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NVDA 2020.3 beta2

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.3 beta 2 is now available for testing. This is the second beta for the 2020.3 release.  If you are interested in testing out new features, please take some time to test the release and report any issues.

Highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3beta2

Kind regards

Quentin.
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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: List of NVDA Key Strokes

David Moore
 

Hello thomas! Just hold down the nbda key, and press the letter n as in Nancy to bring up the main menu. Then, down arrow to the help submenu and press the right arrow key to open that period then, up arrow and press enter on the users guide. And entire guide for using nvda well open in your default browser. All of the key commands are in chapters four five and sex of that guide I believe that's right. To read by word, just use the Windows command holding down control and pressing right and left arrow keys. To read by line, just press down arrow for next line, up arrow for previous line, and hold down the nvda key and press up arrow to read current line. I believe that's right for current line. Basically, it's just using Windows commands for reading by character word and line like any other screen reader to get you started. You must use the regular arrow keys for nvda. If you use the number pad, you will be navigating with something called the review cursor which gets into more detail. So, use the normal arrow keys!


On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 6:50 PM Thomas E Williamson, Senior <pofm2016@...> wrote:
Hello,

I am new to the list.  
How can I find the general reading key strokes for NVDA?
For example, reading by character, by word, or by line.
Thanks!

Regards,
Thomas.
 
 


Re: List of NVDA Key Strokes

 

Thomas,

          If you're using the desktop keyboard layout [most likely, and the default on any keyboard that includes a number pad] the NVDA key is Insert and if you're using the laptop keyboard layout it's CAPS LOCK.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: List of NVDA Key Strokes

 

Thomas,

           This is built in to NVDA itself, under the NVDA Help Menu.  If you hit NVDA+N,H,Q (NVDA Main Menu, Help Submenu, Commands Quick Reference) you'll be presented with the long list of the most commonly used key commands, including reading commands, in whatever web browser you have set as your default.

            Also take a look at the other options under the Help Submenu.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


List of NVDA Key Strokes

Thomas E Williamson, Senior
 

Hello,

I am new to the list.  
How can I find the general reading key strokes for NVDA?
For example, reading by character, by word, or by line.
Thanks!

Regards,
Thomas.
 
 


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

David Moore
 

I use the Windows 10 mail app a lot as well! Nvda works best with that app, even better than narrator. Have a great day!


On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 9:40 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:
Overall Windows10 Mail app.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 21 sep 2020, a la(s) 6:40 p.m., Sky Mundell <skyt@...> escribió:

Hello. As a user of both JFW and NVDA, I’m use NVDA in my tech job and it has served me very well. Just wondering, what areas don’t work on windows 10 with JFW? Perhaps I could try them and see if it runs on my machine?

On Sep 21, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

Having had the opportunity to try the competition (the shark during the pademic), one really values how far NVDA has come! Always evolving; lot less light on my Laptop than the competition. All functions are available, independently of in Spanish, or english, via the AddOns, and those functions that are in NVDA’s core, which the Shark isn’t able to accomplish.
Someone who uses windows10 with the Shark, would get the false idea that windows10 is inaccessible; whereas with NVDA, one gets a totally different picture of the true accessibility of windows10, of course, in conjunction with NVDA’s Windows10 Essentials, and other AddOns that make Windows10 a joy to use!
thanks to the Zoom Enhancement AddOn, goldWave AddOn, and others, I feel as if I were using e computer at the same level as the sighted.
Keep up the great work! though I am unable at this time to donate monitarily, but by spreading the word among the Latinamerican NVDA comunity via Whatsapp, Facebook, Email and other social media, I feel I’m putting my grain of sand in making more and more people aware of what they’re losing out by not giving NVDA a chance.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 21 sep 2020, a la(s) 4:24 p.m., Monte Single <mrsingle@...> escribió:


Hi List,
 
As always, nvda is my screen reader of choice.
I encourage others to add nvda to their toolkit.
Features are being added to nvda faster than I learn and use them.
I support the project  by purchasing  manuals and making donations.
 
Thanks,
 
Monte
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: September 21, 2020 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic
 
I am so grateful for NVDA.
Words can not express my gratitude.
Thank you for all that you do.
During this pandemic NVDA is helping me use webex to attend classes and helping me complete assignments.
 
It is also helping me stay in contact with friends and family.
 
If it were not for NVDA I would not be able to attend school right now.
Again, thank you so much.
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic
 
Hi everyone,
 
As this turbulent year continues, we want to hear your good news.  Please reply (or email info@...), and tell us, how has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic?
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
-- 
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
 



Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,


NVDA has been my full-time screen reader now since2011. Last year I did have a 90-dollar subscription for the jaws home license but decided not to renew it. I watch movies on youtube, listen to music, shop for books online and email. I'd also like to thank the NV Access team for all the fine work they do to make NVDA the great screen reader that it is. It keeps getting better all the time.


