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Re: Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Gene
 

Maybe, but it may be too much work for a small change from a technical standpoint. Perhaps someone else who regularly works with the current code could very quickly and easily make the change.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Hi Gene,
Agreed, when I made that particular update (back in the good old Python
2 days!), I had a few other things in mind that I wanted to do with it,
including a setting to toggle the verbosity.
I guess that's as good an excuse as any to get my rusty old brain to at
least try and make friends with the Python 3 books and the rather hazy
and labyrinthic NVDA development documentation and see if I can get an
update released at some point.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 10/09/2020 09:40 am, Gene wrote:
I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.

I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default. Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused. There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying. When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech. Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out. It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.

Gene



Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Ali Colak
 

I've updated windows, and its fine so it was my earlier attempts that
had done it. Fortunately the restore fixed the issue.

On 9/9/20, Ali Colak via groups.io <alish54=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Has anyone gotten the latest windows updat, I'm not sure if that was
what originally caused the problem or my own actions. I had updated
earlier in the day and its asking me to update again, and I'm
wondering if I'll have the same problems.

On 9/9/20, Ali Colak via groups.io <alish54=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks everyone, The restore worked and everything is back to normal.

On 9/9/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Well for NVDA, if you press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with
add-ons disabled", that will do as the name suggests - at that point,
you
can try accessing links in Firefox again and if it works, you know it
was
one of your NVDA add-ons, and if it still doesn't work, it is something
else - either NVDA, Firefox, or something else on the PC interfering.
FWIW, I have seen issues with links not working with ENTER where they
work
with SHIFT+ENTER, but I haven't seen enter opening the context menu
before.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
wrote:

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a
simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall
and
re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than hours of research.



David G.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10



*From: *Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com>
*Sent: *09 September 2020 16:02
*To: *nvda@groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.



Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.





Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.



Any ideas?








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;








Re: Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Damien Garwood
 

Hi Gene,
Agreed, when I made that particular update (back in the good old Python 2 days!), I had a few other things in mind that I wanted to do with it, including a setting to toggle the verbosity.
I guess that's as good an excuse as any to get my rusty old brain to at least try and make friends with the Python 3 books and the rather hazy and labyrinthic NVDA development documentation and see if I can get an update released at some point.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 10/09/2020 09:40 am, Gene wrote:
I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.
I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default.  Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused.  There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying.  When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech. Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out.  It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.
Gene


Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Gene
 

I just checked this. NVDA is set not to announce quick navigation keys when in browse mode. I tried many, h for move by heading, b for button, x for check box and r for radio button. None were spoken.

However, in the case of the person with the problem, since turning off speak typed carachters stopped the lag, it raises the question as to whether in her case, something is being generated that shouldn't be. I would think a log would be important.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation



Hi

With “Speak Typed Characters” set to on NVDA has to announce the letter pressed first then the name of the object to which

focus has moved and the delay between the 2 announcements is understandable as it makes them distinct. The delay between the 2 announcements is arguably a little longer than necessary but as to whether this could be shortened programmatically or even made dynamically adjustable is something only the developers would know.



Cheers

Chris





From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: 10 September 2020 03:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation





I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I

was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation,

where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear

the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an

unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation

on the desktop, the response was immediate.


Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Chris Mullins
 

                Hi

With “Speak Typed Characters” set to on NVDA has to announce the letter pressed first then the name of the object to which

focus has moved and the delay between the 2 announcements is understandable as it makes them distinct.  The delay between the 2 announcements is arguably a little longer than necessary but as to whether this could be shortened programmatically or even made dynamically adjustable is something only the developers would know. 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: 10 September 2020 03:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

 

I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I

was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation,

where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear

the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an

unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation

on the desktop, the response was immediate.

 

 

 

 


Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Gene
 

I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.

I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default. Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused. There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying. When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech. Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out. It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.

Gene


Re: Entering time values on youtube website

Gene
 

But mentioned under what conditions? By a screen-reader? By a news broadcast, by something else? I heard about an advertising campaign where a commercial had a word that would cause a certain digital assistance to do something, but I don't recall what now. But I'm asking about screen-reader speech specifically. It may not be necessary to worry about that as a trigger. The speech may be different enough from human speech that assistants don't recognize it.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

I have had my alexa speaker trigger when alexa is mentioned but I always
have the microphone off when not using directly.

