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We Couldn’t Complete the Updates/Undoing Changes

Kevin Chao
 

I installed Windows Updates, but since last night - NVDA only reads text in subject.
It seems this is a common issue for Win10 and Win8.1: http://windowsreport.com/we-couldnt-complete-the-updatesundoing-changes/

I tried what similar article suggested, but they require going into boot options and startup in safe mode, which don't work with screen readers.
I have tried Microsoft disability Help Desk, but they couldn't remote in, and told me to get sighted help.

Any help from list, please? Thanks!


How to change a symbol setting.

Life My Way
 

I am wondering how to get Nvda to say Period instead of Dot when pressing the Period Key on the keyboard.
Does anyone know how to do this. If so Please let me know how to do this, would be of great help to me.


nvda giving an invalid address

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon list; Marv here.  I am having a minor issue, also.  When using the portable copy of nvda on a usb stick, when going to an addon link in an e mail message, I get a message that says the address is invalid.  The only way I can get it to work is to copy the link to the clipboard and then paste it in.  On the installed copy things work all right.  This happens on a couple other links, also.  If anyone has a resolution, it would be appreciated.


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

 

hi gene. you realized my mean completely and i appreciate you for your
clarification.

On 3/12/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
But this has nothing to do with the question in the original message. I
explained what was being described earlier today because so many people were
not addressing it and were discussing other things related to the caps key.
The person is receiving messages in which some letters in some words are
capitalized. They are not full words, they are letters in words, such as in
the middle of words.

Evidently, this is intentional and sounds like a form of empahsizing certain
letters or some sort of visual effect.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 1:00 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:


No. I'm referring to the fact that thekeys on this keyboard are very close
together and I have to be careful about accidentally hitting the caps lock
key.




On 3/12/2016 10:57 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Is this referring to NVDA's tendency to spell out some words when in all
caps? eg. when the word "it" is in a sentence/phrase in all caps, it's
pronounced as "i t", like the abbreviation. It can be annoying sometimes but
I've adjusted to it.


> From: nedster66@gmail.com
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:52:57 -0800
>
> Hi, I've done this. I have a full desktop keyboard. I accidentally hit
the caps lock and I yelled through the message. Luckly it was someone off
list. Maybe that person had his caps lock on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
> Sent: March-11-16 10:14 PM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
>
> Hi, Gene,
>
> I have to be careful too because this keyboard has all the keys close
> together so I have to make sure I don't accidentally press the caps lock

> key.
>
> Rosemarie
> On 3/11/2016 10:10 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > They might have there caps lock key on tell them to turn it off if
> > they are all in capitals. Say they are yelling.
> >
> > If you have a mic, you could always audio chat.
> >
> > Gene nz
> >
> >
> > On 12-Mar-16 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
> >> hi every one.
> >> how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
> >> beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
> >> in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
> >> but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
> >> letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
> >> sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not
understand
> >> my skype messages and emails?
> >> what should i do to solve this problem?
> >> thanks and god bless you all.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Gene
 

But this has nothing to do with the question in the original message.  I explained what was being described earlier today because so many people were not addressing it and were discussing other things related to the caps key.  The person is receiving messages in which some letters in some words are capitalized.  They are not full words, they are letters in words, such as in the middle of words. 
 
Evidently, this is intentional and sounds like a form of empahsizing certain letters or some sort of visual effect. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

No. I'm referring to the fact that thekeys on this keyboard are very close together and I have to be careful about accidentally hitting the caps lock key.



On 3/12/2016 10:57 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Is this referring to NVDA's tendency to spell out some words when in all caps? eg. when the word "it" is in a sentence/phrase in all caps, it's pronounced as "i t", like the abbreviation. It can be annoying sometimes but I've adjusted to it.

> From: nedster66@...
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:52:57 -0800
>
> Hi, I've done this. I have a full desktop keyboard. I accidentally hit the caps lock and I yelled through the message. Luckly it was someone off list. Maybe that person had his caps lock on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
> Sent: March-11-16 10:14 PM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
>
> Hi, Gene,
>
> I have to be careful too because this keyboard has all the keys close
> together so I have to make sure I don't accidentally press the caps lock
> key.
>
> Rosemarie
> On 3/11/2016 10:10 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > They might have there caps lock key on tell them to turn it off if
> > they are all in capitals. Say they are yelling.
> >
> > If you have a mic, you could always audio chat.
> >
> > Gene nz
> >
> >
> > On 12-Mar-16 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
> >> hi every one.
> >> how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
> >> beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
> >> in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
> >> but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
> >> letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
> >> sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
> >> my skype messages and emails?
> >> what should i do to solve this problem?
> >> thanks and god bless you all.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

No. I'm referring to the fact that thekeys on this keyboard are very close together and I have to be careful about accidentally hitting the caps lock key.



