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Re: Spelling corrections not displayed when composing a message in Microsoft teams for windows

Luke Robinett
 

Anyone? Just curious if anyone is able to reproduce what I described in this email. Let me know if you need more info. Thanks.

On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Luke Robinett via groups.io <blindgroupsluke=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi folks,

When I am typing a message in Microsoft teams, NVDA announces misspelled words, as expected, but when I hit the right windows key to get the Context menu, I don’t get any spelling suggestions like I would in other Microsoft apps. I will say I attempted this same thing with narrator and encountered the same problem, so it might be an issue with Teams. Just thought I’d see if anyone else has experienced this and if there are any workarounds. Thanks.




Re: Slack for Windows Accessibility

Luke Robinett
 

I have to agree with the other person who replied. It’s absolutely doable but it’s a bit cumbersome at times. Once you get familiar with its quirks you do get used to it, and ultimately every area of the app is accessible.

On Sep 23, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Dzhovani <dzhovani.chemishanov@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Typo]

Hi,
The Slack Windows client is fairly usable with lots of hot keys for faster navigation. Those that I use the most are ctrl+k and ctrl+j. It is annoying at moments and never pleasant, but covers my needs and most likely yours.


In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Lots of little tidbits this week: NVDA 2020.3 Beta 2, the upcoming NVDACon, NV Access is hiring, we ask, "How has NVDA benefitted you?", we present the GSOC report and listen to NVDA in the charts!



Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

Gene
 

I checked. You have to stop play, unselect it, then close the program. Trying to resume play after unselecting it makes the program crash as well as does trying to play a new file. Its an inconvenience but I don't use it much and it’s a minor one for me.

The plugin used to work properly in XP, but not in Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

It should be noted that the accessible version of the plugin, the older one,
causes NVDA to crash unless you unselect it before closing the program. I
believe that you have to set it every time you use it, which is an
inconvenience but not a major one.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I will often praise foobar for audio playback, but, old habits die hard, and
I also use winamp for most audio needs to this day.
That does sound like a good plugin, the variable pitch one...
I don't think it's enough to make anyone switch but it's worth noting that
VlC can do this natively/without plugins. Not sure if there is a hotkey
pre-set for it though like there is for the compression feature (iE,
decreasing speed without changing pitch etc).

I use VLC for video playback, and for some audio formats that Winamp doesn't
handle very well (some audio and video formats, Winamp cannot index
properly, which means you can't really fast forward or rewind through a
track)


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 23, 2020 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible. Other players are as well,
but I'll let those who use them discuss them. I usually use Winamp. I'll
tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list members may describe
which players they like.

When using NVDA, you don't have the time marker feature JAWS incorporated
for use with Winamp. But there is a utility made by the late Carlos, who is
much missed, that will allow you to set time markers with any screen-reader
or even without one. It is completely independent of and doesn't require a
screen-reader be used.

Then, there is a plugin I use for slowing down or speeding up the speed of
material. It doesn't keep the pitch constant, it slows down and speeds up
speed as though you were using a variable speed control on a tape recorder
or record player. That plugin is very useful to me. I digitized a lot of
tapes and my tape recorder was running a little fast. I slow down the speed
of the files when I play them in Winamp. They must be certain formats or
the plugin doesn't work properly. I know MP3 will work, There may be
others but I don't know what works and what doesn't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which media
player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

Gene
 

It should be noted that the accessible version of the plugin, the older one, causes NVDA to crash unless you unselect it before closing the program. I believe that you have to set it every time you use it, which is an inconvenience but not a major one.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I will often praise foobar for audio playback, but, old habits die hard, and I also use winamp for most audio needs to this day.
That does sound like a good plugin, the variable pitch one...
I don't think it's enough to make anyone switch but it's worth noting that VlC can do this natively/without plugins. Not sure if there is a hotkey pre-set for it though like there is for the compression feature (iE, decreasing speed without changing pitch etc).

I use VLC for video playback, and for some audio formats that Winamp doesn't handle very well (some audio and video formats, Winamp cannot index properly, which means you can't really fast forward or rewind through a track)


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 23, 2020 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible. Other players are as well, but I'll let those who use them discuss them. I usually use Winamp. I'll tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list members may describe which players they like.