In fact when I am sure that I am not going to use my new dot, due to all
the spying and stuff that is rumored, I actually unplug the echo dot
from the wall.

I have a bad habbit of talking to myself, especially at night, and
especially during my sleep.

I find it good to keep my echo unplugged.

My only gripe is that some payed skill content is not available in new
zealand.



On 10/09/2020 7:43 pm, Gene wrote:
Has anyone had any digital assistant triggered by having a screen-reader say its name? I don't recall seeing any messages on the lists I follow about this. And I have a friend with an Echo who, at times when we talk and say the name of the assistant has it try to do something or say she can't find something, but only when she says the name. We did an experiment and when I, on her speaker phone, say the name, there is no response.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website



It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:




Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website







You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:



Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!

















Re: Entering time values on youtube website

 

I have had my alexa speaker trigger when alexa is mentioned but I always have the microphone off when not using directly.

In fact when I am sure that I am not going to use my new dot, due to all the spying and stuff that is rumored, I actually unplug the echo dot from the wall.

I have a bad habbit of talking to myself, especially at night, and especially during my sleep.

I find it good to keep my echo unplugged.

My only gripe is that some payed skill content is not available in new zealand.

On 10/09/2020 7:43 pm, Gene wrote:
Has anyone had any digital assistant triggered by having a screen-reader say its name?  I don't recall seeing any messages on the lists I follow about this.  And I have a friend with an Echo who, at times when we talk and say the name of the assistant has it try to do something or say she can't find something, but only when she says the name.  We did an experiment and when I, on her speaker phone, say the name, there is no response.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website



It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:




Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website







You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:



Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!
















Re: Entering time values on youtube website

Gene
 

Has anyone had any digital assistant triggered by having a screen-reader say its name? I don't recall seeing any messages on the lists I follow about this. And I have a friend with an Echo who, at times when we talk and say the name of the assistant has it try to do something or say she can't find something, but only when she says the name. We did an experiment and when I, on her speaker phone, say the name, there is no response.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website



It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:




Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website







You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:



Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!


Re: Entering time values on youtube website

Sarah k Alawami
 

It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:

Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

 

You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:

Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!

 

 


Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Ali Colak
 

Has anyone gotten the latest windows updat, I'm not sure if that was
what originally caused the problem or my own actions. I had updated
earlier in the day and its asking me to update again, and I'm
wondering if I'll have the same problems.

On 9/9/20, Ali Colak via groups.io <alish54=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks everyone, The restore worked and everything is back to normal.

On 9/9/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Well for NVDA, if you press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with
add-ons disabled", that will do as the name suggests - at that point, you
can try accessing links in Firefox again and if it works, you know it was
one of your NVDA add-ons, and if it still doesn't work, it is something
else - either NVDA, Firefox, or something else on the PC interfering.
FWIW, I have seen issues with links not working with ENTER where they
work
with SHIFT+ENTER, but I haven't seen enter opening the context menu
before.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
wrote:

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a
simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall
and
re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than hours of research.



David G.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10



*From: *Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com>
*Sent: *09 September 2020 16:02
*To: *nvda@groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.



Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.





Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.



Any ideas?








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;






Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Ali Colak
 

Hi,
Thanks everyone, The restore worked and everything is back to normal.

On 9/9/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Well for NVDA, if you press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with
add-ons disabled", that will do as the name suggests - at that point, you
can try accessing links in Firefox again and if it works, you know it was
one of your NVDA add-ons, and if it still doesn't work, it is something
else - either NVDA, Firefox, or something else on the PC interfering.
FWIW, I have seen issues with links not working with ENTER where they work
with SHIFT+ENTER, but I haven't seen enter opening the context menu before.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
wrote:

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a
simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall and
re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than hours of research.



David G.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10



*From: *Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com>
*Sent: *09 September 2020 16:02
*To: *nvda@groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.



Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.





Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.



Any ideas?








