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Re: Notepad++ Issue with Preferences

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I can’t reproduce that. When switching apps it always comes back to Preferences. I’m using Notepad++ v7.5.6 (64-bit)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich Caloggero
Sent: Sonntag, 20. September 2020 19:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Notepad++ Issue with Preferences

 

I'm trying Notepad++ again, and it seems a bit better this time around.

However, one thing I am noticing is that when I bring up preferences, then switch away from the program, then switch back again, preferences is completely gone. Attempting to bring it up again does nothing.  If I close the current Notepad++ file window, preferences reappears, so it would seem that it is somehow in a hidden tab which most likely is not accessible via keystroke. I'll bet you can click somewhere with a mouse and have it magically appear.

Does anyone know of a fix for this?

-- Rich


Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage

Andy Jobben
 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 03:13 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
BrowserNav add-on
I found that add-on, but the description is talking about paragraphs. How can i do this wit links?


Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage

Andy Jobben
 

That would be a good one :)


Re: Notepad++ Issue with Preferences

Gene
 

I don't use Notepad++, but whenever you are working with tabs or a program with windows you can't move to in ways you might usually do, use control tab to see if you can. It works to move among tabs and it works in Winamp to move among windows and in Thunderbird, as examples.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Caloggero
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Notepad++ Issue with Preferences

I'm trying Notepad++ again, and it seems a bit better this time around.

However, one thing I am noticing is that when I bring up preferences, then switch away from the program, then switch back again, preferences is completely gone. Attempting to bring it up again does nothing. If I close the current Notepad++ file window, preferences reappears, so it would seem that it is somehow in a hidden tab which most likely is not accessible via keystroke. I'll bet you can click somewhere with a mouse and have it magically appear.

Does anyone know of a fix for this?

-- Rich


Notepad++ Issue with Preferences

Rich Caloggero
 

I'm trying Notepad++ again, and it seems a bit better this time around.

However, one thing I am noticing is that when I bring up preferences, then switch away from the program, then switch back again, preferences is completely gone. Attempting to bring it up again does nothing.  If I close the current Notepad++ file window, preferences reappears, so it would seem that it is somehow in a hidden tab which most likely is not accessible via keystroke. I'll bet you can click somewhere with a mouse and have it magically appear.

Does anyone know of a fix for this?

-- Rich


Re: Accessible windows camera/video editing apps – do they exist?

Pramit
 

Hi Luke,

You can try using the Windows Movie Maker. It's accessible and have large set of features that you can use for editing your video.

Hope this helps!

Pramit


On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:59 PM Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
I like to make the occasional YouTube video but so far have just relied on the very limited but fully accessible windows camera app. Just wondering if anybody has had any luck with third-party preferably free camera or video editing apps. It would be nice to be able to produce something a bit more professional. Thanks.





Re: An inconvenience in Thunderbird

Gene
 

I didn't bring it up because that specific thing matters to any extent.  I brought it up because, since I haven't used the program much, I wanted to see if it was a more general problem.  it appears to be very limited and probably doesn't matter to any extent if it is pursued.  But if it were a far more general characteristic of the dialogs in the program, it would matter. For example, if shortcut commands weren't announced in the spellchecker, that would really matter.  They are announced and are different from the Microsoft shortcut commands.  As I said, this appears not to be a problem in general based on what I've seen and the lack of response, so it appears nothing need be done.


I also brought it up because it is such a popular program among blind users and developers put work into making it accessible.


Gene

On 9/19/2020 7:26 PM, Hope Williamson wrote:
Honestly I don't think it's that much of an inconvenience. I ignore most
of those anyway, unless something is actually preventing me from doing
something. This is extremely rare. Say in 98% of cases. .




Re: Latest Skype and screen readers

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

I would also recommend that one download the program off the web site rather than using the one in the Microsoft store. I’m not sure why, but that one is quite limited.

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

Never really had accessibility problems with skype, but for a long time I wasn’t able to use it as my stuff was so old. You should use the so-called Skype Electron aka Skype for Desktop.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: September 18, 2020 11:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

Heavens! Has skype become more and more less accessible?  I don’t use it anymore. I’ve used it with win 7 a little with an earlier version of NVDA.  I haven’t used it since 2015.  I don’t think I want to use it anymore.  I use facetime on the Ipad instead.  No more skype for this grey duck! Lol. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: inamuddinInam Uddin via groups.io
Sent: September 18, 2020 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

I’m very sorry to let you know that I wrote this email on 08/12/2020 and today is 09/19/2020 but Skype has not fixed it yet.

Unfortunately The fixed JAWS script for Skype is not working to my machine too!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 5:32 AM
To: Group Moderators
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

Hello. See the skype english list. The jaws scripts have ben fixed. This is a problem with teams as well, and that was already fixed . That will be fixed hopefully in a skype update soon.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Aug 2020, at 17:18, Inam Uddin via groups.io wrote:

Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest NVDA I cannot use Skype.

