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Re: NVDA remote access and usage
Charles Adkins
Actually, I have had the opposite result. I use it here at work on two computers. If I can help write me off list. I got my help from the nvdaremote.com page. Hope that helps.
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On Aug 12, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@...> wrote:
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Re: Protonmail
Jesse Farquharson
Hello, The bridge is a feature which can be accessed by any of the paid plans, but unfortunately not for free. You can still use the web interface though.
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Re: NVDA remote access and usage
hello nvda remote user guide from
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nvdaremote.com website. NVDA Remote Access Version 2.2 Welcome to the NVDA Remote Access addon, which will allow you to connect to another computer running the free NVDA screen reader. It makes no difference whether you are across the room or across the world. Connecting is simple, and there are very few commands to remember. You can connect to another person's computer, or allow a trusted person to connect to your system to perform routine maintenance, diagnose a problem, or provide training. Before You Begin You will need to have installed NVDA on both computers, and obtain the NVDA Remote Access addon. The installation of both NVDA and the Remote Access addon are standard. If you need more information, this can be found in NVDA's User Guide. Updating When updating the addon, if you have installed NVDA Remote on the secure desktop, it is recommended that you also update the copy on the secure desktop. To do this, first update your existing addon. Then open the NVDA menu, preferences, General settings, and press the button labeled "Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges)". Starting a remote session through a relay server On the computer to be controlled 1. Open the NVDA menu, Tools, Remote, Connect. 2. Choose client in the first radio button. 3. Select Allow this machine to be controlled in the second set of radio buttons. 4. In the host field, enter the host of the server you are connecting to, for example nvdaremote.com. When the particular server uses an alternative port, you can enter the host in the form <host>:<port>, for example nvdaremote.com:1234. 5. Enter a key into the key field, or press the generate key button. The key is what others will use to control your computer. The machine being controlled and all its clients need to use the same key. 6. Press ok. Once done, you will hear a tone and connected. On the machine that is to be the controlling computer 1. Open the NVDA menu, Tools, Remote, Connect. 2. Choose client in the first radio button. 3. Select Control another machine in the second set of radio buttons. 4. In the host field, enter the host of the server you are connecting to, for example nvdaremote.com. When the particular server uses an alternative port, you can enter the host in the form <host>:<port>, for example nvdaremote.com:1234. 5. Enter a key into the key field, or press the generate key button. The machine being controlled and all its clients need to use the same key. 6. Press ok. Once done, you will hear a tone and connected. Direct connections The server option in the connect dialog allows you to set up a direct connection. Once selecting this, select which mode your end of the connection wwill be in. The other pperson will connect to you using the opposite. Once the mode is selected, you can use the Get External IP button to get your external IP address and make sure the port which is entered in the port field is forwarded correctly. If portcheck detects that your port (6837 by default) is not reachable, a warning will appear. Forward your port and try again. Note: The process for forwarding ports is outside of the scope of this document. Please consult the information provided with your router for further instruction. Enter a key into the key field, or press generate. The other person will need your external IP along with the key to connect. If you entered a port other than the default (6837) in the port field, make sure that the other person appends the alternative port to the host address in the form <external ip>:<port>. Once ok is pressed, you will be connected. When the other person connects, you can use NVDA Remote normally. Controlling the remote machine Once the session is connected, the user of the controlling machine can press f11 to start controlling the remote machine (e.g. by sending keyboard keys or braille input). When NVDA says controlling remote machine, the keyboard and braille display keys you press will go to the remote machine. Furthermore, when the controlling machine is using a braille display, information from the remote machine will be displayed on it. Press f11 again to stop sending keys and switch back to the controlling machine. For best compatibility, please ensure that the keyboard layouts on both machines match. Sharing your session To share a link so someone else can easily join your NVDA REMOTE session, select Copy Link from the Remote menu. IF you are connected as the controlling computer, this link will allow someone else to connect and be controlled. If instead you have set up your computer to be controlled, the link will allow people who you share it with to control your machine. Many applications will allow users to activate this link automatically, but if it does not run from within a specific app, it can be coppied to the clipboard and run from the run dialog. Send Ctrl+Alt+Del While sending keys, it is not possible to send the CTRL+Alt+del combination normally. If you need to send CTRL+Alt+del, and the remote system is on the secure desktop, use this command. Remotely Controlling an Unattended Computer Sometimes, you may wish to control one of your own computers remotely. This is especially helpful if you are traveling, and you wish to control your home PC from your laptop. Or, you may want to control a computer in one room of your house while sitting outside with another PC. A little advanced preparation makes this convenient and possible. 1. Enter the NVDA menu, and choose Tools, then Remote. Finally, press Enter on Options. 2. Check the box that says, "Auto connect to control server on startup". 3. Select whether to use a remote relay server or to locally host the connection. 