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Thunderbird quick key folder navigation addon

Don H
 

What is the latest version of thunderbird that still works with the quick key folder navigation addon?


Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

 

Well luke, the issue with a vm, especially a dos one is more physical than not.

1.  yes you can.

You would get as much responce out of dos as you would a basic linux terminal.

But here is the thing.

You don't have a physical serial port or a synth.

Assuming you had both of those, yes you could.

However unless you had something like a soundblaster card or something and its drivers you couldn't really handle sound.

Lets face it, modern pc speakers are utter crap.

There is no need  for a pc speaker if everything is via sound.

Sound cards may have speakers.

I know on some systems they only have emulated pc speakers within the sound chip.

There are systems I have used that don't have a pc speaker at all.

Most if not all systems may have one but you will never hear it unless its got an issue.

But in theory and if you had the right equipment you could.

But most don't have serial synths or the ports to run them so it won't work.


The closest would be some sort of os like linux that handled all this stuff.

On 14/09/2020 8:31 pm, Luke Davis wrote:
As Shaun Everiss pointed out, you could try DOSEmu for this.
I would probably spin up an EC2 instance, or something at one of the cheap Linode alternatives, install DOSEmu, and see what you could make work.

It's been 10-15 years since I used DOSEmu, but when I did I remember it being pretty good.

The other option I considered for this, would be to install a DOS based virtual machine in Virtualbox or something.  I don't know for sure if you can do that, but it might be possible to run a 16 bit OS there.
There were remote access protocols for DOS, that would allow you to use it over a serial port. You could probably use it with a terminal emulator over a virtual comm port.

I'm not sure how responsive NVDA might be in that scenario, but I'll be interested in your results for historical reasons.

I recently had occasion to try to run SSHDOS (SSH for DOS) under Win 10 to support a customer who still uses DOS and SSH, but I could not for the same reasons discussed earlier here.

Luke

Luke  Robinett wrote:

Hi Joseph. Right. The DOS box consul is not a text based Consol. It supports DOS applications that run in both text and graphics modes so when it displays
text, it’s actually displaying a graphical representation of text. this is why in my first post I was wondering if an NVDA add-on could be created in python
that would work something like the following:
1. Monitor the dos box Consol for any changes
2. Anytime a change is detected, apply OCR to convert the consul output to text
3. Compare this OCR snapshot to the previous and announce to NVDA whatever changed, such as the display scrolling, a value on the screen changing, etc.
I am brushing up on my python as we speak and I have identified some library’s that deal with taking a screen capture of the active application as well as
OCR. I’m not sure if this exceeds the limitations of what NVDA add-ons are capable of but I figure it’s worth a shot. Plus, it gives me a good project to
learn python, if nothing else.


Re: It is a pity that NVDA does not support browse mode in OneNote for UWP

 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:17 AM, rowen brian wrote:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8850
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And I don't see an additional comment from you on that issue.  That's how priorities get set, at least partially.  The developers don't base what they're working on from what happens to get mentioned here, but through a process that prioritizes the issues on GitHub.  And much like any issue tracking system, the more separate people that "pile on" to an existing open issue to note that they have it, too, and would like to see a solution, the more likely it is to get bumped up in the priority list.
 
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Re: accessible SIP client

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I use MicroSIP, it is accessible.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: 04 September 2020 05:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible SIP client

The company I'm starting with uses a program called Zoiper. It's what I
would call marginally usable, meaning NVDA sometimes can't find where it's
supposed to be and clicks the wrong thing.
Would like to know of a recommendation for an accessible SIP
client/softphone I could switch to, if the company gives me permission to,
that is. Thanks.


Re: Work with audio editors in professional way with Nvda possible or not?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I personally would use Reaper. It is much more accessible, unless you want to stay in single track land. Take a look at http://www.reaperaccessibility.com.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pavel Vlcek
Sent: 01 September 2020 12:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Work with audio editors in professional way with Nvda possible or not?