On 3/12/2016 10:57 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Is this referring to NVDA's tendency to spell out some words when in all caps? eg. when the word "it" is in a sentence/phrase in all caps, it's pronounced as "i t", like the abbreviation. It can be annoying sometimes but I've adjusted to it.

> From: nedster66@...
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:52:57 -0800
>
> Hi, I've done this. I have a full desktop keyboard. I accidentally hit the caps lock and I yelled through the message. Luckly it was someone off list. Maybe that person had his caps lock on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
> Sent: March-11-16 10:14 PM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
>
> Hi, Gene,
>
> I have to be careful too because this keyboard has all the keys close
> together so I have to make sure I don't accidentally press the caps lock
> key.
>
> Rosemarie
> On 3/11/2016 10:10 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > They might have there caps lock key on tell them to turn it off if
> > they are all in capitals. Say they are yelling.
> >
> > If you have a mic, you could always audio chat.
> >
> > Gene nz
> >
> >
> > On 12-Mar-16 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
> >> hi every one.
> >> how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
> >> beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
> >> in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
> >> but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
> >> letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
> >> sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
> >> my skype messages and emails?
> >> what should i do to solve this problem?
> >> thanks and god bless you all.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Is this referring to NVDA's tendency to spell out some words when in all caps? eg. when the word "it" is in a sentence/phrase in all caps, it's pronounced as "i t", like the abbreviation. It can be annoying sometimes but I've adjusted to it.

> From: nedster66@...
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:52:57 -0800
>
> Hi, I've done this. I have a full desktop keyboard. I accidentally hit the caps lock and I yelled through the message. Luckly it was someone off list. Maybe that person had his caps lock on.
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
> Sent: March-11-16 10:14 PM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
>
> Hi, Gene,
>
> I have to be careful too because this keyboard has all the keys close
> together so I have to make sure I don't accidentally press the caps lock
> key.
>
> Rosemarie
> On 3/11/2016 10:10 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > They might have there caps lock key on tell them to turn it off if
> > they are all in capitals. Say they are yelling.
> >
> > If you have a mic, you could always audio chat.
> >
> > Gene nz
> >
> >
> > On 12-Mar-16 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
> >> hi every one.
> >> how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
> >> beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
> >> in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
> >> but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
> >> letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
> >> sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
> >> my skype messages and emails?
> >> what should i do to solve this problem?
> >> thanks and god bless you all.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

 

no my caps luck is off and i use nvda desktop key.

On 3/12/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Arleen,

One time I was sending a message to request a song on an oldies show. I
accidentally hit the caps lock key and the message didn't go through.
It's probably a good thing it didn't because the DJ probablywould have
thought I was yelling at him. I'm glad I have another keyboard where the
keys are a bit farther apart.

Rosemarie
On 3/12/2016 9:52 AM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, I've done this. I have a full desktop keyboard. I accidentally hit the
caps lock and I yelled through the message. Luckly it was someone off
list. Maybe that person had his caps lock on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
Sent: March-11-16 10:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Hi, Gene,

I have to be careful too because this keyboard has all the keys close
together so I have to make sure I don't accidentally press the caps lock
key.

Rosemarie
On 3/11/2016 10:10 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi

They might have there caps lock key on tell them to turn it off if
they are all in capitals. Say they are yelling.

If you have a mic, you could always audio chat.

Gene nz


On 12-Mar-16 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi every one.
how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
my skype messages and emails?
what should i do to solve this problem?
thanks and god bless you all.









--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Arleen,

One time I was sending a message to request a song on an oldies show. I accidentally hit the caps lock key and the message didn't go through. It's probably a good thing it didn't because the DJ probablywould have thought I was yelling at him. I'm glad I have another keyboard where the keys are a bit farther apart.