4. Select Allow this machine to be controlled in the second set of radio buttons. 5. If you host the connection yourself, you will need to ensure that the port entered in the port field (6837 by default) on the controlled machine can be accessed from the controlling machines. 6. If you wish to use a relay server, Fill in both the Host and Key fields, tab to OK, and press Enter. The Generate Key option is not available in this situation. It is best to come up with a key you will remember so you can easily use it from any remote location. For advanced use, you can also configure NVDA Remote to automatically connect to a local or remote relay server in controlling mode. If you want this, select Control another machine in the second set of radio buttons. Note: The autoconnect at startup-related options in the options dialog do not apply until NVDA is restarted. Muting Speech on the Remote Computer If you do not wish to hear the remote computer's speech or NVDA specific sounds, simply access the NVDA menu, Tools, and Remote. Arrow down to Mute Remote, and press Enter. Please note that this option will not disable remote braille output to the controlling display when the controlling machine is sending keys. Ending a remote Session To end a remote session, do the following: 1. On the controlling computer, press F11 to stop controlling the remote machine. You should hear or read the message: "Controlling local machine." If you instead hear or read a message that you are controlling the remote machine, press F11 once more. 2. Access the NVDA menu, then Tools, Remote, and press Enter on Disconnect. Push clipboard The Push clipboard option in the remote menu allows you to push text from your clipboard. when activated, any text on the clipboard will be pushed to the other machines. Configuring NVDA Remote to Work on a Secure Desktop In order for NVDA Remote to work on the secure desktop, the addon must be installed in the NVDA running on the secure desktop. 1. From the NVDA menu, select Preferences, then General Settings. 2. Tab to the Use Currently Saved Settings on the Logon and Other Secure Screens (requires administrator privileges) button, and press Enter. 3. Answer Yes to the prompts regarding copying your settings and about copying plugins, and respond to the User Account Control prompt that may appear. 4. When settings are copied, press Enter to dismiss the OK button. Tab to OK and Enter once more to exit the dialog. Once NVDA Remote is installed on the secure desktop, if you are currently being controlled in a remote session, you will have speech and braille access to the secure desktop when switched to.
On 8/12/20, Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@gmail.com> wrote:
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By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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NVDA remote access and usage
Don Risavy, Jr.
Hello, Was wondering if there was a easier method for using the remote plug in for NVDA as what saw and or tried to use was extremely aggravating, challenging and frustrating trying to figure out how to use the plug in for accessing other computers that are using and have nvda installed. Thanks. Don
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Don H
The quick key nav is the only addon I have installed. Quick Key
Nav is very unreliable.
On 8/12/2020 7:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
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Re: Protonmail
Hello.
Thanks for Your answers, but It means, that I must pay for Bridge, or what? I don't know, where to contact Protonmail, because It is also very used, as gmail by this, which I have read on internet. But, how to explain good my problems? Maybe there isn't any person, who is blind in the Protonmail team.
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Re: some questions related to NVDA
abdul muhamin
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From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] some questions related to NVDA
Hello,
Make sure you have Windows 10 App Essentials installed. You can get it here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=w10
Cheers, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Hi everyone, after updating to latest version, all of the windows 10 apps including mail is a bit laggy, why is that? is there a temporary fix for that? And what about the NVDA’s OCR feature? Have you planned to make it more enhance? I’m asking because today I experience difficulty while extracting the text from some pictures, the OCR is not much helpful as jaws, I love the NVDA screen reader as its so much smaller and portable, and the last thing, what about the graphics/buttons labeler in NVDA? As far as I know, this is the most awaited and requested feature, because there are plenty of screen readers for windows and mobile phones which contains this feature since long, then why NVDA doesn’t have this feature yet? thanks
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Dan Beaver
I started having the problem where quick nav wasn't working at all. I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension installed called Lightning. I looked into it and decided I didn't want it. I removed it and now my quick nav extension is working perfectly.
You might want to see if you have this extension installed
and ifg you do remove it. I bet your quick nav will start
working again. You could just disable it to test this first
before removing it.
Dan Beaver -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Socheat Muth
Hi Rui,
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Thanks. I have sent you a private mail. The problem that you don't see the activation asociated with my license for now is, when I got that message, I have deactivated the license from the computer to prevent any issues to the license. That's why you don't see the activation record on my license. Thanks.
On 8/12/2020 3:21 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
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Re: problem with search edit box in folders
seb naudet
Hello Joseph,
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yes it says searchui is loaded andsearchapp.exe is running. is it a problem with NVDA or something i have to modify in windows? thank you
Le 12/08/2020 à 00:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi,
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Rui Fontes
Hello!
