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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 08:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension installed called Lightning.This was the Calendar/Schedule extension for Thunderbird, from way, way back. If you don't use that functionality, then removing it is a good idea. I've had consistent behavior out of the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension for years now. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: NVDA remote access and usage
Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@...>
Thanks for the info as will look it over later today or tonight to see what was doing wrong as was using two different computers one my desktop and one my laptop both have the latest nvda installed and the remote add in installed too.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra Sent: August 12, 2020 10:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access and usage hello nvda remote user guide from nvdaremote.com website. NVDA Remote Access Version 2.2 Welcome to the NVDA Remote Access addon, which will allow you to connect to another computer running the free NVDA screen reader. It makes no difference whether you are across the room or across the world. Connecting is simple, and there are very few commands to remember. You can connect to another person's computer, or allow a trusted person to connect to your system to perform routine maintenance, diagnose a problem, or provide training. Before You Begin You will need to have installed NVDA on both computers, and obtain the NVDA Remote Access addon. The installation of both NVDA and the Remote Access addon are standard. If you need more information, this can be found in NVDA's User Guide. Updating When updating the addon, if you have installed NVDA Remote on the secure desktop, it is recommended that you also update the copy on the secure desktop. To do this, first update your existing addon. Then open the NVDA menu, preferences, General settings, and press the button labeled "Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges)". Starting a remote session through a relay server On the computer to be controlled 1. Open the NVDA menu, Tools, Remote, Connect. 2. Choose client in the first radio button. 3. Select Allow this machine to be controlled in the second set of radio buttons. 4. In the host field, enter the host of the server you are connecting to, for example nvdaremote.com. When the particular server uses an alternative port, you can enter the host in the form <host>:<port>, for example nvdaremote.com:1234. 5. Enter a key into the key field, or press the generate key button. The key is what others will use to control your computer. The machine being controlled and all its clients need to use the same key. 6. Press ok. Once done, you will hear a tone and connected. On the machine that is to be the controlling computer 1. Open the NVDA menu, Tools, Remote, Connect. 2. Choose client in the first radio button. 3. Select Control another machine in the second set of radio buttons. 4. In the host field, enter the host of the server you are connecting to, for example nvdaremote.com. When the particular server uses an alternative port, you can enter the host in the form <host>:<port>, for example nvdaremote.com:1234. 5. Enter a key into the key field, or press the generate key button. The machine being controlled and all its clients need to use the same key. 6. Press ok. Once done, you will hear a tone and connected. Direct connections The server option in the connect dialog allows you to set up a direct connection. Once selecting this, select which mode your end of the connection wwill be in. The other pperson will connect to you using the opposite. Once the mode is selected, you can use the Get External IP button to get your external IP address and make sure the port which is entered in the port field is forwarded correctly. If portcheck detects that your port (6837 by default) is not reachable, a warning will appear. Forward your port and try again. Note: The process for forwarding ports is outside of the scope of this document. Please consult the information provided with your router for further instruction. Enter a key into the key field, or press generate. The other person will need your external IP along with the key to connect. If you entered a port other than the default (6837) in the port field, make sure that the other person appends the alternative port to the host address in the form <external ip>:<port>. Once ok is pressed, you will be connected. When the other person connects, you can use NVDA Remote normally. Controlling the remote machine Once the session is connected, the user of the controlling machine can press f11 to start controlling the remote machine (e.g. by sending keyboard keys or braille input). When NVDA says controlling remote machine, the keyboard and