Rosemarie

On 3/12/2016 9:52 AM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, I've done this. I have a full desktop keyboard. I accidentally hit the caps lock and I yelled through the message. Luckly it was someone off list. Maybe that person had his caps lock on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
Sent: March-11-16 10:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Hi, Gene,

I have to be careful too because this keyboard has all the keys close
together so I have to make sure I don't accidentally press the caps lock
key.

Rosemarie
On 3/11/2016 10:10 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi

They might have there caps lock key on tell them to turn it off if
they are all in capitals. Say they are yelling.

If you have a mic, you could always audio chat.

Gene nz


On 12-Mar-16 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi every one.
how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
my skype messages and emails?
what should i do to solve this problem?
thanks and god bless you all.






Re: NVDA Freezing

 

Hi,

Which versn of NVDA is this, and does this occur when you tell NvDA to use a specific synthesizer, add-on or a braille display? I and NV access folks are concerned about this at the moment (there is an ongoing effort to resolve this).

Cheers,

Josephi

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:47 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Freezing

 

Hey,

This has only started happening recently, but as it's happened three times now, I thought I should report it. I don't know whether it was caused by the latest update of NVDA or my recent acquisition of a Focus 40 Blue Braille display, but it happened the first time the day after the latter occurrance and I updated to the new NVDA about a week before that.

What happens is that NVDA freezes after seeming to have started up all right. I know it freezes because I can hear nothing from it nor see any output from the Braille display. The first time this happened I got my sister to look at the screen and there was an error message about some file that couldn't be read/found...or something. I can't remember the details and I obviously cannot check for myself. All I know is there was a file extension in the error. The last two times, I just shut down the computer and restarted. Most of the time, NVDA works as normal. The one thing the three incidents have in common is that they happened just after NVDA started up. The first two times it was on initial startup. The second time was after I restarted NVDA due to it responding sluggishly, an occurrence that has happened often enough in the past and wasn't a cause for concern to me.

Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have more information? I'd appreciate any input you can provide.


NVDA Freezing

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Hey,

This has only started happening recently, but as it's happened three times now, I thought I should report it. I don't know whether it was caused by the latest update of NVDA or my recent acquisition of a Focus 40 Blue Braille display, but it happened the first time the day after the latter occurrance and I updated to the new NVDA about a week before that.

What happens is that NVDA freezes after seeming to have started up all right. I know it freezes because I can hear nothing from it nor see any output from the Braille display. The first time this happened I got my sister to look at the screen and there was an error message about some file that couldn't be read/found...or something. I can't remember the details and I obviously cannot check for myself. All I know is there was a file extension in the error. The last two times, I just shut down the computer and restarted. Most of the time, NVDA works as normal. The one thing the three incidents have in common is that they happened just after NVDA started up. The first two times it was on initial startup. The second time was after I restarted NVDA due to it responding sluggishly, an occurrence that has happened often enough in the past and wasn't a cause for concern to me.

Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have more information? I'd appreciate any input you can provide.


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Arlene
 

Hi, I've done this. I have a full desktop keyboard. I accidentally hit the caps lock and I yelled through the message. Luckly it was someone off list. Maybe that person had his caps lock on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
Sent: March-11-16 10:14 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Hi, Gene,

I have to be careful too because this keyboard has all the keys close
together so I have to make sure I don't accidentally press the caps lock
key.

Rosemarie
On 3/11/2016 10:10 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi

They might have there caps lock key on tell them to turn it off if
they are all in capitals. Say they are yelling.

If you have a mic, you could always audio chat.

Gene nz


On 12-Mar-16 6:52 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi every one.
how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
my skype messages and emails?
what should i do to solve this problem?
thanks and god bless you all.




Re: about nvda and browse mode in the internet:

Andre Fisher
 

1. Press Control+NVDA+P
2. Press Alt+N for New Profile.
3. Tab, then down arrow in a list of radio buttons to Say all. Press Enter twice to Manually activate.
4. Go to Document Formatting settings dialog and configure the say all profile to your liking. Press Enter.
5. Press Control+NVDA+P again and Tab to Manually deactivate. Enter. That's it!
For more on configuration profiles, read the user guide.


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Andre Fisher
 

It's the dictionary (builtin.dic) that does this. JAWS has a similar behaviour.

