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Re: Looking for a *very specific* method of captioning
I don't even think you would be able to do this, in any meaningful way, if you're talking about NVDA in continuous speech mode reading sentences. If I list were being read, where there was sufficient time to present and remove each word in caption, it could work. It's not going to work at any speech rate that approximates natural speech. You couldn't even consciously register individual words that would flash that briefly. It would be like the experiments decades ago on subliminal suggestion.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Looking for a *very specific* method of captioning
Jesse Farquharson
Hello folks. So, I'm looking to start something, and what I want to do is have the speech NVDA outputs captioned. I want it to overlay a video, but rather than traditional captions (remaining on screen until whatever is being spoken is finished), I want each word to appear on screen, then disappear, one by one, as they're spoken. I'm assuming this is pretty far out. I'm assuming no one will be able to advise me on something this safisticated, but I thought I'd try asking anyway. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
David Goldfield
>Where do I find this add-on?
You can find the
addon at the above link.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 9/1/2020 9:55 AM, Hettie wrote:
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
David Goldfield
What is odd is that this addon began working a bit more consistently when my installation of Thunderbird updated to V78.2.1. In fact, it was working so consistently that I thought that the issue was completely resolved, even though the release notes provided no obvious references to this type of problem. However, at some point the addon failed to work again. After going into Addon Options and looking at the addon's options it suddenly started working again even though I made no changes to any of the settings. I am at a loss to explain this and, as I wrote in a previous message in this thread, the developer of this addon cannot reproduce this issue.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 9/1/2020 12:03 PM, Hettie wrote:
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NVDA mouse tracking problem
Checkbox, radio button, and buttons on the web page are not sporting with the rabbit i using NVDA20.2 and win10 pro 2004 help me to all
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Robert Logue
Yes Gene. I did try turning report dynamic content changes off but it did not help.
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On 2020-09-01 11:41 a.m., Gene wrote:
The only thing I can think of that might possibly work is to turn report dynamic content changes off, though I'm just about sure it won't help to turn it off. But you can try. The toggle is NVDA key 5 on the main keyboard.
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Hope Williamson
I did find that. For me it was under the toolbar submenu. I tried to uncheck it and couldn't while I was inside the message window. It's already unchecked while I'm outside the message window.
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Hope Williamson
I'm also on 68.12.0. I won't update to 78 until it automatically puts me
there.
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Gene
In the view menu, is a submenu called Status Bars. Press enter on it and look through the items. You will find what you are looking for.
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On 9/1/2020 2:51 PM, Hope Williamson wrote:
For some reason I can't remember how to turn off status bars, nor do I
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Hope Williamson
For some reason I can't remember how to turn off status bars, nor do I
know where to go to turn them off in the message window. Can someone explain? Thanks!!
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Re: Work with audio editors in professional way with Nvda possible or not?
CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
I am agree with the use of Reaper. If you install Osara, you can use this very Good program. I am also use Audacity, and if you go to use Gold Wave, you can install the NVDA Add-on Gold Wave from Josef Lee. A developer have an addon no official for Audacity (Audacity Access Enhancement’s). Regards.
Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 NVDA certified expert 2019
De: Luke Davis
Certainly. I use Audacity for moderate projects, but the thing you should be looking into is Reaper.
Luke
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Re: VPN services accessible with NVDA using Google Chrome or Firefox under Windows 10
Stephen
I don't know about proton-VPN, but I would imagine it would.
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Re: VPN services accessible with NVDA using Google Chrome or Firefox under Windows 10
Stephen
IF you don't like express vpn's interface, you can use open-VPN with it instead.
There are some instructions on how to use it on express vpn's website.
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Ralf Kefferpuetz
There is no automatic update from 68 to 78 for thunderbird. That will be released in a few weeks. With other words there is currently no update process from 68 to 78 with keeping the 68 configuration.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Dienstag, 1. September 2020 19:24 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Well, then the folks at Tbird have the most bizarre release channel I've ever dealt with. I've been on release channel for years, with automatic updating, and if I go to the Help, About dialog (ALT+H,A), I watch the check being done and am told that Thunderbird is up to date. I am on 68.12.0 32-bit. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Gene
For awhile, version 78.x was available on the web site but that version wasn't distributed through the updater. I don't know why it was offered on the nonbeta part of the web site but not to the downloader. I even saw something somewhere on the mozilla site saying that that was the case so it wasn't an oversight. I don't know what the updater is offering now.
