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Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

molly the blind tech lover
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

on the back of this, I have used this screen reader since 2006 it was
a bit rough then but I stuck with it. I have used it for shopping zoom
and email at night I like the screen curtain feature and like the fact I use Rh voice on windows and android because of Scottish Alan anyway just thought I might chine in.

On 22/09/2020 23:00, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,


NVDA has been my full-time screen reader now since2011. Last year I
did have a 90-dollar subscription for the jaws home license but
decided not to renew it. I watch movies on youtube, listen to music,
shop for books online and email. I'd also like to thank the NV Access
team for all the fine work they do to make NVDA the great screen
reader that it is. It keeps getting better all the time.


Rosemarie



On 9/22/2020 2:54 PM, David Moore wrote:

Like hope says below, I use nvda every day! I have used it 80% of the
time I am on the computer doing many tasks like browsing the internet
for information, using the Microsoft news app in Windows 10, watching
movies, listening to news, and on and on . Nvda is my full time
screen reader now. For the first time in years, I did not renew my
software maintenance agreement for Jaws. Nvda allows me to access the
latest news easily on browsers like brave, Microsoft edge, chrome,
water fox, and many more. Take care guys, and thank you for all you
do to give us a great screen reader that people all over the world can use for free!


On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM Hope Williamson <webspinner@mail.com
<mailto:webspinner@mail.com>> wrote:

I'm not sure how to answer this question. I've used NVDA full time
since
2016, therefore it continues to benefit me daily.





Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

Daniel McGee
 

Bryan, sorry for the confusion. When I said that I edited the filter. I basically substituted the: to filled address of this list for  your suggestion: the subject line including the brackets. 

Also, I told the rule to: skip the inbox. Plus apply the conversation's check box and finally to go into my NVDA folder. 

The rule works with incoming messages going into my NVDA folder. However, they still are not skipping my inbox. Thus Having duplicated messages in two locations. 

I hope this makes my setup more clearer to understand.

 wondering, is this the way that gmail behaves now by default?   

On 23 Sep 2020, at 22:41, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

ÔĽŅDaniel,

           It appears there may be issues with Groups.io messages and Gmail filtering, as there are workarounds that have had to be done with Gmail.  I am having no issues with filtering messages from the [jawsscripts] messages from freelist.org, but the Groups.io NVDA messages are still having the Inbox label applied to them in addition to the label for NVDA Group Messages, even when I say to archive them.  I'm researching further for a possible workaround.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

And, now, it appears to be working as I'd expect based on what I offered earlier.  I don't know if a message had come in just before I finished the filter or what, but now the incoming messages (in this case, from me, when I'm posting via the web) are being correctly shuttled to the NVDA Group Messages folder and bypassing inbox.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Daniel,

           It appears there may be issues with Groups.io messages and Gmail filtering, as there are workarounds that have had to be done with Gmail.  I am having no issues with filtering messages from the [jawsscripts] messages from freelist.org, but the Groups.io NVDA messages are still having the Inbox label applied to them in addition to the label for NVDA Group Messages, even when I say to archive them.  I'm researching further for a possible workaround.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Daniel,

           I am confused by your statement "edited the label," as labels are created and assigned to using filters, which are what get edited.   I just created a label under Gmail named NVDA Group Messages.  I then created a filter on subject that has one thing in it:  [nvda].  (open square bracket, lower case nvda, close square bracket) coupled with Does not have: Private.  I do not want messages sent to me as private messages to be grouped in with NVDA group messages.

           The actions are Skip inbox (archive it) and Apply label NVDA Group Messages.   If you want it to apply to email messages you've already received, then you also need to check the checkbox for Also apply filter to matching conversations, otherwise it will be run only on new messages as they arrive.

