Hi, Gene,


I have my keyboard set to skim mode so all I have to do is press the up arrow and the message is read out. I haven't had to do that too often though because most of the messages are read out once I hit the enter key.


Rosemarie



On 9/18/2020 11:14 PM, Gene wrote:

You shouldn't have to go to the top of the message.  Just press enter to open it, wait a moment, then issue the read to end command.


Gene

On 9/18/2020 11:07 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'm having this problem too. I guess the only thing you can do is go to the top of the message and hit insert down-arrow to read it. I don't know of any way to turn off the extra verbage.



On 9/18/2020 5:11 PM, Don H wrote:

Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2. It says property page followed by the time the message was sent. For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?

You shouldn't have to go to the top of the message.  Just press enter to open it, wait a moment, then issue the read to end command.


Gene

On 9/18/2020 11:07 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'm having this problem too. I guess the only thing you can do is go to the top of the message and hit insert down-arrow to read it. I don't know of any way to turn off the extra verbage.



On 9/18/2020 5:11 PM, Don H wrote:

Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2.  It says property page followed by the time the message was sent. For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?

I'm having this problem too. I guess the only thing you can do is go to the top of the message and hit insert down-arrow to read it. I don't know of any way to turn off the extra verbage.



On 9/18/2020 5:11 PM, Don H wrote:

Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2.  It says property page followed by the time the message was sent.  For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?

Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2.  It says property page followed by the time the message was sent.  For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?

Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2.  It says property page followed by the time the message was sent.  For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?

Heavens! Has skype become more and more less accessible?  I don’t use it anymore. I’ve used it with win 7 a little with an earlier version of NVDA.  I haven’t used it since 2015.  I don’t think I want to use it anymore.  I use facetime on the Ipad instead.  No more skype for this grey duck! Lol. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: inamuddinInam Uddin via groups.io
Sent: September 18, 2020 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

I’m very sorry to let you know that I wrote this email on 08/12/2020 and today is 09/19/2020 but Skype has not fixed it yet.

Unfortunately The fixed JAWS script for Skype is not working to my machine too!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

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From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 5:32 AM
To: Group Moderators
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

Hello. See the skype english list. The jaws scripts have ben fixed. This is a problem with teams as well, and that was already fixed . That will be fixed hopefully in a skype update soon.

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On 12 Aug 2020, at 17:18, Inam Uddin via groups.io wrote:

Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest NVDA I cannot use Skype.

The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.

As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.

With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator it is working fine.

Please do something it is a serious issue!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

I’m very sorry to let you know that I wrote this email on 08/12/2020 and today is 09/19/2020 but Skype has not fixed it yet.

Unfortunately The fixed JAWS script for Skype is not working to my machine too!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I don't know why you hear that.  I don't.  Once you open a message, wait a moment, then use the read to end command.  That should cause the message body to be read and interrupt or avoid unnecessary speech or unwanted repetition of one or more headers.


You may be able to stop the field that shows the time a message was sent or received, I'm not sure which, and that might stop the behavior.  I'll play around and see if I can turn it off.


Gene

On 9/18/2020 7:11 PM, Don H wrote:

Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2.  It says property page followed by the time the message was sent.  For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?

Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2.  It says property page followed by the time the message was sent.  For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?

I think thats why they ask me to come again with my laptop and Braille
display, to check that.

If i’ll not work on my laptop, i’ll work on there.
They are very willing to help.
Do i need to install the Braille display driver, or its automatic?

Sent from my Iphone

On 18 Sep 2020, at 22:10, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:



Well if nvda is ok, your laptop could be the best but companies don't
necessarily like you working off of a non company laptop which is not
propperly handled.


On 18/09/2020 9:32 pm, Afik Souffir wrote:

The customer service manager read about NVDA and said she thinks that’s ok.
As far as I know, there IT department did a security check on the NVDA
install file.
But, they said they need to check my laptop and NVDA and decide if I'll work
on my laptop or there computer.

Afik.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and secuirity info


Well, as far as I understand, if their it allows you to securely login to
their system, all they need is install your display drivers, nvda and addons
you need on the system and thats it in admin mode.

If your laptop, they may just give you remote access but you will still need
nvda installed on that system.

That is assuming they don't then say nvda is not secure because it is
opensource and then ask you to jaws.




On 18/09/2020 8:38 pm, Afik Souffir wrote:

Hi,

Recently I found myself on many interviews for jobs. One of the questions I
have to answer is: NVDA can work on secure system?
Such, organazations, companies, and such?

I read that the answer is yes, but I would like a clear answer here.

