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Re: Accessible note taking apps

Sean
 

Submitted answers for writing plaintext / code / IDE.

So yes, the built-in Notepad can be used to take notes.
You may have created a good note-taking environment when you divide the topics into different folders.

But people don't take notes that way. And this is not a portable method.

You are reading an article on any website. You want to save the article somewhere. Perhaps there are sentences to underline.
Nothing on the web is likely to stay the way you first found it. Some contents die. And those contents can be very important.

This is why people use applications such as OneNote and Evernote.

You can tag notes in those applications, you can save websites content , and you can connect between notes...

These features are not what notepad supports.

And most of these apps also have a mobile app.
This way, people can take new notes, update, delete, etc., even while on the go.

If you know of such an application, please let me know.
If there is still no note-taking application available, I'll write it in Golang.
I can not believe this. Maybe I've tested 10 apps and none of them are compatible with screen readers. We are in the 21st century. It's so scary.

On 23/08/2020 17:31, Akash Kakkar wrote:
Bro, what about accessibility? are they reasonably accessible?

On 8/23/2020 6:35 PM, Hope Williamson wrote:
Hi, I use a service for saving links, which sounds like what your
wanting to do, so you can go back and read them whenever you need to
remember them. I use https://linklocker.co, but there are plenty of
other services like this out there, such as https://pinboard.in.

   These are web-based services, but they both work extremely well.
I've had success with using both of them at times.







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Re: Which video software for nvda

Jackie
 

Truthfully, I didn't get any warnings when I went to the page using
Firefox. However, sometimes a website can be compromised w/o an
author's knowledge. I did scan the site using Sucuri's sitecheck tool
& found no evidence for that. The site does contain both secure &
insecure (mixed) content, & http traffic is not redirected to https,
so perhaps this is what Malwarebytes is flagging. Looks to me as
though the site hasn't been updated in a veyry long time, which also
leaves open the possibility of a compromise w/o the creator's
knowledge, but, again, I don't see evidence of that.

On 8/23/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
False positives are not at all uncommon, though any time you get one
proceeding with caution is appropriate.

Your best course of action when you get what you believe may be a false
positive is to use the website virustotal.com to have the file or link
scanned.  It's not unusual at all for a couple of odd engines to come back
with false positives while the vast majority declare something clean.  If
you've got between 0 and 10 of about 80 engines saying something is
positive, they're probably giving false positives.  When something is really
malicious a virustotal scan will "light up like a Christmas tree" with
engines declaring an infection.

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Re: Which video software for nvda

Brian Vogel
 

False positives are not at all uncommon, though any time you get one proceeding with caution is appropriate.

Your best course of action when you get what you believe may be a false positive is to use the website virustotal.com to have the file or link scanned.  It's not unusual at all for a couple of odd engines to come back with false positives while the vast majority declare something clean.  If you've got between 0 and 10 of about 80 engines saying something is positive, they're probably giving false positives.  When something is really malicious a virustotal scan will "light up like a Christmas tree" with engines declaring an infection.

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Re: Which video software for nvda

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hi all.

Pontes Media is safe. A program don’t safe is, for example, Multi Extra, but the developer also created in 2016 an addon malicious for NVDA and this person is popular for this reason.

When I need download a video in audio format I use TCA Media Downloader. Is a program created by Peter Reina, in Python, but is only in Spanish, my native language. Is easy to use.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Ian Blackburn
Enviado: domingo, 23 de agosto de 2020 3:38
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda]Which video software for nvda

 

The program that blocked it was Malwarebytes

It doesn’t even give an option to go through to the website for that website

Sometimes Malwarebytes let you go through

On 23 Aug 2020, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

 

Hmmm its not a virus.

 

It uses versions of ffmpeg and youtube dl both of which are opensource components.

 

The program runs on oracle java as its engine.

 

Its got an innosetup installer and thats about it.

 

Then again I am not surprised.

 

Microsoft flags just about anything everything from ccleaner to cdex could be a problem for some obscure reason.

 

Heck even nvda became malware at one time.

 

Lets face it, security companies don't like the blind especially antivirus makers.

 

 

 

> On 23/08/2020 7:45 pm, Gene wrote:

> Since I haven't seen any reports of such unwanted programs or malware and it is a popular program, a false positive is the logical and by far the more probable explanation.

