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When auto-language switching fails

Deborah Armstrong <debee@...>
 

I have a question for all you bilingual folks. I'm learning Spanish and entering now my fourth quarter and have moved from beginner to intermediate.
If I use JAWS and when a website, assignment or test doesn't have the correct markup for automatic language switching, I can issue the keystroke Control-Windows-L to have JAWS change the synthesizer language. 
 
But I am not finding any feature in NVDA that does the same thing. I can certainly go to preferences and Speech and make changes there, but I'm often reading things in Spanish with instructions or explanations in English. And I prefer the Braille support NVDA gives me with Spanish. Is there an easier way to switch synthesizer languages on the fly?

I previously used the switch synth add-on before NVDA moved to Python 3. But I removed all my add-ons to make the upgrade easier, and then just installed Braille extender.  Is that switch Synth add-on still the easiest or the only way to do this?
And are my only choices for free Spanish voices the Microsoft and the Espeak Spanish voices?
 
Thanks for the help.
 


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

JM Casey
 

Yeah, but..it's a media player; do they really have to "go anywhere"? lol
Not that many new non-streaming media formats under the sun, for audio at least. Winamp as a video player isn't very robust.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson
Sent: September 24, 2020 11:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I use Foobar myself. I used Winamp for a while but it didn't seem like it was going anywhere.

On 9/23/2020 8:53 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I use winamp for a lot of things but my chip formats have not changed
in ages and ages.

There are a few things that winamp can't play but to be honest most
chip stuff I get are remakes and mashups usually in mp3 as well as
cross over chips.

I like the interface of the winamp program to.

Winamp is still aparently being developed but with its parent company
becoming shoutcast, who knows.

Its not been updated but winamp is on shoutcast's main page as a link,
so its probably a given they havn't given up on it.

However, winamp at least the version going on is wacup, or winamp
community project, which is 5.666 with extras.

To be honest though unless someone can revive, and update and add new
things to a plugins database winamp is pritty much useless.

The only reason I continue to use winamp is that I have ahd it since
2000 and have built up a stash of plugins and configurations I wanted
to use.



On 24/09/2020 11:43 am, JM Casey wrote:
I will often praise foobar for audio playback, but, old habits die
hard, and I also use winamp for most audio needs to this day.
That does sound like a good plugin, the variable pitch one...
I don't think it's enough to make anyone switch but it's worth noting
that VlC can do this natively/without plugins. Not sure if there is a
hotkey pre-set for it though like there is for the compression
feature (iE, decreasing speed without changing pitch etc).

I use VLC for video playback, and for some audio formats that Winamp
doesn't handle very well (some audio and video formats, Winamp cannot
index properly, which means you can't really fast forward or rewind
through a track)


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 23, 2020 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible. Other players are as
well, but I'll let those who use them discuss them. I usually use
Winamp. I'll tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list
members may describe which players they like.

When using NVDA, you don't have the time marker feature JAWS
incorporated for use with Winamp. But there is a utility made by the
late Carlos, who is much missed, that will allow you to set time
markers with any screen-reader or even without one. It is completely
independent of and doesn't require a screen-reader be used.

Then, there is a plugin I use for slowing down or speeding up the
speed of material. It doesn't keep the pitch constant, it slows down
and speeds up speed as though you were using a variable speed control
on a tape recorder or record player. That plugin is very useful to
me. I digitized a lot of tapes and my tape recorder was running a
little fast. I slow down the speed of the files when I play them in
Winamp. They must be certain formats or the plugin doesn't work
properly. I know MP3 will work, There may be others but I don't
know what works and what doesn't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which
media player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros


















latest driver updates

 

Hi all, just to notify you that today I recieved driver update from hp for my firmware.

Before that windows 2004 seemed to be causing my cpu to spike, waterfox and some programs crashed a lot, etc.

After I got the update, windows would boot twice though still boot.

To fix it on your hp do the following.

1.  power off and unplug all cords from ports including the power.

push and hold the power button for at least 15-20 seconds.

release.

power back on.

after the system starts plug in power, plug in everything else.

