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Joseph Lee's add-ons: version 20.09 to be released tonight (August 27), suspending add-on development for a while (again) #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Originally I planned to release version 20.09 of various add-ons next week. However in order to spend more time studying and to better process recent tragedies in United States and elsewhere (shootings, floods, COVID-19 updates), I’ll be releasing these updates tonight (August 27th to be exact). The new updates include:

  • Add-on Updater: effective with this update, there will be no more update checks for Image Describer add-on.
  • Control Usage Assistant: localization updates.
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures: coordinate announcement beep and temporary touch passthrough features are gone.
  • GoldWave: localization updates.
  • Object Location Tones: see an earlier message.
  • Resource Monitor: system uptime will be announced as x days, x hours, x minutes, x seconds.
  • StationPlaylist: mandatory update, start of next long-term support period (until April 2021), various changes for encoders support, table navigation commands are now available from places in Studio other than playlist viewer.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: the workaround in place for Version 20H2 is gone as Microsoft released a fix.

 

As always, these updates can be found via Add-on Updater and from community add-ons website.

Note: development snapshots for StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials will be suspended effective tonight until further notice.

 

Another reminder: we are indeed living in an unpredictable moment. I therefore urge you all to keep yourself and others safe and healthy. For people impacted by recent tragedies and short-term events to come, we are here for you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and Disqus

Hope Williamson
 

I was using Firefox at the time, I think. Most likely I didn't test it
on more than one browser, because that's the browser that particular 
Twitter account is logged into, and I was authorizing via Twitter. It
did post in the end, I just went back and looked at it. It just looked
like it didn't at the time.


Object Location Tones 20.09, penultimate add-on release #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Object Location Tones 20.09 will show up in about an hour or so from now. This version includes code edits based on Flake8 lint tool recommendations.

 

IMPORTANT: Object Location Tones add-on will be discontinued by end of 2020. As much as I wish to develop this add-on further, the time for this add-on’s usefulness has passed, and I would like to lighten my NVDA work in preparation for next stage in life. As the add-on is released under GNU General Public License, anyone is welcome to study, modify, and share their edits. The repo can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/objlocationtones

 

The last version of this add-on from me is planned for early next year (likely in January 2021).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and Disqus

Gene
 

Did you only try one browser? It wasn't with Disqus, but on a blog site, I wasn't able to post a reply using Chrome but with Firefox I was.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Hope Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Disqus

Disqus will make you register most of the time. It's gotten worse over
the years, the last time I tried to use it was a couple weeks ago and I
couldn't. As in the comment wouldn't post, after I was logged in.


Re: NVDA and Disqus

Hope Williamson
 

I can't remember where I was using it when I was having problems with
it. After I was all logged in, and the comment wouldn't post, I just
gave up. Oh wait, it was https://techwaifu.com/


Re: NVDA and Disqus

Hope Williamson
 

Disqus will make you register most of the time. It's gotten worse over
the years, the last time I tried to use it was a couple weeks ago and I
couldn't. As in the comment wouldn't post, after I was logged in.


Re: NVDA read-to-end

George McCoy
 

Let me say at the outset, I usually hybernate my computer when I'm through with it for the day. When I have this issue, running with add-ons disabled does not help.  I even completely uninstalled NvDA. by 'completely' I mean I also removed appData\roaming\nvda and all its subdirectories. When I reinstalled NvDA, the issue was not resolved.  I shut down the computer and rebooted several times. No joy. I chose 'restart' several times. No joy.  Then, one morning when I brought the system out of hybernation, everything worked properly.

I had trouble with read to end with Notetab ++, Thunderbird v 68, Firefox and Brave browsers.

I'll save the log next time it happens.


George

On 8/25/2020 11:47 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
FIrstly Leslie,

No, we haven't changed anything from our end, you should be able to press NVDA+A (Laptop keyboard layout) or NVDA+down arrow (desktop keyboard layout) to say all, in a document, a web page or an email.

Now as for what is happening, as Gene mentioned, a log would help, ideally at Debug level, and ideally with add-ons disabled (do you have any add-ons?)

Looking through our issues I found: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10852 about say all in Firefox or Wordpad which was resolved by the user running the COM registration fixing tool.  To do that, press NVDA+N, then press T for tools, then down arrow to "Run COM registration fixing tool" and press ENTER.

There are a handful of other closed issues which were either from using broken add-ons, or illegal ones, or other things which have been fixed and merged in NVDA 2019.3 and earlier.

One which is still open is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4119 which is an issue in Libre Office at least.  Last time I looked at this issue, the workaround I found which resolved it, was when you open a document in Libre Office, press CONTROL+END to jump to the very bottom of the document, then CONTROL+HOME to come back to the top, then say all should work.