braille display keys you press will go to the remote machine. Furthermore, when the controlling machine is using a braille display, information from the remote machine will be displayed on it. Press f11 again to stop sending keys and switch back to the controlling machine. For best compatibility, please ensure that the keyboard layouts on both machines match. Sharing your session To share a link so someone else can easily join your NVDA REMOTE session, select Copy Link from the Remote menu. IF you are connected as the controlling computer, this link will allow someone else to connect and be controlled. If instead you have set up your computer to be controlled, the link will allow people who you share it with to control your machine. Many applications will allow users to activate this link automatically, but if it does not run from within a specific app, it can be coppied to the clipboard and run from the run dialog. Send Ctrl+Alt+Del While sending keys, it is not possible to send the CTRL+Alt+del combination normally. If you need to send CTRL+Alt+del, and the remote system is on the secure desktop, use this command. Remotely Controlling an Unattended Computer Sometimes, you may wish to control one of your own computers remotely. This is especially helpful if you are traveling, and you wish to control your home PC from your laptop. Or, you may want to control a computer in one room of your house while sitting outside with another PC. A little advanced preparation makes this convenient and possible. 1. Enter the NVDA menu, and choose Tools, then Remote. Finally, press Enter on Options. 2. Check the box that says, "Auto connect to control server on startup". 3. Select whether to use a remote relay server or to locally host the connection. 4. Select Allow this machine to be controlled in the second set of radio buttons. 5. If you host the connection yourself, you will need to ensure that the port entered in the port field (6837 by default) on the controlled machine can be accessed from the controlling machines. 6. If you wish to use a relay server, Fill in both the Host and Key fields, tab to OK, and press Enter. The Generate Key option is not available in this situation. It is best to come up with a key you will remember so you can easily use it from any remote location. For advanced use, you can also configure NVDA Remote to automatically connect to a local or remote relay server in controlling mode. If you want this, select Control another machine in the second set of radio buttons. Note: The autoconnect at startup-related options in the options dialog do not apply until NVDA is restarted. Muting Speech on the Remote Computer If you do not wish to hear the remote computer's speech or NVDA specific sounds, simply access the NVDA menu, Tools, and Remote. Arrow down to Mute Remote, and press Enter. Please note that this option will not disable remote braille output to the controlling display when the controlling machine is sending keys. Ending a remote Session To end a remote session, do the following: 1. On the controlling computer, press F11 to stop controlling the remote machine. You should hear or read the message: "Controlling local machine." If you instead hear or read a message that you are controlling the remote machine, press F11 once more. 2. Access the NVDA menu, then Tools, Remote, and press Enter on Disconnect. Push clipboard The Push clipboard option in the remote menu allows you to push text from your clipboard. when activated, any text on the clipboard will be pushed to the other machines. Configuring NVDA Remote to Work on a Secure Desktop In order for NVDA Remote to work on the secure desktop, the addon must be installed in the NVDA running on the secure desktop. 1. From the NVDA menu, select Preferences, then General Settings. 2. Tab to the Use Currently Saved Settings on the Logon and Other Secure Screens (requires administrator privileges) button, and press Enter. 3. Answer Yes to the prompts regarding copying your settings and about copying plugins, and respond to the User Account Control prompt that may appear. 4. When settings are copied, press Enter to dismiss the OK button. Tab to OK and Enter once more to exit the dialog. Once NVDA Remote is installed on the secure desktop, if you are currently being controlled in a remote session, you will have speech and braille access to the secure desktop when switched to. On 8/12/20, Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: NVDA remote access and usage
Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@...>
Ok how do I contact you off-list? Thanks. Don
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: August 12, 2020 10:32 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access and usage
Actually, I have had the opposite result. I use it here at work on two computers. If I can help write me off list. I got my help from the nvdaremote.com page. Hope that helps.