Rosemarie



On 9/22/2020 2:54 PM, David Moore wrote:

Like hope says below, I use nvda every day! I have used it 80% of the time I am on the computer doing many tasks like browsing the internet for information, using the Microsoft news app in Windows 10, watching movies, listening to news, and on and on . Nvda is my full time screen reader now. For the first time in years, I did not renew my software maintenance agreement for Jaws. Nvda allows me to access the latest news easily on browsers like brave, Microsoft edge, chrome, water fox, and many more. Take care guys, and thank you for all you do to give us a great screen reader that people all over the world can use for free!


On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM Hope Williamson <webspinner@...> wrote:
I'm not sure how to answer this question. I've used NVDA full time since
2016, therefore it continues to benefit me daily.






Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

David Moore
 

Like hope says below, I use nvda every day! I have used it 80% of the time I am on the computer doing many tasks like browsing the internet for information, using the Microsoft news app in Windows 10, watching movies, listening to news, and on and on . Nvda is my full time screen reader now. For the first time in years, I did not renew my software maintenance agreement for Jaws. Nvda allows me to access the latest news easily on browsers like brave, Microsoft edge, chrome, water fox, and many more. Take care guys, and thank you for all you do to give us a great screen reader that people all over the world can use for free!


On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM Hope Williamson <webspinner@...> wrote:
I'm not sure how to answer this question. I've used NVDA full time since
2016, therefore it continues to benefit me daily.






Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, Amir wrote:

Sure, I did it a while ago, but compared with full-fledged RSS readers it suffered from so many shortcomings that I removed it after a short while.
It may or may not still, but I know that Noelia has recently made some major updates to it. You might try one of the dev versions and see if it has improved.

Luke


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Amir
 

Sure, I did it a while ago, but compared with full-fledged RSS readers it suffered from so many shortcomings that I removed it after a short while.
BTW in my previous message I forgot to add that I'd be happy to prepare a short guide for Fluent Reader if people are interested in that. For the time being, suffice it to say that your subscriptions appear at the bottom of the first page of the app. Once you press Enter on each subscription, the headings above it get populated with articles from that feed. And once you press on each heading, the text inside the only frame on the page gets populated with the text of your article. Of course, it's not the full page. Above that frame you can interact with a few buttons/links to display the full text, show the original article, mark it as read, etc.
The only nagging issue is that NVDA, and JAWS, detect our feeds as buttons and don't read their names automatically as we move to them via Up/Down arrows. Pressing Insert+Up or Insert+Tab, or oftentimes using B and SHIFT+B, helps, but IMHO this is something the developer can improve upon.

Best,
Amir


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Luke Davis
 

As an aside here, I assume you have looked into the Read Feeds NVDA add-on?


Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Amir
 

Folks, my quest to find an accessible windows RSS reader, something which supports both local refreshes and online RSS services, finally led to Fluent Reader. In short, this Electron-based app is a versatile, full-text RSS reader which is both more accessible than the online services we discussed here a while ago and is quite easy to master once we spend a few minutes with it. The app supports auto-refreshes at least on a 5-minute basis, and we can increase the value which is set to "Never" by default. It can be found at https://www.electronjs.org/apps/fluent-reader

Also its Github page is here: https://github.com/yang991178/fluent-reader

Of course, it has a couple of glitches and I have tried to summarize them via this issue: https://github.com/yang991178/fluent-reader/issues/103

I'd appreciate it if you could also contribute in order to help take care of them sooner.


Hope you find this of use.


Best,

Amir


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Leslie
 

Darn, I don’t know your name.  That sounds like a good idea.  Find my email link here and write me privately and we can talk more about Zoom.  Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Robinett
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

 

Hey Leslie,

We switched to Microsoft teams at work at the start of this year so, through a combination of memorizing hot keys and a whole lot of trial and error I have figured out how to be pretty productive in it. Let me know if you’d like to chat and exchange best practices sometime.



On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Leslie <soundsofmusic@...> wrote:

 

I’ve said before how NVDA. Is the best screen reader I know.  During this pandemic I can go to tech classes using it.  I’m learning how to use Zoom and Teams.  Sometimes I run into glitches, but I don’t think this is due to NVDA.  I’m trying to learn how to get around those glitches so I can use these programs more smoothly.  The 1 core voices are fantastic.  Some people perefer eloquence, but I get retired of its inflection.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Luke Robinett
 

Hi Jaffar,
Sounds like we share some common interests. I’m into coding and music production and use many of the same apps you mentioned, including reaper and VS code. Let me know if you want to collaborate sometime, be it musical or technical.