            It works like a charm.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Amir
 

<LOL>! On the contrary, I think you are too modernistic to accept clients for RSS -- or perhaps email. But personally speaking, I find the web interface for access to RSS feeds quite time-consuming and rather disconcerting, and I can say the same thing about Gmail's web interface when it comes to email. Now as far as RSS is concerned, getting Miniflux, for instance, to display the full content of an article is more time-consuming than doing it in Fluent Reader or Raven-Reader -- another RSS client I'm testing. With that said, I do understand people have different tastes or needs.


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Kevin Cussick
 

on the back of this, I have used this screen reader since 2006 it was a bit rough then but I stuck with it. I have used it for shopping zoom and email at night I like the screen curtain feature and like the fact I use Rh voice on windows and android because of Scottish Alan anyway just thought I might chine in.

On 22/09/2020 23:00, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,
NVDA has been my full-time screen reader now since2011. Last year I did have a 90-dollar subscription for the jaws home license but decided not to renew it. I watch movies on youtube, listen to music, shop for books online and email. I'd also like to thank the NV Access team for all the fine work they do to make NVDA the great screen reader that it is. It keeps getting better all the time.
Rosemarie
On 9/22/2020 2:54 PM, David Moore wrote:

Like hope says below, I use nvda every day! I have used it 80% of the time I am on the computer doing many tasks like browsing the internet for information, using the Microsoft news app in Windows 10, watching movies, listening to news, and on and on . Nvda is my full time screen reader now. For the first time in years, I did not renew my software maintenance agreement for Jaws. Nvda allows me to access the latest news easily on browsers like brave, Microsoft edge, chrome, water fox, and many more. Take care guys, and thank you for all you do to give us a great screen reader that people all over the world can use for free!


On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM Hope Williamson <webspinner@mail.com <mailto:webspinner@mail.com>> wrote:

I'm not sure how to answer this question. I've used NVDA full time
since
2016, therefore it continues to benefit me daily.





Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Hope Williamson
 

It will probably take a century to get me to use a client-based RSS
reader. I definitely won't be around that long. It's one of the things
that a client really isn't necessary for. Then again I'm probably
old-fashioned, or maybe not.


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

Daniel McGee
 

Hi Bryan and Chris

Brian, thanks much for the tutorial. I edited the label with the subject line containing (nvda) also telling to skip the inbox. Alas though, the filter is still not performing the: skip inbox part. 

Am I still doing something wrong? 

On 23 Sep 2020, at 19:55, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

ÔĽŅChris,

          Yes, that is "what they are," and Gmail uses a very peculiar mechanism of their own design for this, but somewhere beneath he fact that a message can have multiple labels applied, and show up in multiple folders as a result, you are correct that there is only one copy.  

           I haven't played with creating a message with multiple labels and then deleting it under only one of them to see if it remains in the others, which would suggest that there are multiple folders, most of which use symbolic links to access the actual message wherever it is.

            I've never had any need to assign multiple labels to a given message, and find it annoying when I do assign a specific one that the "inbox" label is not removed by default.  You have to do that in the filter.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

 

Winamp is quite good.

However unless you have a place like winamp heritage or my winamp to get plugins or chipamp, then winamp aint much good.

Its nice for streamers and the like though to be honest chip files are what its geared towards now.

Some say xmplayer works though not tried it.

A lot of die hard chippers on a chips folder I am in swear by foobar which I have not bothered with.

Vlc is also another player that works.

Kmplayer works but I have never tried it extensively.

Windows media player can work, media player classic and new media player classic home cinimar do work but only doodled with basic classic player.

One thing to note, you may want something like codicguide.com's mega klite codec pack so you don't have issues with codecs and the like, vlc is all codecless as its internalised stuff.

On 23/09/2020 9:22 pm, Gene wrote:
I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible.  Other players are as well, but I'll let those who use them discuss them.  I usually use Winamp.  I'll tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list members may describe which players they like.

When using NVDA, you don't have the time marker feature JAWS incorporated for use with Winamp.  But there is a utility made by the late Carlos, who is much missed, that will allow you to set time markers with any screen-reader or even without one.  It is completely independent of and doesn't require a screen-reader be used.