When using NVDA, you don't have the time marker feature JAWS incorporated for use with Winamp. But there is a utility made by the late Carlos, who is much missed, that will allow you to set time markers with any screen-reader or even without one. It is completely independent of and doesn't require a screen-reader be used.

Then, there is a plugin I use for slowing down or speeding up the speed of material. It doesn't keep the pitch constant, it slows down and speeds up speed as though you were using a variable speed control on a tape recorder or record player. That plugin is very useful to me. I digitized a lot of tapes and my tape recorder was running a little fast. I slow down the speed of the files when I play them in Winamp. They must be certain formats or the plugin doesn't work properly. I know MP3 will work, There may be others but I don't know what works and what doesn't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which media player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

JM Casey
 

I will often praise foobar for audio playback, but, old habits die hard, and I also use winamp for most audio needs to this day.
That does sound like a good plugin, the variable pitch one...
I don't think it's enough to make anyone switch but it's worth noting that VlC can do this natively/without plugins. Not sure if there is a hotkey pre-set for it though like there is for the compression feature (iE, decreasing speed without changing pitch etc).

I use VLC for video playback, and for some audio formats that Winamp doesn't handle very well (some audio and video formats, Winamp cannot index properly, which means you can't really fast forward or rewind through a track)

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 23, 2020 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible. Other players are as well, but I'll let those who use them discuss them. I usually use Winamp. I'll tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list members may describe which players they like.

When using NVDA, you don't have the time marker feature JAWS incorporated for use with Winamp. But there is a utility made by the late Carlos, who is much missed, that will allow you to set time markers with any screen-reader or even without one. It is completely independent of and doesn't require a screen-reader be used.

Then, there is a plugin I use for slowing down or speeding up the speed of material. It doesn't keep the pitch constant, it slows down and speeds up speed as though you were using a variable speed control on a tape recorder or record player. That plugin is very useful to me. I digitized a lot of tapes and my tape recorder was running a little fast. I slow down the speed of the files when I play them in Winamp. They must be certain formats or the plugin doesn't work properly. I know MP3 will work, There may be others but I don't know what works and what doesn't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which media player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

JM Casey
 

More programmes should have foibles like this one

It does seem to present a challenge for some though, or maybe just ore time than some are willing to put into setup

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amir
Sent: September 23, 2020 5:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

 

Greetings. For me -- and many others, it is Foobar2000 all the way. I switched from Winamp which is no longer being developed other than the leaked releases which circulate around to Foobar2000 which is equally low-resource and quite well-maintained. Everything is customizable in Foobar2000 and that might also be its foible as you need to define your hot keys first. But once you do it, you can't be happier. Foobar2000 support is also mentioned in NVDA's manual.

Best,
Amir


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

JM Casey
 

I know it's not strictly speaking necessary to use an add-on for VLC to do what I want (except for some of the dialogue boxes), but isn't this addon incompatible with the latest nVDA? Or has it been updated...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: September 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

VLC, and with the VLC Accessibility Enhancement Addon, it's a joy to use!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 23 sep 2020, a la(s) 3:32 a.m., Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> escribió:

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which media player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros






Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Chris,

           In playing with the filtering stuff it appears that if Inbox is one of the labels on a given message, that is the "master copy," because if I delete it from the Inbox it is also removed from all other labels it's associated with at the same time.  So if you have something that has the inbox label and other labels, and you want it to be retained elsewhere, do NOT delete it from inbox, just remove the inbox label.

           All of this presumes you're reading via Gmail webmail.  Heaven only knows how an e-mail client interacting with Gmail would handle this, as I know you can remove the inbox label on the web interface and the message will disappear in your inbox under an e-mail client, but there is no way to selectively nuke "labels" in an e-mail client.

           It would be nice if the labels worked like symbolic links do, and that the message would not be deleted until or unless the last active label is has gets removed from the message or it's deleted from the folder associated with its last label.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Daniel,

           You have to have an error somewhere.  The initial criteria should be only Subject using [nvda] and Doesn't have Private.  The two actions are skip the inbox (archive it) and Apply label with the appropriate label chosen.  If that's not working I cannot explain it and would suggest having a look at these pages, and using your preferred method to contact Google's Disability folks:

Google Accessibility Get In Touch Page

 

Contact the Google Disability Support Team
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

molly the blind tech lover
 

I love the screen curtain too 😀

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

on the back of this, I have used this screen reader since 2006 it was
a bit rough then but I stuck with it. I have used it for shopping zoom
and email at night I like the screen curtain feature and like the fact I use Rh voice on windows and android because of Scottish Alan anyway just thought I might chine in.

