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Re: Vocalizer trial

Akash Kakkar
 

Which one provides better responsiveness and quality?

On 9/14/2020 5:10 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Samuel,

There are two companies who sell Vocalizer:

Tiflotecnia sell Vocalizer which you can download from: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads (I'm pretty sure you can just install that, and if you don't have a license, it goes into trial mode).  You might need to check with them if that is the latest version, or the earlier one which only works up to NVDA 2019.2.1 (I've CC'd Rui Fontes at Tiflotecnia who can help here also).

Code Factory also sell a bundle which includes both Vocalizer and Eloquence: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/  I believe their download works in much the same way (it goes into demo mode if you don't have a license code).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:33 AM Samuel Villa <sjv89550@...> wrote:

Good afternoon,

I was wondering how I can obtain a trial of Vocalizer for NVDA. If any developers of the project could help me out with this issue, that would be great. Thank you.



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Re: Vocalizer trial

Samuel Villa
 

Thank you for the information. I will try that out.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer trial

 

Hi Samuel,

 

There are two companies who sell Vocalizer:

 

Tiflotecnia sell Vocalizer which you can download from: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads (I'm pretty sure you can just install that, and if you don't have a license, it goes into trial mode).  You might need to check with them if that is the latest version, or the earlier one which only works up to NVDA 2019.2.1 (I've CC'd Rui Fontes at Tiflotecnia who can help here also).

 

Code Factory also sell a bundle which includes both Vocalizer and Eloquence: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/  I believe their download works in much the same way (it goes into demo mode if you don't have a license code).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:33 AM Samuel Villa <sjv89550@...> wrote:

Good afternoon,

I was wondering how I can obtain a trial of Vocalizer for NVDA. If any developers of the project could help me out with this issue, that would be great. Thank you.


 

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Re: NVDA 2020.3 beta 1 is now available

brian
 

    Same here for me.  So far so good no problems yet.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/14/2020 10:29 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Quentin,


I'm testing the new beta version of NVDA and so-far it's working great for me.


Rosemarie



On 9/14/2020 5:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Beta1 of NVDA 2020.3 is now available for download and testing. For anyone who is interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has to offer before it is officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide feedback.

NVDA 2020.3 includes several large improvements to stability and performance, particularly in Microsoft Office applications. There are new settings to toggle touchscreen support and graphics reporting. The existence of marked (highlighted) content can be reported in browsers, and there are new German braille tables.


This beta will prompt to update to future 2020.3 betas, release candidates and the final 2020.3 once it is released.


Visit https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3beta1/ for more information and to download the new beta.


Kind regards


Quentin.


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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder navigation addon

 

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Re: NVDA 2020.3 beta 1 is now available

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,


I'm testing the new beta version of NVDA and so-far it's working great for me.


Rosemarie



On 9/14/2020 5:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Beta1 of NVDA 2020.3 is now available for download and testing. For anyone who is interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has to offer before it is officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide feedback.

NVDA 2020.3 includes several large improvements to stability and performance, particularly in Microsoft Office applications. There are new settings to toggle touchscreen support and graphics reporting. The existence of marked (highlighted) content can be reported in browsers, and there are new German braille tables.


This beta will prompt to update to future 2020.3 betas, release candidates and the final 2020.3 once it is released.


Visit https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3beta1/ for more information and to download the new beta.


Kind regards


Quentin.


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NVDA 2020.3 beta 1 is now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Beta1 of NVDA 2020.3 is now available for download and testing. For anyone who is interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has to offer before it is officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide feedback.

NVDA 2020.3 includes several large improvements to stability and performance, particularly in Microsoft Office applications. There are new settings to toggle touchscreen support and graphics reporting. The existence of marked (highlighted) content can be reported in browsers, and there are new German braille tables.


This beta will prompt to update to future 2020.3 betas, release candidates and the final 2020.3 once it is released.


Visit https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3beta1/ for more information and to download the new beta.