>

> Gene

> -----Original Message----- From: Hope Williamson

> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 12:28 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda]Which video software for nvda

>

> Pontes is a program specifically made for blind people, not saying that

> that exempts it from crapware, but it probably has a higher chance of

> not having any than any mainstream converter.

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Re: Accessible note taking apps

Akash Kakkar
 

Bro, what about accessibility? are they reasonably accessible?

On 8/23/2020 6:35 PM, Hope Williamson wrote:
Hi, I use a service for saving links, which sounds like what your
wanting to do, so you can go back and read them whenever you need to
remember them. I use https://linklocker.co, but there are plenty of
other services like this out there, such as https://pinboard.in.

   These are web-based services, but they both work extremely well.
I've had success with using both of them at times.
Re: Accessible note taking apps

Gerardo Corripio
 

Try Jart; it's free, and very accessible with NVDA.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 23 ago 2020, a la(s) 5:50 a.m., zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> escribió:

sorry for the incorrect link for accessibility of notetab with nvda.
here you are the correct one.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/636

On 8/23/20, zahra ayat <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
if you found a program which is accessible with nvda,
and be freeware and opensource program
and with support for unicode, please introduce me!
also, did you try notetab?
i believe its became accessible with nvda 2018.2
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8102
https://www.notetab.com

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@gmail.com> wrote:
These applications can be good for writing plaintext and code.
But bad options for note-taking.

On 23/08/2020 13:31, zahra wrote:
hello.
whats your idea about notepad plus plus?

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information
regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.

I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.

I am using windows 10.

Do you have any advice on this matter?

Features I expected:
* to be able to search through the notes I have taken
* export as html or txt

Stay healthy.


Sean

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bank site and edge

Gary Metzler
 
Edited

Hi All,

 

I am using win10 Ver 2004 Build Dot 450, nvda 2020.2, and the stable version of edge.  When I use nvda and go to my bank site I have to use f5 to get it to read the page.  When I use chrome jfw 2020 and narrator the page comes right up.  Is there any way to correct this with nvda?  Thanks for any help.

 

Regards, Gary KN4OX

Sendto: gmtravel@...

 
Re: Accessible note taking apps

Ian Blackburn
 

Brilliant this is a similar strategy to the way I did research for my masters thesis in 2012
I also had to convert huge numbers of PDF files imaged based are used a lot of tools including the strategies you discussed below regarding all the file management and notes management strategies
For a totally blind use a notepad on its own is one of the best tools
And example if you have a complex document in Word or webpage or something do you want to destroy all its formatting paste the information into notepad
That does it for you instantly
I’ve been doing this accessible document creation stuff for more than 20 or 30 years
Since about 1993
Regards Ian


On 23 Aug 2020, at 8:36 pm, David Griffith via groups.io <daj.griffith@...> wrote:



All through my PhD I pretty much used Windows Notepad  exclusively and, of course, for writing my actual Thesis Microsoft Word. Word/Excel was used for tables etc.

So my main research tool was notepad.

People may have different needs but as I am completely blind formatting was rarely an issue for me.

 

With Notepad I used the following procedure.

In Notepad Press F5 to automatically insert the date and time.

Then basically  type in any notes I needed.


Save it with a suitably clear filename in a pre-organised directory structure.

 

In the rare event I had loads of notes I would use *** as a virtual bookmarker  and simply use find to find the bookmark.

 

For Important websites I used the following procedure.

Again in Notepad press F5 to automatically store the date of website retrieval for reference purposes.

In your browser Alt D to jump to the address bar and then simply  control C to copy the address – alt tab to notepad and paste in the link.  Again  for accurate referencing purposes in your thesis.

Back to the browser I would then F6 back down to the web page and press select A and copy all the text of the web page to  the notepad file as well as a failsafe  in case the webpage goes offline etc.

In extremely rare circumstance if there were loads of headings / tables and navigation  was essential I simply save the web page for offline html reading.

As I say people’s needs may differ but I think the reading of content / analysis and then writing is probably more important than the tools used.

David G.

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sean
Sent: 23 August 2020 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible note taking apps

 

These applications can be good for writing plaintext and code.
But bad options for note-taking.

On 23/08/2020 13:31, zahra wrote:

hello.
whats your idea about notepad plus plus?
 