Hi all,

my name is Pavel I am from Czech Republic. I am owner of little recording studio for disabled people, including visually impaired etc. I also have a small group of members. We used Mac Os for 8 years, but the life of the computer ended. At this time, we don't have money to buy professional Mac, which will work with Logic Pro X and Komplete Kontrol etc. So at this time, we and especially I, because I am main sound master need to use my older HP Z-book 17,3 the first generation with Win
10 and Nvda. Software, which can I use is Soundforge, Goldwave and Audacity. So, can computer with Nvda and Win 10 be used for professional audio work or not?

Thanks,

Pavel


Re: I'm looking for programs for virtual audio cable and microphone boosting

Luke Davis
 

There is an add-on for the actual Virtual Audio Cable program.
The author hasn't put it on the community site for some reason, but you can get it here: https://www.dlee.org/vac/NVDA/

Luke

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

I'm looking for two somewhat related to each other programs for Windows 10.
One of them is a virtual audio cable program. I want to be able to record sound from specific programs only a game, a virtual machine in VMWare Player,
etc., and not from the whole system as happens if I record via "Stereo Mix".


I'm looking for programs for virtual audio cable and microphone boosting

 

Hello all,

I'm looking for two somewhat related to each other programs for Windows 10.

One of them is a virtual audio cable program. I want to be able to record sound from specific programs only a game, a virtual machine in VMWare Player, etc., and not from the whole system as happens if I record via "Stereo Mix".

The other one is a program that will let me modify my microphone's volume level and audio quality. My headset's microphone has a good noise cancellation function, but its volume level is lower than I would like it to be (and in its properties in Windows there is no "Boost" setting to increase its volume level in decibels.

Both programs should be accessible to use with NVDA and preferably free as well.

Can someone recommend me such programs?

Thanks in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

Luke Davis
 

As Shaun Everiss pointed out, you could try DOSEmu for this.
I would probably spin up an EC2 instance, or something at one of the cheap Linode alternatives, install DOSEmu, and see what you could make work.

It's been 10-15 years since I used DOSEmu, but when I did I remember it being pretty good.

The other option I considered for this, would be to install a DOS based virtual machine in Virtualbox or something. I don't know for sure if you can do that, but it might be possible to run a 16 bit OS there.
There were remote access protocols for DOS, that would allow you to use it over a serial port. You could probably use it with a terminal emulator over a virtual comm port.

I'm not sure how responsive NVDA might be in that scenario, but I'll be interested in your results for historical reasons.

I recently had occasion to try to run SSHDOS (SSH for DOS) under Win 10 to support a customer who still uses DOS and SSH, but I could not for the same reasons discussed earlier here.

Luke

Luke Robinett wrote:

Hi Joseph. Right. The DOS box consul is not a text based Consol. It supports DOS applications that run in both text and graphics modes so when it displays
text, it’s actually displaying a graphical representation of text. this is why in my first post I was wondering if an NVDA add-on could be created in python
that would work something like the following:
1. Monitor the dos box Consol for any changes
2. Anytime a change is detected, apply OCR to convert the consul output to text
3. Compare this OCR snapshot to the previous and announce to NVDA whatever changed, such as the display scrolling, a value on the screen changing, etc.
I am brushing up on my python as we speak and I have identified some library’s that deal with taking a screen capture of the active application as well as
OCR. I’m not sure if this exceeds the limitations of what NVDA add-ons are capable of but I figure it’s worth a shot. Plus, it gives me a good project to
learn python, if nothing else.


It is a pity that NVDA does not support browse mode in OneNote for UWP

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

I want to use OneNote to take notes, but NVDA can't use the browse mode in it, which troubles me very much. There are other people on Github who are similar to my situation. I hope the developers can fix this error.

Issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8850


Re: Long-standing NVDA bug with visual studio still unresolved

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

Yes, too much useless information is almost unbearable, hope to fix it.


Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Josh,

That Talking DOS Box package sounds great, but did you get it working at all? I got the software installed with the Com emulator for com 0 and I even got speech. But whenever I tried running the games, the system hung.