On 22/09/2020 23:00, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,


NVDA has been my full-time screen reader now since2011. Last year I
did have a 90-dollar subscription for the jaws home license but
decided not to renew it. I watch movies on youtube, listen to music,
shop for books online and email. I'd also like to thank the NV Access
team for all the fine work they do to make NVDA the great screen
reader that it is. It keeps getting better all the time.


Rosemarie



On 9/22/2020 2:54 PM, David Moore wrote:

Like hope says below, I use nvda every day! I have used it 80% of the
time I am on the computer doing many tasks like browsing the internet
for information, using the Microsoft news app in Windows 10, watching
movies, listening to news, and on and on . Nvda is my full time
screen reader now. For the first time in years, I did not renew my
software maintenance agreement for Jaws. Nvda allows me to access the
latest news easily on browsers like brave, Microsoft edge, chrome,
water fox, and many more. Take care guys, and thank you for all you
do to give us a great screen reader that people all over the world can use for free!


On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM Hope Williamson <webspinner@mail.com
<mailto:webspinner@mail.com>> wrote:

I'm not sure how to answer this question. I've used NVDA full time
since
2016, therefore it continues to benefit me daily.





Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

Daniel McGee
 

Bryan, sorry for the confusion. When I said that I edited the filter. I basically substituted the: to filled address of this list for  your suggestion: the subject line including the brackets. 

Also, I told the rule to: skip the inbox. Plus apply the conversation's check box and finally to go into my NVDA folder. 

The rule works with incoming messages going into my NVDA folder. However, they still are not skipping my inbox. Thus Having duplicated messages in two locations. 

I hope this makes my setup more clearer to understand.

 wondering, is this the way that gmail behaves now by default?   

On 23 Sep 2020, at 22:41, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Daniel,

           It appears there may be issues with Groups.io messages and Gmail filtering, as there are workarounds that have had to be done with Gmail.  I am having no issues with filtering messages from the [jawsscripts] messages from freelist.org, but the Groups.io NVDA messages are still having the Inbox label applied to them in addition to the label for NVDA Group Messages, even when I say to archive them.  I'm researching further for a possible workaround.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

And, now, it appears to be working as I'd expect based on what I offered earlier.  I don't know if a message had come in just before I finished the filter or what, but now the incoming messages (in this case, from me, when I'm posting via the web) are being correctly shuttled to the NVDA Group Messages folder and bypassing inbox.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Daniel,

           It appears there may be issues with Groups.io messages and Gmail filtering, as there are workarounds that have had to be done with Gmail.  I am having no issues with filtering messages from the [jawsscripts] messages from freelist.org, but the Groups.io NVDA messages are still having the Inbox label applied to them in addition to the label for NVDA Group Messages, even when I say to archive them.  I'm researching further for a possible workaround.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

 

Daniel,

           I am confused by your statement "edited the label," as labels are created and assigned to using filters, which are what get edited.   I just created a label under Gmail named NVDA Group Messages.  I then created a filter on subject that has one thing in it:  [nvda].  (open square bracket, lower case nvda, close square bracket) coupled with Does not have: Private.  I do not want messages sent to me as private messages to be grouped in with NVDA group messages.

           The actions are Skip inbox (archive it) and Apply label NVDA Group Messages.   If you want it to apply to email messages you've already received, then you also need to check the checkbox for Also apply filter to matching conversations, otherwise it will be run only on new messages as they arrive.

            It works like a charm.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Amir
 

<LOL>! On the contrary, I think you are too modernistic to accept clients for RSS -- or perhaps email. But personally speaking, I find the web interface for access to RSS feeds quite time-consuming and rather disconcerting, and I can say the same thing about Gmail's web interface when it comes to email. Now as far as RSS is concerned, getting Miniflux, for instance, to display the full content of an article is more time-consuming than doing it in Fluent Reader or Raven-Reader -- another RSS client I'm testing. With that said, I do understand people have different tastes or needs.