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Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letter navigation

Quentin Christensen
 

I don't recall the original issue (it's good to post updates like this as a reply to the earlier thread so people can follow back what has previously happened).  in any case, a couple of questions:

- What browser(s) and version(s) are you using?
- What NVDA add-ons are you using?

If you press NVDA+Q, down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER, does single letter navigation (with speak typed characters on) still lag?

I just tried it here both with NVDA 2020.2 and NVDA alpha-20876,213a3c2d and I'm not getting any lag navigating in either Chrome or Firefox.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:20 PM Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@...> wrote:
I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I
was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation,
where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear
the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an
unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation
on the desktop, the response was immediate.






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Training and Support Manager


Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letter navigation

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation, where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation on the desktop, the response was immediate.


Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Quentin Christensen
 

Well for NVDA, if you press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled", that will do as the name suggests - at that point, you can try accessing links in Firefox again and if it works, you know it was one of your NVDA add-ons, and if it still doesn't work, it is something else - either NVDA, Firefox, or something else on the PC interfering.  FWIW, I have seen issues with links not working with ENTER where they work with SHIFT+ENTER, but I haven't seen enter opening the context menu before.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall and re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than  hours of research.

 

David G.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ali Colak
Sent: 09 September 2020 16:02
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.

 

   Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.

 

 

Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

David Griffith
 

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall and re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than  hours of research.

 

David G.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ali Colak
Sent: 09 September 2020 16:02
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.

 

   Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.

 

 

Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

 


Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Quentin Christensen
 

Do you have any add-ons?  Trying with NVDA 2020.2 and with NVDA alpha-20851,f33664ec on Firefox 80.0.1 (64-bit), enter works as expected on the Google search results page for me.  


On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:02 AM Ali Colak <alish54@...> wrote:
   Hello everyone,
To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the
latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search
results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the
context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,
but regular enter does not on some pages.


Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse
settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had
been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I
reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've
tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA
using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the
problem.

Any ideas?





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Entering time values on youtube website

JM Casey
 

Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

 

You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

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On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:

Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!

 

 


Re: Entering time values on youtube website

JM Casey
 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

 

Please try this:

 

Youtube - How to link to a start time:

Add to the end of the URL:

Shortened URL's:

?t=0m20s

Full URL's:

&t=0m20s

 

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 5:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

 

You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:

Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!

 

 


Re: In-Process for 7th September is out

Gene
 

I figured out the problem. The instructions and layout of the web page don't make this at all clear. I found and installed the latest main adde-on and then a voice and it worked.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

You might have an older version of this addon? do You want me to post a
link for You to get the latest version?OK the page is her below this text.

https://github.com/Olga-Yakovleva/RHVoice/wiki/Latest-version e

On 09/09/2020 20:49, Gene wrote:
I don't know what determines when the add-on works. It doesn't work on my Windows 64 bit machine and I've seen a few other reports of it not working, but I don't know if there is a pattern.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

the Nvda addon does not do this it is very responsive and for me just
works. I use it on windows and android.

On 08/09/2020 22:39, Gene wrote:
There is a SAPI 5 version of the voice. I played with it this afternoon. I don't have Windows 10 so I can't compare it to the Windows 10 voices, whose name I don't recall now.

The voice I tried was alright, better than many free voices I've tried, but not nearly as good as Dectalk and Eloquence. Still, it may be that some people might want to use it.

However, and I'd have to play a lot more with this to determine if it was a fluke or an ongoing problem, it appeared to slow down my computer to have the SAPI 5 voice installed. Programs took longer to open. As I said, to determine if that was just how things were for some other reason for the time I have the voice on my machine, which was only a short time, or whether it was caused by the SAPI 5 version would require more testing. When I removed the version, things returned to normal.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

Will the RH voice work on windows 10?



On 9/8/2020 12:59 PM, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:
Rh voice would be nice I will get the page later if you need it or maybe someone else will b beet me to it.

On 08/09/2020 02:15, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I think that's a great idea. If more people spoke up about their favorite voices, we could get them added to NVDA.



On 9/7/2020 10:27 AM, Leslie wrote:

Hay, maybe if we can hear from a large number of people who like these voices, maybe we can get them added to NVDA. As nonpremium voices. We know they are always improving.