Its not been restarting twice and things are not being stupid anymore.


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Amir
 

Greetings. Like Fluent Reader, Raven Reader is an Electron app. As such, it's also quite accessible -- even a bit more than Fluent Reader I'd say. It's also a good podcast player and can play podcast-oriented items as we open them. Its website is https://ravenreader.app
I've also opened a few issues for Raven Reader on its Github page -- please take a look: https://github.com/hello-efficiency-inc/raven-reader

Best,
Amir


Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

Betsy Grenevitch
 

have seen that too but thought it was just because my laptop is older. I am using Windows 10 and the version of NVDA right before the beta as far as I know. It does not always happen but happens frequently.

On 9/24/2020 8:00 AM, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
Hello list,
I have some weird issue with NVDA.
When I do not use my laptop for a longer period of time (half an hour and longer), but the laptop is stil on, and when I want to use it again, I pres any key, NVdA takes quite a long time to start speaking.
I have Lenovo, Windows 10, latest NVDA version and I have screensavers, and standby mode disabled.
Please, if anyone knows any workaround, let me know.
Thank you very much for your help.
Maria



--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Navigating Microsoft Edge Favourites

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I can navigate to the Microsoft Edge favourites treeview with NVDA, but not within it using the ARROW keys.  I activated focus mode by pressing ENTER on the treeview, which is described as clickable, but nothing happened.  I was able to navigate within the treeview using JAWS 16, and forms mode was autoactivated when I navigated to the treeview.  I can't navigate within the listbiew that opens up when you activate a treeview choice with JAWS, but I can with NVDA.  I'm running the latest versions of Microsoft Edge and Windows 10.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

 

Well, there are standard things that can be done, and I do 'em in this order, stopping if/when the issue subsides:

1.  Uninstall NVDA and then reinstall from a freshly downloaded copy of the installer.

2.  Run the COM registration fixing tool.

3.  Restart NVDA with add-ons disabled.

4. If number three works, disabling all add-ons, then reenabling one by one until the issue recurs to determine which is the problem.  Some people do literally one at a time, disabling all others, while others start with one and, if there's no problem, enabling the next.

There is also what Joseph mentioned as far as power saving, but that does make no sense if the machine is playing music continuously and NVDA isn't just there when called upon.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

 

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't see how. If he is playing music and the music is up and still playing but nvda takes a few seconds or minutes more to speak, somethingn else is up.

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On 24 Sep 2020, at 9:15, Brian Vogel wrote:

Has the computer gone to sleep?  You make no mention of that, but if it has been put into sleep mode due to inactivity it does take a few moments for everything to "come back to life" again.  Some things will come back to life before others do.
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

 

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

 

Hi,
Don't tell me this is the sound card hardware/driver combo working to put the sound card itself to sleep... Does this happen if you use a different speaker or a headset hardware other than the one that comes with your computer?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

No, the computer has never been put into sleep mode, I have all these functions and screensaver disabled.
Maria

On 24. 9. 2020 18:15, Brian Vogel wrote:
Has the computer gone to sleep? You make no mention of that, but if
it has been put into sleep mode due to inactivity it does take a few
moments for everything to "come back to life" again. Some things will
come back to life before others do.
--

Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

/It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white./

~ Kelley Boorn


Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

Mária Orovčíková
 

No, the computer has never been put into sleep mode, I have all these functions and screensaver disabled.
Maria

On 24. 9. 2020 18:15, Brian Vogel wrote:
Has the computer gone to sleep?  You make no mention of that, but if it has been put into sleep mode due to inactivity it does take a few moments for everything to "come back to life" again.  Some things will come back to life before others do.
--

Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

/It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white./

~ Kelley Boorn


Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

 

Has the computer gone to sleep?  You make no mention of that, but if it has been put into sleep mode due to inactivity it does take a few moments for everything to "come back to life" again.  Some things will come back to life before others do.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

 

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Akash Kakkar
 

Raven-Reader?

How's the accessibility status?