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
There a couple of checkboxes in the voice dialogue that I've never experimented withUse spelling functionality if supported, andone other which is something to do with trusting something. I suspect that the way data is being sent to the synth can be controlled somehow, so that case is never reported at all.
This may well be what Narator is doing. If so then it might be worth asking about this on the dev list as I'd not know about the low level handing of this sort of data.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Le Baudour" <p.lebaudour@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:


I tried with narrator,  using the same sapi voice as in nvda nd it says the word without that 'problem'.
So it is nvda that does it. The thing is, in most cases, it  is proper - mostly met, I guess, in programming and trademarks.
So apart from using narrator (i don't know what does jaws do, didn't wan't to restart my computer right now.), or finding an hidden option or some simple command for python console, I don't believe there is any simple solution... maybe he should learn programming to write an add-on that lowercases everything before it goes to other processing...   :)


-- Patrick
Le 12/03/2016 15:31, Gene a écrit :
That is for the pitch that is encountered when reading letter by letter
or when typing with echo character on.  The problem the person is having
is that when a word has capital letters in the middle of the word, it is
not read as though it were a typical word.  I have not seen any setting
that affects this and I don't know if it has anything to do with NVDA or
if it is the synthesizer itself that causes this behavior.
To illustrate, I capitalized the G and I in the word "original" that
immediately follows this message.  When I do this, or is read then G I
is spoken as if it were a word, then the rest of the word is spoken.
This spelling of capital letters makes reading almost impossible because
words become unrecognizable or almost so.
This is completely unrelated to any settings I am aware of in NVDA.
This may be an NVDA behavior because I tried reading the word with three
different synthesizers and got similar results.
Gene









Re: nvda and microsoft access:

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Kenny,

 

I can’t help you there. I have tried creating tables and some manual queries and they did work in access 2013.

 

Pranav

 

From: Kenny Peyattt jr. [mailto:p.wildcat1234@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:54 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:

 

I am using access 2010. I found a ticket on github and it was still open, and was wondering what work if any needs to be done to make access work better with nvda.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: Pranav Lal [mailto:pranav.lal@...]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:25 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:

 

Hi Kenny,

 

Which version of Microsoft Access are you using?

 

Pranav


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

There a couple of checkboxes in the voice dialogue that I've never experimented withUse spelling functionality if supported, andone other which is something to do with trusting something. I suspect that the way data is being sent to the synth can be controlled somehow, so that case is never reported at all.
This may well be what Narator is doing. If so then it might be worth asking about this on the dev list as I'd not know about the low level handing of this sort of data.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Le Baudour" <p.lebaudour@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:


I tried with narrator, using the same sapi voice as in nvda nd it says the word without that 'problem'.
So it is nvda that does it. The thing is, in most cases, it is proper - mostly met, I guess, in programming and trademarks.
So apart from using narrator (i don't know what does jaws do, didn't wan't to restart my computer right now.), or finding an hidden option or some simple command for python console, I don't believe there is any simple solution... maybe he should learn programming to write an add-on that lowercases everything before it goes to other processing... :)


-- Patrick
Le 12/03/2016 15:31, Gene a écrit :
That is for the pitch that is encountered when reading letter by letter
or when typing with echo character on. The problem the person is having
is that when a word has capital letters in the middle of the word, it is
not read as though it were a typical word. I have not seen any setting
that affects this and I don't know if it has anything to do with NVDA or
if it is the synthesizer itself that causes this behavior.
To illustrate, I capitalized the G and I in the word "original" that
immediately follows this message. When I do this, or is read then G I
is spoken as if it were a word, then the rest of the word is spoken.
This spelling of capital letters makes reading almost impossible because
words become unrecognizable or almost so.
This is completely unrelated to any settings I am aware of in NVDA.
This may be an NVDA behavior because I tried reading the word with three
different synthesizers and got similar results.
Gene


Re: Windows 10 and PDF files.

 

Marvin, Thank you so much. It works!
Nevzat

On 3/11/16, marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com> wrote:
This is Marv here. I have windows 10 also; you could download acrobat
reader dc; I find that works so far very well.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 3:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 and PDF files.

Hello everyone,
I upgraded to Windows 10 today with a little help from my daughter as
NVDA was not speaking during restarts.
The only problem I encountered so far is that my PDF files open in
Microsoft Edge and of course, NVDA can't read them. They appear as
blank documents. In Windows 7 this was not so.
How can I again open my PDF files so can I can read them?