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From: Kostadin Kolev Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 12:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Extra verbosity in Thunderbird Hello Brian, Actually, the stable version 78 of Thunderbird has been released for a while now. I'm using it and in its "About" box it states that I'm on the "release" channel. I've updated it manually from v68 to v78 though. If I'm not mistaking, the automatic update will offer v78 when v78.2 is released, which happened recently. But I haven't heard from my friends that use Thunderbird that their version has updated to v78. That doesn't mean that it hasn't - it only means that they haven't told me yet if it did or not. Furthermore, when I now went to Thunderbird's website and clicked on the download link, the version offered there was 78.2.1. So, Thunderbird 78 stable has definitely been released to the public. ______ Best wishes, Kostadin Kolev На 1.9.2020 г. в 19:41, Brian Vogel написа: On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 06:40 PM, Governor staten wrote: I'm running Thunderbird 78.2.0, and have same issues.- And if this version number is correct, then you're not on the release update channel, which is at 68.12.0, but the beta channel, which can have a raft of issues that the release channel does not, or have fixed issues that the release channel still has. One can determine what channel they're on using ALT+H,A to bring up the About Thunderbird dialog. Right after the part where your version number is shown, and the status message regarding whether you're at the most recent update or have one pending, is a line that reads, "You are on the release update channel," where release will be "beta" instead if you're using the beta channel. This issue had definitely been resolved, at one point, and there is a topic on here that I'm sure will contain the keywords "Thunderbird verbosity" besides this one that cover the back and forth or resolve it. I filed issues on this one, and it isn't truly ancient history, at least not yet. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Gene
Good. then you don't have to experiment with my idea, which I was very skeptical would work.
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From: Robert Logue Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 11:19 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Extra verbosity in Thunderbird Hi Kostadin. Thanks for the info about status bars in different areas of Thunderbird. I just turned it off in the message reading window. This fixed my verbosity problem. I have not reported to Mozilla so far. Bob On 2020-08-31 1:26 p.m., Kostadin Kolev wrote: Hello all, I also have the status bar of Thunderbird showing in the program's main window and I don't observe the described behavior. But I'm reading messages from the main window of Thunderbird (via the message list and the message pane). Most screen reader users seam to read messages in a separate window. And we come to the main thing here - the option to show/hide the status bar in Thunderbird is independent for the separate Thunderbird windows like the main window, the optional separate window for message reading, the message composer window, etc. So, if you've disabled the status bar from within Thunderbird's main window, it will not affect its behavior for the message reading window and it will probably still be visible in it. And if you're reading messages from within that message reading window, this may be why you still hear those messages - the status bar is still shown for the message reading window. Mind you, this automatic speaking of status bar messages should not be happening even with the status bar shown It was fixed for the main window of Thunderbird, but not for the other windows like the ones for message reading and for composing a message. This should be reported to and fixed by the Thunderbird developers. Has anyone done that? If not, I may do it these days. The only place that I find this automatic speaking of status bar messages useful is in the a"Advanced Search" window, where thanks to those messages I know the status of the performed search, without needing to manually read the status bar. ______ Best wishes, Kostadin Kolev На 31.8.2020 г. в 22:07, Hope Williamson написа: Yeah I have the same issue. It's pretty annoying. Especially when it keeps saying downloading however many messages. I tried turning off the status bar thing, and it still does it.
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
Gene
The only thing I can think of that might possibly work is to turn report dynamic content changes off, though I'm just about sure it won't help to turn it off. But you can try. The toggle is NVDA key 5 on the main keyboard.
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Of course, you could downgrade to a version of the program that doesn't have the problem. You could get the portable version so you could leave your current installation undisturbed and update it to see if the problem is solved while continuing to use the portable version. I suspect that this may be an Aria live region but I am not aware that NVDA has a setting to turn reading of live regions off. It should. Gene
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From: Robert Logue Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 11:11 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Extra verbosity in Thunderbird I tried turning off everything I could find that might stop the extra speech in both Thunderbird and NVDA settings. I unchecked just about everything I thought was relevant including status bar. I tried using screen review mode to find the notification style text being spoken. No luck there. What other tools does NVDA have to control this kind of verbosity in programs? Bob On 2020-08-31 1:07 p.m., Hope Williamson wrote: Yeah I have the same issue. It's pretty annoying. Especially when it
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Re: VPN services accessible with NVDA using Google Chrome or Firefox under Windows 10
Dennis Clark
Hello, This is a VPN service I haven't read about. I will definitely take a look. Thanks Dennis
On 8/29/2020 7:27 PM, Socheat Muth
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Re: VPN services accessible with NVDA using Google Chrome or Firefox under Windows 10
Dennis Clark
Hello Stephen, This is very encouraging. Do you know if openVPN works with other VPN services such as protonVPN? I will take a look on the expressVPN website about using it with their service. Dennis
On 8/29/2020 5:33 PM, Stephen wrote:
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Re: Extra verbosity in Thunderbird
I'm going to force an update to Version 78 in a few moments after the download completes. As you say, when you go to the Thunderbird Download Page, it's downloading the installer for 78.2.1.
I will admit to being utterly incorrect about the latest version number, but have never experienced a "failure to update" like this in the past. Tbird has always nagged me when I fire it up when newer versions are available. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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