Then, there is a plugin I use for slowing down or speeding up the speed of material.  It doesn't keep the pitch constant, it slows down and speeds up speed as though you were using a variable speed control on a tape recorder or record player.  That plugin is very useful to me.  I digitized a lot of tapes and my tape recorder was running a little fast.  I slow down the speed of the files when I play them in Winamp.  They must be certain formats or the plugin doesn't work properly.  I know MP3 will work,  There may be others but I don't know what works and what doesn't.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which media
player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros









ccleaner update

 

Hi.

Guys download and try the ccleaner update, avast actually got the accessibility fixes out.

So happy its out.

There are 3 issues of note maybe 4 that I have detected right away, and I have reported them to the right place.

http://ideas.ccleaner.com is where you place ideas and view a roadmap.

I was only talking to avast 2 days ago they said at the end of the month, I didn't think that it would be end of the week though.


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Chris,

          Yes, that is "what they are," and Gmail uses a very peculiar mechanism of their own design for this, but somewhere beneath he fact that a message can have multiple labels applied, and show up in multiple folders as a result, you are correct that there is only one copy.  

           I haven't played with creating a message with multiple labels and then deleting it under only one of them to see if it remains in the others, which would suggest that there are multiple folders, most of which use symbolic links to access the actual message wherever it is.

            I've never had any need to assign multiple labels to a given message, and find it annoying when I do assign a specific one that the "inbox" label is not removed by default.  You have to do that in the filter.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Daniel

They are called labels because that is what they are.  The Messages tagged with a particular label will be listed in a notional folder with that label name.  A message can be tagged with more than 1 label, for example, you could apply Phone an Utilities labels to a message containing  a phone bill and it would appear in both the Phone and Utilities notional folders but only one copy of the message actually exists.

 

Cheers

Chris


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Marco,


I'm using the windows media classic playuer and it's pretty good.


Rosemarie

On 9/23/2020 1:31 AM, Marco Oros wrote:
Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which media player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros





Re: NVDA 2020.3 beta2

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,


I just downloaded it and it's working great for me.


Rosemarie



On 9/22/2020 4:06 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.3 beta 2 is now available for testing. This is the second beta for the 2020.3 release.  If you are interested in testing out new features, please take some time to test the release and report any issues.

Highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3beta2

Kind regards

Quentin.
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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Daniel,

            Have a look at this tutorial: Creating IMAP Labels (Folders) and Filters for Gmail

            All you would need to do for the NVDA group is have a subject contains, using [nvda] as what it contains, and the actions being Skip Inbox and Apply Label where the label is your NVDA label (why Gmail calls these things labels I'll never quite know, but they're implemented as IMAP folders).
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


locked Re: nvda accessibility testing of one message checkout

 

Since a "call for testers" for accessibility of something with NVDA is a legitimate request, I've approved this message.  However, all subsequent communications with Mr. Cardenas must occur via the e-mail address he provided, support@...

This topic is now locked.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: List of NVDA Key Strokes

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Thomas,

 

Another great resource for NVDA help and tutorials is located at the following link.

http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials.html

 

Tony

 

 

 


locked nvda accessibility testing of one message checkout

fabio@...
 

Good morning.

We have an idea for a one message checkout and wanted to validate the concept with a few volunteers who are visually impaired.  Our tech allows users to complete an online purchase by sending us the url of the product with a sms or voice message.  If you're interested in volunteering for this tech testing, please send me an email:  support@...

thank you


Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

Daniel McGee
 

Hello everyone, using gmail as my email provider. I'm having a really hard time trying to create a message rule / filter that'll apply the rule to go into my NVDA folder / label with NVDA.

I'm fairly certain that I have it all setup correctly but my incoming messages are: still showing up in the inbox. Even though I have told the rule to: skip the inbox and just go into the NVDA folder.

If I have missed any Criteria in getting the rule to work, then please, do let me know. As I'm starting to feel like its gmail and not human error on my part. Thank you

Daniel

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