On 9/13/2020 3:14 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
the best screen reader to use with talking dosbox is ASAP, with NVDA set up as a braille n speak synthesizer, after you set up com0com. all directions are on the batsupport talking dosbox website. Microtalk's ASAP that comes with the talking dosbox win3.1 keynote keysoft.zip will give you the best screen reader experience. Also in the talking dosbox win3.1 keynote keysoft.zip file are all the dos Jim Kitchen's games and a lot of other games, and a demo of mega-dots braille translator, wordperfect 5.1, lotus1-2-3 for dos, and much more. and you also get windows 3.1 with a window-eyes demo, keysoft and keynote gold demo, and text assist which sounds exactly like the old decTalk tts. oh and speaking of decTalk, fonix INC never emails me back about using decTalk as an NVDA addon. so it seems like they just don't care. so this is just me, but personally I am going to use the python3 decTalk addon just for my own personal use sometimes. But I still really like the codeFactory eloquence and vocalizer addon, and the codeFactory sapi5 text to speech that I bought, eloquence and vocalizer. 

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Re: Vocalizer trial

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Samuel,

There are two companies who sell Vocalizer:

Tiflotecnia sell Vocalizer which you can download from: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads (I'm pretty sure you can just install that, and if you don't have a license, it goes into trial mode).  You might need to check with them if that is the latest version, or the earlier one which only works up to NVDA 2019.2.1 (I've CC'd Rui Fontes at Tiflotecnia who can help here also).

Code Factory also sell a bundle which includes both Vocalizer and Eloquence: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/  I believe their download works in much the same way (it goes into demo mode if you don't have a license code).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:33 AM Samuel Villa <sjv89550@...> wrote:

Good afternoon,

I was wondering how I can obtain a trial of Vocalizer for NVDA. If any developers of the project could help me out with this issue, that would be great. Thank you.



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Re: Running production build and alpha build concurrently?

Quentin Christensen
 

Glad you got it working :)

Another option, if you only want to try one thing out quickly and won't use that alpha build again, instead of creating a portable version, from that launcher screen which comes up when you start it (with the license, and the options to install or create portable copy) there is an option called "Continue" - that keeps the temporary copy of NVDA running which starts when this launcher starts - you can try what you need to try, and just be aware that this version won't save any changes to its configuration etc.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:05 AM <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
Thanks Gene. Yeah, I ended up installing the alpha build as a portable copy
as not to interfere with the main install and that seemed to work fine.
Thanks for the reply. :)


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running production build and alpha build concurrently?

You can't have more than one copy installed but you can have an installed
copy and a portable version on the same machine.  You can have as many
portable versions as you want and no installed version if you wish.

The portable versions can't do certtain things, and those limitations apply
mostly to Windows 10.  But you may be able to check whatever you intend to
with the portable version.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: blindgroupsluke@...
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running production build and alpha build concurrently?



I have the latest production version of NVDA installed on my machine but
need to install an alpha build to troubleshoot an issue. If I install an
alpha build, will it replace my normal install or will I be able to have
both versions installed at the same time and choose which I want to run?



Thanks,

Luke














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Re: FileZilla brings NVDA to a grinding halt

Quentin Christensen
 

Would it be possible to get an NVDA log from when this occurs please?

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - Use Filezilla.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.og (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.


On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:36 AM Jesse Farquharson <jesse100rules@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I have been trying to do some large folder transfers from FileZilla to my new machine. I noticed this on the old one, but chopped it up to the laughable specs on it. This new machine however is a complete monster, and while I'm trying to do a FileZilla transfer of 20000+ audio files, NVDA grinds to a complete stop. If I try and move around the FileZilla window, I often have to restart NVDA. Can anyone comment on this?

Thanks.



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Re: PDF files with MS Edge

Oriana
 

Glad to hear it.


On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 6:13 PM George McCoy <slr1bpz@...> wrote:

Thanks Oriana. I was asking for an acquaintance who isn't on this list.  I just found out this afternoon that he was running nvda 2019.2 with windows 10 2004. We updated nvda to 2020.2 and the problem went away.