Re: How has NVDA benefitted you during the pandemic

Kevin Cussick
 

on the back of this, I have used this screen reader since 2006 it was a bit rough then but I stuck with it. I have used it for shopping zoom and email at night I like the screen curtain feature and like the fact I use Rh voice on windows and android because of Scottish Alan anyway just thought I might chine in.

On 22/09/2020 23:00, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,
NVDA has been my full-time screen reader now since2011. Last year I did have a 90-dollar subscription for the jaws home license but decided not to renew it. I watch movies on youtube, listen to music, shop for books online and email. I'd also like to thank the NV Access team for all the fine work they do to make NVDA the great screen reader that it is. It keeps getting better all the time.
Rosemarie
On 9/22/2020 2:54 PM, David Moore wrote:

Like hope says below, I use nvda every day! I have used it 80% of the time I am on the computer doing many tasks like browsing the internet for information, using the Microsoft news app in Windows 10, watching movies, listening to news, and on and on . Nvda is my full time screen reader now. For the first time in years, I did not renew my software maintenance agreement for Jaws. Nvda allows me to access the latest news easily on browsers like brave, Microsoft edge, chrome, water fox, and many more. Take care guys, and thank you for all you do to give us a great screen reader that people all over the world can use for free!


On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM Hope Williamson <webspinner@mail.com <mailto:webspinner@mail.com>> wrote:

I'm not sure how to answer this question. I've used NVDA full time
since
2016, therefore it continues to benefit me daily.





Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Hope Williamson
 

It will probably take a century to get me to use a client-based RSS
reader. I definitely won't be around that long. It's one of the things
that a client really isn't necessary for. Then again I'm probably
old-fashioned, or maybe not.


Re: Gmail Filter Setup - Specifically, for the NVDA Group Messages

Daniel McGee
 

Hi Bryan and Chris

Brian, thanks much for the tutorial. I edited the label with the subject line containing (nvda) also telling to skip the inbox. Alas though, the filter is still not performing the: skip inbox part. 

Am I still doing something wrong? 

On 23 Sep 2020, at 19:55, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Chris,

          Yes, that is "what they are," and Gmail uses a very peculiar mechanism of their own design for this, but somewhere beneath he fact that a message can have multiple labels applied, and show up in multiple folders as a result, you are correct that there is only one copy.  

           I haven't played with creating a message with multiple labels and then deleting it under only one of them to see if it remains in the others, which would suggest that there are multiple folders, most of which use symbolic links to access the actual message wherever it is.

            I've never had any need to assign multiple labels to a given message, and find it annoying when I do assign a specific one that the "inbox" label is not removed by default.  You have to do that in the filter.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

 

Winamp is quite good.

However unless you have a place like winamp heritage or my winamp to get plugins or chipamp, then winamp aint much good.

Its nice for streamers and the like though to be honest chip files are what its geared towards now.

Some say xmplayer works though not tried it.

A lot of die hard chippers on a chips folder I am in swear by foobar which I have not bothered with.

Vlc is also another player that works.

Kmplayer works but I have never tried it extensively.

Windows media player can work, media player classic and new media player classic home cinimar do work but only doodled with basic classic player.

One thing to note, you may want something like codicguide.com's mega klite codec pack so you don't have issues with codecs and the like, vlc is all codecless as its internalised stuff.

On 23/09/2020 9:22 pm, Gene wrote:
I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible.  Other players are as well, but I'll let those who use them discuss them.  I usually use Winamp.  I'll tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list members may describe which players they like.

When using NVDA, you don't have the time marker feature JAWS incorporated for use with Winamp.  But there is a utility made by the late Carlos, who is much missed, that will allow you to set time markers with any screen-reader or even without one.  It is completely independent of and doesn't require a screen-reader be used.

Then, there is a plugin I use for slowing down or speeding up the speed of material.  It doesn't keep the pitch constant, it slows down and speeds up speed as though you were using a variable speed control on a tape recorder or record player.  That plugin is very useful to me.  I digitized a lot of tapes and my tape recorder was running a little fast.  I slow down the speed of the files when I play them in Winamp.  They must be certain formats or the plugin doesn't work properly.  I know MP3 will work,  There may be others but I don't know what works and what doesn't.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which media
player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros








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