One more question:
How can I go back to Windows 7 if I wanted to?
I would appreciate your inputs.
Nevzat Adil


--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
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Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Patrick Le Baudour
 

I tried with narrator, using the same sapi voice as in nvda nd it says the word without that 'problem'.
So it is nvda that does it. The thing is, in most cases, it is proper - mostly met, I guess, in programming and trademarks.
So apart from using narrator (i don't know what does jaws do, didn't wan't to restart my computer right now.), or finding an hidden option or some simple command for python console, I don't believe there is any simple solution... maybe he should learn programming to write an add-on that lowercases everything before it goes to other processing... :)


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Le 12/03/2016 15:31, Gene a écrit :
That is for the pitch that is encountered when reading letter by letter
or when typing with echo character on. The problem the person is having
is that when a word has capital letters in the middle of the word, it is
not read as though it were a typical word. I have not seen any setting
that affects this and I don't know if it has anything to do with NVDA or
if it is the synthesizer itself that causes this behavior.
To illustrate, I capitalized the G and I in the word "original" that
immediately follows this message. When I do this, or is read then G I
is spoken as if it were a word, then the rest of the word is spoken.
This spelling of capital letters makes reading almost impossible because
words become unrecognizable or almost so.
This is completely unrelated to any settings I am aware of in NVDA.
This may be an NVDA behavior because I tried reading the word with three
different synthesizers and got similar results.
Gene


Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Gene
 

That is for the pitch that is encountered when reading letter by letter or when typing with echo character on.  The problem the person is having is that when a word has capital letters in the middle of the word, it is not read as though it were a typical word.  I have not seen any setting that affects this and I don't know if it has anything to do with NVDA or if it is the synthesizer itself that causes this behavior. 
To illustrate, I capitalized the G and I in the word "original" that immediately follows this message.  When I do this, or is read then G I is spoken as if it were a word, then the rest of the word is spoken.  This spelling of capital letters makes reading almost impossible because words become unrecognizable or almost so. 
This is completely unrelated to any settings I am aware of in NVDA.
 
This may be an NVDA behavior because I tried reading the word with three different synthesizers and got similar results.
 
Gene
----- OriGInal Message -----

From: Aravind R
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

reduce capital change percentage to zero in voice settings and check.

On 3/12/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
> hi.
> i use espeak and i deactivated all options related to spelling.
> but i counter many problems when i read such emails and skype messages.
> i want to set to behave with capital letters like small letter.
> how can i do this?
>
> On 3/12/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
>> Hi Brian
>> Caps within words is used a lot in programming where it is known as
>> CamelCase, due to the humps.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>> nal Message-----
>> From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@...]
>> Sent: 12 March 2016 09:07
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
>>
>> Well they should not put caps in the middle of words. I'd imagine it
>> should
>> be possible to find some expression to enter into the dictionary of nvda
>> that applies to the synth to more or less stop this, though I have to say
>> I've never tried it as I don't seem to encounter many people putting caps
>> in
>> the middle of words.
>>  Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>> To: <nvda@groups.io>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:52 AM
>> Subject: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:
>>
>>
>>> hi every one.
>>> how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
>>> beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
>>> in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
>>> but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
>>> letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
>>> sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
>>> my skype messages and emails?
>>> what should i do to solve this problem?
>>> thanks and god bless you all.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
>>> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
>>> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
>>> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
>>> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
>>> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
>>> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
>>> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>> al-islam.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>
>


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Re: ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Aravind R
 

reduce capital change percentage to zero in voice settings and check.

On 3/12/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi.
i use espeak and i deactivated all options related to spelling.
but i counter many problems when i read such emails and skype messages.
i want to set to behave with capital letters like small letter.
how can i do this?

On 3/12/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Brian
Caps within words is used a lot in programming where it is known as
CamelCase, due to the humps.

Cheers
Chris
nal Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 12 March 2016 09:07
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:

Well they should not put caps in the middle of words. I'd imagine it
should
be possible to find some expression to enter into the dictionary of nvda
that applies to the synth to more or less stop this, though I have to say
I've never tried it as I don't seem to encounter many people putting caps
in
the middle of words.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] ergent, nvda is sensitive to capital letters:


hi every one.
how can set nvda not sensitive to capital letters?
beginning of words with capital letters does not cause a problem and
in most cases nvda reads the words properly.
but unfortunately when someone write the words with many capital
letters even in the middle and end of the words nvda reads the
sentences and in many cases leter by letter and i could not understand
my skype messages and emails?
what should i do to solve this problem?
thanks and god bless you all.


--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org









--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.