The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.

As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.

With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator it is working fine.

Please do something it is a serious issue!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: An inconvenience in Thunderbird

Hope Williamson
 

If I land on that particular dialogue, it's because I've messed up the
message I was writing really badly. I just discard it by default. That's
a different dialogue than say when Thunderbird is having issues saving
to the sent folder for some reason.

     Usually I get the dialogue that it's trying to save a message, but
can't because of network access errors. In that case I knew it was going
to slow everything down, so I wouldn't save the message either.


Re: An inconvenience in Thunderbird

Hope Williamson
 

Honestly I don't think it's that much of an inconvenience. I ignore most
of those anyway, unless something is actually preventing me from doing
something. This is extremely rare. Say in 98% of cases. .


Re: Latest Skype and screen readers

JM Casey
 

Never really had accessibility problems with skype, but for a long time I wasn’t able to use it as my stuff was so old. You should use the so-called Skype Electron aka Skype for Desktop.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: September 18, 2020 11:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

Heavens! Has skype become more and more less accessible?  I don’t use it anymore. I’ve used it with win 7 a little with an earlier version of NVDA.  I haven’t used it since 2015.  I don’t think I want to use it anymore.  I use facetime on the Ipad instead.  No more skype for this grey duck! Lol. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: inamuddinInam Uddin via groups.io
Sent: September 18, 2020 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

I’m very sorry to let you know that I wrote this email on 08/12/2020 and today is 09/19/2020 but Skype has not fixed it yet.

Unfortunately The fixed JAWS script for Skype is not working to my machine too!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 5:32 AM
To: Group Moderators
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Skype and screen readers

 

Hello. See the skype english list. The jaws scripts have ben fixed. This is a problem with teams as well, and that was already fixed . That will be fixed hopefully in a skype update soon.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Aug 2020, at 17:18, Inam Uddin via groups.io wrote:

Respected friends, today I’m very sorry to let you know that with the latest NVDA I cannot use Skype.

The matter of fact is that I’m using Skype 8.63.

As I go to desktop and focus to Skype, it says nothing other than Skype.

With JAWS it is continuously saying Chrome Legacy Windows, but with narrator it is working fine.

Please do something it is a serious issue!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Accessible windows camera/video editing apps – do they exist?

Sascha Cowley
 
Edited

  • I had some success using Virtual Dub several (6-7) years ago.
  • If you're able to find it and get it to work, Windows Live Movie Maker was reasonably accessible.
  • The Photos app in Windows 10 supports some basic video editing, though I suspect this will be the same as what you can access from the Camera app.
  • If you're patient and reasonably savvy, you may be able to get FFMPEG to do some of what you want, though it isn't really what it's intended for.


Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage

Tony Malykh
 

With my BrowserNav add-on, you can set your link to be a "browser mark" - and then you can press letter J to jump to that mark. This would be essentially finding your link by its title, except you won't have to type the search term every time. If you do this often - it'll save you a lot of time.

--Tony


On 9/17/2020 12:50 AM, Andy Jobben wrote:
Hi there NVDA users

I'm a WordPress user and i got a queation if there is a quicker way to help me work.

Let's say you have a website with many links. All those links are a navigation and have sub link aswell. Well the thing is that i need one of the links that are almost in the middle. I can tab till my finters breaks or use the element list NVDA plus F7, But i'm curious if there is a way that i can jump to that specific link/button by making a short key or with a addon.

Hope someone can help in this.


Accessible windows camera/video editing apps – do they exist?

Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...>
 

I like to make the occasional YouTube video but so far have just relied on the very limited but fully accessible windows camera app. Just wondering if anybody has had any luck with third-party preferably free camera or video editing apps. It would be nice to be able to produce something a bit more professional. Thanks.


Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage

Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...>
 

Well, it turns out I’ve been studying python and have wanted to get started authoring my first NVDA add-on. Maybe this would be a candidate for a good first project. Basically I’m thinking you could bind a custom hotkey to a link or control on a page that you want to be able to jump directly to. Thoughts on something like this?

On Sep 18, 2020, at 8:24 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:02 AM, Andy Jobben wrote:
I cant use the V because i sometimes use the other as well.
-
Unless you are actually visiting many links on this page, even doing a brute force traversal only of the links you've visited is faster than tabbing.  If you've only visited a few links on the page, and generally only visit a few, using a couple of hits of the V visited link command can be even faster than using screen reader find for pages you revisit on a frequent basis.

But for any page that you're new to, or newish to, using either regular browser find, screen reader find, or both is far more efficient.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages

Dzhovani
 

Actually, I can. Unless there is type of links that I've never met so far. NVDA+numpad5 would say "click here". NVDA+numpad8 for going down the object tree would say "click here, https://example.com/some-path-here". Works in Thunderbird and Firefox.