On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@...> wrote:
Hi,
 
I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.
 
I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.
 
I am using windows 10.
 
Do you have any advice on this matter?
 
Features I expected:
     * to be able to search through the notes I have taken
     * export as html or txt
 
Stay healthy.
 
 
    Sean
 
  * Email: seantolstoyevski@...
    <mailto:seantolstoyevski@...>
  * GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>
 
👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Accessible note taking apps

Hope Williamson
 

Hi, I use a service for saving links, which sounds like what your
wanting to do, so you can go back and read them whenever you need to
remember them. I use https://linklocker.co, but there are plenty of
other services like this out there, such as https://pinboard.in.

   These are web-based services, but they both work extremely well.
I've had success with using both of them at times.
Re: POWERPOINT

soloman s
 

Hi,
You may find this useful as I do found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20create%20a%20PowerPoint%20presentation%20with%20NVDA.html

Make presentation on Zoom using 'screensharing' feature. Do not forget
to use headset.

On 8/23/20, heaven.lists92@gmail.com <heaven.lists92@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear List



I recently saw a job opportunity on the internet which I would like to
apply
for. However, I need to do a powerPoint presentation as part of the
application.



Could someone give me tips on the following, please:



1. Creating and using PowerPoint presentations.



2. Sharing such a presentation on Zoom.



Thank you for your help and advice.



Kind regards



Heaven




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Re: Accessible note taking apps

David Griffith
 

All through my PhD I pretty much used Windows Notepad  exclusively and, of course, for writing my actual Thesis Microsoft Word. Word/Excel was used for tables etc.

So my main research tool was notepad.

People may have different needs but as I am completely blind formatting was rarely an issue for me.

 

With Notepad I used the following procedure.

In Notepad Press F5 to automatically insert the date and time.

Then basically  type in any notes I needed.


Save it with a suitably clear filename in a pre-organised directory structure.

 

In the rare event I had loads of notes I would use *** as a virtual bookmarker  and simply use find to find the bookmark.

 

For Important websites I used the following procedure.

Again in Notepad press F5 to automatically store the date of website retrieval for reference purposes.

In your browser Alt D to jump to the address bar and then simply  control C to copy the address – alt tab to notepad and paste in the link.  Again  for accurate referencing purposes in your thesis.

Back to the browser I would then F6 back down to the web page and press select A and copy all the text of the web page to  the notepad file as well as a failsafe  in case the webpage goes offline etc.

In extremely rare circumstance if there were loads of headings / tables and navigation  was essential I simply save the web page for offline html reading.

As I say people’s needs may differ but I think the reading of content / analysis and then writing is probably more important than the tools used.

David G.

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sean
Sent: 23 August 2020 11:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible note taking apps

 

These applications can be good for writing plaintext and code.
But bad options for note-taking.

On 23/08/2020 13:31, zahra wrote:

hello.
whats your idea about notepad plus plus?
 
On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@...> wrote:
Hi,
 
I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.
 
I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.
 
I am using windows 10.
 
Do you have any advice on this matter?
 
Features I expected:
     * to be able to search through the notes I have taken
     * export as html or txt
 
Stay healthy.
 
 
    Sean
 
  * Email: seantolstoyevski@...
    <mailto:seantolstoyevski@...>
  * GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>
 
👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Accessible note taking apps

zahra
 

sorry for the incorrect link for accessibility of notetab with nvda.
here you are the correct one.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/636

On 8/23/20, zahra ayat <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
if you found a program which is accessible with nvda,
and be freeware and opensource program
and with support for unicode, please introduce me!
also, did you try notetab?
i believe its became accessible with nvda 2018.2
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8102
https://www.notetab.com

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@gmail.com> wrote:
These applications can be good for writing plaintext and code.
But bad options for note-taking.

On 23/08/2020 13:31, zahra wrote:
hello.
whats your idea about notepad plus plus?

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information
regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.

I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.

I am using windows 10.

Do you have any advice on this matter?

Features I expected:
* to be able to search through the notes I have taken
* export as html or txt

Stay healthy.


Sean

* Email: seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com
<mailto:seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com>
* GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely
C++.