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*From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Monday, September 7, 2020 9:49 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

I'd also like to see the cortana voice added to NVDA without charge. I really like how she sounds. My favorite voice in the one-core voices is thefemale voice called Zera. She sounds very clear.

On 9/7/2020 9:04 AM, Leslie wrote:

As I’ve said before, I just love NVDA. And it has all the features
I need being an average computer user. I do think that NVDA.
Should add more of the truly great voices that are out there. I
love the 1 core voices and I also love Nuance. I think that
Cortana voice is one of the best. I’d like to see her added to
NVDA. Without charge. I think the original voices that NVDA. Had
are now pasee and should be droped because their quality isn’t
good anymore. What do you guys think?

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*From: *Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Monday, September 7, 2020 12:37 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

Hmph, if you are happy to pay a load of cash for each version
update from freedomscientiffic or visparo etc thats your issue,
have issues with licences, need scripts for just about everything
like win98 needs drivers, are happy with the possible bad
technical support issues going about and are happy that if it
screws up you need to repair, reinstall or reformat if it totally
goes nuts, not to mention that visparo like suing everyone under
the sun well more than I'd like, go ahead.

When I used their stuff it was ok, but yeah, I never really had
that many problems with it.

Never got into the payed script racket, either.

I had to repair it once or twice, but that was before it became a
beast.

Compaired to nvda well who knows.

The information bandied round the list pluss a few other user
experiences not my own pluss the fact that due to jaws and issues
causing me to have to reformat to make them completely quit, but
mostly information on here pluss what I hear from time to time,
especially with how they got all the competing companies bar
dolphin and that probably because they only just moved out of
using internet explorer puts the impression on me that like
microsoft used to be and may still be that this is a monopoly I
would really like to see the back of.

I certainly am happy I no longer use their software, and unless I
got a job which is what jaws is bandied about by various
governments and stuff, I wouldn't touch it unless I had the cash.

To be hhonest this goes for dolphin stuff which is why I got in
the beta program but that was for a completely selfish reason that
being smuglers, its about all I care about now days.

To be honest, I don't much care for a company who is clearly
running a business for the charity, government and enterprise
market with prices to high for average users to buy, and needing
expensive upgrades and modules for remote access with specialised
blindy bits and bobs.

Nvda and things like narator have opened me to the mainstream, and
with mainstream devices like the amazon echo devices and smart
phones about, when the new normal comes along, I think some of
these things will fall away sharply.

Dolphin seems to recognise this, so does avast.

So does nvaccess which is why I use them for most of my stuff.

Now there are a few things nvda does not do, but everything has
its limits.

But if you plan to use a wordprocesser, a desktop app, a web
brouser or email client or any office app or app using standard
controls or terminals then you don't need jaws for that.

Now some of the mega custom apps and the like specialised
programs, will need specialised software, and yeah, jaws is what
you need and will always need.

Thats not nvda's job.

The job of nvda is to handle all the normal business and home
applications that use standard controls, and the like as well as
web interfaces.

To be honest that is what may happen, specialised software will
need specialised software, and will be charged accordingly.

The only reason I'd get jaws is leasy thats about the only reason
I'd buy jaws now.

And to be honest if leasy would just sell its games module then
I'd just buy that.

On 7/09/2020 12:55 pm, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Here’s hoping it would make the Microsoft Flight simulator
2020 program more accessible.

Unlike it’s predecessor FSX, FS 2020 is not accessible for we
who need to see with our ears.

Even though, all throughout the newsletters and you tube
tutorials, it does have accessibility if your sighted.

This in short isn’t fair.

So, here’s hoping the newer upgrade to NVDA is more accessible
for we blind flight simmer pilots.

Even though, in my opinion, JAWS is a much better program.

Just my opinion.

Ron Ham Radio and Emergency Communication Station KR3DOG

*From:* Quentin Christensen

*Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2020 19:57

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:* [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out

In-process is out, this week with news on the upcoming
NVDACon, a new accessible graphs project, a space-themed
accessible RPG and some general tips on making software
accessible:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-7th-september-2020/
<https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-7th-september-2020/>;

Regards

Quentin.

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