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Please, send us, in private to tiflotecnia@tiflotecnia.com, a NVDA log file... Something is not right, since we do not have any record that you have activated the license after installing Windows... The last record is the deactivation... Best regards, Customer support Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 23:43 de 12/08/2020, Socheat Muth escreveu:
Yes, I did deactivate my license before I reinstall Windows. Don't know why it did this, as I never had the issue before. And I am the only one who currently using the license. And only one computer being activated though.
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Socheat Muth
Yes, I did deactivate my license before I reinstall Windows. Don't know why it did this, as I never had the issue before. And I am the only one who currently using the license. And only one computer being activated though.
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On 8/12/2020 1:29 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Could be a system outage, did you deactivate before you reset the system.
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Could be a system outage, did you deactivate before you reset the system.
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You may have to ask code factory or atguys or whoever you got things from for a licence reset. I have never had this, there are wwarnings to make sure you deactivate or you will lose your licence seat and may have to rebuy the product again, they warn you several times, never the less you can still ask, as long as you had a legitimate issue they may just reset it for you.
On 13/08/2020 9:52 am, Socheat Muth wrote:
Hi all,
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NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Socheat Muth
Hi all,
I just wiped out my PC, and installed a fresh copy of Windows. WHen I activate vocalizer on the machine, I got the following message. Your license can not be verified. Please check the following: 1. Your credentials (email and password) are correct (you can change them under the vocalizer expressive menu) 2. You are not using someone else's activation or you are not using the same activation in different computers at the same time. This is not legal, and is against license terms. 3. You are having internet problems. For further clarification, please contact tiflotecnia, Lda, or your local dealer. OK Could anyone tell me what exactly is the problem? I can use it just fine. But the message keep showing whenever I restart NVDA or restart my computer. Thanks.
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Re: can nvda read shared screen in Zoom?
Ralf Kefferpuetz
I do hat all the time, make sure your focus is on the shared content %(use F6 until your hear "Zoom meeting") then use NVDA-r, the NVDA OCR recognition to read the shared content.
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Regards, Ralf
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aschalew Byness Sent: Mittwoch, 12. August 2020 01:56 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] can nvda read shared screen in Zoom? Hi All? I want to read the slydes shared by a host in a Zoom meeting. Can NVDA read the shared screen by the zoom host to me? if yes, How?
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Re: Protonmail
Jesse Farquharson
Right right, Luke. Basically what I meant was you don't have to do anything significant with it beyond the initial setup. :-)
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Re: Protonmail
Luke Davis
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020, Jesse Farquharson wrote:
The bridge is usable, and you will only have to use it once. After that, you shouldn't have to open it again. It just allows your preferred client to accessA slight correction here. You have to configure it once. But you have to run it in the background all the time, or have it start automatically. It is running a local IMAP and SMTP server on your machine, which then encrypts and delivers into and out of the ProtonMail network. So you do need to have the bridge running any time you want to be able to access Proton from within Thunderbird or Outlook or whatever. But fortunately after that initial config, all you should have to do (from my few hours of playing with it) is start and minimize it. Luke
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Re: Protonmail
Luke Davis
Shaun, from your comments, it seems evident that you have no idea what ProtonMail is.
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ProtonMail is not just encrypted to and from their network. It's encrypted within their network, so not even they can access your mail. In the past, gmail has freely admitted that they accessed your mail, and used it for advertising purposes. Proton is not subject to U.S. laws; it operates under Swiss privacy law, and the GDPR. Gmail does not. Proton does not keep logs of accesses, and does not require your name in order to sign up. And the bridge is necessary only if you want to access Proton mail in your own mail apps; you can not without it, because they do not offer IMAP or SMTP service directly, only through the bridge. Without the bridge, you can only access it through the website, or the mobile apps. I hope this clarifies. Luke
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmmm sounds like the bridge is a disgusting mess and not worth my time.
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Re: Protonmail
Jesse Farquharson
Primarily, Shaun, because Google couldn't give a **** about you, your privacy, or your data. As long as they make money off of you, they're happy. The advantage of ProtonMail is that you can actually encrypt your e-mails, so that unless someone has physical access to the device you are logged in on, or the device your recipient is receiving from, no one can intercept your message. The bridge is usable, and you will only have to use it once. After that, you shouldn't have to open it again. It just allows your preferred client to access your ProtonMail account. I will go on the record here stating that the interface on the web is fully accessible. The iOS app has certain... quirks, but can still be used once you know what you're dealing with. From what I've seen, Proton Support is very responsive. We just have to figure out how to communicate with them the right way.
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Re: Protonmail
Hmmm sounds like the bridge is a disgusting mess and not worth my time.
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I wander if you could run without it in the first place. I wander if the devs of this actually would help fixing their mess. Then again, why should I use proton mail when gmail is actually more accessible, in fact a lot of programs now at least newer ones support the new security protocol google uses which makes them recognised as secured apps.
On 12/08/2020, Jesse Farquharson <jesse100rules@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Luke,
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