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Re: problem with search edit box in folders
Hi,
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Pressing Tab might not help as it shows the content of the folder in question. When I do press Enter on a search result, focus moves to folders tree view. To help diagnose this, I need a debug log (restart NVDA with debug logging enabled), reproduce the problem, press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer, select and copy everything, and paste it as a private email to me; I'll then inform the list about my findings). Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:19 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with search edit box in folders Windows 10 App Essentials is installed and up to date :) but it doesn't help, down arrow only works to brows 10 previous searchs. if i press enter on one of these previous search, i'm stuck in an empty window. the only way to see results list is to alt tab. same problem if i type a new search. enter, nothing then alt tab and the list is correctly displaied. i haven't tried to modify windows settings as suggested in another message. thank you Le 12/08/2020 à 17:58, Joseph Lee a écrit : Hi,
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Re: problem with search edit box in folders
seb naudet
Windows 10 App Essentials is installed and up to date :)
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but it doesn't help, down arrow only works to brows 10 previous searchs. if i press enter on one of these previous search, i'm stuck in an empty window. the only way to see results list is to alt tab. same problem if i type a new search. enter, nothing then alt tab and the list is correctly displaied. i haven't tried to modify windows settings as suggested in another message. thank you
Le 12/08/2020 à 17:58, Joseph Lee a écrit :
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Re: problem with search edit box in folders
Hi,
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This confirms what I thought was happening. This is a change in Windows (since Version 1909) and it is here to stay. To access search results, you must use down arrow key. But before you do that, try installing Windows 10 App Essentials add-on and see if that makes a difference (I yes, this is another justification for me to do something about it). Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 3:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with search edit box in folders Hello Joseph, yes it says searchui is loaded andsearchapp.exe is running. is it a problem with NVDA or something i have to modify in windows? thank you Le 12/08/2020 à 00:44, Joseph Lee a écrit : Hi,
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question for listers, who are also musicians
J.G
Hello,
on NVDA's github I opened an issue about musical symbols which would be added in to NVDA. link: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11486 I would like to know, is it usable for NVDA users? if it would be usable, I plan to work on this issue and work on file, which has been linked in this issue. obviously I will gladly appretiate any help from community, because it is my first project to contribute to NVDA excluding translations. two questions are obvious: - on which level should be these symbol spoken (none, some, most or all) etc - should be "musical symbol" spoken near actual symbol e.g. musical symbol half note? - And did I forget any important symbol, which should be included here? thanks. regards, Jožef
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Re: NVDA remote access and usage
Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
Actually, I have had the opposite result. I use it here at work on two computers. If I can help write me off list. I got my help from the nvdaremote.com page. Hope that helps.
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On Aug 12, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@...> wrote:
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Re: Protonmail
Jesse Farquharson
Hello, The bridge is a feature which can be accessed by any of the paid plans, but unfortunately not for free. You can still use the web interface though.
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Re: NVDA remote access and usage
hello nvda remote user guide from
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nvdaremote.com website. NVDA Remote Access Version 2.2 Welcome to the NVDA Remote Access addon, which will allow you to connect to another computer running the free NVDA screen reader. It makes no difference whether you are across the room or across the world. Connecting is simple, and there are very few commands to remember. You can connect to another person's computer, or allow a trusted person to connect to your system to perform routine maintenance, diagnose a problem, or provide training. Before You Begin You will need to have installed NVDA on both computers, and obtain the NVDA Remote Access addon. The installation of both NVDA and the Remote Access addon are standard. If you need more information, this can be found in NVDA's User Guide. Updating When updating the addon, if you have installed NVDA Remote on the secure desktop, it is recommended that you also update the copy on the secure desktop. To do this, first update your existing addon. Then open the NVDA menu, preferences, General settings, and press the button labeled "Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges)". Starting a remote session through a relay server On the computer to be controlled 1. Open the NVDA menu, Tools, Remote, Connect. 2. Choose client in the first radio button. 3. Select Allow this machine to be controlled in the second set of radio buttons. 4. In the host field, enter the host of the server you are connecting to, for example nvdaremote.com. When the particular server uses an alternative port, you can enter the host in the form <host>:<port>, for example nvdaremote.com:1234. 5. Enter a key into the key field, or press the generate key button. The key is what others will use to control your computer. The machine being controlled and all its clients need to use the same key. 6. Press ok. Once done, you will hear a tone and connected. On the machine that is to be the controlling computer 1. Open the NVDA menu, Tools, Remote, Connect. 