Kind regards


Quentin.


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Thunderbird quick key folder navigation addon

Don H
 

What is the latest version of thunderbird that still works with the quick key folder navigation addon?


Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

 

Well luke, the issue with a vm, especially a dos one is more physical than not.

1.  yes you can.

You would get as much responce out of dos as you would a basic linux terminal.

But here is the thing.

You don't have a physical serial port or a synth.

Assuming you had both of those, yes you could.

However unless you had something like a soundblaster card or something and its drivers you couldn't really handle sound.

Lets face it, modern pc speakers are utter crap.

There is no need  for a pc speaker if everything is via sound.

Sound cards may have speakers.

I know on some systems they only have emulated pc speakers within the sound chip.

There are systems I have used that don't have a pc speaker at all.

Most if not all systems may have one but you will never hear it unless its got an issue.

But in theory and if you had the right equipment you could.

But most don't have serial synths or the ports to run them so it won't work.


The closest would be some sort of os like linux that handled all this stuff.

On 14/09/2020 8:31 pm, Luke Davis wrote:
As Shaun Everiss pointed out, you could try DOSEmu for this.
I would probably spin up an EC2 instance, or something at one of the cheap Linode alternatives, install DOSEmu, and see what you could make work.

It's been 10-15 years since I used DOSEmu, but when I did I remember it being pretty good.

The other option I considered for this, would be to install a DOS based virtual machine in Virtualbox or something.  I don't know for sure if you can do that, but it might be possible to run a 16 bit OS there.
There were remote access protocols for DOS, that would allow you to use it over a serial port. You could probably use it with a terminal emulator over a virtual comm port.

I'm not sure how responsive NVDA might be in that scenario, but I'll be interested in your results for historical reasons.

I recently had occasion to try to run SSHDOS (SSH for DOS) under Win 10 to support a customer who still uses DOS and SSH, but I could not for the same reasons discussed earlier here.

Luke

Luke  Robinett wrote:

Hi Joseph. Right. The DOS box consul is not a text based Consol. It supports DOS applications that run in both text and graphics modes so when it displays
text, it’s actually displaying a graphical representation of text. this is why in my first post I was wondering if an NVDA add-on could be created in python
that would work something like the following:
1. Monitor the dos box Consol for any changes
2. Anytime a change is detected, apply OCR to convert the consul output to text
3. Compare this OCR snapshot to the previous and announce to NVDA whatever changed, such as the display scrolling, a value on the screen changing, etc.
I am brushing up on my python as we speak and I have identified some library’s that deal with taking a screen capture of the active application as well as
OCR. I’m not sure if this exceeds the limitations of what NVDA add-ons are capable of but I figure it’s worth a shot. Plus, it gives me a good project to
learn python, if nothing else.


Re: It is a pity that NVDA does not support browse mode in OneNote for UWP

 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:17 AM, rowen brian wrote:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8850
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And I don't see an additional comment from you on that issue.  That's how priorities get set, at least partially.  The developers don't base what they're working on from what happens to get mentioned here, but through a process that prioritizes the issues on GitHub.  And much like any issue tracking system, the more separate people that "pile on" to an existing open issue to note that they have it, too, and would like to see a solution, the more likely it is to get bumped up in the priority list.
 
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Re: accessible SIP client

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I use MicroSIP, it is accessible.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: 04 September 2020 05:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible SIP client

The company I'm starting with uses a program called Zoiper. It's what I
would call marginally usable, meaning NVDA sometimes can't find where it's
supposed to be and clicks the wrong thing.
Would like to know of a recommendation for an accessible SIP
client/softphone I could switch to, if the company gives me permission to,
that is. Thanks.


Re: Work with audio editors in professional way with Nvda possible or not?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I personally would use Reaper. It is much more accessible, unless you want to stay in single track land. Take a look at http://www.reaperaccessibility.com.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pavel Vlcek
Sent: 01 September 2020 12:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Work with audio editors in professional way with Nvda possible or not?

