google Chrome, and wish Edge would allow us to use a blank page for its new tabs.

As for Favorites, I don't have Dropbox installed as I don't use it. The equivalent of the Bookmarks submenu in Google Chrome is Favorites in Edge, accessible via ALT+F+O followed by Enter, but it doesn't allow first-letter navigation for some of the letters as they activate some functions -- like A for Add this page to Favorites.

 

Best,

Amir

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Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to the blind people in the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.