Re: An inconvenience in Thunderbird

Gene
 

This may be such an isolated instance that it isn't worth worrying about.  The spellchecker has shortcut letters, the options page, which mimics a dialog in many places, has shortcut letters in a lot of places that mimic dialog fields.  I don't know if it does in all. 


Those more familiar with the details of the program may know if this is a very rare instance or if there are more places where this occurs.


Gene

On 9/19/2020 12:03 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Gene,

           It is my general understanding that the letter underlines, be they in a menu, set of buttons, or similar are what the program exposes to the screen reader.  If the program itself isn't set up to pass this information to the screen reader, there's nothing the screen reader can announce (and, no, I won't even consider the very old "screen scraping" method of getting things as I don't know that any modern screen reader employs this mechanism).

           But I get the same result with NVDA that you do, in that the S for Save and the D for Discard are shown on those buttons with underlines yet there is no, "Save button, ALT+S" or "Discard changes button, ALT+D" announcements when you're on them, just the button names.

           This could be an NVDA issue, or it could be that Thunderbird is doing something peculiar with what it exposes, or doesn't expose, to NVDA.  But that would be for the respective developers to work out between themselves.  All an end user can know is that this is a problem, but you can't be 100% certain where the root cause lies.

            I have no idea how common or uncommon this might be.
           
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: An inconvenience in Thunderbird

 

Gene,

           It is my general understanding that the letter underlines, be they in a menu, set of buttons, or similar are what the program exposes to the screen reader.  If the program itself isn't set up to pass this information to the screen reader, there's nothing the screen reader can announce (and, no, I won't even consider the very old "screen scraping" method of getting things as I don't know that any modern screen reader employs this mechanism).

           But I get the same result with NVDA that you do, in that the S for Save and the D for Discard are shown on those buttons with underlines yet there is no, "Save button, ALT+S" or "Discard changes button, ALT+D" announcements when you're on them, just the button names.

           This could be an NVDA issue, or it could be that Thunderbird is doing something peculiar with what it exposes, or doesn't expose, to NVDA.  But that would be for the respective developers to work out between themselves.  All an end user can know is that this is a problem, but you can't be 100% certain where the root cause lies.

            I have no idea how common or uncommon this might be.
           
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


An inconvenience in Thunderbird

Gene
 

I've been using Thunderbird more over the last number of days and I realized that some of the dialogs aren't properly structured in the following regard:

When a button is announced, the shortcut letter should be spoken after the button.  In some dialogs, this isn't done.  For example, when you want to discard a message you are writing, a dialog asks you if you want to save or discard it.  The buttons don't speak the short cut letters.  At first, I thought that was because there aren't any.  But experimentation discloses that alt d discards the message.  I haven't tested for save but its probably alt s.


I tried to get NVDA, the program I've been evaluating with, to read the shortcut letter by using the command NVDA key tab when on the button but that didn't cause it to be read.  Evidently, the letters aren't underlined, which, it is my understanding, is the way screen-readers know to announce them in dialogs.


Those who have used the program for a longer time may have a sense of how many dialogs are deficient in this respect.  If the problem is rare, it may not be worth contacting the developers about.  If it is rather common, it would be.


Gene


Re: Thunderbird 78.2.2

Gene
 

That is performing the equivalent action of stopping repetition and causing the message body to be read.  I don't use skim mode and I don't know the specifics of what it reads with different commands.  But you are telling it to read something and that something is all or part of the message body.


Gene

On 9/19/2020 11:10 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I use NVDA. Yes, I do get some repititions if I press enter but if I press the up arrow key after pressing enter, I can read the entire message.



On 9/18/2020 11:35 PM, Gene wrote:
Don't you get repetition if you just press enter?  I don't use JAWS but if I press enter and do nothing else, I get a number of repetitions of the subject line.


Gene

On 9/19/2020 1:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene,


I have my keyboard set to skim mode so all I have to do is press the up arrow and the message is read out. I haven't had to do that too often though because most of the messages are read out once I hit the enter key.


Rosemarie



On 9/18/2020 11:14 PM, Gene wrote:
You shouldn't have to go to the top of the message.  Just press enter to open it, wait a moment, then issue the read to end command.


Gene

On 9/18/2020 11:07 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'm having this problem too. I guess the only thing you can do is go to the top of the message and hit insert down-arrow to read it. I don't know of any way to turn off the extra verbage.



On 9/18/2020 5:11 PM, Don H wrote:
Finding that the latest version of Thunderbird works well with NVDA. There is a new little bit of verbage when you open a message in thundervird 78.2.2. It says property page followed by the time the message was sent. For example before the message is read I hear Property Page 6:53 pm.  Is there a way to avoid this verbage?




















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