Hi all,

my name is Pavel I am from Czech Republic. I am owner of little recording studio for disabled people, including visually impaired etc. I also have a small group of members. We used Mac Os for 8 years, but the life of the computer ended. At this time, we don't have money to buy professional Mac, which will work with Logic Pro X and Komplete Kontrol etc. So at this time, we and especially I, because I am main sound master need to use my older HP Z-book 17,3 the first generation with Win
10 and Nvda. Software, which can I use is Soundforge, Goldwave and Audacity. So, can computer with Nvda and Win 10 be used for professional audio work or not?

Thanks,

Pavel


Re: I'm looking for programs for virtual audio cable and microphone boosting

Luke Davis
 

There is an add-on for the actual Virtual Audio Cable program.
The author hasn't put it on the community site for some reason, but you can get it here: https://www.dlee.org/vac/NVDA/

Luke

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

I'm looking for two somewhat related to each other programs for Windows 10.
One of them is a virtual audio cable program. I want to be able to record sound from specific programs only a game, a virtual machine in VMWare Player,
etc., and not from the whole system as happens if I record via "Stereo Mix".


I'm looking for programs for virtual audio cable and microphone boosting

 

Hello all,

I'm looking for two somewhat related to each other programs for Windows 10.

One of them is a virtual audio cable program. I want to be able to record sound from specific programs only a game, a virtual machine in VMWare Player, etc., and not from the whole system as happens if I record via "Stereo Mix".

The other one is a program that will let me modify my microphone's volume level and audio quality. My headset's microphone has a good noise cancellation function, but its volume level is lower than I would like it to be (and in its properties in Windows there is no "Boost" setting to increase its volume level in decibels.

Both programs should be accessible to use with NVDA and preferably free as well.

Can someone recommend me such programs?

Thanks in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

Luke Davis
 

As Shaun Everiss pointed out, you could try DOSEmu for this.
I would probably spin up an EC2 instance, or something at one of the cheap Linode alternatives, install DOSEmu, and see what you could make work.

It's been 10-15 years since I used DOSEmu, but when I did I remember it being pretty good.

The other option I considered for this, would be to install a DOS based virtual machine in Virtualbox or something. I don't know for sure if you can do that, but it might be possible to run a 16 bit OS there.
There were remote access protocols for DOS, that would allow you to use it over a serial port. You could probably use it with a terminal emulator over a virtual comm port.

I'm not sure how responsive NVDA might be in that scenario, but I'll be interested in your results for historical reasons.

I recently had occasion to try to run SSHDOS (SSH for DOS) under Win 10 to support a customer who still uses DOS and SSH, but I could not for the same reasons discussed earlier here.

Luke

Luke Robinett wrote:

Hi Joseph. Right. The DOS box consul is not a text based Consol. It supports DOS applications that run in both text and graphics modes so when it displays
text, it’s actually displaying a graphical representation of text. this is why in my first post I was wondering if an NVDA add-on could be created in python
that would work something like the following:
1. Monitor the dos box Consol for any changes
2. Anytime a change is detected, apply OCR to convert the consul output to text
3. Compare this OCR snapshot to the previous and announce to NVDA whatever changed, such as the display scrolling, a value on the screen changing, etc.
I am brushing up on my python as we speak and I have identified some library’s that deal with taking a screen capture of the active application as well as
OCR. I’m not sure if this exceeds the limitations of what NVDA add-ons are capable of but I figure it’s worth a shot. Plus, it gives me a good project to
learn python, if nothing else.


It is a pity that NVDA does not support browse mode in OneNote for UWP

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

I want to use OneNote to take notes, but NVDA can't use the browse mode in it, which troubles me very much. There are other people on Github who are similar to my situation. I hope the developers can fix this error.

Issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8850


Re: Long-standing NVDA bug with visual studio still unresolved

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

Yes, too much useless information is almost unbearable, hope to fix it.