I just tested and it looks like that issue is still present in Libre Office 6.3.0.4 using the latest NVDA alpha.  That isn't isn't in WordPad to my knowledge however.  As far as I know, that is caused by a bug in Libre Office and has pretty much always been there.

I just update to Libre Office 7.0.0 and it still behaves the same.

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:31 PM Leslie <soundsofmusic@...> wrote:

Unless I press NVDA plus A I can never read a full email.  This just started with the newest update.  If I want to skip down through a long message I need to press control plus down arrow.  If I don’t press those keys, I can’t keep moving through the email.  I thought something I did to my computer did this until someone else in the class I’m taking had the same problem and we both have NVDA.  Is this a bug or is this the way you want as a new NVDA. Thing?  I couldn’t find it in the commands.

 

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Re: Capslock as modifier

Gene
 

I just tested this and it beeps when speak typed characters is on or off. It does it when speak words is on or off as well, so the screen-reader could be silent and it would still beep.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier


It should still beep when typing a lowercase letter with caps lock on - so if you have double pressed the caps lock key and caps lock is on. If you then press SHIFT and type a letter (which will come out lowercase) NVDA will beep.

In NVDA'S speech settings there is an option "Beep for capitals". With that on whenever you arrow to a capital or type a capital letter, NVDA will beep, however it only does this when reading the letter, so it only reads when typing, if speak typed characters is enabled.

Quentin.


On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:


To add to my last note, although I have the box checked in the keyboard settings to let me know if capital keys are being typed when I want lower case, that’s not working. I’ve got it set to say words as I type them, so perhaps that is the problem? I really don’t need to hear each character.











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Re: NVDA stalling/crashing

Quentin Christensen
 

Do you have any other add-ons installed?  Note that when you uninstalled / reinstalled NVDA it doesn't delete the %appdata%\nvda folder, so any add-ons etc you had previously would still be there (and any problems caused by them)..  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "restart with add-ons disabled" it should ignore any add-ons when it restarts.

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 11:54 AM Justin Harford <jharford@...> wrote:



Hello everyone

I am dealing with a difficult situation. I just installed to the latest version of NVDA. This was an update from a much earlier version, as I delayed updating since there was not a compatible version of the dictation bridge at the time.

my vocalizer plug-in stopped working. I went to the tiflotechnia website to download the latest version of the plug-in, which after I installed it, said it was not compatible. I then completely removed the vocalizer plugging along with the synthesizers.

When I was trying to use the screen reader with e speak, it randomly would crash. I would go into fire fox, type in a search, the results would load and I would start trying to navigate through the headings and we get no response. I would press alt tab, and no response. 

I then uninstalled the screen reader bygoing into the settings, under applications, and clicking uninstall. I assume that activates the same uninstall file in the program files folder. At this point I was using narrator.

 I restarted the computer,  And ran the installer again. When the installation was complete, I was having the same issues. I am not past this point now. Whenever I try to run NVDA, It quickly goes silent after a simple task like bringing up the run dialogue and attempting to type something in. The speech becomes unresponsive, though I can still tab around the applications and open the start menu. 

Can somebody help?
Justin Harford (he/him/his)
program Coordinator (NCDE)
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
132 E Broadway Suite 343
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 ext 1014 (voice)
jharford@... (email)



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Training and Support Manager


Re: Capslock as modifier

Quentin Christensen
 

It should still beep when typing a lowercase letter with caps lock on - so if you have double pressed the caps lock key and caps lock is on.  If you then press SHIFT and type a letter (which will come out lowercase) NVDA will beep.

In NVDA'S speech settings there is an option "Beep for capitals".  With that on whenever you arrow to a capital or type a capital letter, NVDA will beep, however it only does this when reading the letter, so it only reads when typing, if speak typed characters is enabled.

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

To add to my last note, although I have the box checked in the keyboard settings to let me know if capital keys are being typed when I want lower case, that’s not working. I’ve got it set to say words as I type them, so perhaps that is the problem? I really don’t need to hear each character.



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Training and Support Manager


Re: Capslock as modifier

Jackie
 

I have mine set to words as well.

On 8/26/20, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:
To add to my last note, although I have the box checked in the keyboard
settings to let me know if capital keys are being typed when I want lower
case, that's not working. I've got it set to say words as I type them, so
perhaps that is the problem? I really don't need to hear each character.