On 9/24/2020 2:18 AM, Amir wrote:
<LOL>! On the contrary, I think you are too modernistic to accept clients for RSS -- or perhaps email. But personally speaking, I find the web interface for access to RSS feeds quite time-consuming and rather disconcerting, and I can say the same thing about Gmail's web interface when it comes to email. Now as far as RSS is concerned, getting Miniflux, for instance, to display the full content of an article is more time-consuming than doing it in Fluent Reader or Raven-Reader -- another RSS client I'm testing. With that said, I do understand people have different tastes or needs.


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Akash Kakkar
 

Ya, Thunderbird's RSS feature is quite lame.

I've used it in the past but didn't like it at all. quite buggy and feature less.

On 9/23/2020 6:13 PM, rowen brian wrote:
Hi, Akash, 
In fact, Thunderbird also has rss subscription function.


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hi all.

I use VLC Media Player, work Good with NVDA.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios ciegos y con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and help to the blind people, with use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

 

NVDA certified expert certificate

 


Re: Fluent Reader: a feature-rich and accessible Windows RSS reader

Hope Williamson
 

Oh, I just open 5000 windows every time. Lol it's really not that many,
it's probably only around 30. Therefore I really don't need it to give
me the full article, because I'd be opening the window. I do this
regardless of what reader I'm using.


Re: Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hope Williamson
 

I use Foobar myself. I used Winamp for a while but it didn't seem like
it was going anywhere.

On 9/23/2020 8:53 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I use winamp for a lot of things but my chip formats have not changed
in ages and ages.

There are a few things that winamp can't play but to be honest most
chip stuff I get are remakes and mashups usually in mp3 as well as
cross over chips.

I like the interface of the winamp program to.

Winamp is still aparently being developed but with its parent company
becoming shoutcast, who knows.

Its not been updated but winamp is on shoutcast's main page as a link,
so its  probably a given they havn't given up on it.

However, winamp at least the version going on is wacup, or winamp
community project, which is 5.666 with extras.

To be honest though unless someone can revive, and update and add new
things to a plugins database winamp is pritty much useless.

The only reason I continue to use winamp is that I have ahd it since
2000 and have built up a stash of plugins and configurations I wanted
to use.



On 24/09/2020 11:43 am, JM Casey wrote:
I will often praise foobar for audio playback, but, old habits die
hard, and I also use winamp for most audio needs to this day.
That does sound like a good plugin, the variable pitch one...
I don't think it's enough to make anyone switch but it's worth noting
that VlC can do this natively/without plugins. Not sure if there is a
hotkey pre-set for it though like there is for the compression
feature (iE, decreasing speed without changing pitch etc).

I use VLC for video playback, and for some audio formats that Winamp
doesn't handle very well (some audio and video formats, Winamp cannot
index properly, which means you can't really fast forward or rewind
through a track)


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 23, 2020 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

I know Winamp is widely used and is accessible.  Other players are as
well, but I'll let those who use them discuss them.  I usually use
Winamp.  I'll tell you why I use Winamp in general and other list
members may describe which players they like.

When using NVDA, you don't have the time marker feature JAWS
incorporated for use with Winamp.  But there is a utility made by the
late Carlos, who is much missed, that will allow you to set time
markers with any screen-reader or even without one.  It is completely
independent of and doesn't require a screen-reader be used.

Then, there is a plugin I use for slowing down or speeding up the
speed of material.  It doesn't keep the pitch constant, it slows down
and speeds up speed as though you were using a variable speed control
on a tape recorder or record player. That plugin is very useful to
me.  I digitized a lot of tapes and my tape recorder was running a
little fast.  I slow down the speed of the files when I play them in
Winamp.  They must be certain formats or the plugin doesn't work
properly.  I know MP3 will work,  There may be others but I don't
know what works and what doesn't.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Oros
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mostly used media player with NVDA

Hello dear NVDA users.

I have a question. Which mediaplayer are You use with NVDA? Which
media player is mostly accessible for users of NVDA?

Thank You.