Re: NVDA support in DOS emulators like DosBox?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Josh,

That Talking DOS Box package sounds great, but did you get it working at all? I got the software installed with the Com emulator for com 0 and I even got speech. But whenever I tried running the games, the system hung.


On 9/13/2020 3:14 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
the best screen reader to use with talking dosbox is ASAP, with NVDA set up as a braille n speak synthesizer, after you set up com0com. all directions are on the batsupport talking dosbox website. Microtalk's ASAP that comes with the talking dosbox win3.1 keynote keysoft.zip will give you the best screen reader experience. Also in the talking dosbox win3.1 keynote keysoft.zip file are all the dos Jim Kitchen's games and a lot of other games, and a demo of mega-dots braille translator, wordperfect 5.1, lotus1-2-3 for dos, and much more. and you also get windows 3.1 with a window-eyes demo, keysoft and keynote gold demo, and text assist which sounds exactly like the old decTalk tts. oh and speaking of decTalk, fonix INC never emails me back about using decTalk as an NVDA addon. so it seems like they just don't care. so this is just me, but personally I am going to use the python3 decTalk addon just for my own personal use sometimes. But I still really like the codeFactory eloquence and vocalizer addon, and the codeFactory sapi5 text to speech that I bought, eloquence and vocalizer. 

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Re: Vocalizer trial

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Samuel,

There are two companies who sell Vocalizer:

Tiflotecnia sell Vocalizer which you can download from: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads (I'm pretty sure you can just install that, and if you don't have a license, it goes into trial mode).  You might need to check with them if that is the latest version, or the earlier one which only works up to NVDA 2019.2.1 (I've CC'd Rui Fontes at Tiflotecnia who can help here also).

Code Factory also sell a bundle which includes both Vocalizer and Eloquence: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/  I believe their download works in much the same way (it goes into demo mode if you don't have a license code).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:33 AM Samuel Villa <sjv89550@...> wrote:

Good afternoon,

I was wondering how I can obtain a trial of Vocalizer for NVDA. If any developers of the project could help me out with this issue, that would be great. Thank you.



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Re: Running production build and alpha build concurrently?

Quentin Christensen
 

Glad you got it working :)

Another option, if you only want to try one thing out quickly and won't use that alpha build again, instead of creating a portable version, from that launcher screen which comes up when you start it (with the license, and the options to install or create portable copy) there is an option called "Continue" - that keeps the temporary copy of NVDA running which starts when this launcher starts - you can try what you need to try, and just be aware that this version won't save any changes to its configuration etc.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:05 AM <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
Thanks Gene. Yeah, I ended up installing the alpha build as a portable copy
as not to interfere with the main install and that seemed to work fine.
Thanks for the reply. :)


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running production build and alpha build concurrently?

You can't have more than one copy installed but you can have an installed
copy and a portable version on the same machine.  You can have as many
portable versions as you want and no installed version if you wish.

The portable versions can't do certtain things, and those limitations apply
mostly to Windows 10.  But you may be able to check whatever you intend to
with the portable version.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: blindgroupsluke@...
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running production build and alpha build concurrently?



I have the latest production version of NVDA installed on my machine but
need to install an alpha build to troubleshoot an issue. If I install an
alpha build, will it replace my normal install or will I be able to have
both versions installed at the same time and choose which I want to run?



Thanks,

Luke














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Re: FileZilla brings NVDA to a grinding halt

Quentin Christensen
 

Would it be possible to get an NVDA log from when this occurs please?

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - Use Filezilla.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.og (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.


On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:36 AM Jesse Farquharson <jesse100rules@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I have been trying to do some large folder transfers from FileZilla to my new machine. I noticed this on the old one, but chopped it up to the laughable specs on it. This new machine however is a complete monster, and while I'm trying to do a FileZilla transfer of 20000+ audio files, NVDA grinds to a complete stop. If I try and move around the FileZilla window, I often have to restart NVDA. Can anyone comment on this?

Thanks.



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