2. Choose client in the first radio button. 3. Select Control another machine in the second set of radio buttons. 4. In the host field, enter the host of the server you are connecting to, for example nvdaremote.com. When the particular server uses an alternative port, you can enter the host in the form <host>:<port>, for example nvdaremote.com:1234. 5. Enter a key into the key field, or press the generate key button. The machine being controlled and all its clients need to use the same key. 6. Press ok. Once done, you will hear a tone and connected. Direct connections The server option in the connect dialog allows you to set up a direct connection. Once selecting this, select which mode your end of the connection wwill be in. The other pperson will connect to you using the opposite. Once the mode is selected, you can use the Get External IP button to get your external IP address and make sure the port which is entered in the port field is forwarded correctly. If portcheck detects that your port (6837 by default) is not reachable, a warning will appear. Forward your port and try again. Note: The process for forwarding ports is outside of the scope of this document. Please consult the information provided with your router for further instruction. Enter a key into the key field, or press generate. The other person will need your external IP along with the key to connect. If you entered a port other than the default (6837) in the port field, make sure that the other person appends the alternative port to the host address in the form <external ip>:<port>. Once ok is pressed, you will be connected. When the other person connects, you can use NVDA Remote normally. Controlling the remote machine Once the session is connected, the user of the controlling machine can press f11 to start controlling the remote machine (e.g. by sending keyboard keys or braille input). When NVDA says controlling remote machine, the keyboard and braille display keys you press will go to the remote machine. Furthermore, when the controlling machine is using a braille display, information from the remote machine will be displayed on it. Press f11 again to stop sending keys and switch back to the controlling machine. For best compatibility, please ensure that the keyboard layouts on both machines match. Sharing your session To share a link so someone else can easily join your NVDA REMOTE session, select Copy Link from the Remote menu. IF you are connected as the controlling computer, this link will allow someone else to connect and be controlled. If instead you have set up your computer to be controlled, the link will allow people who you share it with to control your machine. Many applications will allow users to activate this link automatically, but if it does not run from within a specific app, it can be coppied to the clipboard and run from the run dialog. Send Ctrl+Alt+Del While sending keys, it is not possible to send the CTRL+Alt+del combination normally. If you need to send CTRL+Alt+del, and the remote system is on the secure desktop, use this command. Remotely Controlling an Unattended Computer Sometimes, you may wish to control one of your own computers remotely. This is especially helpful if you are traveling, and you wish to control your home PC from your laptop. Or, you may want to control a computer in one room of your house while sitting outside with another PC. A little advanced preparation makes this convenient and possible. 1. Enter the NVDA menu, and choose Tools, then Remote. Finally, press Enter on Options. 2. Check the box that says, "Auto connect to control server on startup". 3. Select whether to use a remote relay server or to locally host the connection. 4. Select Allow this machine to be controlled in the second set of radio buttons. 5. If you host the connection yourself, you will need to ensure that the port entered in the port field (6837 by default) on the controlled machine can be accessed from the controlling machines. 6. If you wish to use a relay server, Fill in both the Host and Key fields, tab to OK, and press Enter. The Generate Key option is not available in this situation. It is best to come up with a key you will remember so you can easily use it from any remote location. For advanced use, you can also configure NVDA Remote to automatically connect to a local or remote relay server in controlling mode. If you want this, select Control another machine in the second set of radio buttons. Note: The autoconnect at startup-related options in the options dialog do not apply until NVDA is restarted. Muting Speech on the Remote Computer If you do not wish to hear the remote computer's speech or NVDA specific sounds, simply access the NVDA menu, Tools, and Remote. Arrow down to Mute Remote, and press Enter. Please note that this option will not disable remote braille output to the controlling display when the controlling machine is sending keys. Ending a remote Session To end a remote session, do the following: 1. On the controlling computer, press F11 to stop controlling the remote machine. You should hear or read the message: "Controlling local machine." If you instead hear or read a message that you are controlling the remote machine, press F11 once more. 2. Access the NVDA menu, then Tools, Remote, and press Enter on Disconnect. Push clipboard The Push clipboard option in the remote menu allows you to push text from your clipboard. when activated, any text on the clipboard will be pushed to the other machines. Configuring NVDA Remote to Work on a Secure Desktop In order for NVDA Remote to work on the secure desktop, the addon must be installed in the NVDA running on the secure desktop. 1. From the NVDA menu, select Preferences, then General Settings. 2. Tab to the Use Currently Saved Settings on the Logon and Other Secure Screens (requires administrator privileges) button, and press Enter. 3. Answer Yes to the prompts regarding copying your settings and about copying plugins, and respond to the User Account Control prompt that may appear. 4. When settings are copied, press Enter to dismiss the OK button. Tab to OK and Enter once more to exit the dialog. Once NVDA Remote is installed on the secure desktop, if you are currently being controlled in a remote session, you will have speech and braille access to the secure desktop when switched to.