On Sep 21, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:



Hi Quentin.  The main factor which influences  me to choose  NVDA is that it doesn't take as much computer resources as Jaws does. This enables me to use NVDA more for intensive computer work like Music production and Games development with the Reaper DAW and IDES like Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code, and especially with Android Studio.  Thanks to the NVDA team for all your hard work and dedication in constantly improving NVDA, and all the benifit of the Blind community.  Cheers!

on 22/9/2020 6:53 am, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

 

I use NVDA for all my work. It is a great program and I prefer it to JAWS. I was with JAWS all the way sonce DOS days but NVDA seems so much lighter and adaptable.

 

Weel doen team!

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 4:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

 

Hi everyone,

 

As this turbulent year continues, we want to hear your good news.  Please reply (or email info@...), and tell us, how has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic?

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


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Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Luke Robinett
 

Hey Leslie,
We switched to Microsoft teams at work at the start of this year so, through a combination of memorizing hot keys and a whole lot of trial and error I have figured out how to be pretty productive in it. Let me know if you’d like to chat and exchange best practices sometime.

On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Leslie <soundsofmusic@...> wrote:



I’ve said before how NVDA. Is the best screen reader I know.  During this pandemic I can go to tech classes using it.  I’m learning how to use Zoom and Teams.  Sometimes I run into glitches, but I don’t think this is due to NVDA.  I’m trying to learn how to get around those glitches so I can use these programs more smoothly.  The 1 core voices are fantastic.  Some people perefer eloquence, but I get retired of its inflection.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

 

NVDA benefits me even when there is not a pandemic more than I know how to express in words. during the pandemic, however, it has worked well with Zoom since I have been attending many Zoom meetings. I do not know how to thank those who give many hours of their time to keep on working on NVDA to make it the best that it can be.

 

Thank you so very much.

 

On 9/20/2020 11:50 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

As this turbulent year continues, we want to hear your good news.  Please reply (or email info@...), and tell us, how has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic?

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876

 


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Luke Robinett
 

You know, I think Kelly Clarkson said it best in one of her hit songs: my life would suck without you :)

On Sep 20, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


Hi everyone,

As this turbulent year continues, we want to hear your good news.  Please reply (or email info@...), and tell us, how has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic?

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Luke Robinett
 

I know sometimes we users complain, whether here or on github, about bugs, unresolved issues and things that are just a part of any application, but this is a great opportunity to make sure the NVDA team understands just how much we appreciate the hard work they do. in October 2019 I began a six month intensive full stack web development Boot Camp through the University Of Oregon. Like many things I do, I was the first blind student to enroll in the program so there were lots of unknowns, but everybody was really supportive and excited to have me on board. Fast forward to March. With one month left in the class, the lock down orders happened and we were forced to finish the last month of class virtually. Thanks to NVDA, I was always able to keep up with the rest of the class using my laptop, whether we were in person together or learning remotely via zoom. Frankly I don’t know what I’d do without NVDA. I’ve tried JAWS and narrator and they all come up short when compared to what I considered the gold standard. I donate to the project on a recurring monthly basis and just want to say a huge thank you for enabling those of us who are blind to continue being successful professionally, academically and personally.


Re: call for topics letter.

 

Laura, et. al.,

          If you are sending something as an e-mail attachment, the NVDA group settings are to strip all attachments.  I have temporarily set this to moderate so that if you wish to resend with an attachment, I can allow it.

          After this is over, I will set the attachments setting to bounce (as in the message will be sent back to you) rather than strip, which allows the message part to come through but silently strips attachments.  Under virtually all normal circumstances attachments are not allowed for the group.  Ideally the files will be hosted somewhere else and links to those files supplied in the message body.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: call for topics letter.

lauracornwell
 

I am going to resend this again. Thanks for help in letting me know that it did not work the first time .
Please let me know if this works. to send this again. resend this again.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] call for topics letter.

Ok, my bad. I'm having an issue where nvda won't read the subject when I
hit nvda control left and right in tBird. Sorry about that. I heard
"call for pop up letters" not "topics." Please excuse the mistake.

On 9/22/2020 9:16 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
If you did attach the call for topics, it didn't come through.
Cheers,
Jsoeph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lauracornwell
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 7:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] call for topics letter.

We hope to hear from you soon.










Re: Intermittent Task Bar Problem

Sarah k Alawami
 

Be careful when doing that as if you have winwizard, it won't work as that is relegated  to the window behind the window you are focused on in an app. so I use windows t, then shift tab to the view  task list button.

On 9/22/2020 1:56 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
Also gary, you can press windows key + tab and get a running applications
list and a virtual desktop list. you can arrow through each and enter on
what you want.
******
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning
start?

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for
Family times
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent Task Bar Problem


I don't know how things are set up in Windows 10 or how they can be changed,
but maybe that behavior can be adjusted.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent Task Bar Problem

Hi Gene,

I mean the task bar, not the system tray. Yes, Alt+Tab works, but only
cycles between two windows.When I'm working, I have at least 8 programs I
switch between on the task bar.

Gary











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