George

On 9/13/2020 2:38 PM, Oriana wrote:
George, is it all pdfs for you, or just certain files? Could be a glitch in the file itself causing the crash, some sort of unsafe embedded content or improperly implemented DRM, etc. 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 2:28 PM George McCoy <slr1bpz@...> wrote:
Thank you, Rui.

On 9/9/2020 3:00 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
> No problem here... and Edge is the app set to open PDF...
>
>
> Rui Fontes
>
>
> Às 20:04 de 09/09/2020, George McCoy escreveu:
>> Is anyone having trouble reading PDF files with MS Edge under windows
>> 2004? These are not image files. They read well under windows 1909.
>>
>> Edge freezes and forces user into a bower button forced shutdown.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Re: PDF files with MS Edge

George McCoy
 

Thanks Oriana. I was asking for an acquaintance who isn't on this list.  I just found out this afternoon that he was running nvda 2019.2 with windows 10 2004. We updated nvda to 2020.2 and the problem went away.


George

On 9/13/2020 2:38 PM, Oriana wrote:
George, is it all pdfs for you, or just certain files? Could be a glitch in the file itself causing the crash, some sort of unsafe embedded content or improperly implemented DRM, etc. 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 2:28 PM George McCoy <slr1bpz@...> wrote:
Thank you, Rui.

On 9/9/2020 3:00 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
> No problem here... and Edge is the app set to open PDF...
>
>
> Rui Fontes
>
>
> Às 20:04 de 09/09/2020, George McCoy escreveu:
>> Is anyone having trouble reading PDF files with MS Edge under windows
>> 2004? These are not image files. They read well under windows 1909.
>>
>> Edge freezes and forces user into a bower button forced shutdown.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Re: PDF files with MS Edge

Oriana
 

George, is it all pdfs for you, or just certain files? Could be a glitch in the file itself causing the crash, some sort of unsafe embedded content or improperly implemented DRM, etc. 


On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 2:28 PM George McCoy <slr1bpz@...> wrote:
Thank you, Rui.

On 9/9/2020 3:00 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
> No problem here... and Edge is the app set to open PDF...
>
>
> Rui Fontes
>
>
> Às 20:04 de 09/09/2020, George McCoy escreveu:
>> Is anyone having trouble reading PDF files with MS Edge under windows
>> 2004? These are not image files. They read well under windows 1909.
>>
>> Edge freezes and forces user into a bower button forced shutdown.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

Josh Kennedy
 

the best screen reader to use with talking dosbox is ASAP, with NVDA set up as a braille n speak synthesizer, after you set up com0com. all directions are on the batsupport talking dosbox website. Microtalk's ASAP that comes with the talking dosbox win3.1 keynote keysoft.zip will give you the best screen reader experience. Also in the talking dosbox win3.1 keynote keysoft.zip file are all the dos Jim Kitchen's games and a lot of other games, and a demo of mega-dots braille translator, wordperfect 5.1, lotus1-2-3 for dos, and much more. and you also get windows 3.1 with a window-eyes demo, keysoft and keynote gold demo, and text assist which sounds exactly like the old decTalk tts. oh and speaking of decTalk, fonix INC never emails me back about using decTalk as an NVDA addon. so it seems like they just don't care. so this is just me, but personally I am going to use the python3 decTalk addon just for my own personal use sometimes. But I still really like the codeFactory eloquence and vocalizer addon, and the codeFactory sapi5 text to speech that I bought, eloquence and vocalizer. 


Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

 

Well you could always try a 32 bit version of windows.

That will run all 16 bit apps.

Now granted the emulation is utter crap but it will do if you need to use it.



On 13/09/2020 2:28 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I also would like to find  a way to renovate DOS for only one simple reason.  There were a few games: Any Night Football, Jim Kitchen's DOS baseball game (which works more smoothly than his windows port,) and World Series Baseball. 