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<mailto:seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com>
* GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: Accessible note taking apps

zahra
 

if you found a program which is accessible with nvda,
and be freeware and opensource program
and with support for unicode, please introduce me!
also, did you try notetab?
i believe its became accessible with nvda 2018.2
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8102
https://www.notetab.com

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@gmail.com> wrote:
These applications can be good for writing plaintext and code.
But bad options for note-taking.

On 23/08/2020 13:31, zahra wrote:
hello.
whats your idea about notepad plus plus?

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information
regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.

I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.

I am using windows 10.

Do you have any advice on this matter?

Features I expected:
* to be able to search through the notes I have taken
* export as html or txt

Stay healthy.


Sean

* Email: seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com
<mailto:seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com>
* GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely
C++.




--


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<mailto:seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com>
* GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>

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--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: Accessible note taking apps

Sean
 

These applications can be good for writing plaintext and code.
But bad options for note-taking.

On 23/08/2020 13:31, zahra wrote:
hello.
whats your idea about notepad plus plus?

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@...> wrote:

Hi,

I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.

I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.

I am using windows 10.

Do you have any advice on this matter?

Features I expected:
     * to be able to search through the notes I have taken
     * export as html or txt

Stay healthy.


    Sean

  * Email: seantolstoyevski@...
    <mailto:seantolstoyevski@...>
  * GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.
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POWERPOINT

heaven.lists92@...
 

Dear List

 

I recently saw a job opportunity on the internet which I would like to apply for.  However, I need to do a powerPoint presentation as part of the application.

 

Could someone give me tips on the following, please:

 

1.            Creating and using PowerPoint presentations.

 

2.            Sharing such a presentation on Zoom.

 

Thank you for your help and advice.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven
Re: Accessible note taking apps

Richard Kuzma
 

I just use wordpad here for most of my notes

However, I deviced a heading thing.

What I do is put an asterisk at the beginning of the line for a heading to make it easy to search and move from topic to topic.

Hope this helps

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sean
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 6:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible note taking apps

 

Hi,

I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.

I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.

I am using windows 10.

Do you have any advice on this matter?

Features I expected:
    * to be able to search through the notes I have taken
    * export as html or txt

Stay healthy.

 

Sean

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.

Re: Accessible note taking apps

zahra
 

hello.
whats your idea about notepad plus plus?

On 8/23/20, Sean <s.tolstoyevski@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.

I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.

I am using windows 10.

Do you have any advice on this matter?

Features I expected:
    * to be able to search through the notes I have taken
    * export as html or txt

Stay healthy.


Sean

* Email: seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com
<mailto:seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com>
* GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Accessible note taking apps

Sean
 

Hi,

I research a lot of articles and I need to save this information regularly.
Some things I can forget over time.

I tried OneNote, Notes... and couldn't use it.

I am using windows 10.

Do you have any advice on this matter?

Features I expected:
    * to be able to search through the notes I have taken
    * export as html or txt

Stay healthy.


Sean

👨‍🦯 I’m programmer. I coding often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.

Re: Which video software for nvda

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Go for clipgrab.com

very accessible.

On 8/23/20, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@westnet.com.au> wrote:
The program that blocked it was Malwarebytes
It doesn’t even give an option to go through to the website for that
website
Sometimes Malwarebytes let you go through
On 23 Aug 2020, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm its not a virus.

It uses versions of ffmpeg and youtube dl both of which are opensource
components.

The program runs on oracle java as its engine.

Its got an innosetup installer and thats about it.

Then again I am not surprised.

Microsoft flags just about anything everything from ccleaner to cdex could
be a problem for some obscure reason.

Heck even nvda became malware at one time.

Lets face it, security companies don't like the blind especially antivirus
makers.



On 23/08/2020 7:45 pm, Gene wrote:
Since I haven't seen any reports of such unwanted programs or malware and
it is a popular program, a false positive is the logical and by far the
more probable explanation.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Hope Williamson
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 12:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]Which video software for nvda

Pontes is a program specifically made for blind people, not saying that
that exempts it from crapware, but it probably has a higher chance of
not having any than any mainstream converter.
Re: A call for testing to users of the OCR add-on

Lukasz Golonka
 

Hello,

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 02:34:42 -0600
"Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:

Is this suppose to what Jaws does for reading print from a scanner?

No, this add-on allows to recognize current navigator object with
Tesseract engine similar to what is possible with NVDA built-in OCR but
works regardless of Windows version.

--
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