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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Chris,
In playing with the filtering stuff it appears that if Inbox is one of the labels on a given message, that is the "master copy," because if I delete it from the Inbox it is also removed from all other labels it's associated with at the same time. So if you have something that has the inbox label and other labels, and you want it to be retained elsewhere, do NOT delete it from inbox, just remove the inbox label. All of this presumes you're reading via Gmail webmail. Heaven only knows how an e-mail client interacting with Gmail would handle this, as I know you can remove the inbox label on the web interface and the message will disappear in your inbox under an e-mail client, but there is no way to selectively nuke "labels" in an e-mail client. It would be nice if the labels worked like symbolic links do, and that the message would not be deleted until or unless the last active label is has gets removed from the message or it's deleted from the folder associated with its last label. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Daniel,
You have to have an error somewhere. The initial criteria should be only Subject using [nvda] and Doesn't have Private. The two actions are skip the inbox (archive it) and Apply label with the appropriate label chosen. If that's not working I cannot explain it and would suggest having a look at these pages, and using your preferred method to contact Google's Disability folks: Google Accessibility Get In Touch Page Contact the Google Disability Support Team -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic
molly the blind tech lover
I love the screen curtain too 😀
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic on the back of this, I have used this screen reader since 2006 it was a bit rough then but I stuck with it. I have used it for shopping zoom and email at night I like the screen curtain feature and like the fact I use Rh voice on windows and android because of Scottish Alan anyway just thought I might chine in. On 22/09/2020 23:00, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: Hi, David,
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Daniel McGee
Bryan, sorry for the confusion. When I said that I edited the filter. I basically substituted the: to filled address of this list for your suggestion: the subject line including the brackets. Also, I told the rule to: skip the inbox. Plus apply the conversation's check box and finally to go into my NVDA folder. The rule works with incoming messages going into my NVDA folder. However, they still are not skipping my inbox. Thus Having duplicated messages in two locations. I hope this makes my setup more clearer to understand. wondering, is this the way that gmail behaves now by default?
On 23 Sep 2020, at 22:41, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
And, now, it appears to be working as I'd expect based on what I offered earlier. I don't know if a message had come in just before I finished the filter or what, but now the incoming messages (in this case, from me, when I'm posting via the web) are being correctly shuttled to the NVDA Group Messages folder and bypassing inbox.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Daniel,
It appears there may be issues with Groups.io messages and Gmail filtering, as there are workarounds that have had to be done with Gmail. I am having no issues with filtering messages from the [jawsscripts] messages from freelist.org, but the Groups.io NVDA messages are still having the Inbox label applied to them in addition to the label for NVDA Group Messages, even when I say to archive them. I'm researching further for a possible workaround. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Daniel,
I am confused by your statement "edited the label," as labels are created and assigned to using filters, which are what get edited. I just created a label under Gmail named NVDA Group Messages. I then created a filter on subject that has one thing in it: [nvda]. (open square bracket, lower case nvda, close square bracket) coupled with Does not have: Private. I do not want messages sent to me as private messages to be grouped in with NVDA group messages. The actions are Skip inbox (archive it) and Apply label NVDA Group Messages. If you want it to apply to email messages you've already received, then you also need to check the checkbox for Also apply filter to matching conversations, otherwise it will be run only on new messages as they arrive. It works like a charm. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader
Amir
<LOL>! On the contrary, I think you are too modernistic to accept clients for RSS -- or perhaps email. But personally speaking, I find the web interface for access to RSS feeds quite time-consuming and rather disconcerting, and I can say the same thing about Gmail's web interface when it comes to email. Now as far as RSS is concerned, getting Miniflux, for instance, to display the full content of an article is more time-consuming than doing it in Fluent Reader or Raven-Reader -- another RSS client I'm testing. With that said, I do understand people have different tastes or needs.