In particular, World Series Baseball was and still would be one of my favorites of any game I have played.  With this game, not only did it come with preconceived teams from baseball history like the 1927 Yankees, The 1965 Dodgers, The 1976 Reds and so on, but you could also put together your own teams and give them high or low batting averages and the pitcher could get high or low ERAs.  If you did this with various configurations, you could rig the scores and outcomes of games.  For laughs and giggle, I put together two teams: one was a group of sighted people from the local ham radio clubs.  The other team was a number of blind people I knew from the local area.  I gave the sighted team low batting averages and high ERAs.  I have the blind people high batting averages and low ERAs.  I called the ham radio people 'the Buffalo Hambones.'  I called the blind people 'The Buffalo Blinks.' It was really funny.  The blind team won the World Series four games to zero by astronomical scores like 22-0 and 17-2.  What's more, the audio output of the games as they were being played could be saved to a text file.  I actually had this 500 KB sized text file and for laughs and giggle, I sent it around to various friends of mine.  Yes the virtual play-by-play of the game. What a hoot!  It was great when my good sighted ham friend Tony struck out four times when facing the young blind lady pitcher. 

Boy, I wish I could have a DOS system so I could play that game again!


On 9/12/2020 5:24 PM, blindgroupsluke@... wrote:

Hi Leslie,

 

Fair question. Yup, it’s an ancient and completely outdated operating system. Retro computer stuff is a hobby / fascination of mine so I wanted to poke around and see what I could do in DOS. Maybe re-live my childhood a bit, haha. In other words, just for fun and no practical reason whatsoever.


Luke

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 2:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

 

Why do you want to work with such an old environment?  When I first got a computer in 2000, Dos was very, very old, at least in computer programs.  I think I had Windows 5 when I started.  I know my teacher used to like Dos when he wanted to go deep into the computer to do certain things with programs and such.  Does Dos help you with that sort of thing?  This is just my curiosity flowing.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: blindgroupsluke@...
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 1:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

 

Hi folks. I’d like to use DosBox, a piece of software that emulates an MS-DOS environment. (If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you’re probably younger than 30. Lol.) Anyhow, DosBox simulates the text-based DOS prompt but isn’t actually a text application. As far as NVDA is concerned, the DosBox window is all graphics.

Are there any strategies for making something like this accessible for us NVDA users? I’m a developer and recently started learning Python so I can author NVDA add-ons. Could an add-on be created that monitors the DosBox screen and translates it to NVDA-readable text, perhaps employing OCR or something? If so, would anyone want to partner on such a project?

 

Thanks,

Luke

 

 


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Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

 

Thats a point joseph, I wander what would happen if you did run dosbox or dosemu within linux, I know you can do dosemu via ssh in actual linux and it will work.

The only thing you would really need would be some emulator that either uses windows terminal or the windows console itself.

I have a few games that run in the console and look alike modern dos programs but are console apps.

I wander how hard that would be to do, run dos and 16 bit programs well emulate them but run all the output through windows console.



On 13/09/2020 10:32 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

The console itself must provide a way for NVDA to detect and announce text changes. Given the nature of emulators, this becoming real is highly unlikely.

As for WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux), a huge correction: you cannot run Orca on it (or if you can, it’ll require additional tweaking). The whole point of WSL is to make it possible for developers familiar with Linux tools to use a combination of Windows and Linux command-line tools and scripts for various tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 3:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

 

Hi David. Thank you for the response. Unfortunately the command prompt in windows 10 doesn’t provide a complete DOS environment. The last version of windows to support true DOS mode was windows 95, if I’m not mistaken. Some retro gamers get really hardcore and actually put together old PCs with original hardware from the 80s or 90s and then install an older operating system like DOS. I don’t think I want to go quite that far LOL so I was hoping to run one of these emulators to give me the same experience. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find any that are screen reader compatible. Some guys apparently have luck installing old versions of jaws for DOS within these emulators. I actually hunted down an old version of jaws for DOS and tried installing it within the emulator but I couldn’t get it to work, mostly because I have no idea what’s going on so I’m just typing blindly. I tried to use NVDA’s OCR feature to get a sense of what was happening but I gave up. Maybe I will give it another go later 

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