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NVDA stalling/crashing

Justin Harford
 




Hello everyone

I am dealing with a difficult situation. I just installed to the latest version of NVDA. This was an update from a much earlier version, as I delayed updating since there was not a compatible version of the dictation bridge at the time.

my vocalizer plug-in stopped working. I went to the tiflotechnia website to download the latest version of the plug-in, which after I installed it, said it was not compatible. I then completely removed the vocalizer plugging along with the synthesizers.

When I was trying to use the screen reader with e speak, it randomly would crash. I would go into fire fox, type in a search, the results would load and I would start trying to navigate through the headings and we get no response. I would press alt tab, and no response. 

I then uninstalled the screen reader bygoing into the settings, under applications, and clicking uninstall. I assume that activates the same uninstall file in the program files folder. At this point I was using narrator.

 I restarted the computer,  And ran the installer again. When the installation was complete, I was having the same issues. I am not past this point now. Whenever I try to run NVDA, It quickly goes silent after a simple task like bringing up the run dialogue and attempting to type something in. The speech becomes unresponsive, though I can still tab around the applications and open the start menu. 

Can somebody help?
Justin Harford (he/him/his)
program Coordinator (NCDE)
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
132 E Broadway Suite 343
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 ext 1014 (voice)
jharford@... (email)


Re: NVDA and Disqus

 

Disqus is very widely used, so at this point since the comments/discussion bit has been identified, I will be curious if anyone else using any other site that also employs Disqus for its comments is encountering the same issue, and with onset at the same time, or not so.  That would help to further narrow the scope.
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Re: NVDA and Disqus

Gene
 

NVDA and DisqusI don't use the site. Do you need to register to leave comments? Aside from that, I can give you a work around. Write your comment in Notepad and then copy it to the clipboard. Paste it into gthe comment area. Unload and run NVDA again and make sure it is as you want it, then send it. I've seen some multiline edit fields on web sites that don't allow you to see what you've written properly or efficiently and that is the method I use in such cases.

I agree with Brian that the ;problem is likely a change on the web site. While possible that NVDA has become corrupted, it is unlikely, particularly since you don't complain about other edit fields and since problems with multiline edit fields are somewhat commohn..

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Disqus



Greetings,

Please help. About a week ago, when I try to make a comment on www.breitbart.com, NVDA goes silent and does not read my comment. When I restart NVDA, it then reads the comment but it does not speak the letter when I move the cursor thus I am unable to edit. The website in question uses Disqus. I have making comments on Breitbart.com for a long time. This is very new.

Thanks for any help.

Blessings

Pascal


Capslock as modifier

Janet Brandly
 

To add to my last note, although I have the box checked in the keyboard settings to let me know if capital keys are being typed when I want lower case, that’s not working. I’ve got it set to say words as I type them, so perhaps that is the problem? I really don’t need to hear each character.


Capslock as modifier

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

I seem to have solved my problem of having the capslock activated accidentally. I’m learning some new software so this is probably what happened. At least I know how to check its status now.

 

Janet


NVDA and Disqus

Pascal Lambert
 

Greetings,

Please help.  About a week ago, when I try to make a comment on www.breitbart.com, NVDA goes silent and does not read my comment.  When I restart NVDA, it then reads the comment but it does not speak the letter when I move the cursor thus I am unable to edit.  The website in question uses Disqus.  I have making comments on Breitbart.com for a long time.  This is very new.

Thanks for any help.

Blessings

Pascal


Re: Question about NVDA modes

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The following page might help you if you are coming from another screen reader.


it can be found at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/FAQ




By the way if you looking in the user guide about section  5 to 6 it should answer some of those other questions.

Gene nz


On 27/08/2020 10:35 am, Raja Dodia wrote:

Hello everyone. My name is Roman. I hope that everyone is safe. I am confused about NVDA's modes. How do I use the mode perfectly? What are the commands?

Respectfully, Roman.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Question about NVDA modes

Raja Dodia
 

Hello everyone. My name is Roman. I hope that everyone is safe. I am confused about NVDA's modes. How do I use the mode perfectly? What are the commands?

Respectfully, Roman.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Access regarding email with quotations and screen readers, NVDA, in this case

 

So, if I'm understanding correctly, successive uses of the Q command when viewing HTML (which is the type of e-mail presented with block quotes) this will take you to the start of the next block quote and, once you're in that block quote, the use of the comma command will jump you out of it to the new material that follows it?

That would be particularly handy, since the SHIFT+ commands for each of those things would allow ease of jumping back and forth between the two if you needed to jump back to check something.

Thanks to those who've been kind enough to respond.   If anyone knows of analogous commands in other screen readers, if they differ from what NVDA uses, would you please mention what those are.  Even though this is an NVDA group, knowledge of analogous commands across screen readers is always helpful, and requires only a quick mention of what those are if they're different (or just that they're the same).
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