Marco Oros

















Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

Gene
 

I don't know why that is. that appears to indicate a different problem than the one I pointed to.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA does not work properly

Hello again,
the thing is that it also happens when a sound is playing (for example
video or audio), it takes some time til NVDA starts working again after
not being active.
Maria

On 24. 9. 2020 14:28, Gene wrote:
If a computer has this problem, while this is unusual, in generel the problem occurs when the computer isn't used for a much shorter time, this page mauy have the solution.
https://mosen.org/soundsfrustrating/

You may want to read the article or skip to the part that discusses the specific solution I have in mind. To find the beginning of that specific section, search for
Thanks so much to

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not work properly

Hello list,
I have some weird issue with NVDA.
When I do not use my laptop for a longer period of time (half an hour
and longer), but the laptop is stil on, and when I want to use it again,
I pres any key, NVdA takes quite a long time to start speaking.
I have Lenovo, Windows 10, latest NVDA version and I have screensavers,
and standby mode disabled.
Please, if anyone knows any workaround, let me know.
Thank you very much for your help.
Maria









Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

Mária Orovčíková
 

Hello again,
the thing is that it also happens when a sound is playing (for example video or audio), it takes some time til NVDA starts working again after not being active.
Maria

On 24. 9. 2020 14:28, Gene wrote:
If a computer has this problem, while this is unusual, in generel the problem occurs when the computer isn't used for a much shorter time, this page mauy have the solution.
https://mosen.org/soundsfrustrating/

You may want to read the article or skip to the part that discusses the specific solution I have in mind.  To find the beginning of that specific section, search for
Thanks so much to

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not work properly

Hello list,
I have some weird issue with NVDA.
When I do not use my laptop for a longer period of time (half an hour
and longer), but the laptop is stil on, and when I want to use it again,
I pres any key, NVdA takes quite a long time to start speaking.
I have Lenovo, Windows 10, latest NVDA version and I have screensavers,
and standby mode disabled.
Please, if anyone knows any workaround, let me know.
Thank you very much for your help.
Maria








Re: NVDA Speech delay after Computer is Idle

Gene
 

If a computer has this problem, while this is unusual, in generel the problem occurs when the computer isn't used for a much shorter time, this page mauy have the solution.
https://mosen.org/soundsfrustrating/

You may want to read the article or skip to the part that discusses the specific solution I have in mind. To find the beginning of that specific section, search for
Thanks so much to

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not work properly

Hello list,
I have some weird issue with NVDA.
When I do not use my laptop for a longer period of time (half an hour
and longer), but the laptop is stil on, and when I want to use it again,
I pres any key, NVdA takes quite a long time to start speaking.
I have Lenovo, Windows 10, latest NVDA version and I have screensavers,
and standby mode disabled.
Please, if anyone knows any workaround, let me know.
Thank you very much for your help.
Maria


Re: Slack for Windows Accessibility

AKH AKH
 

Hi Sylvie


Great link for screen-reader tips, thanks.


Andrew


On 24/09/2020 13:04, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello,

I use the windows Slack app every day at work and it works rather fine.

You can use f6 and shift+F6 to switch from the messages list, to the channels list or the message edit field. NVDA switches automatically in forms mode so that you can type your message, and it switches back to browse mode in other situations.

With the automatic forms mode switching you can navigate through the messages with up and down arrow keys.

Sometimes NVDA gets stuck because it cannot decide if enabling forms or browse mode, but in most situations, it works rather good.

There is a useful help for you to learn how to use Slack with a screen reader :

Use a screen reader on Slack on desktop, that provides helpful information.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Luke Robinett via groups.io
Envoyé : jeudi 24 septembre 2020 04:12
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Slack for Windows Accessibility

 

I have to agree with the other person who replied. It’s absolutely doable but it’s a bit cumbersome at times. Once you get familiar with its quirks you do get used to it, and ultimately every area of the app is accessible.



On Sep 23, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Dzhovani <dzhovani.chemishanov@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Typo]

Hi,
The Slack Windows client is fairly usable with lots of hot keys for faster navigation. Those that I use the most are ctrl+k and ctrl+j. It is annoying at moments and never pleasant, but covers my needs and most likely yours.

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