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Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic
Kevin Cussick
on the back of this, I have used this screen reader since 2006 it was a bit rough then but I stuck with it. I have used it for shopping zoom and email at night I like the screen curtain feature and like the fact I use Rh voice on windows and android because of Scottish Alan anyway just thought I might chine in.
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On 22/09/2020 23:00, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,
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Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader
Hope Williamson <webspinner@...>
It will probably take a century to get me to use a client-based RSS
reader. I definitely won't be around that long. It's one of the things that a client really isn't necessary for. Then again I'm probably old-fashioned, or maybe not.
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Daniel McGee
Hi Bryan and Chris Brian, thanks much for the tutorial. I edited the label with the subject line containing (nvda) also telling to skip the inbox. Alas though, the filter is still not performing the: skip inbox part. Am I still doing something wrong?
On 23 Sep 2020, at 19:55, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA
Winamp is quite good.
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However unless you have a place like winamp heritage or my winamp to get plugins or chipamp, then winamp aint much good. Its nice for streamers and the like though to be honest chip files are what its geared towards now. Some say xmplayer works though not tried it. A lot of die hard chippers on a chips folder I am in swear by foobar which I have not bothered with. Vlc is also another player that works. Kmplayer works but I have never tried it extensively. Windows media player can work, media player classic and new media player classic home cinimar do work but only doodled with basic classic player. One thing to note, you may want something like codicguide.com's mega klite codec pack so you don't have issues with codecs and the like, vlc is all codecless as its internalised stuff.
On 23/09/2020 9:22 pm, Gene wrote:
I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible. Other players are as well, but I'll let those who use them discuss them. I usually use Winamp. I'll tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list members may describe which players they like.
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ccleaner update
Hi.
Guys download and try the ccleaner update, avast actually got the accessibility fixes out. So happy its out. There are 3 issues of note maybe 4 that I have detected right away, and I have reported them to the right place. http://ideas.ccleaner.com is where you place ideas and view a roadmap. I was only talking to avast 2 days ago they said at the end of the month, I didn't think that it would be end of the week though.
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Chris,
Yes, that is "what they are," and Gmail uses a very peculiar mechanism of their own design for this, but somewhere beneath he fact that a message can have multiple labels applied, and show up in multiple folders as a result, you are correct that there is only one copy. I haven't played with creating a message with multiple labels and then deleting it under only one of them to see if it remains in the others, which would suggest that there are multiple folders, most of which use symbolic links to access the actual message wherever it is. I've never had any need to assign multiple labels to a given message, and find it annoying when I do assign a specific one that the "inbox" label is not removed by default. You have to do that in the filter. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Chris Mullins
Hi Daniel They are called labels because that is what they are. The Messages tagged with a particular label will be listed in a notional folder with that label name. A message can be tagged with more than 1 label, for example, you could apply Phone an Utilities labels to a message containing a phone bill and it would appear in both the Phone and Utilities notional folders but only one copy of the message actually exists.
Cheers Chris
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Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Marco,
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I'm using the windows media classic playuer and it's pretty good. Rosemarie
On 9/23/2020 1:31 AM, Marco Oros wrote:
Hello dear NVDA users.
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Re: NVDA 2020.3 beta2
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Quentin,
I just downloaded it and it's working great for me.
Rosemarie
On 9/22/2020 4:06 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages
Daniel,
Have a look at this tutorial: Creating IMAP Labels (Folders) and Filters for Gmail All you would need to do for the NVDA group is have a subject contains, using [nvda] as what it contains, and the actions being Skip Inbox and Apply Label where the label is your NVDA label (why Gmail calls these things labels I'll never quite know, but they're implemented as IMAP folders). -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: nvda accessibility testing of one message checkout
Since a "call for testers" for accessibility of something with NVDA is a legitimate request, I've approved this message. However, all subsequent communications with Mr. Cardenas must occur via the e-mail address he provided, support@...
This topic is now locked. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: List of NVDA Key Strokes
Tony Ballou
Hi Thomas,
Another great resource for NVDA help and tutorials is located at the following link. http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials.html
Tony
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