On 8/12/20, Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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NVDA remote access and usage
Don Risavy, Jr. <donaldrisavy@...>
Hello, Was wondering if there was a easier method for using the remote plug in for NVDA as what saw and or tried to use was extremely aggravating, challenging and frustrating trying to figure out how to use the plug in for accessing other computers that are using and have nvda installed. Thanks. Don
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Don H
The quick key nav is the only addon I have installed. Quick Key
Nav is very unreliable.
On 8/12/2020 7:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
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Re: Protonmail
Hello.
Thanks for Your answers, but It means, that I must pay for Bridge, or what? I don't know, where to contact Protonmail, because It is also very used, as gmail by this, which I have read on internet. But, how to explain good my problems? Maybe there isn't any person, who is blind in the Protonmail team.
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Re: some questions related to NVDA
abdul muhamin
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From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] some questions related to NVDA
Hello,
Make sure you have Windows 10 App Essentials installed. You can get it here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=w10
Cheers, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Hi everyone, after updating to latest version, all of the windows 10 apps including mail is a bit laggy, why is that? is there a temporary fix for that? And what about the NVDA’s OCR feature? Have you planned to make it more enhance? I’m asking because today I experience difficulty while extracting the text from some pictures, the OCR is not much helpful as jaws, I love the NVDA screen reader as its so much smaller and portable, and the last thing, what about the graphics/buttons labeler in NVDA? As far as I know, this is the most awaited and requested feature, because there are plenty of screen readers for windows and mobile phones which contains this feature since long, then why NVDA doesn’t have this feature yet? thanks
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Dan Beaver
I started having the problem where quick nav wasn't working at all. I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension installed called Lightning. I looked into it and decided I didn't want it. I removed it and now my quick nav extension is working perfectly.
You might want to see if you have this extension installed
and ifg you do remove it. I bet your quick nav will start
working again. You could just disable it to test this first
before removing it.
Dan Beaver -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Hi Rui,
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Thanks. I have sent you a private mail. The problem that you don't see the activation asociated with my license for now is, when I got that message, I have deactivated the license from the computer to prevent any issues to the license. That's why you don't see the activation record on my license. Thanks.
On 8/12/2020 3:21 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
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Re: problem with search edit box in folders
seb naudet
Hello Joseph,
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yes it says searchui is loaded andsearchapp.exe is running. is it a problem with NVDA or something i have to modify in windows? thank you
Le 12/08/2020 à 00:44, Joseph Lee a écrit :
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Rui Fontes
Hello!
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Please, send us, in private to tiflotecnia@tiflotecnia.com, a NVDA log file... Something is not right, since we do not have any record that you have activated the license after installing Windows... The last record is the deactivation... Best regards, Customer support Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 23:43 de 12/08/2020, Socheat Muth escreveu:
Yes, I did deactivate my license before I reinstall Windows. Don't know why it did this, as I never had the issue before. And I am the only one who currently using the license. And only one computer being activated though.
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Yes, I did deactivate my license before I reinstall Windows. Don't know why it did this, as I never had the issue before. And I am the only one who currently using the license. And only one computer being activated though.
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On 8/12/2020 1:29 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Could be a system outage, did you deactivate before you reset the system.
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Could be a system outage, did you deactivate before you reset the system.
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You may have to ask code factory or atguys or whoever you got things from for a licence reset. I have never had this, there are wwarnings to make sure you deactivate or you will lose your licence seat and may have to rebuy the product again, they warn you several times, never the less you can still ask, as long as you had a legitimate issue they may just reset it for you.
On 13/08/2020 9:52 am, Socheat Muth wrote:
Hi all,
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