One of the companies ask me to go to them again, with my braille display and
laptop, so they can check if NVDA is secure, and how I will work, with my
laptop or on there.


Thanks for any answer.

Afik.

On 18 Sep 2020, at 22:10, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:



Well if nvda is ok, your laptop could be the best but companies don't necessarily like you working off of a non company laptop which is not propperly handled.

On 18/09/2020 9:32 pm, Afik Souffir wrote:

 

The customer service manager read about NVDA and said she thinks that’s ok.

As far as I know, there IT department did a security check on the NVDA install file.

But, they said they need to check my laptop and NVDA and decide if I'll work on my laptop or there computer.

 

Afik.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and secuirity info

 

Well, as far as I understand, if their it allows you to securely login to their system, all they need is install your display drivers, nvda and addons you need on the system and thats it in admin mode.

If your laptop, they may just give you remote access but you will still need nvda installed on that system.

That is assuming they don't then say nvda is not secure because it is opensource and then ask you to jaws.

 

 

On 18/09/2020 8:38 pm, Afik Souffir wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Recently I found myself on many interviews for jobs. One of the questions I have to answer is: NVDA can work on secure system?

Such, organazations, companies, and such?

 

I read that the answer is yes, but I would like a clear answer here.

 

One of the companies ask me to go to them again, with my braille display and laptop, so they can check if NVDA is secure, and how I will work, with my laptop or on there.

 

 

Thanks for any answer.

 

Afik.

 

 

The customer service manager read about NVDA and said she thinks that’s ok.

As far as I know, there IT department did a security check on the NVDA install file.

But, they said they need to check my laptop and NVDA and decide if I'll work on my laptop or there computer.

 

Afik.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and secuirity info

 

Well, as far as I understand, if their it allows you to securely login to their system, all they need is install your display drivers, nvda and addons you need on the system and thats it in admin mode.

If your laptop, they may just give you remote access but you will still need nvda installed on that system.

That is assuming they don't then say nvda is not secure because it is opensource and then ask you to jaws.

 

 

On 18/09/2020 8:38 pm, Afik Souffir wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Recently I found myself on many interviews for jobs. One of the questions I have to answer is: NVDA can work on secure system?

Such, organazations, companies, and such?

 

I read that the answer is yes, but I would like a clear answer here.

 

One of the companies ask me to go to them again, with my braille display and laptop, so they can check if NVDA is secure, and how I will work, with my laptop or on there.

 

 

Thanks for any answer.

 

Afik.

 

Hello all,

I was a loyal Window-Eyes user for more than 20 years, but when it was bought out, I didn’t want anything to do with it. That’s when I switched to NVDA. So far I have been very pleased. However, I am disappointed that NVDA cannot perform this basic function. As for the add-on, as others have said, there needs to be some up-to-date supporting documentation. And, when I went to install it yesterday, I got a message indicating that it is not compatible with the newest version of NVDA. For philosophical and financial reasons, I will not use JAWS. Fortunately, at this time, selecting and manipulating files from a list is not something I have to do regularly. I will try some of the work-arounds some have mentioned; perhaps Narrator can do this?

Thanks for the comments and suggestions,

Janet

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 1:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages

And, to be perfectly honest, unless you do not trust the source of the message seeing naked URLs is of virtually zero benefit.  And if you do not trust the source of a message, even playing around in it and chancing accidentally activating a URL contained therein is not wise.

The messages I get from entities I routinely do business with all contain click-through links that use text describing what it is you're clicking through to, whether that's a reference page, product, etc.   I never even look at the URLs for those, because the source is trustworthy.

There is the very rare occasion I need to do this, but if push came to shove and I couldn't see it, I'd do what was suggested earlier with copying the link location and pasting it in Notepad or similar.  I just very very seldom have any reason to check links from sources I know to be trustworthy, and if I have even the slightest doubt regarding the source I won't touch the URLs in the e-mail anyway; it goes straight to trash.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

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On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:10 PM, Gene wrote:

Does Outlook have a status line?

-
Having just checked, the answer to that is, "Yes and no."   It certainly has what I'd call a status line to let you know that send-receive is going on, whether filters are applied, whether you're connected to your server and similar.   But when reading messages it's a mouse-over pop-up box that shows the naked URL.

I also have installed the latest NVDA beta and am not certain whether I'm having an issue or not.  I could have sworn when you're reading a message in Outlook that you could use the web browsing shortcuts like U and V to go to unvisited or visited links in a message, but that's not working for me at the moment (but I could be having the proverbial "brain fart" and doing something wrong, too).
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde